No idea if what hymn says is true or not but even if it is his comment about BYU
bringing in "ringers" to beat utah is ridiculous. If BYU is able to
provide their rugby players with some level of subsidy then good for them. That
is what happens when your athletic department runs in the black and brings in
almost 50% more revenue.My uncle played rugby at BYU back in the
70's. I was a kid growing up in San Jose and my Dad and I went up to watch them
play Cal in Berkley. Even then both of those programs were top programs so it's
no wonder they are both still good.
Great time to be a cougar fan!
Rugby is governed by USA Rugby, but academic standards from the NCAA apply. Some
schools give scholarships specifically for rugby if they have enough of an
endowment, some teams are varsity sports, some are not. Utah is one of the few
remaining that is not, but they are working on getting the status. Varsity
status basically gives you better access to fields and equipment. BYU has their
own facilities because they are Varsity status. Utah shares their field with the
frisbeee club because they are not. Utah players pay their way, Cal players pay
little to nothing, BYU is in the middle. BYU finds scholarships (private school
status lets them define financial need a little broader) although they're
scholarships are specifically rugby, they do find tuition money for players they
want (not a rumor or bitter, ask some of the islanders and the kids from South
Africa) The good thing about being non-varsity status is that a club has more
control over the money they raise and can offer more scholarships since a
percentage doesn't go to the University. Love a healthy donation for
scholarships to the Utes...Mr. Weddle, Mr. Weddle...
Thank goodness the NCAA has nothing to do with Rugby. They would ruin it.It is a Club sport governed by USA Rugby. Any Club can recruit unfortunately
there are no Scholarships and the players have to qualify with the Schools just
like every other student, no preferences. There are some schools that have large
Endowments like Cal's and the Ivy league schools that help support the players.
It would be nice to have that at BYU and Utah. Maybe when I win the Lottery...:)
Will the beating ever stop? All I ever read is BYU beats utah, again and again
Great win by BYU. They are definitively in a position to challenge Cal for the
national championship this year. The local Rio Tinto venue will be a comfortable
place for BYU. Although the Stueber Rugby Stadium is nice, Rio Tinto will be
incredible and we will need to pack the place to give the Cougars a real home
@Mormon UteI don't think they give scholarships for it which just
made hymn's comments all the more ridiculous. But I still think they can
recruit. But Utah definately has a top team and competes well with anyone.
I thought this was a club sport for both schools, which would make offering
scholarships a violation of NCAA rules.In any case, I think Utah
competes just fine. With BYU and all the other programs nationally.Go Utes!! There's plenty of season left to make up for the loss.
@hymn"I hate that they bring in ringers to beat the
utes"Another bitter ute huh? You realize utah can recruit
internationally as well don't you? Or isn't that pac10 windfall enough to allow
for it? Did you feel that way when bogut and neville were playing basketball for
the utes or is it just selective outrage when BYU recruits internationally?
They split the games. BYU won the wasatch, utah won the second time they met
Utah did win last year. And think of a bunch of white guys putting head dresses
on and dancing a war dance before a football game...a sight reserved for ward
talent night. (or the Ute mascot years ago) With the new league, and the new
alignments, Rugby is getting better and better. High school now fields its own
teams, 19 and under field teams. The warriors semi-pro team is in town....BYU
scholarships kids from the islands and from South Africa...while I hate that
they can bring in ringers to beat the Utes, I love that the competition gets
better and better. Great teams coming out of the East coast this year, more
coaches from Europe coaching in the U.S. Cal gets better, but so does the
competition. They've been beaten twice in three years: BYU and Utah. And Cal has
a 40 million dollar endowment. Give the sport five years and we'l be able to
compete with clubs around the world (not the national teams, that could still be
a ways off). The game is a lot more fun than football and it's only getting
I am a huge BYU fan, and would love to say that BYU has won six straight, but if
I'm not mistaken didn't utah win the game last year? I disagree about the
HAKAI love it, and I think that it belongs in Rugby.
I've really gained an appreciation for this sport over the last few years. It is
exciting and full of physical play. Hymn is correct this is the state to be in
if you're a fan of college, and for that matter high school, rugby. Great teams
at BYU and utah make for great games when they play each other.
I commend fans of both sides for the comments thus far. I see only respect for
the opponent and support for their team. If only football and basketball fans
@hymn The wasatch cup is a cool matchup. I do love BYUs field but
playing in Real's building is neat. There will be some big-time rugby match-ups
A fine game...BYU moved the ball very well, the backs were terrific...my Utes
front pack did well, but not enough spark in the back line. So congrats Blue on
a game well played. Now would you please get rid of the silly haka...it's
embarrassing to watch a fine team do their impression of the folk dancers after
the game. Great if it's your traditional tribal dance...a bit cheesy if you do
it for cultural night. All in all, good rugby...you beat a good team in a very
physical match. at one point I counted three players down while play was still
on. Utah is THE place for college rugby.
Rugby is back in town and it is wearing blue and white. Nice win, nice scrum
control keeping utah pinned down.Lets keep the fire burning, stay
hungry and focussed and the National Championship will be a reality.Poly Cougar Nation
Great wYn Cougs!! Can't wait to be there at the next game.
Good Job Cougs. Excellent trouncing of your opponent.
GOOO BYU I hope we beat every team like we did UTAH!!!