If we have haters, we're doing something right
@WADAD That is our point exactly. No one cares if they joined as a junior or
senior, the fact is Skeete is the 8th ranked kid in Canada and he joined to play
Many people owe coach Hunt and the South Sevier community a big apology by
saying that they "recruited" the Blackburn boys from Wayne county.
BTW, Thanks to everyone for not blowing a gasket. Good conversation. After
years of reading, this isn't the way it usually goes. LOL!!
I believe you are right. That is why they play the game. Brandon Evans, Chris
Alexis, Silva and Gobba, and the Christian Heritage boys. Those are just the
ones I can think of off the top of my head. They were great teams. Some of
them won, the others didn't. Doesn't change the fact does it? Do they give
scholarships for these schools? Do they go look for students? How many players
on WA have been there longer than 1 year? This is just a thought from someone
who has played and coached against these schools. In my opinion, all these
teams have forgot the concept of TEAM. It is all me, me, me. Yet these private
schools are playing TEAM ball.
I think I'd better clarify before somebody breaks a hip jumping on the
bandwagon. Aniulis is the only curernt player that joined WA as a senior, and
the only one that I can remember. Skeete is the only player on the team to join
WA as a junior. Kaba is a soph now, Krajacic started last year as a soph.
Kurtev started as a freshman. Crosby and Diop are usually the first two off the
bench and they came to WA as freshmen, they are sophmore now. All the rest of
the team were either freshmen or sophmores when they came to WA. Wa is moving to
2A next year anyway and Liahona will lose 80% of their team to graduation, so
things will get back to the way you all like it soon.
While I agree with the concerns about recruiting, we need to recognize all
private schools are not the same. I am no apologist for Liahona, but I had
a chance to meet the owners and few parents at a game earlier this year. Their
annual tuition is around $4000 per year compared to WA $30,000. This gives them
zero budget to hire professional recruiters like some private schools do. Also,
all of their players are from Utah county, and with few exceptions their players
could not play at the surrounding 5A schools. The exceptions like
Facemyer and maybe Nichols have been with Liahona since their freshman year when
Facemywer was cut from his local junior high team, a la Michael Jordon.
Liahona's biggest challenge is keeping the local 5/4A schools from recruiting
their players. I was told Pleasant Grove almost recruited Facmyer over this past
summer. And Timpview did pull a Liahona starter away two years ago. I love small
town 1A ball, and I too dislike what recruiting has brought to 1A, but their are
a few private schools that bring that same feel and challenges as their fellow
In the last 100 years private schools have won only three championships. Doesn't
sound like much recruiting is going on.
As far as I know, Nichols and Facemyer have been playing since even before
Liahona recived UHSAA status, but I do not know for sure.
When Bryce Valley wins a championship with two transfers a year ago, it's called
small town basketball at its best, when a private school wins with transfers
it's called a travesty.At least be consistent, rural fans.WA has lost two games this year to 1A teams, same with Liahona. If a title
means more to rural kids, which is just not true, but if you feel it is, the
rural kids should be able to play harder, and go out an beat them and take the
I though they had been there longer than two years. This is my point: Liahona
my be a private school, but those players have been there for 3 to 4 years.
They didn't go out and "recruit" for a championship this year. They
put in their time and are now reaping the rewards of hard work. Now take WA,
they went and recruited for a championship. Those kids haven't "put
in" the time. This is the type of recruiting that gets under our skin. At
the same time they are fun to watch. Although I do prefer to watch a kid that
has been in 1A and "came up" through the ranks, like Facemyer,
Nichols, Martin, Roundy.
It does not matter if they are from all different countries, the point is if
they had been there since they were Freshman then ok no problem. These ARE kids
that are being talked about, and kids on these other teams in these small
schools to that are being Talked about. Tell me that Skeete has been there more
than just this year. He is the best player on the team, without him you are not
where you are now. All 1 A Boys love basketball too and they all have to play by
the rules. BV just won their first Championship last year and they done it with
their own homegrown kids.
@BVGREEN You've got that all wrong. You see, first of all, the 5 players they
put out on the court in the closing minutes were all from different countries.
2nd of all you are writing a paragraph complaint about Wasatch Academy's team
and it's caliber. These are kids you are talking about, kids who love to play
basketball like anyone else in Utah. If Wasatch Academy was as bad as they've
been for the past 136 years, you would never have taken the time to write that
comment. This would not be an issue. Take that into account when you are saying
our team is careless. Too many hours have been put in to call our team a
"just go out there and play" type team. Think about it.
Since they were freshman, I think. I remember hearing about them as sophomores
I believe this is their third year playing, they were there when the team had
their first season as a JV schedule
How long has Nichols and Facemeyer been playing at Liahona?
Nichols was unconscious as he ripped BV apart in that 1st qtr. BV had to go to
a box & 1 to try to slow him down. That opened things up for Facemyer and
others. 11 boards to go with 29 points is a game to remember.Great games
on the schedule all across the board in Richfield today. Milford v Monticello
will be one to watch...
It was Nichols, and yes we will. However, Rich will give WA a much better game
than when they first met. I say WA gets a scare and wins by 5-10. Liahona rolls
ICS by 20 +. Rich then rolls ICS in the 3rd place game by 20 +. Liahona and WA
play an epic 'ship that comes down to the wire. If it can be kept close, Liahona
wins. If not, they'll lose big. It's gonna be great.
It was indeed Nichols and not Facemyer who scored all his team's 1st quarter
points. Nichols got his points in just about every way you can think of. From
acrobatic lay-ups in traffic, to a couple of sweet baseline 3s. Watching him and
BV's Kace Roundy take over for that first eight minutes was a sheer delight! I
am looking forward to seeing what Nichols and company do in the final two days
of this tournament.
good article. clarification though is that I believe it was Nichols, not
Facemyer, that scored all the first quarter points for Liahona. Will we have a
fourth showdown between WA and Liahona?