"They played well and beat us," Rose said. "Now we're faced with
a new challenge and that is to try to respond after we've been beat."
This reminds me a lot of the game last year when NM beat BYU. Most fans (not
all) were blaming the officiated. I can recall Tavernari yelling and screaming
at the REFs and at Steve Alford after the game. He would have been ejected in
any other venu. It is well-known to everyone that plays BYU at home, that BYU
gets that calls. They didn't get the calls in this game. It looked pretty fair
from my chair. I haven't seen any comments about Abou tackling Gary, knocking
him 10 feet back and out of bounds with the ball going to BYU. If wasn't the
refs. BYU didn't play as well as NM. That is why they lost. BYU will need to
regroup before the tourament. Old school is correct about one thing: Tournament
play is very physical and refs will let them play. BYU needs to find presence in
the paint and a competitive line-up. I believe Rose and the team can do that.
Good Luck to BYU, but please quit blaming the refs. They lost fair and square.
They are not the same team without Davies.
Well, I watched the game on TV, but the game was not in HD. The replays also
were very poor. Yes, the refs made some poor calls to start the game,
frustrating BYU and energizing New Mexico. Some of the calls were obviously
bad, and what was annoying was the inconsistency. The first foul of the game
was called on the BYU center who had his arms straight up, and if there was any
contact at all, it was slight. But at the other end there often was a great
deal of contact and no whistle. And that was what frustrated the Cougars and
especially Jimmer, who took a lot of bad shots and would have been better off
concentrating on his game and being patient instead of worrying about the
officiating. Still, with the way New Mexico was shooting the ball, the Cougars
would have had to play far better than they did to win. I think all this will
help BYU in the NCAA tournament, however, because refs tend to let things go in
the tourney, and with all the physical defense that BYU has had to endure this
year, the Cougars will be well prepared.
I am glad to hear that Davies is now in communication with Alford and Neil. He
is a potential NBA prospect. He may as well play for the team that always beats
I'm about to watch the game on DVR after seeing it in person last night. From
my seat it appeared that the referees were extremely one-sided, and yet I'm the
guy in the crowd who usually supports the refs when they make good calls with
which the home crowd disagrees. There wasn't much defending to do Wednesday. I
intend to look at the start of that game to see how often the refs got things
right. It's a lot easier to tell on HD TV.Still, I didn't think
Rose made the proper adjustments. When the Cougars got down by 20 there was
only one way to come back, and that was to put on a press, force a bunch of
turnovers and get the crowd going. The few times that the Cougars put on a hard
double team, the Lobo being defended usually got a bit panicky, but nobody was
playing the passing lanes.Jimmer was cold. Not even I have missed
the entire backboard from five feet away.
I get that players sign up for the honor code. But I don't get the public
humilation that byu makes the players go through by dismissing them and tossing
them out like they are a disease. Is that what the guy upstairs really wants his
peeps to be doing and treating people? I feel bad for Davies, in reality,
anywhere else, he is normal. Why is this happening over and over to african
american students in provo? That is the question. I'm not buying the lets give
the school praise for showing honor. The school threw a kid to the side and told
him he was a bad guy and judged him as evil. Sorry, that is not right.
Lets just go forward --- We seem to forget all the other games we played and won
and they were good teams.We all have a bad game now and then.If you have been
watching other top teams you know they have lost some games they should have
won.As a true BYU fan I look at the whole picture and say thanks for what you
have done.Win or lose won't change my support for the coaches and the team. Many
teams in the country would be happy to have our record.
@NehuI am mystified by Rose's lack of prep for both UNM games but to
call him "marginal at best" is ignoring his record and the
observations by people far more qualified than you or me.
Proud to be a Cougar fan. Proud to be associated with the university and its
standards.This game was always going to be a trap game. New Mexico
doesn't have much fear of BYU. But Coach Rose got it right when he said if they
played that way every night they'd be a good team.I suspect the team
even with Davies would have lost last night.MWC officiating from
anybody's perspective is bad, but the war by officials in conference against BYU
has been horrifying. If Steve Kerr and Clark Kellogg can see and comment on it,
it's pretty obvious.After next week, we can all just let the MWC rot
and get on with the better life to come for BYU and Utah.
Poorest job of coaching by Coach Rose that i have seen. He should have settled
his team down at the beginning. But they were off, and no changes were made.
Why did sit Abuo for a huge chunk of the second half? He was the only one
I would not like to be Wyoming on Jimmer's senior night. Coach Rose will find
the right line-up and get things turned around in time for the MWC and NCAA
tournament. 1 Seed? No. 3 seed? Why not. Good luck to Davies. He's a good
kid that will learn a lot about commitment. This experience will eventually help
him in life. Good luck to BYU in the MWC and NCAA tournament. This team is too
good to let one player and one bad loss stop them. They had an off night and
ran into a NM team that was blazing hot. Gordon is a beast inside. Someone from
BYU needs to step up and become a beast. You only get 24 hours to be down:)
Saturday is a tune-up game for the MWC, and senior night. With that said, it's
time to get over the loss and enjoy the success of this program.
Will you all just get over yourselves. New Mexico has BYU's number like BYU has
San Diego State's Number. BYU had to retool their offense in two days, they
looked lost, they were reeling from their loss of Davies. They had a horrible
shooting night and give New Mexico credit, they played great offense. I am sure
that even with Davies, BYU was doomed last night. I don't think BYU is falling
apart, Rose is a great coach, he will get this figured out in time to play the
tournament. I can see all the bandwagoners jumping ship. Only true fans will
stick with BYU through all of this. I mean, they have only lost 3 games this
season, it's not like they have completely collapsed or anything. Wait until
they are no longer playing ball to cry about it. So what if they end up with a 3
or 4 seed. Now the pressure is off of them. Now will they go far in the
tournament? Not if they can't get the big man issue figured out in time. The big
loss will mean a big drop in the polls though.
Those blaming this game on the REFS are amazing. Watching the game on TV, I
could hear what the fans wanted to be called, but the replays showed quite
different story. How about when Aboiuo freight trained Gary and they called it
out of bounds on NM? Yes, they let them play a physical game, but BYU set that
tone. They wanted the game to be physical. The truth is, BYU lost to NM the
last four times they played. I think it's safe to say NM has BYU's number in a
big way. I feel bad for BYU losing Davies. He's a great player, but throw in
his average numbers and NM still wins. NM played a great game. BYU didn't.
BYU better hope they don't draw NM again in the MWC tournament or they may face
another loss. In addition, NM didn't have a very good conference season due to
much hidden injury and illness. That team is much better than their record
indicates, and very dangerous. Good Luck Cougars. It's not over. You will do
well in the NCAA tournament, even without Davies.
I was in my normal seat at the game and was hopeful that the team would respond
to the dismissal with energy. They tried but couldn't get shots to fall and were
discouraged by the 10 minute mark. NM shot the ball well and rebounded on
offense very well. If NM plays like that from now on they'll do very well. We
will do better this Saturday against Wyoming if we shoot better. I wasn't
impressed by the refs but they didn't cause us to lose. Coach has 2 days to get
the ship righted. Next week might be a little rough if he doesn't get the team
playing to their potential. NCAA tourney might be a very short venture. Seeding
might be in the 5 to 7 range if we continue to lose. This is not going to be
what we hoped for but sometimes reality is tough. Hope Brandon stays and deals
with whatever he needs to so that he can become a better man.
i went to the game, the bottom line was the New Mexico shot the lights out. Yes
the cougars played horrible and you can say what you want about the refs but no
one was beating new mexico last night.
Did the ref's pull down all those boards? Hit all those shots? It was a home
game! The loss of Davies was evident! UNM went iside on the first possesion!
5-26 from behind the 3 point line, and you are blaming the refs?You lost
by 18 points and it was never really close after the first 2 minutes of the
game.BYU played its worst game of the year, after playing its best
game of the year against SDSU.
It was obvious that the Cougars were distracted, distraught, and in mourning.
They had no energy, no spark.Losing (not loosing like so many of you
literati spell the word) Davies that way is upsetting. I couldn't sleep the
night I heard the news. It doesn't help that I consider BYU's enforcement of
morality to be in opposition to gospel principles.The team was
hurting - their rhythm disrupted, their energy gone. How would you have reacted?
The talking heads seemed to think that Davies' suspension was like
an injury. Shrug it off and keep the pedal down.This is different,
emotional, devastating. The team's chemistry has been destroyed, maybe
temporarily, maybe permanently. A good kid gets his mistake spread over every
news outlet in the country. I am enraged that BYU does this stuff to kids. It
casts a very bad light on BYU and its mission. What earthly good comes out of
this treatment for "sinners"? Do we cast them out of the wards?When BYU boots out a student for morality issues I ask myself "Is
this what Jesus would have done?"I don't think so.
I truly feel bad for the BYU basketball team. They had a lot of promise and a
real shot of making it to the final four. Now, because of the unfortunate
mistake of one player, they probably won't make it past the 'sweet 16'.Now, as for some of the other posts on this article. I find it really pathetic
that it was somehow the refs fault that the cewgies lost by 18 points.(could
have easily been 20) I don't know how this works,.. but somehow the
cewgies NEVER lose a game, they just get "hosed by the refs".Just saying...Proud to be a Ute fan.
Please, this was not about the loss of Davies OR the refs last night. This team
choked plain and simple. They were taking shots you'd see in a game of
h-o-r-s-e. Abouo and Hartsuk couldn't hit an open 3 if you paid them, and Emery
couldn't hit water if he was in a boat. Every single loose ball ended up in the
hands of a lobo player. The team played scared, and it showed last night.Conversely, UNM hit everything they put up...from all over the court.
Why did the defensive strategy not change to cool the Lobos down? There's
plenty of blame to go around, but please don't use the refs as the scapegoat on
this on. The blame clearly rests with the team wearing white last night.The good thing is that we have WYO coming on Saturday. Which team will
show up then?
Its really poor sportsmanship when you blame the refs for last nights game!
Anyone who watched the game in the arena or on tv knew the refs let them play.
UNM was really hot last night - get over yourselves. They played well enough to
beat any team in the MWC last night.
Great job Cougars! Hey, there was one day the nation was talking about a number
one seed, so I hope you enjoyed that day, it will never happen again. Jimmer,
you are going to get killed in the NBA! Play some defense! Oh, prehaps if
Jimmer shot the ball 30 more times, BYU would have only lost by 10. There are a
lot of teams like New Mexico that will be in the dance - good luck trying to win
one game. If BYu beats Wyoming twice, they will get rocked by Colorado St or New
Mexico for the third time :) Best of luck to Davies, he will be sorely missed.
Emery is a stud, but no big men will kill the Cougs. Poor showing last night -
sad pathetic showing.
@nehuYes, Utah lucked out and beat UNM. UNM dioesn't bring their
best game against Utah and they don't have the mental edge over the Utes like
they have over BYU. Now, how did Utah do against all the other teams in the
MWC, as compared to BYU? Which team defeated Utah State, Weber State and Utah
twice?If Rose is marginal, where is Boylen, according to you? I'd
reserve judgement until those Aggies play in the NCAA Tournament. Good luck to
all those teams from the State of Utah and the MWC who actually get an invite to
During the first game in New Mexico BYU had a 13-point lead (53-40) and lost.
Coach Rose watched UNM score 12 straight points and just sat on the bench. A
time-out when they had an 8-point run potentially would have significantly
changed the momentum in that game. This time he called an early time-out but
BYU played NO defense; they got NO calls from the officials (such as Hartsock
being fouled over the back, having a held-ball and then the UNM player stole the
ball and NO whistle); and an emotionally drained team, staff and fans. My son
told me he could sense defeat when he entered the building before tip-off.Now that reality has struck, I hope they re-group and see what they can
do. If Davies had been injured the same players would have to step up and
contribute, but this was such an emotional thing. Now we need the Y to rise to
the occasion and take care of business. They can do that. What a shame they
need to share the conference crown with SDSU, who they handily defeated twice.
Play harder and smarter Y!
To all those that complain about officiating, look to your own team first. The
ref excuse is just a poor way to excuse such a bad performance. Look at
rebounding, shooting percentage, pretty sure the refs didn't go 1-9 from 3 point
range. It was your poster boy.Officiating is the lamest excuse out
there. Get over it and just admit you got beat by a team that was better last
Doesn't last night confirm the poor decision of BYU to kick Davies off the way
they did? Davies' poor decision went way beyond the BYU honor code. It affected
so many things beyond Davies. BYU should be ashamed the way that decision went
down. It could have and should have been handled differently. The worst decision
in BYU sports history.
I have no dog in this fight as I'm an Aggie fan but I do find it ironic that
despite all the BYU bravado and smack toward the Ute fans out there, that the
Utes can beat UNM and BYU simply chokes.A lot of comments about the
refs and I feel they had an impact but BYU was so poor at rebounding and
shooting that they couldn't have beat Provo high.Dave Rose is a
marginal coach at best. This BYU team oozes with talent but most of the time the
best they can manage is a contested 3 pointer? Really? I guess it works when you
are as talented as BYU but get a team with a little athleticizm and it spells
disaster, BYU is horribly exposed. That was evident last night.I do
give my best to Davies, he'll make it back.
I really cannot believe anyone would blame the officiating. As a cougar fan I
watched the game and would say the reason BYU lost is ONLY because of
themselves.Poor shooting. If your going to continue to throw
three's like that your going to lose. Many of the 3's were very poor selections
of shots. Yes, Jimmer looked terrible! He had many "open" threes and
missed.Their inside play was exposed. Can anyone get a rebound?
Seriously, poor boxing out. New Mexico is a good team. But I cannot believe
how poorly BYU played as a team and shot the ball at home.Blame no
one but yourselves, especially not the officiating. By halftime BYU was
shooting 24% from the field. They were getting beat in rebounding, and had tons
I have noticed a trend for BYU basketball games since New Mexico won the the
first game in the Pit. At a time when BYU seemed in control, New Mexico cranked
up the physical play and whistles fell silent. Since then, all the teams are
playing BYU much more physical and the officiating is interesting. It is almost
as if the MWC does not BYU to be the representative since of course they are
leaving. While officiating last night did not cause the horrible shooting,
officiating does though influence games, the tempo and players who then play
frustrated are not as effective, which is pretty obvious. That is something
though the team needs to deal with as play through but it can be hard when it is
more and more one sided in the MWC. I remember a few games back when an
official told Dave Rose to pull Jimmer because he was losing his cool...I
thought at that time, hmmm, who was the real problem. Anyway, Davies is a loss
but BYU has other players that can step up if they want their chance just like
others have. Good luck BYU and remember to have fun!
What is the deal with NM and BYU. NM looks unstoppable against BYU. Seems like
3 of their guys have a career night when they play the Cougs. Here's to hoping
BYU can bounce back and have a good run in the tourney.
BYU lost all control last night. They all fell apart. Coach Rose, who usually
makes great adjustments, wondered where his team went.Turns out
Davies was carrying the load this year and letting Jimmer take all the credit.
Jimmer can shoot, but Davies can make points, rebound, and actually played
defense.If BYU's starting five don't show some leadership on
Saturday, Wyoming will clean up. They hustle and rebound the entire game. They
don't shoot that well, but those kids in Wyoming hustle.If the refs
don't call it tight, BYU will have some troubles. They rely on a tightly called
game. I just hope they can keep their cool and play.
Typical of my Cougs - make a big win and then lose to someone they SHOULD beat.
How many years have we seen this in both football and basketball? But this was
exceptional with a possible number 1 seeding, POY, a chance to actually get past
the first round of the NCAA's. All they had to do was play up to their
potential. No BYU team has ever lost like this with so much on the line. I'm not sure which was worse: Davies' infraction and getting kicked off
the team or the total collapse of the team last night AT HOME. This certainly
doesn't bode well for Rose who can't get his boys up when it counts. If they
can't get up after a big game with SDSU (twice), what do they think the
post-season is about??And Jimmer, how many 30 footers do you need to
clang before you stop shooting 3's? Even I could score 30 if I shot as many
times as you. We may now not even make it through the MWC
tournament. What a quick turnaround!!
I was at the game. Emotional let down for sure. The poorest reffing i have ever
seen combined with some of the poorest cougar shooting percentages and that
spelled disaster. I would hope a formal investigation into the reffing would
take place. Blatant non-calls and blatant poor calls. Very sad. It felt as if
the commissioner had instructed the refs to make bad calls reminiscent of
"Remember the Titans" starring Denzel Washington. How many times does
a star player have to be hit on the shoulder, then the body then the wrist and
still not get a foul called on the defenders - all 3 to 4 of them!!! I guess
about 15-20 times. This is one of the reasons basketball is a joke of a sport.
The refs have too much control of the game. This is why church ball is so
dangerous - poor reffing. I applaud BYU players for keeping their cool on the
court as they were playing 5 on 8 with New Mexico having an additional 3 guys in
stripes on their team for most of the game.
"He couldn't hit from the inside, neither could his teammates, so he drove
and pounded it in the paint." This makes no sense, obviously you meant
"All it took to humble BYU as a No. 3 ranked team was New Mexico."And three extremely bias referees. My daughter was at the game and it
was obvious, even to she who knows little about the game (her words), that a BYU
player cannot foul from ten feet away from the guy he supposedly fouled.
If this were happening to our rival, the Colorado Buffaloes, I might be pleased.
Here's to a Cougar comeback.
From the eyes of a homer..."If you polled the crowd, he should
have shot 10 more from the stripe. He had a finger scrape on his left arm near
his elbow crease, pink shoulders and forearms. He kept checking his appendages
like he couldn't believe they were still attached to sinew"a
The dream of a Final Four visit was fun for a couple of days. Does Trent
Plaisted have a year of eligibility left?