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Published: Sunday, Feb. 27 2011 11:05 p.m. MST

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Salt
Murray, UT

See Lunardi's bracketology. Based on his locations (#1s play in Tulsa, Charlotte and Cleveland (x2)) Each of these locations is scheduled for Friday - Sunday. If this is true, the highest seed BYU could get is a #2 in West or East region.

Anybody know the scheduling factors behind NCAA's decisions?

metamoracoug
metamora, IL

ECR:

You forgot AZ. ST. Marys has been in and out of the top 25 and UTEP has also been close to being ranked (admittedly not made it into the top 25 yet though).

Morpunkt:

Agreed. there has been a lot of hoopla about the Big East being so great, but I don't see it.

wyoming cougar
Green River, WY

I'd be fine with a 1 or 2, & don't think it matters much-

but the arguments about duke are ridiculous- Duke has lost 3 games, 2 to unranked teams (and the third wasn't ranked until just recently), have a weaker schedule, a weaker RPI, and a weaker conference. Just because it's duke and mike k doesn't give them automatic priority.

Good luck this week Cougars, and in the MWC tournament. Can't wait as I'll be there cheering you on all week.

coleman51
Orem, UT

My prediction is that BYU will run the table through the MWC tournament. Jimmer will be the Player of the Year for the NCAA. The MWC will place Kawhi Leonard at it's player of the year and Steve Fisher as the coach of the year. The only serious attention BYU will get will be national attention. A one seed is possible, although a two seed more likely.

So. Cal Reader
Escondido, CA

As a Cougs Fan, I obviously hope they get a #1 seed in the West; however, the reality is that I believe the East Coast bias will simply prevent it. MWC is a Top 4 conf. this year; however, I still feel MWC is still unappreciated/recognized nationally-- thank you Craig Thompson with that top notch MWC TV contract!!

Owl
Salt Lake City, UT

In Arizona | 7:56 a.m. Feb. 28, 2011

That's not a coherent analysis of the Cougar team. Those generic criticisms would fit any top team. It's like saying one of the two teams will lose a given game.

Zoniezoobie
Mesa, AZ

This is premature. They have to win out first, the remainder of the regular season and the MWC tournament, before their "case is made".

The caption would better read, 'the Cougars are making a case for a no. 1 seed'.

panamadesnews
Lindon, UT

BYU can't be a #1 seed this year. The only #1 seed that plays on Sat, plays the 2nd week on Sun. BYU will have to be the #2 seed in Denver to avoid any Sun play (or a lower seed). There is no other way, unless CBS Sports has the brackets posted incorrectly. It probably has something to do with stagering the games so they can all be televised. #2 is not much different than #1, except the #2 will end up playing the #1 if they both win out - so that means conversely that the #1 will be playing the #2 if they both win out. I'm very ok with BYU being a #2 seed. That is the way it has to be. If they receive the #1 seed they will have to decline it anyway because of the no Sun play.

3grandslams
Iowa City, IA

"BYU has had a No. 1 profile all season. The problem is, there weren't enough No. 1 seed spots open," Lunardi explained Saturday night. "Well, Duke's loss and the loss by Texas have given that crack to the Cougars. It's really BYU against Duke for the fourth No. 1 seed. BYU has a better RPI, a better strength of schedule and more top 50 wins. They also have 10 true road wins, most in the country. So it's Brigham Young, No. 1 in the West."

Since when did previous performance x out current play? SDSU was being considered for the #1 spot and they've NEVER won a tournery game. Stop with the glass ceiling for the Cougs, they deserve to be #1. Any other team in the country with their RPI would have it sewn up even if they didn't win their conf. tourney.

Troll Hunter
Cottonwood Heights, UT

What no comment from HedgeHog ??

1 or 2 seed in the Tournament, I'll take it! There doesn't seem to be that truely elite team from the Eastern Big Basketball Programs this year, BYU may have a real good shot at Final 4 & Championship Game ! With a clutch player like Jimmer and the play of other players like Jackson Emery, Noah Hartstock, Brandon Davies, Charles Abouo, Kyle Collinsworth and Stephan Rodgers stepping up late in the season, BYU just may be the best team going into the Tournament this year. Dave Rose has done a outstanding job, in my opinion he is easily in the top 5 best coaches in the country, with him running the B-Ball Program BYU will be mention with the best in NCAA Basketball for years to come! BYU! don't let him get away! Pay him what he is worth!

SammFan
Sammamish, WA

There seem to be a lot of insight into the obvious here. Of course they have to win Wed and probably win out - to get the #1 Seed. That's part of what this is about. Enjoy the moment and where they are TODAY. They'll be wherever they ARE 2 weeks from now.

If they were talking about Duke or Texas or Pitt instead, we'd be a collective basket case right now - because the Cougs took care of business and they didn't. If you're not in the Top-Seed dialog now, the Committee won't suddenly decide you're relevant two week from now. Enjoy it and go win games! Go Cougs! Go Jimmer!

Cougars1
Bluffdale, UT

panamadesnews and Salt,
BYU CAN get a #1 seed. The selection committee picks the top four teams and then they make whatever changes need to be made to accommodate those teams. BYU had a seed in 2003 that required them to play on Sunday if they made it to the Sweet 16. They didn't, but the committee told them they would make whatever changes they had to to accommodate them if they made it that far. Those posted dates and schedules are not set in stone. If BYU deserves a #1 seed they will get it.

DSB
Cedar Hills, UT

Why should BYU's postseason history have any bearing on their seeding this year? Have they been upset in any NCAA tournament? Not really, if you consider that an 8-9 matchup is as close as you get to a tossup game. Whoever wins that game, it's not an upset by any standard. So, BYU has pretty much held serve for their seeding. Why would they be punished for that?

But, of course the NCAA basketball seeding committee will also be looking at BYU's history of winning football bowl games for some unknown reason, if you listen to some commenters. You realize BYU has won 4 of the last 5 bowl games, don't you? Oh, I get it - they'll be looking at BYU's FIRST 5 bowl games, 30 years ago. I guess it's another 8 seed for BYU this year.

matt4226
Holladay, UT

Joe Lunardi now has BYU as a #1 seed in the West in his Bracketology. From what ESPN is showing, the 1st and 2nd round games in Denver will be played on Thu/Sat and the 3rd and 4th round games in Anaheim will also be played on Thu/Sat. This should allow BYU to be the #1 seed in the West assuming they win out their remaining regular season games and the MWC tournament.

So. Cal Reader
Escondido, CA

Re: "panamadesnews". Excellent observation! I understand that Doug Gottlieb (ESPN basketball analyst) has BYU currently targeted for a #2 seed, which is probably based exactly on the point you raised. Good catch!

DSB
Cedar Hills, UT

I like a #2 seeding for BYU. I don't think the matchups are all that different for #1 and #2 seeds. If they go deep into the tournament, I like BYU's chances better as a #2 seed against a #1 seed Ohio State, Purdue, Duke, or any of the other possible #1 seeds. I think it's possible that, with the roles reversed, any of those teams might have a more dangerous chip-on-the-shoulder mentality if they thought they were unfairly seeded below a perceived undeserving BYU. It's like bulletin board motivation. Even a slight elitist, entitled mentality as the #1 seed might give those same teams just enough overconfidence to make a difference in favor of BYU.

And maybe that's all psychobabble, and it won't make a difference at all, but I think that maturing college athletes let emotions influence their play enough that every little mental advantage does make a difference.

Salt
Murray, UT

Ahhh! Thanks Cougars1 - it appears that locations are not guaranteed any particular seed which allows flexibility for the committee . . . I was wonderin why they'd set it up like that.

cactusflats
American Fork, UT

Who wants a #1 seed? Do you really want to be expected to make it to the Final Four? Why not go out and earn it with a #2 or #3 seed rather than dealing with the expectations of a #1. It's rare for all four top seeds to make it to the Final Four.

I Will Be Till I Die
Holladay, UT

Don't forget folks that the 1998 Utes went into the NCAA seeding process ranked #2 in the nation, and only came away with a #2 seed in the tournament.

If the choice is between Duke and BYU, Duke will get the #1 seed just because they are Duke, regardless of their record this year.

WA_Alum&Dad
Marysville, WA

Up until BYU's win at SDSU, it was in the MWC's interest to see the Cougars lose, since we are leaving the conference. Hence the terribly one-sided officiating of the past 3 weeks. Now that the cougs have beaten their fair-haired child twice and the Aztecs are out of the running for a #1 seed and nearly out of the running for MWC champion, and since BYU is the darling of the big sports channels and is being watched nationally & Jimmer has the POY as his to lose, it is *very much* in the MWC's interest to see BYU win out.

I think we will see a dramatic shift in the way the refs call the next two home games and the MWC tournament games. If we do, you will know definitively what a corrupt conference the MWC is. Good riddance!

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