What it comes down to is: Are you going to find a better player then DW to build
around? How many PG out there passes first, can get there own shot or score 30+
on any given night. And to say DW had a bad attitude is comical. He was the one
player who laid it on the line every night until the past few weeks. None of
those draft picks will be the caliber of DW. So sputtering is right, we are
essentially starting over with less talent. DW should have be treated similarly
to MJ. Find the pieces and build around him. Now Utah is just a filler game for
the teams who spend money to win championships.
The NBA needs a Franchise Player rule.Join the facebook group!
Does the Jazz have the coaches to develop Favors and the draft picks. I'm
really suspect on this. Then it becomes trading Williams for Harris and that
isn't a good trade. I understand the perceived need to do something but I also
can't feel that the Jazz are fast becoming a franchise in disarray.
Greg pulled the trigger on this for one primary reason. Melo forced DEN to trade
him to NY only. He refused to sign an extension with any team other than NY. DWill could have done the same thing and held Utah hostage. Further, it
would have been a media circus worse than Boozer. The Jazz front office hates
drama. This year was already blown up by a bad record and Sloan
leaving. It is wise to get the trade you want and get the drama over in 2 weeks.
The Jazz got salary relief, picks for the future, Favors (coveted),
and an above average PG who can run the team pretty well for this year and can
be traded in the future if necessary.The Jazz got all of that on top
of AK and Memo's expiring contracts to rebuild with. KOC/Corbin can
build the team they want from the ground up. They are no longer hand
cuffed by Sloan's biases. For better or worse they will build a different
approach than the current one which so far has not worked that well. At least Greg is not sitting tight and pretending all is well.
Anyone who thinks Deron was going to sign an extension next year is crazy. I
really, like D-Will but without him giving a strong indication that he would be
back, the move was essential to the future of the Jazz. At best the Jazz had a
50/50 chance of getting him to sign a long term extension, and in a small market
that isn't good enough. Ask Cleveland how the whole "wait and see"
approach is going these days. The Jazz now have 4 lottery picks (Favors #3,
Hayward #9, Nets 2011 currently #6, and Warriors 2012) in 3 consecutive years,
along with their own picks. Couple that with AK's ridiculous contract coming off
the books this year and the Jazz are in for a fun off season. In addition, they
can move Okur's expiring contract next year for talent, and/or trade Millsap for
very good talent. Don't be shortsighted when looking at this trade. The Jazz are
not better today then they were yesterday, but they are in a better position
going forward then they EVER have been. Sputterish, don't be bitter just because
you live in southern Canada.....
take a look at Kevin O'Connor in this photo and it pretty much tells all. This
entire organization is following Cleveland into the land of the ugly. The Cavs
thought they could rebound from LaBron and I'm sure there are delusional Jazz
fans who think the Jazz can rebound from Darin. The Jazz will be the worst team
in the West following Clevelands lead as the worst in the East. Fans buy tickets
BECAUSE of players like Darin Williams and I suspect the empty seats will tell
Jazz ownership all they need to know about this bone headed move.
(coninued) I always got the impression DWill was just waiting to see what moves
the Jazz make before deciding where to finally stay. So we interpret that as
meaning nothing could get him to stay? What kind of winning franchise ships off
its superstar because of jitters? Wouldn't it be wiser (and more
effective) to keep trying to build around the strengths we already have, rather
than throwing everything out and imagining that an inexperienced coach and
yet-to-be identified 1st-round picks would just put it all together? It's going
to be 10 years or more before we have another winning season, but probably not
even then, because we'll ship off our best players every 5 years in hopes of
miraculously landing "better" POTENTIAL players. Smart move, Jazz,
the empire has fallen.
I'm glad so many Jazz fans live in La-La Land. I'm normally optimistic, but
where in anybody's right-thinking mind does this turn out to be a good move?
Consider: there are 30-somthing NBA teams, half of which are constantly
promising positive "building" & championship runs. None who are
even reomotely in championship range would EVER trade off their one all-star,
let alone right after letting their one stable entity in a Hall of Fam Coach
leave. I've withheld judgment on KOC and Greg Miller up till now, but it's
obvious to me that they have been sucked in by all the media hype this past year
and managed to convince themselves that if Lebron and Carmelo could mess up
their teams, that DWill would, too. What successful team or business operates
on a foundation of fear? Deron might have left, but you know, he was pretty
straightforward despite his unwillingness to over-commit long term. I always
got the impression he was just waiting to see what moves the Jazz make before
deciding where finally stay. So we interpret that as meaning nothing could get
him to stay? (cont)
Whether it was right or wrong to trade D-Will, sadly, it's going to be a long,
LONG time before we have a team that other teams in the league fear to play in
the playoffs, e.g., the Malone-Stockton era or even like our 2007 team when we
went to the Western Conference finals.Bummer......
I'm not buying it.You just don't trade away your very best player.
Management better hope it works out! Trade D-Will????
Great move Jazz. This has very high potential to pay off BIG in the next couple
of years. I understand that both picks are not protected. Both should be lottery
I am going to have to wait until the season is over to evaluate whether it was a
good or bad trade.But, on the surface, it appears that the jazz took a
step backward in the off season when they lost Matthews and boozer. Now it seems
they took another step backward on this trade. All, while saying they won't do
anything that doesn't make them better.I really, really hope that Favors
and Harris surprise me!! I sincerely hope they do make the Jazz a better team.
I can see the Jazz using those picks to bring back a talented 2 guard. The Jazz
have assets to really build a great team for years to come.The big
question is, will they do it this year or wait for the off-season?What ever the Jazz decide to do, I support them.Keep fighting, keep
working hard! GO JAZZ!!
It was a fantastic move. Miller avoided becoming the Cavs and he avoided all
the Melo-drama that the Nuggets went through this year. If DWill is
a 10, Harris is an 8. Favors has the potential to be a 10.Fantastic
move. I love DWill, I will miss him, but wow, what a great move.
This is the best Jazz trade of all time...I still cannot believe it! DeRon is a great player with a poor attitude & would have never resigned
with us...I do not think he will resign with NJ either.NJ will be
left with nothing...we will have 4 lottery picks and 3 million in cash!Talk about being in the right place at the right time!I feel bad
for New Jersey...I Really do!
Excellent move by the Jazz...NJ will regret this when DeRon walks away after
about 50-70 games in a Net uniform.I cannot believe what the Jazz
received in return!Talk about being in the right place at the right
This deal is only good if the Draft Picks are NOT protected.
The pick the Jazz received from the Nets will likely be a No. 6 through 10 pick,
which is right in the range of Jimmer on the NBA mock draft boards.One of the challenges the Jazz have in keeping players is simply having
players that want to live in Utah. I would assume Jimmer would be willing to
spend the next 10-15 years in Utah. I don't foresee Jimmer being THE player, but
A player that the Jazz can find stability and build around.
A true bummer losing a player with Deron's skills as both a player and team
leader. Good luck, Deron and good health to you and your family.Great to
be getting Favors. Let's hope he stays for at least 5 years.Nets draft
pick give chance to Jazz for top point guard in the upcoming draft.
I'd bet a good portion of my next paycheck that the Jazz make another deal
before the deadline.I don't think the Jazz will trade AK, although
after what happened today nothing would surprise me. I think his $18 million
salary coming completely off the books next year really appeals to a Jazz team
that suddenly is in the middle of rebuilding.I doubt they could move
Okur. I doubt they will trade Milsap. So that leaves CJ, and Bell or they could
turn around and trade Harris.My gut tells me that Bell will get
thrown into a deal somewhere tomorrow. But honestly I like every other Jazz fan
have no clue.
There are many teams indicating they would have bid if they knew DWill were
available. Talk is cheap but this is probably not the "best" deal Utah
could have gotten for DWill. However, it was clean and quick with no
circus. Let's hope all of the Jazz fans who have been clamoring for
DWills scalp and for massive change are happy. The rumor of Bell for
Johnny Flynn makes not sense to me. The Jazz have 96 minutes at
PF/C. They can now divide them between AJ/Millsap/Favors. That is 32 each or
35/35 and 28. That is a very good front line. AJ prefers the left
side. Millsap has usually played the right side and I assume Favors will play
some of both for a year or 2. Now if the Jazz can fix the
"wings who can shoot problem" and get a decent defense the Jazz might
be back in business in a year or 2. I am not thrilled with Harris
replacing DWill. This was a salary dump as much as anything. I do
not blame Greg for not being willing to pay lux tax for a lotto team.
Rumor is MN is interested in getting Bell. It makes financial sense
to dump more salary to get out of the lux tax for this year. Not
sure what MN would offer back. Wallace appears to be going to POR.
So far nothing on AK who would be a logical choice for a salary