Utah Jazz: Players 'shocked' by Deron Williams trade


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  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Feb. 24, 2011 10:29 p.m.

    Dont dog on jimmer .. how many playas can rise up from anywhere anytime any angle in transition off screens how does anyone guard that doesnt matter who you are .. has nice pop in his legs is crafty and is fearless..makes touch shots .. im not saying draft him in the lottery but if we are late lottery ya gotta consider it.. plus white guys are more likely to stay in slc and be loyal even if he does thrive at the nba level and would become a wanted commodity ..so im not going to bet against him but i havent made up my mind on where he is safe to draft yet.. it would depend on who's still on the board..

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Feb. 24, 2011 3:39 p.m.

    Darin was the best point guard in the NBA along with Rose of Chicago. Darin was a player the Jazz could only dream of landing and so they trade him for a bunch on garbage. This entire franchise is dead in the water. Expect the Jazz to follow the Cavs in futility for years to come. What a sorry collapse of an entire organization. First Miller passes, then Sloan retires by force and now Darin is traded. Oh boy, expect the bag-heads and boo-birds to start appearing in the stands as the losses pile up. Nothing left to watch or care about with the Jazz.

  • Al Bundy murray, ut
    Feb. 24, 2011 2:09 p.m.

    This is about D-will and the Jazz not Jimmer! He wont be able to get his shot off at the next level!!! The MWC is a long way from the NBA!!! He will be a role player and need to get passes out of double teams, I agree if he is open he will do well. Plus he will get torched on D!

  • A Guy With A Brain Enid, OK
    Feb. 24, 2011 1:34 p.m.

    Anybody else want to bring Jerry back?

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    Feb. 24, 2011 1:29 p.m.

    Management didn't even have the decency (or the guts?) to tell Williams face to face he was being traded and he finds out about it by watching TV?!?!?!!?

    Neither Larry Millor OR Jerry Sloan would have treated even the lowest player on the team that way!

    Oh, Jazz, I've lost lot and LOTS of respect for you now.

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    Feb. 24, 2011 1:25 p.m.

    So management dumped him because they 'thought' they'd lose him in the future?

    Would Larry Miller have done that?

    I doubt it.

    What ever happened to trying to treat someone so well that it becomes a desirable place to stay?

    In terms of stiupidity this seems to me this ranks only slightly below letting things get to the point where Jerry said he'd had enough.

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    Feb. 24, 2011 1:06 p.m.

    RE: carabaoU | 4:48 p.m

    IT took like 15 years of playing together for the team reach the finals,

    and even then the NEVER one best two teams,

    if there was no jordon ( and when jordon was out the league they still couldn't win)

    then indian would won the champioship,

    sorry folks the jazz were never one of the best two teams ( that would be chicago and indiana)

    and not even have bestteam in west (the west was WAAAY down and better teams like the lakers and surs were still young),

    and one of those years they made it to finals was pure luck on a last second 3 pointer.

    The jazz never had players you need to win champioship, NOR a system to use those layers,

    they were always lacking greatness in the 2 and 3,

    the best they ever did was when they had horny with his bad knees.

    NO. any honest jazz fan would recognize under slaon they never were good enough and system held them back.

    now now that sloan regime is over the jazz can now get players you need and implement a system that actually uses them, and win a championship.

  • Anonymous Infinity American Fork, UT
    Feb. 24, 2011 1:06 p.m.

    When Stockton and Malone retired/left it was over for the Jazz. The league has evolved into players or owners looking out for themselves. All the mid to small market teams which other than Boston, New York, Chicago and Los Angeles is all the rest of the franchises in the league have no shot, and will continue to be the training ground for new phenoms and other pretenders coming into the league, who will end up moving around as time goes on. All of this moving scenario aggrevates the have not franchise fans and is leading to a lot of bellyaching. The same holds true with all the other professional leagues. So live with it, pay the $20 to $1,000 plus per ducat and purchase all the other dewdads at your local outlet and praise the Lord we live in America; the Land of the Free.

    Go Jazz.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    Feb. 24, 2011 12:24 p.m.

    Forced decisions are not necessarily good decisions. But as the situation developed and was heading in a more southerly direction at least we can credit KOC with salvaging a crew. Maybe a shipwrecked crew... but at least a crew with a couple of lifeboats and some preservers. They can't very well continue to pursue the objective they started with...so turn around and head back to shore and rebuild. there is no other choice to live with.

  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Feb. 24, 2011 11:50 a.m.

    @ me myself and i .. yep i do blast koc for all the horrible picks he has made in the past so what and i still dont like him as a gm .. but he did make the right move for once so i still will give him the credit he deserves for finally making a bold move .. maybe he has learned from his mistakes..we shall see in june this year and next if he can finish it off with some nice picks..

  • Me, Myself and I Blanding, UT
    Feb. 24, 2011 11:11 a.m.

    @jcrotty 25
    You praise Kevin O'Connor in one post and blast the majority of his draft picks in another. Of course you called for the NOW better players the Jazz could have drafted and passed on. Prove it! Oh that's right you can't. As far as the Stevenson trade is concerened for me it was the straw that broke the camel's back and showed the world that O'Connor is a horrible GM. Add it to all the blunders you called him on and how can you praise him even if you like this trade. I think the Jazz got more than fair value for Williams just don't think it was the right move at this juncture.

  • Me, Myself and I Blanding, UT
    Feb. 24, 2011 10:34 a.m.

    Once again Jazz fans contradict themselves and make themselves look foolish. This time in the online poll questions asked by the DesNews. I find it hard to make sense of 52% of those polled say the Williams trade was a good thing and 60% of the same people polled say they regret to see Williams go. Which is it? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

  • TheHailstorm South Weber, UT
    Feb. 24, 2011 10:30 a.m.

    I see nothing but an upside to this trade. In my opinion, we would have lost Deron anyway and the move brought in money, players, and draft picks.I look at OKC .. they had to change and go with a whole new team and they are doing very well now. KOC did his job and is a very good manager in a tough position. Patience is time well spent and the fans of the Jazz just have to be patient as they rebuild the future.Favors is only 19 and could develop into a good player as the coaches work with him, including Hornececk getting him a mi-range jump shot like he did with Millsap.The Jazz didn't have a first round pick and now they could be in the lottery again this year. KOC and the scouting staff found Millsap @ #47 and Mathews wasn't even drafted, so I think the future is bright as the new players and rookies get playing time and develop team-work among the group. 3 years from now should be enough time to have a solid team that works well with each other.
    Just give them time.

  • jonjon Cedar Hills, UT
    Feb. 24, 2011 9:47 a.m.

    I respect Dwill for his honesty. He was incredible to watch. Obviously this year was different and the Jazz got a great deal out of this. DWill will get a standing ovation from me when he comes back to Utah.

  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Feb. 24, 2011 9:38 a.m.

    @Kakashi... exactly right couldnt have said it better myself.. someone who is thinking like me your a smart man...

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    Feb. 24, 2011 2:38 a.m.


    i've been pulling for kyrie irving...that dude is awesome...if we get more lottery picks for next years draft...we might get harrison barnes and kyrie irving...make it happen two lottery picks + Favors + Jefferson + Millsap + Hayward...its like what happened with OKC when they got Durant Jeff Green on the same year...then russel westbrook on the next... hope the same thing happens to us...but still props to d-will for being classy when he left...im still a fan of his...and would definitely watch nets games...

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    Feb. 24, 2011 2:07 a.m.

    The future looks a whole lot better as wellas brighter already. It didn't take a rocket scientist to see that the outcome of sitting around and waiting for "I'll Decide's Contract to expire was only going to amount to a free one way ticket out of Salt Lake for Williams anyways. He didn't have anything to lose and really no incentive to have to sustain an all out regime to perform. Once someone who isn't happy where they're at realizes the the impact of that self realization, then attitude definitely becomes an issue. I finally think that KOC at the incredulus unintended and after-the-fact loss of a much more critical team asset suddenly realized that his star PG was fast becoming a fading liability. It suddenly became a BFO moment for him. KOC got slapped in the face with... the repercussion of a very "Blinding Flash Obvious" moment. The "Seats" were determined to have their say... and they have. Fortunately KOC had the sense to not drag this out any further... but to try and minimize the collateral damage. For all intents and purpose this is no longer title hunt for 2011.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Feb. 24, 2011 12:55 a.m.

    Under Sloan there was "continuity".

    Greg is now calling the shots. If a player does not produce Greg is not likely to put up with it. He is not afraid of change. He has finally taken control of this team.

    It was not DWill's team (ever). It is not now AJs or Corbin's or even KOC's.

    Greg has come out and will make bold decisive moves. He may be wrong sometimes but he will fix the weaknesses.

    The Jazz as an organization are still pretty loyal but they are going to be more results oriented.

    They also are going to focus on younger cheaper players. The Sloan days of expensive VET bias is gone. VETs are fine but don't over pay them.

    Do your job or get moved.

    AJ,AK and Millsap are playing well. Adding Favors into that mix is a formidable front line.

    Hayward has to shoot. Evans becomes an SF. A good shooting SG is now crucial and an upgrade in D is essential.

    If the Jazz tank they get to keep their pick for this year?

  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Feb. 24, 2011 12:33 a.m.

    If we get perry jones and kire irving from duke it is officially ova you gotta pull it off koc we are on our way baby!!!two lottery picks and we are back.. kyrie irving is twice the athlete as dwill will ever be...

  • Utah'95 FPO, AE
    Feb. 24, 2011 12:29 a.m.

    Coach Corbin sais, "He's a great player and he's a good teammate for the guys."

    That pretty much says what I think of Williams - better player than teammate.

    Hopefully the Jazz draft well with the picks they got in the trade.

  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Feb. 24, 2011 12:02 a.m.

    i was the only one on here screaaaaming not to let wesley mathews go and now im telling all of you .. let it be heard here and now .. letting dwill go for that trade was brilliant .. again when is the last time a pg won a championship as the best player on his team .. this is best move the jazz have ever made ... good job koc finally..pg is deepest position at all levels..college high school and nba..we can now build the only way a small market team can and thats with depth drafting and dynamic players

  • HerbSewell Las Vegas, Nevada
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:55 p.m.

    My favorite is when people on the forums talk about "he was a cancer," etc. It's really funny the level of intellect here.

  • IDJazz12 Pocatello, ID
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:40 p.m.

    I get and understand the trade but Jazz are just a bunch of average players with an unproven rookie coach. The writing is on the wall.
    I know many people are happy with the trade but this team is not looking to compete for anything for three years specially with Heyward and Favors combining for 5 points a game this year. No team competes for playoffs let alone championships without at least a couple of stars. Look at the top teams in the league right now and they all have a minimum of two stars with really good role players. Jazz have a couple of role players and no stars.
    The time has finally come to drop the season tickets and spend that money on a cruise with the wife. At least I get good memories with that and not an expensive nighlty dissapointment.

  • ohplease springfield, il
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:37 p.m.

    Surprise! Surprise! Surprise! Jazz get blown out by Mavs. More blowouts to come. Stay tuned.

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!

  • Draft dumbie Farmington, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:03 p.m.

    On an intellectual level, I understand that the Jazz needed to make the trade, because Deron had been unwilling to commit to re-sign up to this point in time, and the Jazz did not want to be placed in the situation that Denver, Cleveland, Toronto or Phoenix found themselves in (or that the Jazz found themselves in with Carlos Boozer at the end of last season).

    However, on an emotional level, I feel really sad, almost like I had a family member die. Deron Williams was the one Jazz player that I really enjoyed watching, and now I won't get a chance to watch him play very often. I don't think there are many Jazz fans who didn't really love Deron Williams.

  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    Feb. 23, 2011 8:53 p.m.

    I wonder if ohplease is related to miles?

  • Woodyff Mapleton, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 8:35 p.m.

    It is good he gone, he was a 'cancer' in the locker room and the Jazz can build for the future. They should be able to make a couple picks next year and improve the team. It was obvious with Williams the team was going no where.

  • ohplease springfield, il
    Feb. 23, 2011 8:23 p.m.

    Nah, I'm going to stick around and watch the Jazz lose to the Mavericks. Go, Mavs!!!

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    Feb. 23, 2011 8:23 p.m.

    Guess the Deeecision really wasn't up to you after all was it Coach D???

    The Seats have Spoken!!!

  • gazelle Murray, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 7:57 p.m.

    Re:Ohplease I thought you were leaving?

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    Feb. 23, 2011 7:44 p.m.

    wow...i think i said this a few weeks ago...they pulled it off...the package deal that was meant for melo...went to us...two future first round draft picks...favors and harris...they are going to blow the team up...I think this is partly the reason why Jerry retired...i think o'connor told Jerry that they would trade deron...and jerry dont want any part of it...so he retired...just a hunch though....

  • Tom Smith Sandy, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 7:21 p.m.

    You don't tug on Superman's cape
    You don't spit into the wind
    You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger
    and you DON't mess around with the Head Coach.

    Williams has been around long enough to know better.

  • What's up Layton, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 6:37 p.m.

    Loser like Boozer

  • Vince the boonies, mexico
    Feb. 23, 2011 6:21 p.m.

    Almost a "complete" new start. No more sucking up to anyone anymore This will free up our new coach , big Al, Hayward,Fess, Evans and others. Now all the players can clean the do it my way or else slate. Just 2 years ago Harris was an all-star and lord knows how good Favors can be. 3 mil and 2 #1's how can anyone not like this deal?

  • concerned jazz fan Park City, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 6:21 p.m.

    this trade is big gamble again, just like when we let Matthews go and gamble on Bell who is still struggling finding his shooting..I just hope this gamble made by Kevin will have a positive result.. I hate to see D-Will go but I think this trade will help both parties to "move on" after D-Will's name was drag on the departure of coach Sloan, which I think that rumor is proven true because of this trade..I'm still optimistic about our chances making the playoffs, if we ended in 8th place, that will be nice match up against the Spurs, Harris versus Parker, that will be fun to watch!

  • ohplease springfield, il
    Feb. 23, 2011 6:06 p.m.

    In his interview, Deron was much more gracious and thankful to the fans of Utah than they have been to him. That is the essence of the man that JazzNation has scapegoated and thrown under the bus.

  • kman2max Provo, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 5:37 p.m.

    Anyway we could have included Boris Diaw in the deal as well?

  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Feb. 23, 2011 5:35 p.m.

    @ bugoff ,i really dont want to lose millsap he seems to have a clutch gene in him i remember he beat boise state in college with a jordan fade from three and he seems to step up in big games in the playoffs but as far as moving cj miles and Ak feel free.. try to get cris kaman somehow would be nice.. and a sg fo sho..

  • justme Fairview, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 5:26 p.m.

    Wow, it will be very interesting to see how things work out now. Can the the team win with all these changes? Who knows? Good team chemistry is so essential at this level and it usually takes a lot of time to get everything right. As I said, it will be fascinating to see how it all plays out. It is too bad all these changes had to happen now instead of in the off season.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 5:25 p.m.

    I like the move, it seems to be a smart move, DWill is good but he was showing signs of having an attitude problem and wasn't the leader we needed him to be.
    We have alot of young talent to go forward with, Favors could be a stud, Hayward is very talented, Evans has potential but I think he will need to prove he can play the 3 spot. CJ is still young and KOC still thinks of him as a player that is one of the core players for the future. He now has to step up and become more of a leader and a go to guy on this team, it may take some time, let's hope he can and will.
    The two possible lottery pick could end up adding talent to this team, so the future looks good.
    I wish they could move AK before the deadline and get a talented 3 or a center & possibly draft picks and then sign AK next year for half what he is making now.

  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Feb. 23, 2011 5:23 p.m.

    i hear the media talking about the value of a superstar and how the superstar always wins in a trade but what i think they are missing is that our superstar is a point guard so remind me the last time a superstar won a championship as the clear cut best player on his team.. neeeeever..and i only have to say clear cut bc of magic jhonson but we all know he had 2 other all stars with him.. so other then magic there are none..

  • ImaUteFan West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 5:11 p.m.

    OK, Zoobies, I think it's time you faced reality and realized this is NOT about your boy Jimmer. This is about the Jazz not about the Y. Wake up and realize that Jimmer is not going to "save" the Jazz franchise. Get real for once.

  • Richie Saint George, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 4:56 p.m.

    I must apologize to Jazz Management. They have shown that the inmates don't get to run the prison. Lets cut Corbin and the new people a little slack. The team wasn't going anywhere as it was.

  • carabaoU Moab, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 4:48 p.m.

    RE: ohplease | 3:56 p.m. Feb. 23, 2011
    Springfield, Il

    Stockton, Malone, Sloan = 2 straight NBA championship games (losing to Jordan's Bulls).

    DWill = 0 NBA championship games.

    Your logic is illogical. I would much rather have old-school than DWill DWon't.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 4:40 p.m.

    Deron was a great player but when Boozer left Deron's number was up. He promised to make Jefferson and allstar but has not been able to teach him the pick and roll yet.

    Lately he played like he had already given up, that might not be the case but he could never hold his head up in Utah again after he and Sloan had a BIG fight and 90 minutes later Jerry resigned.

    Hopefully Deron you can find some peace at your new team and your career will continue to grow for you but chance are...it won't

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Feb. 23, 2011 4:31 p.m.

    This move saved money (9 Mill). The key question is does the Jazz really need a max salary PG?

    It has always been the most important position in the Sloan system but DWill could shoot not just pass and run a team.

    This gives Harris a chance to step up and regain his DAL form. But if the Jazz have Favors and AJ at the PF positions (the current Sloan flex has 2 PFs and 2 wings). Do the Jazz really need a scoring PG?

    They appear to need wings who can shoot. That and the defense are the next obvious moves.

    How fast will KOC/Miller adjust AK/Bell/CJ/Hayward? AK/Hayward rebound. CJ shoots. Bell is a generalist like AK (both are a bit old).

    None of them are ideal.

    Sometimes the Jazz do run a more traditional look with a true C. Do they want to try to get one and change the dominant approach? If they do then they need even more outside shooting.

    The Jazz will rebuild the team to fit Corbin/KOCs vision of what it is supposed to be.

    I do not think Miller will put up with over paying to lose.

  • CougarKeith Roy, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 4:22 p.m.

    Well??? Good for the Jazz, CLEAR THE AIR sort of speak and get 2 Number 1's and some cash and players! He makes to much money anyway!

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Feb. 23, 2011 4:20 p.m.


    I am not sure they are even through trading. AK or Millsap could go before tomorrow. Millsap is expendable in a rebuilding year with Favors coming on board. Millsap has a cheap desirable contract so Utah should keep him but who knows what will be offered.

    AK still has value both as a player and as an expiring contract. He may get dumped for salary purposes and then come back next year?

    Millers saved 9 mill on the DWill trade. It was a salary dump as much as a building move. 3 mill in cash, 3 mill in salary and 3 mill in lux tax. Smart economic move.

    Greg/KOC are now going to build a team they really want. Sloan is no longer calling the shots.

    Favors is the PF of the future and AJ is a decent C/PF. If Millsap goes they get a bigger C for him. If AK goes they get an SF/SG.

    They get younger and cheaper. That has to happen under the new CBA. However, Millsap is reasonable and AK will be next year.

    They may even trade AK/Millsap for picks and salary dump.

  • Hondo Springville, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 4:19 p.m.

    I think that this clears the way for Jimmer to play on the Jazz. He'd be a great fit in several respects. First of all, the fans would be familiar with his game (many of the fans are already rooting for him). Second, he can let it rain and the Jazz need a long range sharp shooter (that hasn't been in place since Korver left). Third, he's going to be a star. Fourth, who doesn't want to get Jimmer-fied?

  • Old Scarecrow Brigham City, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 4:11 p.m.

    Come on, ohplease in Illinois. I've seen how the fans in other cities turn negative against their former heroes when they leave. Deron is a good guy as NBA players go, and he gave it his best shot in Utah, and bought into Sloan's way for several years. But the Jazz couldn't get enough of the right players to get it done. Not Deron's fault. The article said that "nobody saw this coming!" Not true. With Deron being the only really valuable asset the Jazz had, AND he being free to leave in another year or so, leaving the Jazz empty-handed, AND with New Jersey having struck out again in free agency and they had all that cap room, etc., this was an opportunity that O'Connor couldn't have missed. This deal was almost certainly put together in the last couple of days. A solid move by the Jazz where business sense finally overcame the team's intrinsic sense of loyalty. And Coog fans, Jimmer isn't the answer. It's be really fun to have Fredette on the Jazz, but be realistic.

  • gazelle Murray, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 4:07 p.m.

    Re: Ohplease


  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 4:02 p.m.

    oh please:
    you have enough to worry about with Rahm and o coming from Illinois. Do us a favor and worry about your own problems and leave the Jazz alone. Glad you are a nets fan.

  • cheerblue88 Sandy, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 4:00 p.m.

    Sorry ohplease, but regardless you were leaving as a fan. You are from Illinois and a DWill fan - not a Jazz fan. I loved DWill and at times thought he was better than Stockton - but the last few months he has seemed like he didn't really care. A change of scenery should be good for him. Hopefully we start playing with heart again.

  • ohplease springfield, il
    Feb. 23, 2011 3:56 p.m.

    Bye, y'all! This ex-Jazz fan is now heading to the Nets' message boards where the fans are very excited to have landed DWill.

    Sloan, Stockton, Malone. 23 years, 0 rings. Sloan: 23 years, never COY.

    Jazz chances of making playoffs this year: 0%

  • cactusflats American Fork, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 3:50 p.m.

    With the tenth pick in the 2011 NBA Draft, the Utah Jazz select James T. Fredette from Brigham Young University.

    With the 34th pick in the 2011 NBA Draft, the Utah Jazz select Jackson Emery from Brigham Young University.

    Get Cougar fans in those seats!

    The Jazz won't win much, but they will be interesting.

  • Mike W Syracuse, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 3:44 p.m.

    Great move by the Jazz... home run! Williams couldn't get this team past LA or the Spurs, and we've been regressing for 3 years with his great "leadership" in the locker room. We get a PG who is cheaper and nearly as good, a GREAT potential player in 19 year old Favors, and not one, but TWO lottery picks (2011 for sure, 2012 probably).

    Williams wasn't coming back, Jazz didn't wait, and got a king's ransom from New Jersey who was desperate after the Anthony move to NY. Good luck Deron with that supporting cast!

  • jazzfan40 Layton, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 3:42 p.m.

    A typical small market approach. Running for cover as opposed to building a championship team. The Jazz are done for this season. Hopefully this will pan out in the future. Its tough/frustrating to be a Jazz fan sometimes.

    Good luck D-Will!!!!

  • klepsydra Longmont, CO
    Feb. 23, 2011 3:37 p.m.

    I like Deron, he'll make good things happen in NJ. However, this was a good move by the Jazz front office. The team did not have the assets to get the roster to compete for a championship. This move will give them a very strong core in 3-4 years. They could have a team made up of 5-6 lottery picks, which will be a substantial talent upgrade over our current roster.

    Ship AK, then resign him as a free agent for much less money. Send him on a 3-4 month vacation to somewhere warm.

    Okur is available, but I don't think there is much of a market for him with his injuries. Utah is probably better off hanging on to him.

  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Feb. 23, 2011 3:32 p.m.

    @ohplease ..i met derron williams in idaho for a preseason open practices and had front row seats and was able to go onto the court afterwards with all the larry miller employes and derron williams was by far the most conceted person i have witnessed .. my friend asked him if i could get a picture with him and he blew it off with some rude gesture.. and there were only about 5 people who were even trying to get his autograph so its not like he was overwelmed... sorry dude all you do is put a ball in a hole and thats the only thing you can do .. so i dont want to hear about what a great chairitable guy he was .. he thought he was much better then he really was and knew he could never lift this franchise the way stockton did as a leader..so like lequit james he is going to a future superteam...so he doesnt have to carry a team

  • Sokol Las Vegas, NM
    Feb. 23, 2011 3:31 p.m.

    Jimmer = Adam Morrison the 2nd.

    I wonder if Corbin knew anything about this? So, if they got rid of Williams and Sloan is still gone;then I believe Utah Jazz sportswriters have not gotten to the bottom of Sloan's departure. They could have told him to wait until they were finished trading Williams. Am I right?

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    Feb. 23, 2011 3:29 p.m.

    Nice maneuver. The "cancer" is gone. Miles has to go also. I hear that will be done tomorrow with AK. Sad but true. Had to be done for Corbin to control the clubhouse. Go Jazz!

  • Hondo Springville, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 3:26 p.m.

    When we look back at the sports stories from this year Jimmer will be a much bigger story than the loss of DWill and Jerry Sloan.

    I think everyone will want to get Jimmer-fied again and again and very few people will remember this trade.

  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Feb. 23, 2011 3:24 p.m.

    @ Bugoff this will be a very fast rebuild .. tell me the last time we had an athlete like favors... why do you think Evans gets playing time ... its by default .. he is the only athlete on the team with a 7 ft wingspan..now we have favors who is a shotblocker 7ft wingspan athlete.. we can pick up a shooting guard next year (nick young)maybe. and make moves with picks and cap space we are accually going to get better waaaaaay faster by trading dwill then by keeping him .. we cant attract free agents so we have to build thru the draft..
    not by making the 1st rd of the playoffs and losing and getting krik snyders and pavlovics in the draft.

  • gazelle Murray, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 3:17 p.m.

    Re: ohplease Who cares what others think? There is not even 200 comments on this board. There are millions of people in Utah. Why would you stop being a fan of something because of what a few of us say? You would only being selling yourself short of something that you loved right? Not good for you my friend.

    You are right though lets both look in the mirror.

  • Sokol Las Vegas, NM
    Feb. 23, 2011 3:17 p.m.

    They needed to change this team...but what is their fascination with that 'always injured' Kirilenko..and that other Euro stiff Okur?

  • fan29 Orem, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 3:08 p.m.

    Jazz just became the leading contender to win the CBA Title. That's the only Title you will see in Utah

  • ohplease springfield, il
    Feb. 23, 2011 2:49 p.m.

    After reading all the nasty comments, I'm glad Deron is rid of all you ungrateful, fairweather friends. Let me see, how many titles did the Jazz win under 23 years of the great Jerry Sloan (who QUIT on his team), Stockton and Malone? Zip, zero, zilch, nada, none!! Your losing ways are now guaranteed. I haven't read one single word about the charitable work Deron did in Utah through his Point of Hope Foundation. Deron is a caring, giving person, a better person than most of you can ever hope to be. I am disgusted by the Jazz so-called fanbase, and I am no longer a Jazz fan. The Jazz are now guaranteed continued mediocrity. Enjoy Harris and Favors. It's just a typical pathetic non-impact Jazz trade.

    I am now a New Jersey Nets fan. Good riddance to the Jazz. And if you people want to know what a bad attitude is, just look in you mirrors. Your reflection will reveal to you the epitome of a bad attitude and, moreover, you will see what a real loser looks like.

  • jdaliix Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 2:38 p.m.

    Plyxply - Cousins? Are you paying attention? And those of you who think the Jazz're getting nothing? What universe do you occupy, seriously? I'm totally confused at how any of you can turn this into anything but the best move the Jazz have made in a long time. D-Will's a legit superstar, and he'll thrive in NJ, and we (those of us who can think) wish him the best, but one superstar point guard isn't gonna get it done. This team just got a LOT better.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Feb. 23, 2011 2:30 p.m.

    All you DWill haters need to get used to losing and quit whinning about it.

    DWill was the best player on this team AND he played hurt.

    The National News Media dreamed up a big controversy and blamed DWill for Sloan quiting. Which DWill (nor any other player) could not do.

    Knot headed so called Jazz fans fanned the flames.

    The National News Media got what they wanted. They moved DWill to a big market.

    Quit whinning about not being able to get stars. When you get one you run them out of town.

    This trade does not make the Jazz better today.

    However, Favors MAY be the PF of the future (time will tell). Harris is a decent PG but lacks the scoring capability of DWill.

    The Jazz saved 7-8 Mill in salary and Lux tax and are positioned to make additional changes under the new CBA. They are in full blown rebuild mold right now.

    IF they were bold they might try to trade AK and picks for Wallace. But dropping lux tax is probably more important and the picks may be more valuable in the long run.

    The team will be rebuilt around AJ/Favors.

  • gazelle Murray, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 2:06 p.m.

    Downgrade? The Jazz had a good team! Period. Deron quit on this team during the summer. Pathetic too because the Jazz had a good playoff spot before this finally came to a head. I wonder if he will ever realize what he let go. I mean what a selfish player he was.

  • get'er done Layton, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 2:04 p.m.

    Jimmer could replace D in a New York heart beat... Jimmer is smarter, a better shooter and has a better attitude and attitude is everything. Plus he's not into himself. Win-win

  • Jonathan Eddy Payson, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 1:57 p.m.

    Attitude can transform good players into a great ones.

    Conversely, attitude can also turn a great player into one that misses the mark.

    Remember the attitude of Stockton and Malone.

    Remember the attitude of Deron Williams.

    This trade was a no brainer.

    Attitude is EVERYTHING.

  • JazzMan Centerville, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 1:56 p.m.

    I love DWill I thought he was a great player for the Jazz (most of the time). Now I have 4 DWill No8 jerseys/t-shirts headed to chairty I guess.

    I think this is a good move for the Jazz going forward, lots of flexibility and prospects for the future. So we can raise up some more young prospects to get into the prime of the careers and head to one of the big markets. In the meantime we can enjoy the young talent.

  • get'er done Layton, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 1:56 p.m.

    i hope he gets mugged in the big city, he"ll for sure get lost and wont be the big guy in town.

  • Two Cents Springville, Utah
    Feb. 23, 2011 1:48 p.m.

    I feel bad for Ty Corbin right about now...

  • Al Bundy murray, ut
    Feb. 23, 2011 1:45 p.m.

    Jimmer will not be anywhere near D-Will's level!
    Those comments are just dumb!

  • Dixie Dan Saint George, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 1:45 p.m.

    It was very unlikely that the Jazz could re-sign D-Will in 2012. This way they may get a lottery pick at the end of this season. Could this be their attempt to position themselves for a shot at drafting Jimmer? For that matter, is Jimmer worth a lottery draft choice?

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 1:44 p.m.

    The biggest question now has to bewhere are the points going to come from? Who will be the shooters? CJ? Bell has not been great at shooting. I hope the Jazz can swing a deal to bring in a shooter. I like the trade, but we need someone to create and be able to space the floor and knock down open jumpers.

  • DC Fan Layton, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 1:33 p.m.

    Sooo sweet, gotta love it baby... loser like boozer and it'll make the Jazz a much better team, (team, not glory hog). These athletes are sooooo expendable and I love when they finally get the boot. They are no better the Hollywood movie stars, all about themselves. He'd be pumping gas if it werent for basketball and he had to blow it.. so old story, just different day couldn't be happier.

  • JK Regina, Saskatchewan
    Feb. 23, 2011 1:32 p.m.

    i hear alot about trading okur....who in the world would want him...he's damaged goods...

    what was the one suggestion ..price and okur to the clippers for Kamen....yeah right...even the clippers arent that dumb..

  • Al Bundy murray, ut
    Feb. 23, 2011 1:29 p.m.

    Enough with the good ridance blogs

    Quit saying D-Will is overrated! All NBA last year-All Star- NBA player of the month! Olymic gold medal winner! How many gold medals do you naysayers have? NONE! THAT"S WHAT I THOUGHT! It's not D- Will's fault that the Jazz downgraded the roster. I will say all our old players seem to be doing well in Chicago! No Memo hurts as well.

  • Where do eggs come from Sandy, Ut
    Feb. 23, 2011 1:26 p.m.

    Great job KOC & GM. You really know where eggs come from!

  • JK Regina, Saskatchewan
    Feb. 23, 2011 1:19 p.m.

    to Great Houdini...

    thats just the problem with the deal...the center piece of the deal is the word "potential" and you should get more than that when giving up one of the best 3 point guards in the game...

  • bluedevil Greensboro, NC
    Feb. 23, 2011 1:16 p.m.

    As bad as next year's draft class is, with the nets' pick, which more than likely would be in top 5, we could get a hell of a player in kyrie irving or if lucky jared sullinger. on top of that, with our very own pick we can always get our very own jimmer nation.

  • ET Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    Feb. 23, 2011 1:14 p.m.

    Good luck DWill. You will be missed!

  • Steve Jensen Herriman, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 1:09 p.m.

    That's too bad, I was hoping that he would have stayed and the Jazz use the money from AK's & Memo's ending contracts to bring in another All-Star to play with D-Will, Millsap & Big Al. I don't like the trade, but Deron mostly like would have left at the end of next year, which would leave us with nothing. At lest we got 'something' for him. I just wonder If the Jazz can attract another All-Star Free Agent to come here at the end of this season or the next......

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Feb. 23, 2011 1:08 p.m.

    The new Star of the Utah Jazz: CJ Miles

    25 points a game with Dwill and his ball-hogging out of the way!!

  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    Feb. 23, 2011 1:06 p.m.

    This trade has the potential to be the best trade ever by the Jazz.For Williams we received the whole package offered to Denver,difference is Denver would have given up Carmelo,Billups,S Williams,Harrington and or Carter.WE got it all by just giving up Williams!I think the Nets panicked when they lost out on Anthony,and thought" man,we better get somebody",Chuck Nunn,Todd,Kakashi,your thoughts?

  • seattsma Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 23, 2011 1:01 p.m.

    What is the Utah Jazz management thinking. They need to fire Kevin O'Connor. KOC is the cancer to the Utah Jazz.

  • Black & White SLC, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 12:56 p.m.

    You all know we're going to miss poor D-Will, right?

    Yeah, like a blister on the bottom of my foot!

    Or like a LOT of other players we wish we would have kept or signed over the years, you know who I'm talking about...
    Gordon whats-his-name
    Something Seikly
    Um that one Russian guy
    Oh, and that really good player from Duke U.
    And don't forget, Danny Ainge!

    Yeah, we're going to miss D-Will alright...(LOL)

    My suggestion:
    Now that the Jazz just went younger, they are going to need some training from the BEST ever. So, KOC go to work and earn some of those big bucks you've been raking in over the years and hire Sloan as a "Consultant/Talent Scout", Karl Malone as an Asst. Coach for "Post Players & Physical Fittness", and John Stockton as a Asst. Coach for "PG's and Game/Pressure Management". Coupled with Jeff Hornacek ("Shooting Guards"), Scott Layden ("Play Making") and Head Coach Tyrone Corbin--that's would be a WINNING Coaching Staff that I would gladly pay to see working on the sidelines!!

    Trust me, D-Will is going to miss Utah!

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Feb. 23, 2011 12:55 p.m.

    Sell the JAZZ. The NBA has become the prima-donna league. The Jazz doens't have the philosophy that will cater to players calling the shots, nor should they. The Leauge is starting to spin out of control, it's not fun anymore.

  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Feb. 23, 2011 12:48 p.m.

    @ me myself and i... ?? .. we needed to trade deron even if he wasnt going to leave in two years ..our team looks like a nbdl after the top 5.. we needed depth and more talent... deron is overated at the position of the most depth..you wanted to keep stevenson ..wow what a genius lol... i called for us to draft tony parker over raul lopez after i watched him toy and torch the highly recruted baron davis in a high school vs. the world game... top that one... i called for josh smith over kirk snyder and kris humphris..top that one i called for monte ellis over cj miles ... i called for josh howard over pavlovic...and your talking about deshawn stevenson lol...

  • Chris_B Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 12:44 p.m.

    Move over D-Will. It's Jimmertime!!

  • Big 'D' San Mateo, CA
    Feb. 23, 2011 12:40 p.m.

    It seems like this move will only serve to dissolve whatever bonds of loyalty exist between the franchise and the rest of the players on the team. They'll all feel like the betrayal could come at any time, so just look out for #1 instead of for each other and the team and community.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Feb. 23, 2011 12:39 p.m.

    There is more to come. The KOC/Miller are remaking the team with cost effective players. Harris and Millsap are about 8 Mill. Favors is 4.

    In the process they may also make it better and deeper in the longer run.

    AK and OKUR still represent 27 Mill and that will be used as the new CBA becomes clear.

    KOC will build this team from the ground up to fit his own and Corbin's ideas on how to run the team.

    It is the true end of the Sloan era.

    Sloan is not coming back. DWill is gone. The Jazz are in full rebuilding mold for the next 2 years.

    If they miss the playoffs they get to keep this years 1st round pick.

    The new CBA will make draft picks much more valuable and expensive Vets less valuable.

    Corbin has already moved away from most of the flex as it was not working. He is running stuff that AJ can run.

    Fix the outside shooting and D next. Then work on a good back up C.

    Todd you got your wish and there is more to come.

  • bluedevil Greensboro, NC
    Feb. 23, 2011 12:36 p.m.

    This Prokhorov guy is really scary/sly/true businessman (pick any of the three). Everyone was talking bout Carmelo and Nets getting Butler from Mavs. Did anyone have even slightest idea that Deron could be traded? to Nets? Man!

    Honestly, I think we could have gotten much more than this. Or is Prokhorov investing in auto dealership in Utah in a separate deal?

    Or maybe Jazz administration were so fed up with him and decided to teach him a lesson and dump him to New Jersey (in a true SNL fashion)

  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Feb. 23, 2011 12:34 p.m.

    too bad we didnt get anthony marrow in this deal would have really given us an amazing deal...and a much needed shooter..

  • Big 'D' San Mateo, CA
    Feb. 23, 2011 12:32 p.m.

    Everybody's got it all wrong, thinking this trade is to get rid of the bad guy who ran Sloan out of town. Pale Bear and Anonigma got it right-- Sloan got wind of the impending trade and had no desire to start all over rebuilding with a bunch of new players. He is a 'foxhole' guy, and when KOC said we're getting rid of your #1 comrade, after being unable/unwilling to pay to keep Matthews, Boozer, Korver, Brewer-- Sloan said I've had enough. Maybe D-Will and Sloan butted heads, but they both competed and wanted to win and cared about the team AND the community! For KOC to ship off the PG that Sloan had groomed into an All-Star was more than Sloan could take. I will miss D-Will a lot. I already miss Sloan a lot. I hope the Jazz can remain competitive.

  • JazzRule Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 12:31 p.m.

    I have to say that initially, I was surprised by this trade, but OHHHH boy am I excited by it.

    A few things to consider:

    -The likelihood that Williams was going to stay after next season was VERY low!

    -Did we really want to go through what Denver did this year?

    -Williams really didn't want to be here any longer.

    I have enjoyed watching Deron play and think he is a great talent, but we got some great things in return.

    This years Nets first round pick, next years first round pick from Golden State. A solid PG that will probably start in front of Watson and a very promising young forward in Favors.

    Go to youtube and search Derrick Favors dunk. He is so athletic and at 6 '10 WOOT. It's like Shawn Kemp reborn.

    Im excited!

  • gazelle Murray, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 12:31 p.m.

    I support this trade 100 percent. Deron was the problem. As a fan I did not support him for many reasons. He had a posse that passed to eachother , avoided passing to others. Maybe now Hayward will get a fair shot. I look for CJ's shots to go way down as well. And that is a good thing. Maybe everyone will start playing some team ball again.

    I wonder, now that the Jazz don't have a player complaining to the officials every single play of the game will they actually start getting some calls?

  • Jazzsmack Holladay, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 12:31 p.m.

    I can say I called this one a year ago in these forums.

    Long before dwill sign his new contract, I told everyone here dwill would not be here long, that he did not want to be here.


    Jazz need to rebuild for a new system, for new coaches.

    The slaon system, the sloan players, are a_thing of the past.

    The jazz must move on,

    they now will have a_glut of PFs.

    look_for another trade to boost the 2 an possibly the 3.

    and possibly a trade involving AK and okur.

    if not, the jazz will take_ak at a_much lower price,
    or let him go probably to new jersey,

    while they use the_money to sign a better 2, 3, and/or 5.

    who knows, with dwill gone they might try to move up and get jimmer fredette.

    lots of_possibilities now that sloan is gone.

    and unlike many here I belive the Jazz are poised now to become great team,

    and NOT just a_team with a great or very_good pg and pf and a system to get the _most out of_that.

    The future is bright, and_many wanted the_jazz to moveup and draft favors.

  • Me, Myself and I Blanding, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 12:29 p.m.

    A lot of "wisdom" from a guy who's screen name is taken from a 3rd string PG who never made it in the NBA. I bet jcrotty 25 thinks if Crotty still played he'd be the best PG in the league. If things in the Jazz organization were still as peachy as they were up until this year he would still be using his dwilliams 8 screen name. Like most fair weather Jazz fans and I think they make up the majority of Jazz fans jcrotty 25 is willing to throw anyone under the bus and when things don't get better he and others like him will throw someone else under the bus. To all of you calling Deron out over complaining about his job or co-workers I say try doing the same at your own jobs before offering it as advice to someone else.

    PS I quit supporting the Jazz when Kevin O'Connor made one of his first bone head mistakes and traded a young and improving DeShon Stevenson for an old slow washed up eurpean league cast off Gordon Gericek...I have no NBA team so I consider myself pretty objective.

  • Sports Nutz Smithfield, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 12:22 p.m.

    Great move by the Jazz. Williams was as good as gone after next year so why not get something for him while they can? Harris will do very well in this system and Favors could be great down the road. They are not done dealing though so who is next...........

  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Feb. 23, 2011 12:20 p.m.

    hopfully we get doc rivers kid with one of our 1st rounders.. austin rivers in 2012 baby!!!

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Feb. 23, 2011 12:15 p.m.

    I like Favors as a 3rd big. Harris is not Williams but he is pretty good and probably good enough if the Jazz can get some help at SG.

    What happened on the money? Favors/Harris is about 12 mill. DWill is 15.

    The draft picks help if they are used wisely.

  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Feb. 23, 2011 12:14 p.m.

    we got picks we got cap room next year ... this is exciting again ..

  • CRB Woods Cross, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 12:13 p.m.

    How can you possibly fault Williams? He is on a team where he has been the only legitimate NBA starter since he was drafted but the NBA bench players that start with him are blowing up the bank with starter salaries. What you say, let me count the ways? Milsap is at best a 6th man and good but not a full year player at 4 and can't cover the 3 so he has no position and gets beat down for a full season. Okur is the best 7 foot 2 guard in the league but is too slow and soft to play the center or 4 position. Corver was a benchie and continues to be with Chicago. Boozer is half a legitimate starter but not on defense and always needed a defensive stopper to play with but never had one. Jefferson is a nice back up center or power forward. AK has been a 6th an type his whole career. Please don't insult the Jazz fan's intelligence with this line up and then be shocked when Williams wants out. This is management's issue all the way. The Jazz are an NBA farm team right now.

  • JK Regina, Saskatchewan
    Feb. 23, 2011 12:09 p.m.

    to jcrotty...

    depth is a deep bench..when the starting 5 isn't very good you don't really have depth...

    and if harris is a trade chip what are you really going to get in return...he's alittle above average

    and our identity is "getting affordable good young talent"...sounds like a subpar identity.

    and you making the point that he's overrated is exactly my point....everyone thinks he's great and we just DID NOT get fair value....if dwill was a free agent this year then i would understand the need to move him before the deadline...
    all the sports sites i am reading seems to say the nets really didn't have to give up that much...

    i am now reading that the phones are ringing off the hook regarding milsap and Jefferson...

  • deno22 Rexburg, ID
    Feb. 23, 2011 12:06 p.m.

    We may not keep those draft picks, and the fact we got two players for one means we can still move someone. I still hope they try for a shooter, but I really don't want to see Millsap go...so that leaves jefferson. I wonder if they are done dealing, should be interesting the next 24 hours.

  • Anonymous Infinity American Fork, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:57 a.m.

    Deron Williams has been gone since his arguments with Coach Sloan and his less than team unity attitude from the beginning. I thought he might be going to either New York or Dallas before his contract ran out. I for one am glad he is gone; as in don't let the door hit you in the behind as you leave. For me, he must have had personal problems apart with his alienating himself from teammates and management. I don't wish him any bad luck in the future, but it was time he was moved; he wanted it, and he got his wish. I like what the Jazz received for him. I don't think the team could have done much better. The way things stand, the Jazz will be lucky to make the playoffs in terms of who is ahead of them, even if Deron remained. Kevin O'Connor knew this, and so did the coaches and management. The time to pull the trigger on the deal they just consumated was timely and right. Thank you KOC; you did the right thing at the right time. Boozer and Williams were not in the right place.

    Go Jazz.

  • Jimmer4pres Syracuse, Utah
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:52 a.m.

    This is the best move the jazz have made. Get rid of that pre madonna d-will and get some players who will actually play and work as a team. Devin Harris is every bit as good as D-wil and will be great plus we now have more depth at the power forward position with derrick favors. The 2 first round draft picks will be nice too seeing how were going to get jimmer and jared sullinger

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:51 a.m.

    What everyone needs to realize is that nobody was forcing the Jazz to make a deal, this is not like Crymelo at all. This deal was too good to pass up. Getting a one time Allstar in Harris and a 3rd over all pick in Favors and a first round 2011 pick and first round 2012 pick, are you kidding me, we made out like bandits!

    Great move, GO JAZZ!

  • President Joker Washington DC, MD
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:50 a.m.

    Just don't blow the draft pick on Jimmer whatever you do. He is not a top 3 player and if we are drafting top 3 he shouldn't be considered. But if it was like 14 then he might be a good pickup. But the guy will be JJ Reddick at best. Mybe a little better.

  • jazzfan86 American Fork, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:49 a.m.

    KOC doesn't have confidence in his own ability to bring in stars to build around D-Will. If the man with a vision for this team isn't able to build around a future hall of fame player he needs to go! Fire KOC!!!!! PLEASE

  • drodlibra salt lake city, utah
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:44 a.m.

    the fault should not go to d will, read the press conference, d will occonar, sloan they all say it wasnt the fight that made him quit, come on give jerry more credit than that..that happens every coach will tell you that. this all boils down to wanting rings d will knows occonar trades all our assets and rebuilds i think it gets him off to see us hopefull and than shoot us down to the ground. d will was not happy here i dont blame him im not happy either but im loyal to the jazz him not so much stockton was, any way occonar im sure you need to learn your lesson i am threatening you with a strike im sure i can convince the jazz nation too we want rings, so we want progress or you shall feel our pain!!

  • Anonigma Murray, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:36 a.m.

    Maybe this is the real reason why Sloan left???

  • drodlibra salt lake city, utah
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:35 a.m.

    i just want u to fathom this one little idea,lineup is mathews,boozer,brewer,dwill,big al. do you realize the potential in this line up here.but once again o connar has a nack for rebuilding and being a tight wad. we had opportunity knocking.now with sloan gone who in my opinion is a major reason for most our accomplishments, i mean he made no names into stars not many can do that not even the great phil he had kobe and jordan i can get 11 rings coaching them.sloan got fed up with conners lack of vision and quite frank jazz nation is too. we deserve a ship more than anybody, were loyal to our cause best fans hands down.d will is who he is cause of sloan, and stockton as his mentor or else hed be ok at best, open your eyes we want rings now or you out of utah. were fed up with these ill advised trades.just make sure ty doesnt go changing the system jerry has worked so hard to master,no more or we will form a strike i promise you,STRIKE!

  • BlameItOnTheOfficials Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:30 a.m.

    Good Job done by KOC!! Williams has created problems for the Jazz since joining the club. Yes, he's a great player/AllStar.. but he wasn't going to stay here for the long term. It's a good move to unload him now and get some good picks rather than try negotiating with him to keep him when he's unhappy.

    Jerry Sloan is smiling this afternoon.

  • Sytra99 Cedar Hills, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:29 a.m.

    Kevin O'Connor and Greg Miller are borderline humorous in their mismanagement of this organization.

    I am not saying Groutch Williams did not need to be traded for he certainly did. But what we got in exchange for an all-star point is ridiculous.

    Devin Harris is always injured. If you thought Boozer was bad, you have no idea what's in store. Harris will sit out with a paper cut.

    Derrick Favors has enormous potential, but I have been unimpressed with him since his college days. It is possible to be athletic without being talented, and Favors only adds another log to the jam at PF and center.

    And I sure hope these are future draft picks as this is the most shallow draft in years.

    All in all, this is a poor trade to say the very least. I can not imagine this team being competitive until some serious changes are brought forth in the Jazz's front offices.

  • FredEx Salt Lake, Ut
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:28 a.m.

    Who is Deron Williams?

  • Jim987 West Jordan, Utah
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:26 a.m.

    I am little sad...However,
    I don't thik Deron would have stuck around after the fans became disaffectionate with him, after the whole Sloan incedent.
    But seriously, Favors and Harris??? What about a center??? We got 3 Power forwards (if Favors is a PF- as reported.)Okur is done for, Elson can't handle the ball very well, Fes is too slow. We need an all-star center. KOC- you should have tried to get Lopez.

  • BD Dallas, TX
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:24 a.m.

    Going to the game tonight with my son (who is currently wearing his #8 Williams jersey at preschool). Between the trade and injuries, are the Jazz going to be able to field a team against the Mavs? In any event, I think this is a great trade for the Jazz. Harris is more than serviceable, Favors has great upside, and they could have two lottery picks each of the next two years. The most we would have had with Deron is a first round exit this year, and he would have walked after next, but now we actually get some value to build upon. It may be a painful couple of years, but it would have been more painful for the organization had Williams left in 2012 and the Jazz received nothing for him.

  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:22 a.m.

    next move is trading memhet okur if possible... trade him and a first for cris kamen ...

  • AFCoug Colorado Springs, CO
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:20 a.m.

    This is a good move for the Jazz. They get taller and more skilled in the post. Milsap, Jefferson, Favors, and Okur make a very deep front line. 2 are 6'10 and Okur is 6'11. Now we compete with the lakers at this level.

    As for PG I have always liked Harris. He was solid in Dallas and NJ but had nothing to work with in NJ. Remember Kidd was lost in that abyss as well and nobody doubted how good he was in his prime. I believe Harris will score nearly as much as D-Will but maybe not have that take over the game mentality D-Will sometimes showed. Big Al should step up in the middle though and I see his numbers on the rise. Milsap should start until next year and then be the depth off the bench with a healthy Okur.

    Draft picks should be good picks with both GS and NJ likley headed to the lottery for the forseeable future. If they could pair the two to get into the top 1-2 picks this year that would be even better.

    Good move Jazz

  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:19 a.m.

    our idenity is called depth dude!!! not only is harris capable but he is also a nice trade chip... many teams are interested in him... now our identity is called a big man who can play some defense in the future ... now our identity is using all those first round picks to build affordable good young talent around our exsisting good team..an honestly i dont even think if dwill was out this entire year that our record would be much different ... dude is ooooverated and once again there are pg's all over the place ..in the pro's in college and in high school..easiest position to replace .. bigs are the hardest .. the only thing holding up the carmelo deal was timothy mozgof lol avging 3 points per.. what does that tell you .. it tells me that defensive bigs that are athletic is somthing you can neeeever have to much of ...

  • Vince the boonies, mexico
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:18 a.m.

    Look up my comments last night, this is exactly what I said we should do and I am the happiest man in Utah "RIGHT NOW"! Don't underestimate Devon Harris fans he was drafted just 1 year before D-Will and has himself been an all-star. And to get Favors and these draft picks? I also once again do believe in Santa Claus! Super.

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:18 a.m.

    DeRon would have walked anyway...he is also a problem...now we have Harris, Favors and 2 first round picks... a no-brainer!

  • Motappin Sandy, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:16 a.m.


  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:16 a.m.

    The more I think about it the more I like this deal,especially after watching carmelo put the whole state of Colorado through the wringer all season long.Harris with a new start may surprize alot of fans,NJ`s pick this year and GS`s next year,lets just hope they both lose every game,GO JAZZ.KOC you may have just redeemed yourself

  • Capt. Smash Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:15 a.m.

    Now we need to try and get Sloan back!

  • 8plex Alpine, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:12 a.m.

    Sheez, relax. OConnor did what he had to do. Derron has demanded a trade and he is damaged goods. i repeat Derron is damaged. First, his hand is hurt and he is going to need surgery or maybe you haven't noticed his numbers lately. Second, his attitude needs an adjustment. Three, Derron will never live down that he was the main reason Sloan quite - thus people in the future would only love Derron if he could win - he can't and he would forever be the goat in Utah. Interestingly enough, if the Jazz do not win without Derron then Derron will continue to be the goat.
    It's too bad that Derron is hurt physically. He won't be the player he was and if he does come out and has been sandbagging then he will the most hated player of all time.

  • Capt. Smash Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:08 a.m.

    I am so happy get rid of the cancer! Good job Greg your dad would be proud! Go Jazz!

  • Sokol Las Vegas, NM
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:06 a.m.

    Big Al at least has a good attitude, tries hard and appreciates being here. I think he is a keeper. Williams might be poison...The JR Ryder or Latrell Sprewell of the Jazz. You should see how excited New Jersey is over Williams.

  • T_ville Fan West Valley City, ut
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:06 a.m.

    I love how everyone was hating on Williams for having something to do with Sloan leaving, but yet now that he is gone eveyone wants him back! I think this is a step in the right direction for the Jazz, Deron had a piss pour attitude and was planning on leaving anyway! Good trade for the Jazz!!!

  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:05 a.m.

    love this trade ppl if you dont then you know nothing ... we just got a kings randsome for a pg ... remember pg is the deepest position in the nba by faaaaaaaar now... and in college and especially in high school there are tons of studs comming up..favors is a question mark .. would rather have ekbe udoh.. but mabe its a good thing if favors never is that good and only plays good defense then we can afford to keep him and have all the components of a good team...i agree that a deal to houston for brooks and martin would have been tantalizing but overall with the two first rounders i like this trade bc harris is very nice if healthy and favors should at the very least be a force defensivly with ability to finish over bigs on dump offs.. it all comes down to those first round picks and if koc can finally make good picks..

  • Topher Herriman, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:05 a.m.

    Good, I am tired of the excuses and him trying to run the team.
    Have a nice time in New Jersey.

  • helpisontheway Boise, Id
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:04 a.m.

    Wow, Deron is a superstar gaurd with all the potential in the world. Instead of getting another superstar to go with him the Jazz trade their future away for hope and a prayer. Bad trade in my opinion, you need at least two to three superstars or great players in todays NBA and the Jazz just don't have the money to make the big deals needed to get to that level.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:03 a.m.

    Lots of mind readers in the Jazz fans. Now it has been established reading here that Deron was going to leave next season. Maybe or maybe not.

    Whatever it seems like the management is in charge once again. Hope they are making the right decisions as the fan base likes to win.

    this trade clears the way for coach Corbin to make inroads with the team, it hands the reins over to him and tells the team no team member is bigger than the coach.

    Now Corbin step up and make do with this group, the management has levelled the playing field and you are in charge. Theyears you spent with Sloan shoulhave taught you that team ball can be played and since you are now short on all-stars you had better coach team ball.

    I am really surpirsed at the atta go management spirit shown here. Very little support for Williams, seems the fans like loyalty.

    Is this the final trade for the Jazz this season?

  • JazzMan Centerville, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:02 a.m.

    Wow, that's a shock! I love DWill, I have three Dwill No8 Shirts and Jerseys.

    That said, it will be nice to avoid the DRAMA of next season's "will he go to the knicks" no sense, let the nets deal with that.

    I hope we can get some good players with the draft picks.

  • football43 Morgan, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:01 a.m.

    Is it too late to bring back Sloan? Unless Coach Corbin is truly a "Sloan Jr (as Locke calls him) we could sure use him to tie up all the loose ends we will have over the next few years.

  • mdp Bountiful, utah
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:01 a.m.

    Williams was great... last year when he actually ran Sloans offense, a thing of beauty. This year he has gotten full of himself and lazy- no defense and mediocre outside shooting, and playing more for his shot that running the team. I saw a loafing guard for the first half of games, then aggressive and mostly for himself in the last quarter.

  • fc0mdl OREM, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 11:00 a.m.

    A young man with a lot of talent, but a cancer for the team. Another example of a big ego, I am great and too good for you attitude. Glad to see him go.

  • Bigdude Twin Falls, ID
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:58 a.m.

    The Jazz now have 3 power forwards. I doubt they are done trading.

  • Samwise Provo, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:53 a.m.

    What years are the Nets' draft picks? Is one this year? If so the Jazz could have two lottery picks this year! (theirs and the Nets) Sadly, that is about the only positive thing I can say about this. I am nearly 100% positive that the Jazz will miss the playoffs this year. After Sloan retired, I was about 90% sure of this already, but now I don't see how they could do it this year. Maybe they will actually do a good job of rebuilding this time around? But glad the Jazz are getting something out of Deron leaving rather than him just going when his contract expires.

  • lakerhater Beaver, Ut
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:53 a.m.

    Now lets hope the jazz dont mess up with these first round draft pics like they have in the past.

    Draft Jimmer!!

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:51 a.m.

    Derons attitude and wrist have become two big problems.
    Jersey gets both an allstar and a coach in one package.
    Looks like there has to be a follow up trade because we do not need 4 power forwards. We still need a shooting guard and defensive minded center.

  • NT Springville, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:50 a.m.

    What is Utah's identity now?

  • Jeff29 Cedar City, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:49 a.m.

    If the Jazz had been more aggressive during the draft last year, they probably could have gotten Favors. With Favors, D-Will would probably be much more optimistic about the future in Utah.

  • Big Thunder Hurricane, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:49 a.m.

    The Jazz also get the nets 1st round pick this year and the Warriors 1st round pick next year. That is 4 first round picks in the next two years! I did the NBA draft lottery on ESPN 20 times and the Nets pick didn't go below 7th once. It hit 1st 3 times. That is at least something to look forward to.

  • Alterego Ogden, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:49 a.m.

    Didn't like having a team leader that threw basket balls at team mates during a game in order to express himself/lead(?).

    Was growing more and more dismayed with Williams for some time now.

    I like the move.

  • BigSportsFan!! ogden, ut
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:49 a.m.

    Great move. So long D-Will.

  • Veracity Morgan, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:47 a.m.

    From the weather report this morning, the skies will be dark, but as far as I am concerned...the sun will shine as bright has it ever has.

    It won't take long for DWill to sour in New York and he will be traded again within three years...you can take it to the bank.

    Great draft picks...now if KOC can only make them work rather than waste them again and again and again.

  • moodyblue77 Provo, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:47 a.m.

    Newsflash. When you dismantle a team completely, only one person could be in charge. His initials are G.M. Who didn't sign anybody last year? Who seems to have orchestrated Sloan's resignation and blamed D-Will for it?

    The owner is grabbing the team by the throat and strangling it. O'Connor will be next.

    The new collective bargaining agreement has teams unloading big salaries, hoping to pay less in the future. The Jazz are at the front of the line.

    A once proud organization is going down the drain.

  • Slushfund Roosevelt, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:46 a.m.

    "Chris B.
    This team was going nowhere. He knew it, management knew it."

    Kinda like the Utes???

  • Me, Myself and I Blanding, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:46 a.m.

    Just another bone headed move by the worst front office in the NBA. Jerry's influence on personnel decisions masked the fact that Kevin O'Connor and company were even worse than Isaiah Thomas and now Jazz assistant Scott Layden were in New York. This down hill slide started when the Jazz didn't even tender an offer to Wes Matthews who said he would have signed for a lot less than his current contract with Portland if the Jazz had just offered. Jazz fans are truly lucky Greg Miller promised the public to keep Milsap no matter what. Maybe Greg will step up again and fire O'Connor and hire Jerry as the new GM. Then maybe and only if O'Connor is gone will the Jazz improve personnel on a consistant basis.

  • chiefbrady Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:46 a.m.

    For all those haters out there, think about this; Jazz got rid of an attitude problem for the 3rd pick in the 2010 draft (Favors), more cash, a deeper bench, and draft picks for the future! I say great deal!!!

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:46 a.m.

    Without Boozer, Dwill could not win games in Utah. He is not a star on his own.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:45 a.m.

    Well, this has been a stellar year for the Jazz---NOT! Who would have guessed three weeks ago so many changes were about to take place; all that was apparent is that things just weren't working.

    Let's see if suddenly D-Will can hit a basket now that he's out of here.

    What a great year to have passed on buying season Jazz tickets.

  • J1232 Clifton, NJ
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:44 a.m.

    You dont win the NBA Championship without superstars, period. The Jazz now have none. I have been a Jazz fan for 20 years but I am happy DWill is now playing 10 minutes from my house. Those of you thinking he is going to fade into obscurity couldn't be more wrong, the Nets play 5 minutes from New York City, his endorsement deals will go through the roof.

  • TerryHaimes Sturgis, MS
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:43 a.m.

    Williams was the point Sloan dreamed of. He was my pick in the draft at the time. Problem is he wouldn't get his head straight, be the point and leader the team needed. I'm with management on this one. Don't think Harris is the answer but he, Price and Watson will serve very well until they can do better. Jazz will make playoffs and quite likely supprise a few people there.

  • mkSdd3 Ogden, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:43 a.m.

    We are for sure out of the playoffs with this trade. With all of the new players, and a new coach, the team will still be trying to find itself while all all the other teams will be clicking.

    Miller tried to keep his star player happy, which resulted in the coach leaving. Now he discovers that the star player was going to leave all along. Very poorly played by management and owners.

    This is one crazy and wild ride with all these changes.

    In the words of George Jettson, "... Let me off this crazy thing."

  • klepsydra Longmont, CO
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:41 a.m.

    Who is next to go??? I predict they move CJ (he was buddy buddy with DWill and has a small contract that should be easy to ship), and then likely move AJ next year. AK gets resigned for much less next year...

    So does Utah's long term future contain??
    PG - Fredette???
    SG - Other lottery 1st rounder
    SF - Hayward
    PF - Favors
    C - Tomic

  • rjpkp Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:39 a.m.

    Good trade for the Jazz. The fans who complain about management not making moves to improve the team are delusional. This is a great move by the Jazz. Kevin O'Connor does a great job of making things work in this small market. This makes me want to go to games again. I didn't want to go watch Deron pout all game and be a poison to this team. I wish him luck in Jersey...maybe you can make the playoffs next year!

  • Sokol Las Vegas, NM
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:39 a.m.

    Wow, never saw it coming...I am shocked and saddened by this, but somewhere around December, someone quit on the team or they knew Williams caused the rift. I also really believe Jazz management should see if Sloan will come back or Phil Johnson. Williams did not have much respect for arguably the greatest coach in NBA history....Would Russell have done that to Auerbach?

  • JK Regina, Saskatchewan
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:38 a.m.

    to bama fan...
    how is deron williams for devon harris basically a wash???? come on!!!!

    and derrick favors and his 6 point avg..???

    how is it that we can maybe salvage the season by getting rid of williams for these two guys!!!!

    that math doesn't add up....for now we have become a nice blend of the timberwolves and cavaliers!!!!!

  • steveinspfork Spanish Fork, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:38 a.m.

    I have changed my mind and opinion. Fresh faces = Playoffs. Go Jazz!!!!!!

  • livininSandy Sandy, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:34 a.m.

    Thw END of the JAZZ franchise is near. Prepare for no major league sports in town. [Real Salt Lake is not major league! The best soccer players in the world play in Europe].

    Some government body in Utah will have to purchase the ESA.

    Thanks Mr. O'Connor you have destroyed one of the best things in Utah.

  • JK Regina, Saskatchewan
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:34 a.m.

    devon harris...alittle above average
    favors....a question mark
    two first round picks....question mark

    we could have gotten felton a fabulous point guard and some shooting from the knicks....they could have held out for more talent...to much unknown in this trade.....like it or not....williams is one of the best 3 at his position in the league...and we got back a big ol' bunch of average for him...unbelieveable!!!!

  • 1984 for life Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:34 a.m.

    GREAT TRADE for the following reasons:

    1) D Will didn't want to be here. Was going to leave next summer anyway. That's the way the new NBA is - all the superstars want to play in the big markets together. Look what happend to Cleveland when they thought their star would stay.

    2) Harris is no D Will but he's good.

    3) Favors will be a STUD.

    4) 2 lottery picks.

    Cleveland would kill for this deal for Labron if they knew he would leave.

  • Golfhack20 West Jordan, Ut
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:33 a.m.

    Look at Harris' numbers. They are in line with DWill's. Yes Dwill has higher numbers but just think what this kid can do if we have a united front. Let's be honest after Sloan left or should I say was forced out look at Dwill did now. He is going to a big market with less athletes. Maybe Harris' numbers go up.

  • Jazzguru Provo, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:30 a.m.

    After a 15-5 start who would have thought Sloan would bounce like he did and Willy would be traded.

    I would have liked to have seen Williams to Houston for Kevin Martin and Aaron Brooks. Think about it, Houston is actively seeking trades, if you put 2 guards who can fill it up from the outside and Millsap and Jefferson on the block, that would be a dangerous team. Now the Jazz get an unproven rookie and a decent pg. This is not a good trade unless they have another deal lined up.

  • ouisc Farmington, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:30 a.m.

    I agree with the general sentiments posted here. D-Will is a great player, passionate, and was fun to watch. In hindsight, he could have matured a little differently so that he could have integrated with the team and coaches a little bit better. Good luck to D-Will in New Jersey. I will applaud you, D-Will, when you come back to Utah--thanks for giving us your all.

    I'm really hoping we're looking to trade Devin Harris to the Mavs after this. He is a decent player, but he is a poor shooter. Those of you who thought Bell was struggling with his shot--Harris' shooting percentages are worse. With D-Will gone, and even less outside shooting, defenses might as well quadruple team AJ.

    I do like Favors--tall and lanky, and not afraid to play defense. He has a few years to develop his NBA game, though, so his production is down the road.

  • Big_Ben Centerville, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:30 a.m.

    I think a lot of people are emotionally fired up. It is WAY too early to declare how this trade ends up.

    -We know we are getting in Harris. Its a downgrade for sure, but its better than Watson.

    -Favors could be AWESOME. Maybe not, but he could be a 15/10 guy.

    -We get the Nets pick this year, that could be top five!

    -We could get the warriors pick next year, which could be top 10.

    -How many teams go far with a PG as their best player? Anyone? Buellar?

    It was clear that the Jazz needed an overhaul. This year's team wasn't working. Harris deal only goes one year longer than Dwills. Its not a long term deal. We may not be done dealing.

    Very excited for the future and I will cheer for my jazz no matter what!

  • DWill Rocks Garland, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:30 a.m.

    There is no way we gave up our superstar but if he really wanted to go to New York like the reports suggested I am happy he went to New Jersey, which is the next best thing for him. Even though I'm sad to see Deron leave this team will be better off in the long run. Deron wasn't going to resign with Utah in 2012 and things have been falling apart, he hasn't had a healthy shooting hand, plus he was taking a lot of heat for coach Sloan. I'm excited to see some new things happening especially with the addition of Derick Favors, who was the 3rd pick overall last year, and was the most talented big man in last years draft. The Jazz were used to taking players who were 6-8 and 6-9 and making them into all stars. Now imagine Derick Favors giving quality minutes and becoming the eventual starter. Devin Harris is also a great point guard at 15 points and 7 assists. This team will likely not make the playoffs but in the long run it made sense. We'll miss you D-will

  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:29 a.m.

    This may be a blessing in disquise,Harris is solid,Favors has upside,hopefully the picks pan out,hoping miles is included in the deal

  • Bomar Roberts, ID
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:27 a.m.

    This is a great day for the Jazz. DWill has become a distraction the last 10 weeks, yes he gets his points and his assists but he also has had a lot of turnovers at critical times in winnable games. He wasn't going to stay here, so let's see how much happier he will be in Jersey. Jazz fans have to be realistic about the their chances. There is only one NBA champion a year and the Jazz can't compete financially with big market teams with their money.
    Hats off to the Jazz for being as competitive as they have been since coming to SLC.
    Also, with what is going on in the NBA, attendance is falling, TV ratings down, the future of the league, as is now constituted, is in doubt.

  • 3-pointer monroe, ut
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:26 a.m.

    Great move by the Jazz...move a disgruntled player who wasn't living up to hype and getting 4 players in return and 3 Mill in cash. They also received a 19 year old #3 lottery pick along with a former NBA all-star and what did they give up? A overhyped point guard who can't play defense and who was going to leave in a year anyway...good move!

  • livestrong Springville, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:26 a.m.

    I like this trade. They would not have done it unless they knew Deron wanted out and was going to leave as soon as he could anyone---whether we got anything in return or not. Did we really want to go through next year what Denver went through this year with Carmelo? No. This way we got a good point guard (not as great as Deron, but still pretty solid), and a prized young forward, plus two first round picks. I don't think this makes us that much worse, and it holds better promise for the future.

    Good move!

  • H2OSKI Alpine, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:26 a.m.

    Deron was the 3rd pick in the first round and so was Derrick Favors. Plus we get Devin Harris who is serviceable not to mention two more 1st round picks.

    Kevin OConner got that instead of nothing when Deron walks after next season.

    Deron was leading us to a first round exit in the playoffs this season.

    Gee, let me think.

    See, ya Deron.

    You were fun to watch but you clearly can't lead a team anywhere.

    Derons statsu up and team wins down.

    Clearly not working.

    There will be more trades coming. Favors, or Jefferson, or Millsap may be out of here soon. Too much money tied up in that position clearly.

    They are revamping this team for a different coach.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:25 a.m.

    Send AK along and it will be a great deal.

  • Basketballogy Orem, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:25 a.m.

    To those who think the Jazz got "nothing" for Williams: take a deep breath, the sky is not falling.

    This appears to actually be a good deal for the Jazz.

    Williams wasn't sticking around anyway. He hates Utah and has told friends he wants to go to New York to play with Stoudemire. d'Antoni's no defense, all offense style suits Williams game.

    Dallas has been trying to reaquire Devin Harris, a quality point guard. Although he may not have as strong an upside Derron does, he doesn't have Derron's DOWNSIDE either. Harris won't pout and destroy his team with his prima donna attitude.

    Williams liked offense -- particular things that stuff stat sheets -- but lets small guards blow by him at will, putting Jazz bigs in foul trouble or letting opposing bigs get easy buckets.

    And Derrik Favors has a tremendous amount of promise, not to mention size (6'10").

    For all the Jazz fans that HOWLED about drafting Hayward instead of size, now the Jazz just got size: the 3rd pick of this year's draft, and they got a solid, veteran point guard as well.

  • chase SL Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:24 a.m.

    First impression: I Love The Trade.

    Serious folks - D will would be LEAVING at the end of next year. (just look at his face, he wanted out). DH can ball! and DF is a future 14/10 guy! Plus, a couple of First round draft picks!

    Jazz management should be appaluded.

  • gcp52 Lehi, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:23 a.m.

    as much as I like D-Will as a player, I really like this trade. The Jazz get rid of D-Will now and avoid the circus that would be next year. We get a young big guy (that we wanted in the draft) and an experienced point guard, plus draft picks and money. This is a win win win for the Jazz. D-Will is a great player, but the team as a whole is in a much better spot with this line up.

    Good luck D-Will in Jersey/Brooklyn. Jive Jay Z my regards

  • JazzyMan Meadow, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:21 a.m.

    It appears ,by the looks of this trade that Jazz management figured that D-Will was not going to stick around once his contract expired,and if indeed that was the case,then the Jazz made as good of trade as was possible for the time they had. I loved DWill;I thought he was the best point guard in the league along with many top analysts early in the season.Unfortunately,the relationship between him and the Jazz got beyond repair.I wish DWill the best and I hope that the 19 year-old Favors can help the Jazz inside the paint where they desperately need another quality big man.It appears that Harris was not liking New Jersey too much,so the Nets let him go.For the Jazz fans who are disappointed,this trade was much better fgor the Jazz' future than keeping a disguntled Williams around for another year.Please rethink yourselves when you say that you're not watching the Jazz again.Anyone can be a fairweather fan.

  • InspectorC Kaysville, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:21 a.m.

    Farewell, Coach Sloan!!

    Good riddence, D-Will!!!

    The old saying goes that "Revenge is best served cold." Ahhhhh.... Jerry must be SMILING out there on his John Deere this morning!!

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:20 a.m.

    Wow! The Jazz really threw in the towel on this season.

    This says one of two thing: Either the Jazz would rather take the risk to be good in the future than be mediocre now, or, that they are more concerned about the luxury tax than winning.

    Favors could be a star though. Harris is decent and New Jersey's pick should be in the top 10. It could end up being a great move 2 years down the road, but I'm not a fan of it right now.

    Let's hope Golden State is really bad next year. I hope it's not protected very well.

  • Go Big Blue!!! Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:19 a.m.

    Love to see DWill play. But great attitudes and team chemestry win tough games and championships.

    I think Deron would have worked out of the current team melt down, but a major change could be better for everyone.

  • Winglish Lehi, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:19 a.m.

    Teams that trade superstars wind up in the lottery.

  • Madden Herriman, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:18 a.m.

    You almost never benefit by giving up the best player in the deal. Sounds iffy to me. Still, probably make Jazz better 2 years down the road (when they wouldn't have DWill), but two seasons is a lot of basketball.

    Maybe the new guys fit in and the Jazz actually get better. Ewing effect anyone?

  • TizTheSeason logan, utah
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:18 a.m.

    A true committed competitor wouldn't give up on his team. (Stockton's are rare) I haven't enjoyed watching the chemistry collapse these last 17 games. I've been way disappointed in DWill's change in performance. The trade will be better for the JAZZ. One player does not a team make, unless you're the Cavs.

    What is it with these guys that think....I'm an All-Star thus I know better than the coaches and my team mates. Attitude is the foundation of a great team.

  • PalmG Glen Allen, VA
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:18 a.m.

    i just saw that golden state was thrown in this trade as well...so why didnt we try to get Stephen Curry or Monta Ellis, theyre both clearly better than devin harris

  • Pale Bear Orem, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:16 a.m.

    So what if this is possible--after the Bulls game Sloan was told that they were going to trade Deron and he didn't like it. He told them as coach of the team that he wanted Deron to stay in spite of the arguments they had. KOC and/or Greg said no dice. So Sloan walked because of the lack of respect for his opinion. It certainly explains why Sloan would quit in the middle of it all. Maybe instead of being fed up with the prima donna it was the management. Just a crazy hypothesis.

  • grj Bountiful, ut
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:16 a.m.

    The only negative I see to this trade is that CJ wasn't packaged in the deal.

  • Black & White SLC, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:13 a.m.

    Good bye & Good riddance!

    I'd rather have a team of "No Names" that work their behinds off, then a PrimaDonna who is not a real teammate, and expects it all to be handed to him.

    See ya. Don't let the door hit you in the back on your way out to NEW JERSEY!!!

  • The Final Word Alpine, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:12 a.m.

    Lets just be honest.

    Deron is an incredible talent and fun to watch.

    He also has a bad attitude and has led this team exactly no-where.

    All he did was run his own stuff/plays and run off a hall of fame coach and lead his team to a lousy record this season.

    He is supposedly the best PG in the league and yet he can't LEAD his team to better than an 8 seed?

    Tha about sums it up.

    Brutal nonetheless and shocking for sure but when was the last team that won a championship with their best player as a PG?

    Not happening.

    NBA championships belong to teams with good BIGs.

    I don't think we are done trading either. Derrick Favors plays the same position as Al Jefferson, and Paul Millsap.....


  • PalmG Glen Allen, VA
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:12 a.m.

    how can anyone be happy about this trade? this is just awful. You all are saying that dwill had attitude problems? is he supposed to be happy that the jazz have been playing awful the last two months? hes even blaming himself that he hasnt played very well lately. this is a terrible move, Harris is nowhere near as good. Why dont we just trade dwill for cp3, at least get another all star out of this. Sorry Jefferson, but you are truly bad luck to whatever team you play for. I still love deron, but this franchise is doomed. go thunder!

  • klepsydra Longmont, CO
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:12 a.m.

    I'd love to see CJ included as well for a draft pick or some other young player. I'd like to keep AK and resign him even if it is for as much as $8 million. All these young players are going to need some veterans to show them how the game is supposed to be played, I can't imagine two better vets for that role then AK and Bell.

  • KD Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:10 a.m.

    Say what you want, for efficiency rating Deron Williams +23.55, Favors +8.80 and Harris +15.83.
    Favors and Harris add up to the efficiency of one player. To Kevin OC, maybe the math adds up but you can only have 5 players on the court. You've gutted the team from great talent. What a shame. As a season ticket holder I am extremely disappointed on the direction of the Utah Jazz.

  • JK Regina, Saskatchewan
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:09 a.m.

    I am a jazz fan from canada and will be in detroit for the game on saturday...guess i'll get the first live look at the new look jazz.....
    still don't think we got enough value...favors better become a star!!!

  • That's A Good One Meridian, ID
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:09 a.m.

    I guess my only question is why didn't management let Sloan suspend the 10th best PG in the league when he wanted to??? We could've ripped that band aid off, shipped Mr. Tattoos back east where he can fade into oblivion behind Derrick Rose and Rajon Rondo and let Sloan get back to doing what he had done for 23 years - being the glue that held the franchise together.

    I wonder if Ty Corbin is second guessing his decision to take the wheel of this bus going into the ditch, and fast.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:08 a.m.

    The Jazz will now have 3 power forwards on the team. That makes a lot of sense.

    However I like the idea of Favors starting and Millsap coming off the bench.

    I don't like the move but I don't think the Jazz had a choice and now they save a ton of money on luxury tax.

    Harris is a good point guard. Not even close to Dwill but Dwill quit on this team.

    You can't win in the NBA without superstars on your team. Now the Jazz have zero. But I like the idea of building a team around someone other than the point guard.

    Dwill was gone after next year any ways.........The Jazz did this to save money NOW

  • Floyd Johnson Broken Arrow, OK
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:06 a.m.

    Dr. Truth

    No they hold AK's contract though the end of the season, that holds salary cap space to rebuild with next year.

    Can't say that I am not disappointed. I enjoyed watching Williams. Maybe a change in scenery will do everyone a bit of good. It will be interesting to see what first round picks they end up with, and what Utah will do with their glut of power forwards. I can't imagine any of those guys playing the 3 next year.

  • BamaFan Spanish Fork, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:04 a.m.

    I am not a huge Jazz fan but as a fan of the NBA, this trade is great for the Jazz. Deron Williams would have bailed on the Jazz anyway and the Jazz brass just protected themselves.

    The Jazz traded away 20 and 10 for 15 and 8..basically a wash. They also picked up Derick Favors; a young and athletic 6'10", 250 big man with incredible upside. The kid was the ACC player of the year as a Freshman.

    You throw in the $3 million in cash and the two first round draft picks and this was a GREAT trade for the Jazz. This might allow them to salvage what is left of this year.

    Personally, I hope this was a result of Deron Williams shooting his mouth of to a Hall of Fame Coach and costing an organization a 23 year veteran. I hope this was a back-handed attempt to show a player that he is not bigger than the league or the organization he represents. Kevin O'Connor showed me something..

  • JK Regina, Saskatchewan
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:03 a.m.

    we got robbed

  • cvguy Lehi, Utah
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:02 a.m.

    Love it! Harris is still young, he should thrive with the Jazz. Favors is supposed to be a star on the rise and two picks to get lucky and get a star. All for a player who didn't want to be here.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:02 a.m.

    Seems like Larry will have the last laugh here.

    Millers did not like what happened to their coach, and this speaks volumes.

    the team will be hurt but Deron may like it in deep dark Siberia New Jersey...not

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:01 a.m.

    The Jazz just got a double D upgrade

  • mkSdd3 Ogden, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 10:00 a.m.

    Is there any way we can throw in CJ as well? If we are going to blow up the team lets also get ride of all the people with a "go it alone" attitude.

    We may as well throw AK in as well just to get ride of the bad contract. He will not resign for the 5 - 6 million that he is worth.

    Lets really start over and do this right.

  • Hugh G. Hater SLC, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:59 a.m.

    Jazz- Dumping talent since 1979.

  • Something to think about Ogden, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:56 a.m.

    I'm just glad they are getting "some" value for DWill. Otherwise he'd leave soon and the Jazz would get nothing in exchange. The players are not a big deal to me, but he picks could be! I hope the Jazz do their homework and make the most of them.

    I also believe the Jazz fans will feel better about what's on the court. I'd rather have several "50 watt bulbs" burning at 50 watts, than a "100 watt bulb" burning at 50 watts! DWill was not giving the organization his best. I'm okay with the Jazz coming up short as long as they play hard and give their best! Lately, they've been loosing because of a lack of effort!

    Time will tell!

  • DEW Sandy, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:55 a.m.

    interesting - just like Boozer wanting to move on - goodbye Mr. Will if that is what you want after final year 2011-12. Go ahead and do the trade.

  • fan29 Orem, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:55 a.m.

    Big mistake, Williams is the Jazz. Without him this Team goes nowhere for many years to come. The Jazz will never keep star players,if they don't find away to surround Williams with talented players. Good luck Derron, what ever happens. If the Jazz let you get away they have let the best point guard in the NBA go. Larry is turning over in his grave!!

  • Utah.sports.fan Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:53 a.m.

    It makes me wonder if Sloan would have stuck around if he knew this was coming down.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:52 a.m.

    Nobody wins a championship with their best player as point guard.

    Deron has lead this team exactly no-where with his mutiny and "my way" before the coaches attitude.

    I guess now we know what the organization thought about how it went down with Deron and Sloan.

    Evidently they did not believe his attitude was taking them anywhere.

  • LuVePacifica WestValleyCity, Utah
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:52 a.m.

    ahh really?
    Jazz are doing not too great As it is,wish Deronwillams and his family well and more Success :)

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:51 a.m.

    This Is Wonderful News....DeRon is Gone!

    DeRon Is Gone!


  • B Logan, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:51 a.m.

    Honestly, all I care about is the fact that I'm a Mom of a 7 year old boy who LOVES the Jazz because of D-Will. Now I have to comfort a 7 year old who is going to be crushed. Yes I understand the Jazz's reasoning. And yes I understand that this is the way the business works. And I get that the Jazz are okay with killing the team this year for the future. But, I'm still going to have to explain it all to a very sad 7 year old. And that, I'm not happy about!

  • We the People Sandy, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:50 a.m.

    Worst trade in Jazz history. I no longer support the franchise nor anything that it does. Kevin OConnor is horrible.

  • Deray Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:50 a.m.

    This is Awesome, I'm actually excited about basketball again. DWill had too much control, he was unhappy and it's been showing in his game lately. He has been schooled by Westbrook, Rose, and Nash twice in the last few weeks. Nash is like 48 years old, and he took DWill to the woopin shed 2 games in a row.
    Favors is what makes this deal good, now Milsap can come off the bench, where he's best. They'll get 2 good first round picks in the draft, good move Jazz.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:50 a.m.

    I love this! I never would've wanted this to happen pre-Sloan retirement, but with DWills attitude and blantant disregard for what Sloan wanted him to do, I love this move. No better way to let the players know it won't be tolerated here.

  • nielsen American Fork, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:50 a.m.

    I was kind of shocked to hear williams leaving so soon but nonetheless it seemed like he wanted to go. I think that Devin Harris and Derrick Favors will come in and be good additions to the team. Hopefully we can start winning again and make the playoffs. That would be nice.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:48 a.m.

    This has huge upside. Watson is playing well, adding Favors and Harris is huge. Will Kirilenko stay? Doesn't matter much now that we're better positioned with picks and players.

    Hopefully O'Connor got humbled and can convince Sloan to come back.

  • Garrett R Henefer, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:48 a.m.

    Dumb dumb dumb if you ask me.. Oh and fradette is a great guy, that everyone likes in Utah, but as a pro, he might struggle.. Get rid of Kevin o Conner!!!!!!!!!

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:47 a.m.

    Good Ridence!

    DeRon is a problem!

  • steveinspfork Spanish Fork, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:46 a.m.

    This has to be the most ill-advised trade in Jazz history. Williams is a premier, young guard. Devin Harris has already peaked and will not put up numbers as Williams did. O'Connor, you should be the one that resigns now, before you are run out of Utah for good.

  • runwasatch Ogden, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:46 a.m.

    Is the Concord jet still flying? Let's get him on it so he is out of here as fast as possible.

    D Williams is a joke and a marginal player at best...

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:45 a.m.

    Williams is a great player but isn't the leader Utah needs. He's shown that this season; great numbers but no leadership.

    Now to convince Sloan to return...this trade is 3 weeks too late...

  • skiutah American Fork, Utah
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:44 a.m.

    There's so much we don't know, but all I can say is that if this is true, there is so much more to the Jerry Sloan story than we know. The Jazz are great are keeping things tight lipped, but actions speak louder than words.

    If Deron is that much of a problem that they would trade him, they could at least make a better trade. Two first round picks are risky. At the same time, it's no secret that the Jazz need to rebuild in order to become competitive.

  • butters Salt Lake city, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:44 a.m.

    one year with the nets, one off season to see if prokorov can bring anyone in and if not then he's gone. well played deron. can't wait until you come back to utah. us jazz fans have been known to harbor grudges.

  • B Logan, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:43 a.m.

    I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

  • Rico Santaquin, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:43 a.m.

    Wow! First Sloan, then Williams. Those were the only two guys holding this thing together year after year. I'm not sure what they're thinking. Did everyone notice that once Deron quit and then got hurt (in more ways than one) that the Jazz suddenly lost 14 of 17 games? Deron is a rare player. He's a winner and that is more than just skill. I'm very afraid of what will happen. We've been spoiled. Heaven forbid we become the Timberwolves. Sorry Al.

  • Crotty Kid Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:40 a.m.

    Deron Williams is much better than Devin Harri, there's no debate there. But Devin Harris, Derick Favors and two 1st round picks from a lowly Nets team is much better than only one an half years of Deron Williams on the team. Let's face it, he wasn't sticking around especially with all the stars joining forces.

  • Dr Truth SLC, ut
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:39 a.m.

    Here we go back into full rebuilding mode. Who's next AK? I Can't fault the Jazz for changing the direction of the team, they weren't going to win a championship anyway and Deron wasn't going to be happy with anything less. Hopefully the people the Jazz pick up have the drive to win like Deron did. Otherwise, the Jazz lose in the deal.

  • JFFR Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:38 a.m.

    Not a bad deal for the Jazz. I'm okay with it.

  • RBN Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:38 a.m.

    Plxy... it's Derrick Favors. Cousins is not in this deal.

  • RBN Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:36 a.m.

    DNews on top of this one.... not. Trib and ESPN report that the deal is done.

    Wow! That's gonna help the Jazz with outside shooting.

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:36 a.m.

    Great trade for the Jazz. D-Will was done here.

  • carabaoU Moab, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:36 a.m.

    Now we will see how much Williams was a product of the system or one of the league's best PG. I believe is just another product of the system. He'll continue is slide to an average PG in the league. Good luck playing in the East with Rondo.

  • Jesse Tooele, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:35 a.m.

    Didn't see that coming now did ya Todd? Maybe KOC works the phones after all.

  • SnipeHookyoFace Farmington, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:35 a.m.

    I love it! Harris can ball and Favors is Money! We get 2 first round picks as well. Lets get Sullinger and Fredette!

  • Rox Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:34 a.m.

    This is a done deal as of now, 9:34 am

  • Triple B Milford, NH
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:33 a.m.

    No! Say it ain't so!

  • TMung99 Bluffdale, Utah
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:32 a.m.

    Seriously, Jazz are basically going for a lottery pick at this point. Way to throw in the season. We get virtually nothing for D. Will....

  • troutman Washington, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:31 a.m.

    Too bad that he just couldn't like UTAH!
    30 % of Basketball is Attitude, and Deron
    just did not have a good attitude!
    He will fade into no mans land at New Jersey!

  • ImaUteFan West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:30 a.m.

    What the ?????

    Jazz just became the Timberwolves.

  • plyxply SLC, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:29 a.m.

    the Jazz may as well make the deal, it's what Deron wants and it's something that could help the Jazz down the road. It's much easier to find a quality pg vs a quality big so it's worth the risk on Cousins.
    Love Deron, he's been good to the community but the way the deal with Jerry went down he's not ever going to be as beloved as he could've.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 9:27 a.m.

    This team was going nowhere. He knew it, management knew it.