Good move coach. This can only be a good thing for the Ute players to know that
this is not tolerated there.
Well, I guess we won't have to hear the tds trolls chest pounding about thier
higher morals.Sounds like Kwhitt is taking a strong stand on this
issue. Good for him.
As expected the "other" newspaper has a much more accurate account of
the situation.Sounds like this guy has had other "issues"
in the past.My guess is he'll never see the field ( at Utah) again.
My guess is he'll be back on the field when the yewts need him
@hedgehog Why do you keep bashing the D-News? I find
info on D-News that is not found at the other paper all the time. Both papers do
a good job but they both choose what they want to cover and to what extent.
Ted H.-The last two players that committed a crime while on Utah,
they never suited up in a Utah uniform again. Marquis Wilson, and Mo Neal. So if
your questioning Coach Whitt's judgement, you are way off pal.Maybe
next time this happens Coach Whitt can handle the situation like Coach
Mendenhall does, and let his players play an extra 4 games until its finally
released ala Shiloah Teo .
Ted H - Does Trevor Molini ring a bell? I guess theft and prescription fraud
isn't bad at the zoo. He had to be arrested twice for that before he was kicked
off the team. The first time I guess isn't against the moral code, just the
second.Hypocrisy knows no bounds in Happy Vally!!
From the other paper:"Fotu also had a warrant out of Provo City
Justice Court for failure to appear on charges of giving false personal
information to police, unlawful possession of alcohol or a controlled substance
by a minor and public urination for an incident on March 20, 2009."So when the dude broke these laws almost 2 years ago.....?Whit just waited a couple years on these ones?
Big sport fan,THe trib got the story right.the Dnews slapped
together pieces of a press release. He got pulled over at 2am not
10am.They also reported additial previous infractions that further
justifies Whitt's decision. I understand that advertising and
selling BYU is the Dnews number 1 priority but to dismiss all other teams (Utah
USU) is a negative affect on the supposed "exposure" the corporation
so desperatly craves.
hedgieThe DNews usually gets the story right.the hedgehogs usually
slap together pieces of incomplete tidbits of information to make their
incomplete and obsession fueled points.The Media as a whole prints
additial facts. I understand that bashing and obsessing about BYU is
the hedgehogs number 1 priority but to "not" dismiss all other
relevant facts has a negative affect on the "attention" the hedgehog
so obviously and desperatly craves.
Ted H: Unlawful possession of alcohol by a minor and public urination in Utah
County? That would have eliminated a great percentage of the zoo players by the
mythical "honor" code, to include Jimbo McMahon and (blue chipper)
Trevor Molini had the zoo coaches not chosen to look the other way. The last I
saw, most universities do not suspend players for misdemeanors, especially if
they happen in Happy Valley!!Go Utes!! Onward and Upward!!By the way Teddy H, how do you know what Whitt did or did not due? Figures!!
That's too bad, I was hoping he would come in and be a big contributor this
year. He may have just lost millions of dollars in future NFL salary if he
doesn't get back on track.
Vegasboy,When did I say I know what Whit did?Your buddy
Andrew is the one who said what Whit does. Need a reminder?From his
post:"The last two players that committed a crime while on Utah, they
never suited up in a Utah uniform again." My response:
According to what Andrewboy says Whit does, he never would have suited up again
for Utah right?Did he suit up for Utah after his crime in 2009?And following typical yewt fashion, congrats on your tremendous English
skills("Whitt did or did not due""Due" Are you
serious? No - that's not a typo.That's called not going to
freshman(make that first grade) English. Are you really that yewt
player who so eloquently put it before getting hammered by Boise "They them
girlse state they them bunch cheerleaders."Coaches should
DUE(that's for you)better and improve their class checks on you this coming
vegasute:Jim McMahon was a long time ago. Research how BYU has managed
these situations since '99. BYU's reaction has been very consistent and
predictable.hedgehog:"Explains" may be a better word
than "justifies." No justification is required for what appears to be
a reasonable decision. We all appreciate the coach taking a quick
and clear position on this situation. I join you in wishing Fotu the best. I
hope this provides the impetus to change that Fotu required. It is certainly an
example to under-classmen.
Some real maturity around here.
I'm with motorbike on this one. It takes ZERO class to turn this into a
"who is standing on higher ground" debate when this is about a kid's
Why are BYU players being talked about on an article involving a Ute player?
Some of you ladies just can't help your no matter how ridiculous your rants are.
The fact is people make mistakes and this kid will be punished accordingly by
the coach. I am sure he will be consistent considering the situation just like
BYU has been consistent considering their situations. For all the hypocrites
out there, look in the mirror and fix yourself.
The only decent comments on this board are ones not involving BYU or Utah
coaches and whatever else a little hate can stir up. Why do we rejoice in
weakness of a young man that can be very damaging in his life if not checked?
Oh, yeah, so we can semi-anonymously attack a few hundred thousand students and
fans of a rival. fans of both sides--grow up.
Well that's one way to start the exposure bang in the PAC. I'm sure that
everyone will soon take note. Gives Whittingham something to talk about during
the off Season to sparkplug the team going into Spring Practice.
Vegas Ute,Trevor Molini played back in the mid 1980s. You have to go back
25 years to find an example?
andrewute1 Actually, Marquis Wilson did play again and was dismissed
the following season after his second infraction.I am sure you know
the truth about Shiloah Teo's case, but choose to ignore it in an effort to
score points. To summarize, as soon as Mendenhall found out about Teo's
citation, he took action. What was the action against Fotu after his first
offense in 2009?Isolated from the Ute fan comments, I hope Fotu gets
things together for his own personal growth. I have no problem with how
Whittingham disciplines his players.
From what I hear Utah is deep enough at linebacker this should not hurt the
quality of the team this year. Whitt made a tough decision. Hopefully the kid
can get his head straight and get back on the field. He's a real talent.Hedge and Vegasute, grow up.
Ted H.Stop picking on hedgehog's roomie. He may leave cheetos in the
couch cushions, but, he's really a nice guy. Besides, he plays for Utah, so, as
far as hedgehog is concerned, he walks on water. This is only a minor
misunderstanding that will all be sorted out before fall practice begins.
Cougars1, sometimes you have to look to your own side, too. Ted H. is right
there with Vegasute and Hedgehog. But I agree with you, they all need to grow
up. And for Ted H., you also have a very, very limited vocabulary. It
typically consists of, "I hate Utah, I hate Utah!!! That's all I've read
out of you so far, at least. And to say that typical Utes have awful grammar is
a very sad and terrible generalization. I respect you, you just need to do a
little bit of growing up, along with Hedgehog and VegasUte, and many others on
this board. Maybe we all should just cheer for our teams, and not say anything
to the other teams unless it is a congratulations.
Discipline decisions are University and coaches' decisions.What's
the beef?The kid made a mistake, and hopefully will be able to mend
his life.It's whiney for Utah fans to tell BYU how to handle. It's
whiney for BYU fans to tell Utah fans how to handle.Geez, follow
your own schools...
Ted H and Vegas Ute are immature. The fact of the matter is that a
young person made a huge mistake. He could of hurt himself and others. Whitt
made a decision to suspend. The kid either gets his life together and moves on
or he'll have more issues. The kid needs help. Football is an afterthought.
Whitt won't simply let him back because he needs a good linebacker. If he comes
back, it is because he changed for the better. Let's hope he changes for the
better whether he plays or not.
Why do we have to make every article a fight article about who is righteouser
and wickeder? Humans are humans, at BYU or Utah. The kid was arrested, and Coach
Whitt suspended him. That is what he should have done, and that is what he did.
What's past is past with how other situations have been handled. What's
important is how situations are handled going forward. I don't think Coach Whitt
did anything wrong in how he handled the situation. This only hurts
the young man. Bashing him doesn't help. Now let's leave the debates about
I recently asked the county prosecutor for leniency for a young man that had
been arrested for DUI. I explained his sad, unusual circumstances. Her response?
They all have unusual circumstances, drunk drivers kill people.
Get the man some help. He could have killed himself or others. This young man
needs to have some serious intervention before he ruins his life. Thankful that
an officer did his duty protecting our community. Most football programs have
some drinking issues that need to be addressed and curbed.
Get it together Nai Fotu. Not for the sake of the Utes chances--or for the
chance to play in the NFL--or for any other worldly reason, but for your own
sake. You are a good kid and you've taken a fall. The measure of a man is how he
responds to situations like this (and, perhaps teaches others to do the same). I
don't care if you come back and become all-conference for the Utes or if you
never play another down--LEARN FROM THIS! Good luck and keep your head up!
Is Kyle Van Noy recent enough for you BYU fans? Did he not get a DUI in Reno? I
saw him on the field this year. The fact of the matter is that these are young
men who make mistakes regardless of what program they play for. Hopefully they
will learn from it and hopefully as fans we can let them move on.
rogerdodger, nice stretch. Van Noy was a senior in high school when this
happened. He wasn't even at BYU, but he was told he would have to wait a year
before he could even apply for admittance. Apples and oranges. Hopefully Fotu
can get some things worked out and be back to playing football in a year as
rogerdodger:Facts are important. KVN sat an entire
season before he played at BYU. He should have been a freshman in '09. Bronco
gave him the opportunity to transfer but he didnt want to.
-Its really silly to compare who has committed what sins, when they did it, and
how it was handled by the coaches. If it makes you feel better to know that
your coach handles a situation better (in your mind) than your rival's
coach........well........you ought to get a life.-Nai made a bad
decision. Hopefully, he can get his life on track. I know that right now Kyle
Whittingham is not thinking about Nai as a player or how this impacts his
defense, he is only worried about Nai Fotu the person. And that person needs
help. He is fortunate that he didn't hurt or kill someone. He will suffer
stiff consequences, but hopefully he can turn his life around.
BigSportsFan!! Hedgehog bashes the DN because he's trying to take
the focus off of the real issue, a Utah football player with a serious alcohol
abuse problem.Fotu has a serious problem and the fact that he had a
similar issue in 2009 raises real concerns about whether he needs to take an
extended or permanent break from football to deal with his problem.
Hey vegasUte and all other yewt fans. This is not about byu. So why do you have
to allways drag byu into it. Its about your boy drinking abd driving get getting
bgl,Amen!!Every major college sports program has things
like this happen from time to time. That's why they all have rules to deal with
it. Some have stronger rules than others. We are talking about
college kids here who are still figuring out life. Most of them still can't see
the big picture or how their behavior today will affect them and others in the
long term. It has nothing to do with one school's rules being better than
Davis | 10:21 a.m. Feb. 22, 2011 Kaysville, UTNo kidding all you
Utesie whiners, wow. this guy does not play for BYU, Bronco does not need to
know how he would handle this situation. Previous BYU players are not condemned
by this guys actions.He plays for UtahIs enrolled at Utahand has a scholarship from UtahWhy does BYU's athletic program need to
care about this?
@Davis and @Jarka-rusthe irony of your posts is almost too much. I
doubt you caught it yourselves.
The most important thing to worry about here Fotu himself. He has a problem he
cannot control. Let's all hope he can get into a treatment program and then get
back on the field.I'm sure he has people looking out for him. Let's
just hope he makes it.
Dang it Nai, what the heck ???
Wow, another Athlete taking a stupid pill. What really hurts he was going to be
a senior. How sad. I think KW did the right thing. What about a red shirt or
grey shirt year? I am a BYU Fan but I do not like reading about these kinds of
problems even if it is Utah players. The young man has a problem that may be
deeper than is realized. .215 is way beyond just partying. I hope KW can help
him. Can his playing be salvaged in some way. A DUI happened at BYU with an
incoming freshman and he was not allowed to enter school for 1 year. Another
young man who was a senior and got stupid with his girl friend and was kicked
out last year. Luckily he was good enough to catch on with the Bears. I guess I
do not understand why these kids suddenly get really stupid. I hope it can be
worked out so his life isn't totally disrupted. It is interesting that many
coaches around the country are really cracking down on stupid. Hedge, do you let
your kids get plastered? Is there consequences?Jeff
why do we always give special privilege to these guys who play a child game for
a kings mansion ...they come and go each year. Notre Dame actually has a program
to intergrate the graduating seniors back into society. Why because they have
been pampered and babied all the lives...not all of them granted , the team
captain never would come close to this. It's the team commitment with the team
that counts...wise decisions need to be taught way back when ..not expectation
that its a right to play rather it is a privilege...alot of money and very few
go on ...academics , humanity, all the good things they could doing for others
is so self centered I like the girl' s comments on the byu guy cuz you are all
that playing a kids game...while those with the real talent to make a better
world get passed ...the u was terrible
Hopefully he can get his life in order. Sounds like he has some things to work
on. Blood alcohol of almost 3 times the limit and backwards on the freeway,
I'm as die-hard a Ute fan as there is to be found and in terms of life-mistakes
I'm all about second chances; goodness knows I've been given plenty in my life.
That being said, this seems to be a recurring problem for this kid. Putting aside for a moment the "black-eye" this kind of stuff can be
for the program, I am of the opinion that he needs to learn a hard lesson here.
With that, if he genuinely learns that hard lesson then I am all for giving the
kid another chance. Although, on the flip-side of things athletes and
especially high-level athletes generally think that they are above the rules.
So, it is good for these high-level athletes; across the board, to see one of
"their own" take a fall once in a while. That being said,
Fotu's might be just a case of "getting caught" while others do not.
I hope he sobers up and learns a lesson from this, regardless of whether or not
he dons the crimson and white again. More importantly, I am grateful that his
stupid mistake didn't hurt anyone but him.
@hedgehog.....no one beats their chest more than you do. @Ted H and anyone else
beating their chests about any of these young men and their situations...welcome
to life. BYU students do it, Utah Students do it, every University has its aches
and pains when it comes to individuals like this. It is up to the University to
get all the facts and make a decision. Too bad these guys have to do this to
themselves. It is an individual decision, not a University decision that these
guys make and they have to pay the price. In reality, it is sad to see such
talent go to waste. I hope this young man can learn from his mistakes and make a
difference in his life not only for himself but his family around him.
Mr. Fotu needs rehab and fast. This is not the first time for this young man.
Time for him to get his addiction behind him. Oh, by the way, if he is able to
get cleaned up to the teams safisfaction, let him back on the team and compete
in fall camp. If he refuses to clean up, don't hold a spot for him. Everyone,
even Zoob players, deserve a second chance. Don't blow if Nai.
Re:dueling banjosThe coaches and staff at the U put emphasis on
academics everyday. Coach Whitt constantly reminds the players that although
they are playing football and many of them are on scholarship, their first and
main goal is to achieve good grades and graduate. The players are constantly
reminded that they can't play football for their whole lives and that they need
life skills to go into the real world. They are also constantly reminded to live
within the rules because there are consequences and everything they do reflects
not only on the team, but the entire university. I won't lie to myself, I know
rules are broken, but rules being broken is no reflection on a lack of teaching
and educating by the Utah coaches.
Regardless of what parents say or coaches say or the law says, people are going
to make mistakes. I think Bronco and K Whit are both great at handling their
players. I don't know everything that goes into these decisions by the coaches
on what to do with players that get in trouble. I do think though that Bronco
and Whit will make the best decisions for all involved.
I have no doubt Whittingham will ultimately handle this properly. For now he has
suspended the kid and that was the proper thing to do. With a little bit of time
to analyze it he will undoubtedly make the final decision properly as well.
We hope all goes well for Nai...
probably never plays again at Utah? Coach Whit will do what is best for the
player, hopefully everything work out in a positive?
Wow. Tough case. Best wishes, Nai.