There is no question, absolutely none, that Obama took the 2008 election because
of huge contributions to his war chest and . . . the press. History does repeat
itself and this time it will totally cripple a lame bird.
The New York Times chose McCain as its preferred Republican nominee in 2008, the
kiss of death, then of course opposed him for President. When is the last time
the Times supported a Republican, much less a conservative, in a general
election. Oelection? Their financial reporters still do some good work, but it
edoens't look like their editorial people, or too many in the
"leadersip" of either party, read that. I'm old enough to
remember this when Romney's father was being considered for President and
Kennedy ran, leading to a lot of talk about his Roman Catholicism--now a lot
ofCatholics are good conservative Republicans--and one would think that, in a
country whose Constitution has always prohibited religious tests for office,
etc., we would be past this, especially when the real fight is between
Christians and Anti-Christians generally.
"Huntsman should run for Hatch's seat in the senate. Huntsman would
win."Huntsman would lose, he's a moderate so he and Hatch would
get outdone by a tea party candidate just like Bennett got taken out. I've got
nothing against Huntsman, heck I'd vote for him but his problem is... I'm a
Why Mitt can't win the Republican nomination:1) The New York Times does
not support him.2) He can't keep all hairs in place perpetually.3)
He has not shot a caribou on national TV.4) He can't play the electric
guitar.5) He is eloquent even without a teleprompter.6) Like Obama
and Hillary, he did not know when to withdraw support from a dictator. 7)
Like McCain, he wants to use the military to protect the selfish interests of
Americans.8) He supports healthy corporations, which hire workers, who
then use their disposable income to support Democrats.9) He swore once in
public, destroying the misconception that he is perfect.10) He switched
from pro-choice to pro-life rather than vice versa.
Before running for President, Huntsman should run for Hatch's seat in the
senate. Huntsman would win.Romney should challenge Obama for the
next term. Mitt will lose, but he will tire-out and wear-down the press, the
nation, and perhaps most importantly, the good people of the bible-belt - from
asking any more dumb questions about Mormons. Then Huntsman (having
gotten experience in the Senate) could then run for the presidency - on the
spent political (and actual) capital of Mitt Romney.After getting
in, Huntsman could appoint Mitt Ambassador to China.
I feel like there's a new Romney story every day and the guy hasn't even
announced his bid for presidency, not to mention the first primary is still over
10 months away. Frankly it's enough to make one think that the LDS-owned
newspaper is pulling for him.
"No matter how "conservative" Romney may try to become, he will
never make it to the Libertarian fringe."As one who leans
libertarian, I do have reservations about some of Romney's positions, but what I
like about Romney is that they guy is an intelligent, articulate, competent
leader. We haven't had one of those in a long time. I would even vote for a
Liberal Democrat at this point if I could just see that he was a competent
leader. If Obama and the Democrats had found a way to pay for the debt they've
incurred, even if it was with tax increases, I would be willing to give them
another four years, even though it's not my first choice of how to do things. At
least it would be a way to do things, but they are not even interested in that.
Romney is a guy who I would disagree with on how to do things about half the
time, but there's no doubt that he could do it, and it would get us somewhere
that everyone could agree would be a good place. Kind of like a somewhat
balanced budget under Clinton.
I marvel at the lack of ability so many people have to distinguish between a
state solution to the healthcare problem and a Washington solution to the
healthcare problem. It's as if they have never heard of Federalism at all. It's
astonishing to think that so many people are completely ignorant of such a large
part of their heritage, American Political Philosophy. Quiz time. What is
Federalism? What are Reserved Powers? They teach this stuff in 5th grade! We
have a very intelligent man in Mitt Romney who will probably be running for
President, and has the potential to do a great deal of good in this country, and
we have half of the electorate running around saying "But Romneycare is
just like Obamacare! Let's nominate Sarah Palin!" It's unbelievable. The
whole point of the Massachusets Health Care Bill is that it was done in
Massachusets. A state, under the leadership of Mitt Romney, took care of its own
problem without leaning on the Federal Government! It doesn't get much better
than this for people who are into the Constitution and limiting the Federal
Government, and yet they can't see it.
Does the Deseret News criticize the ridiculous things that have been and are
said about President Obama? I would like the D News take Orrin Hatch to task
for his ridiculous criticisms of the President. You can't have it both ways.
Romney talks out of both sides of his mouth on most issues. A typical
If Mitt Romney is worried about Frank Rich, he's wasting his time. Mitt Romney
will be taken out by the Tea Party. Not a shot will be fired.No
matter how "conservative" Romney may try to become, he will never make
it to the Libertarian fringe.
Risk-taking (especially trying to save companies that are in dire straits) is
bound to lead to some failures. It is better to have tried and failed than
never to have tried. Especially when you have a very impressive repertoire of
successes in your resume. Would the workers have been better off if those jobs
were moved overseas to avoid bankruptcy? Mitt Romney has a solid record of
success. And by the way, those who love to attack Romney for his record
on health care are off the mark. If more states were dealing with health care
issues proactively, then there would have been no nationally-mandated
Trump 2012!! He's our man! Mitt's a has been now...stay focused people, the
goal is to win the White House and the only way to do it is to bring in an
outsider...all the beltway career politicans must go...come on, join the
revolution! Kick all the bums out!!
I just can't figure out what the "harsh critism" part in the exerpt
might be. It's true that Republicans filibustered the Congress to get a 4% tax
cut for the very wealthy (at the cost of delaying votes on programs that
actually matter like health care for 9-11 first responders). As to
Republicans having a bleeding heart about the budget now, that strikes me as
hollow. When GW Bush took office in 2001, the nation debt was just under $6
trillion. When he left office eight years later, it was a touch under 12
trillion. So, he managed to single-handedly *double* our national debt, yet few,
if any, Republicans stood and made a fuss about it. Now, when Obama wants to
make health care for every American (so that insurance companies don't bleed the
people dry and them trash them when they get sick), *now* the National Debt is
such a big issue and Obama is trying to ruin our country. Yeah, that floats like
a rock.In short, I'd like to see an end to all this contention, and
Romney would have to be very convincing to win my vote, reguardless.
Wow. How many times does it need to be pointed out. This article ran in the NY
POST as well as the Times. The NY POST is a mouthpiece for the REPUBLICAN
party, much like FOX news. It is frightening that so many people are bashing
the Times here, and completely ignoring the facts about the truth of the article
-- that basically Romney doesn't have a chance because 'mainstream' Republicans
will not support him. Reminds me about the reasoning and mindset of Mormon Utah
Republican voters. Ignore the facts, vote the religion, then the party.
After doing a review of Bain Capital's history, I find that it and its
acquisitions have been mostly successful. After Mitt left and Bain Capital had
some troubles, Mitt came back and turned back around to enjoy another period of
success.If one wants to criticism him, disagree with his politics.
All politicians displease one side or the other.
Reading comments that support Romney, I'm curious how those readers feel about
the so called "O'bama Care"? Reason: O'bama Care is a knock off of
"Romney Care". Or are we all expected to overlook that and just vote
GOP? The political double standard amazes me. I hear people who
support Romney, yet deny the health care political past of Romney, not to
mention his voting policies on 'civil unions'/same sex marriage.I
guess he "did what he had too" to become governor of a liberal state.
But now what?
"People act like every article should be a pulitizer prize
niminee."Good heavens, Lambert! A Pulitzer Prize nominee? No.
But Is it too much to expect just a little adherence to basic journalistic
practices from a newspaper (and I'm using that word very generously right now)
with such a venerable history as the D-News? No matter if it is their print or
online edition.Do the editors of the Deseret News have no pride in
their work? This piece would not even be a good letter to the editor, let alone
an article from the staff of the D-News. (And my opinion has nothing
to do with the subject matter of the article, I have nothing against Romney per
se, I just think that this publication can, and should, do much better. This
article is amature hour, the Deseret News needs to hold to higher standards)
Esquire, Why Romney has to show due defference to the French is beyond
me. France continues to deney people basic freedom of religion far more than
Oklahoma has ever even thought to due, yet France is not regularly lambasted as
Islamaphobic by the MSM. I guess though since the MSM thinks it is Islamaphobic
for people to want Muslim men to be equally likely to be prosecuted for rape as
non-Muslim men, the whole issue is quite intriguing.Since this is
the article leading in popularity at the DNews obviously Jamshid Askar has
tapped into something by writting this article.
Good! Flip Floppin' Mitt needs a dose of reality.The USA will never elect
a Mormon to the White House.
You folks can slam the NYT all you like, including this rah-rah Romney
newspaper, but there is a world outside of Utah which carries just a little more
weight (i understate, in case you don't get it). Romney is no dream candidate.
In addition to watching him twist and turn on his positions, trying to please
whatever audience he stands before, and the fact I've yet to hear a realistic
constructive idea beyond lower taxes and spend more on the military
(cartoonish), Romney lost me early in the 2008 season when he verbally attacked
the very people (not government) where he served his mission, telling me that
this guy has not once ounce of compassion and love for the people he served. I
can go on, but suffice it to say, this is one Mormon who can't vote for a
Massachusetts politician for President.
I am sure that Mitt will make another failed attempt to win the presidency,
sadly he will once again be wiped out of the race. I think it would be
interesting to have a Rommney/Huntsman ticket or a Huntsman/Rommney ticket but
that would not work as their egos are both too inflated they both want to be
president and neither wants to be Vice-President. The press so far does not seem
to impressed or interested in Huntsman either so it seems at this point there is
little to no chance of a "Mormon" president, agan....
@BoringGuy 8:30 a.m.:"Mitt doesn't have a chance. His efforts
in health care reform as governor inspired Obamacare."Mitt's
health care plan is at the state level where it belongs, not at the federal
level. Obamacare will be found unconstitutional before the next presidential
election."Mitt should throw in the towel and give Huntsman a
chance..."Who's gonna elect a member of Obama's staff
(Ambassador to China) to the office of the US President?
Absolutely amateurish. Is this really what the D-News has become? Sad. Very,
@Doug10 8:01 a.m.:"He is behind Palin in national polls
though..."That's where you wanna be at this juncture. Get
ahead now and you will sink by the time it comes to cast a vote."The article does point out the GOP does little to lead or try to lead
the country..."That's because the GOP is not in charge of the
nation. The Dems are, did you not get the memo?"...other than
Obama bashing and the country is sick of that."Just following
the Dem lead of eight years of Bush bashing."Does the GOP have
a way to put people to work and create more jobs?"We can
certainly see that the Democrats don't. They have been trying for four years
and trillions of debt but we still see no results. Just debt as far as the eye
can see."Does the GOP really want to cut the spending?"They would love nothing more than to cut spending... especially the kind
of spending wrapped up in Obamacare.
Oddest "news" story I've read in the D-News for awhile. This is more
like a Twitter post than a newspaper article.
You all are so funny.. you behave as if Rupert Murdoch sits right at the
editorial table and gives the nod to whatever article comes before him. I doubt
he even had an inkling that this article was in the offing. AS for
Mitt, he is the only one qualified to do what needs to be done for America. He
is truly a gifted and wonderful man. I do believe he has a chance to get the
nod and I hope and absolutely pray he does. I can like other
candidates that are not LDS, I can dislike the political activities of some who
are LDS... I think Mitt has merit of his own outside of his religiosity. Grow up people, quit sniping and grousing just because perhaps YOU
don't like his religiosity... He is a humble, good, morally clean and very
smart man who could be a real and true blessing if people can grow up and
smarten up and become nicer.
I was not a subscriber to the print edition of the Mormon Times a year ago, I am
today. Anyway, this article shows a lot more effort than some
articles that involve just crusing around facebook that are seen in other
ryansutes, The Deseret News is meant to be a profitable enterprise. This
means they have to advance with the times.People act like every
article should be a pulitizer prize niminee. Then they also criticize the paper
for not running articles when they would have had very little backing for their
allegations. True, this is a meta-news story. The wonder of
internet publishing is you can turn out stories fast, often and do not have the
same size constraints as regular papers. I would also like to see
an end of the unjustified bagging on the Deseret News. The Deseret News still
publishes a print edition daily. This is in a state with less than 3 million
people. In metro-Detroit where there are more than 4 million people in the
Metro area, the Detroit News has cut down to only publishing a print edition
twice a week and has not published a Sunday edition since sometime last century.
News on Mitt is Utah news because he lead the 2002 Olympics. He
also was a student at BYU more recently than he was a resident of Michigan.
Lastly, the wonder of online is multi-listing.
Well, what else did you expect from the NYT? They know he is going to be the
one to contend with and see him as a threat. Game on. Go Mitt!
It's time for America to wake up and elect an adult to the Oval Office this go
around. An adult with proven success in every avenue in life.
The use of the term "great white hope" is part of the long-standing
race baiting of the NYT and others. The classic extreme was the snide remarks
where someone refered to an action of Denver Archbishop Chaput as "mighty
white". Chaput is a registered member of a Native American tribe (I
believe Cheyenne, but I could be wrong, it is a plains tribe I know) so this was
a very odd turn of phrase. With the election of Scott and West to
the House one would think race baiting would come to an end. However, it will
take much longer sadly enough. I am wondering if the NYT running
an attack ad against Romney really constitutes news. This is so normal for the
NYT it seems what would be news would be them having anything good to say about
To the Deseret News. Your stories are lacking in quality. No depth. Too slanted.
Please don't give in to the trend in news. Giving in to financial pressures and
directing your articles too strongly towards a specific audience. In doing so,
you are giving away your important role in society. Please take more pride in
your job. I believe many of your reporters have the skills. Push them and allow
them to write real articles. We need you.
"patriot", you say, "If MSNBC or the NY times is bashing you then
you KNOW you must be doing something right."You don't mention
the NY Post like it says in the article.Care to tell me who owns the
NY Post? What other media outlets does the owner of the Post own?Which side does the owner of the Post support?I'll answer for you,
Rupert Murdoch, owner of Fox News.Why is Republican supporter
Murdoch bashing Mitt, I thought it was supposed to be a liberal thing...
seriously people just because you ignore the fact that has been pointed out time
after time on this thread that the new york post is held by a dye in the wool
far right wing republican not the liberal media does not make it go away and
only serves to make you look really silly.
The fact that the far left and right both don't like him, hey, maybe he has a
chance then. Unfortunately I won't be voting for him. I would love to see that
he principles to stand up as the moderate he was/is... but instead he is moved
into the pandering zone with all the rest.Oh well....
The Left attacking one of their own. The two biggest issues of 2012 will include
Obamacare and the debt. Both domestic issues, which is a shocker. Republicans
normally run on the national scene, though as bad as Obama and the Dems have
botched it the GOP now has the lead among the voters, and real solutions on the
domestic front. Traditionally the Dems get Domestic, GOP gets foreign policy. It
is just shocking the GOP gets the lead in both.If Romney is the
nominee it is a disaster. Obamacare 2010 is nothing more then Romneycare 2004.
It removes this powerful issue from the arsenal. Romney is nominee
is just failed.
This "news story" is propaganda. If it were on the opinion page where
it should be it would be clearly identified as an opinion piece. In that case it
wouldn't be propaganda.
From the first sentence, this is an editorial. The DN is slipping fast as a
traditional newspaper, and becoming a ward newsletter. Is this the only way to
save the paper from going out of business? Is this really what Utahns want?
It's pretty funny to see people on here calling the New York Post part of the
"liberal elite leftwing media."It's also pretty funny to
see people on here claiming that Mitt is, and always has been, a die-hard tea
party conservative.This is the same Mitt whose state healthcare
reform was basically the model for Obamacare. The same Mitt who claimed he was
to the left of Ted Kennedy. The same Mitt who used to be pro-choice.
If MSNBC or the NY times is bashing you then you KNOW you must be doing
something right. The NY Times is 180 degress opposite the majority of the
country and that was born out clearly in the 2010 Nov elections. So Mitt, keep
on doing what you're doing because the Times hates you!!!
There is an ongoing vendetta from the so-called mainstream elitist, egotistical,
liberal media to continue in political mode against conservatives. Some of
these same people are anti religion, anti LDS as well. That is exactly why many
of the newspapers across the country, as well as the liberal TV news are hurting
in the polls as to their readers/viewers. I can't stomach it and discount it
completely.Go Mitt and all of the other conservatives in our
continuing battle against liberals who are attempting to destroy the United
States of America.
This is probably good for Romney. It shows that the liberal media is taking
notice of him as a serious candidate for the Presidency. With a major thumping
of his opponents in the New Hampshire straw poll and a stong second place finish
at CPAC, behind what everyone knows is not a credible candidate, Ron Paul, it
appears that Mitt is the concensus leader among all candidates for the
Republican nomination. I welcome op-ed articles like this that shows the
delusional thinking of the left toward anyone they think is a threat.
Mitt Romney ran a failed campaign in 2008 because he altered his positions on
multiple issues to pander to the far-right evangelical wing of the Republican
Party, voters who never would and never will vote for him because of his LDS
faith. Had he run honestly, remaining true to his record as a successful
businessman and good governor, he very likely would have been the moderate GOP
nominee, instead of John McCain. With the economic collapse that preceded the
election, Romney's business experience might well have boosted him past Pres.
Obama in the election.His shift on core principles and his less than
honest attempts to re-write his own positions and record make it impossible for
many of us who might have supported him to do so.With no indication of a
change of heart or approach by Romney, 2012 will end the same. Is Mitt the only
one in America who doesn't know he will never be president?
Hint to Deserent News editorial staff: the news blogs that are garnering the
most readership (and thus threatening newspapers the most) are the ones that
have the highest journalistic standards--the ones that do what newspapers USED
to do. They fill the gap left by newspapers who turned to pablum and
sensationalism.If you're trying to remake your newspaper by relying
on poor-quality blog-like journalism like this, you've just hastened your own
This is good for Romney. It shows he is a potential threat and to be taken
seriously. By the way I have never seen a poll showing Romney trailing Palin.
Romney is the only viable candidate for the GOP. Huntsman is an unknown, he
should run for the Senate against Hatch. Romney seems to be only Republican who
understands the need for health care reform. Fix health care the cost of
medicare and medicaid goes down and along with it the deficit. GO Mitt.
Frankly speaking, and not the Times or Post Guy, I am fed up with the OBAMA
BASHING! I can't stand the Liberal Think Tank Idiot! Then Again I can't stand
the piling on him about Everything! So many critisize him, but where are the
ANSWERS! Romney has them to me it seems! I am sick and tired of the bashing this
guy and that guy, it sounds like a Seventh Grade Election! Don't Vote for Sue,
she is a straight "A" student!!! Don't vote for "Jim" he
wants to get a Coke Machine in the cafeteria instead of Pepsi! It's like a bunch
of immature KIDS! I say vote for the ISSUES, and don't vote for anyone who makes
over $250,000 a year! It's a joke out there, we are at the threshold my friends,
2012 could well be THE LAST FREE ELECTION for US President this Country has! It
it isn't thrown!!! We are in serious trouble!
I'll feel sad for America the day Sarah Palin gets elected over Romney. She's
not qualified, and should't be the first female president.
The winds of freedom are blowing all around the world. America is
the greatest county in the world because we are free.We have a ton
of scared people in America who want to be guaranteed of everything. Healthcare,
jobs, money. etc.Get some courage America!!!You can
either be a tiger in the zoo or a tiger in the jungle. But only one of them is
free.Mitt is a solid guy who is trying to help us.Hopefully he doesn't give in to all the complainers in the world.Keep going Mitt.
On the other hand said: Romney's religion didn't interfere with his ability to
fulfill the duties of the high office of governor of Massachusetts....No. His ability interfered with his ability to fulfill the duties of the
office. I would not like to see him test that non-ability in a higher office.
The old accusations of Mitt pillaging companies and taking them to the Caymans
keeps surfacing. So, the rhetorical question asked by the poster..How many?
So, How many? I haven't seen any data on this, so how many? If you have the
proof, show it. I am curious to know how this keeps cropping up, yet I haven't
seen any proof, from anywhere.Put up or shut up.
You know, I'm a OTP guy when it comes to Obama.But now that I think about
it, he HAS energized the conservatives.I've not been impressed with the
GOP offerings to date, Romney included.
Bruce Van Orden- If you think the tea partiers are the extremists, you are truly
living in Fantasy Land. The extremists are the people who have given us a $14
trillion debt, 10% unemployment, 12,000,000 illegal immigrants, massive
bailouts, economic catastrophe, etc. And it WAS NOT the tea party.......
Whether you like Romney or not doesn't matter because there is a higher power
who guides the affairs of this nation. If it's meant to be, he will be the next
president. Likewise with Palin, Ron Paul, Gingrich, or even Obama himself again
for that matter.
As was stated earlier, the "liberal establishment" is allegedly
running scared from Romney. That is hardly the case. There isn't a single
person in any way claiming to be in the running for the GOP presidential
nomination that we liberals fear, certainly including Romney.Earlier
today I read Rich's original column online. It was about the difficulty each
Republican candidate would have with the albatross around their neck of various
tea party activists including Sarah Palin. Romney, as Rich claims, would have a
difficult time avoiding being brushed by the silly statements of the people on
the far right.I am a dedicated LDS member and wanted to state yet
again that we are not obligated as members to fall in line behind any LDS
headliner including Mitt Romney, Jon Huntsman Sr., Jon Huntsman Jr., Harry Reid,
and Glenn Beck.
Appreciate the post calling for Mitt to step up and be a leader.Wish
someone would in D.C. I'll admit I bought into the Obama hype (even as a
moderate Republican) because I truly thought he would bring a different
perspective and new leadership style to Washington. I am 110% disappointed in
the results.Obviously a tough job, but there has to be someone out
there moderate enough to bring together both sides for things that actually
matter and not being afraid to take their shots in the process..Defense spending needs to be cut. The US needs to stop "reacting"
to terrorism and having a "military presence" in dozens of countries
in the world, when the need to strengthen its borders, build its infrastructure,
reshape its healthcare have all become more pressing needs.
Sign me up as another person who thinks the Deseret News has "jumped the
shark" for lack of a better term..It's just one big editorial.
You don't know who is a true journalists vs. one of their "experts"
writing w/ a strong agenda.Articles are often one-sided and without
knowing the affiliations of the author how can any of what they put in print be
taken seriously - UNLESS - they fully disclose the background and affiliations
of all their new "authors".
Considering the source, the harsh commentary seems predictable and irrelevant.
Abe, you should know by now that "Utah story" is code for "LDS
story". Most of the posters here don't realize how many
businesses Romney gutted, and reincorporated in the Cayman Islands. Talk about
tax avoidance! Mr and Mrs Average pay high taxes, because the wealthy pay 15%
on their long-term capital gains AND can hide their income.Killing
the messenger (NYT and NYP) is much easier than doing research.
Love him or hate him, Mitt Romeny has been successful at just about everything
he has attempted. Politics, business, family, church and running the Salt Lake
Olympics. He is infinitely more qualified than Barack Obama or Sarah Palin. And
probably anybody else who might be in the picture....
Read his book please.
Excuse me for asking, but why is this a "Utah story"? It's about a
New York Times article on a former governor of Massachusetts who is the son of a
former governor of Michigan.
Pot, meet Kettle.This is not a news report. It's advocacy
masquerading as news. Doesn't matter which side chooses to do it, it's not
If Romney goes up against Obama in '12, we'll have four more years of Obama.
the people of this country see the news and what goes on in utah and the
church.they wont elect a lds person president of the united states of america.in
utah we break the law not obey it.mitt romney is a fine man but he is a member
of the lds church and goes all the time
Well that article was a waste of two minutes of my life that I will never get
back.What a useless article.
I think Romney makes a find cabinet member: maybe secretary of treasury or of
commerce. But I have deep concerns about him a position to set policy on
non-fiscal matters including health care, marriage, or abortion.Similarly, Huntsman Jr has proven himself to be a RINO. He is bad on illegal
immigration, weak on defense of marriage, weak on RKBA, and didn't do anything
to assert strength on protection of the unborn. Unlike Romney, I don't think
Huntsman Jr even has any significant fiscal genius. He does seem to know
Chinese culture and language well enough to make a good ambassador. But as
governor? He sailed the ship of Utah in calm seas of fiscal boom. Not much to
write home about there.Palin is a great lightning rod to upset the
leftists including the media. But with only two years as governor, I think
lacks the credentials to be on the top of the ticket. Maybe acceptable as VP,
but not as POTUS, not yet.What we need in 2012 is a real
conservative, with solid credentials and the ability to articulate the fiscal
and social conservative position with power and optimism.
"Relying on little more than innuendo and anecdotal evidence?" Isn't
that what the D-News does best?
The NY Times is an activist organization, like activist judges they do not speak
the truth because it does not serve their own agenda. This lying spirit only
produces propaganda for their agenda. The mainstream media is largely a
propaganda machine that has been wildly successful and will continue to be, if
lovers of turth do nothing.
The liberal establishment is terrified of Romney. He is a fiscally responsible
manager who would actually do something to reduce spending and balance the
budget. Progressives don't want that now do they?
As others have stated, this belongs on the opinion page or with the other blogs.
Let's face it, we don't have to like Mitt because he is LDS. As someone who
professes to be a member, I just don't get that excited about Romney. Sometimes
he can seem pretty snarky with some of his remarks about Obama. See as an
example his speech at CPAC. Maybe Ron Paul is crazy, but that is a candidate I
can get excited about because things would actually be different under his
administration. We need to get spending under control, and rambling about
earmarks and eliminating waste won't do it.
KJB1 is right. I was prepared to say what he said but read that he said it
already.And, those of you bagging on the reporting of the New York
Times are being silly. Your idea of what the Times reports and what it actually
reports are hardly similar. Editorially, yes, the times has a
definite slate. The Times gets quoted all the time by news sources across the
land, including this one. They by far, lead the way in real journalism.This article, humorously, is sophomoric. Why do I keep coming here to read you
might ask? I am asking myself that question today.
(YAWN!) The Times and the Post are relics whose time has long since passed. Let
them bellow and blather on about what they will; so relatively few people pay
attention to them anymore that it doesn't matter what they say. I'm not a huge
Romney supporter but having these two rags blast him will solidify his
conservative credentials with much of the base of his party.
@sergio, your comment puts me in the awkward position of feeling that I need to
defend a candidate whose policies I don't particularly care for. Romney's
religion didn't interfere with his ability to fulfill the duties of the high
office of governor of Massachusetts any more than Harry Reid's religion has
interfered with his responsibilities as senator or senate majority leader.
Surely you can come up with more substantial, less bigoted criticisms of Romney
Utahns must guard against parochialism when it comes to one of their own.The new wave is to take an unknown (meaning less baggage) with little real
experience and package him to all special interests. Leave no swing segment
unpitched.We elected a rock star in 2008.Romney has all the appeal
of a dinner of left-overs.Politics is not a rational endeavor. Mitt is a
decent man, moderate with a business/leadership background. He has no place in
I have to agree with those commentators who fear that The Deseret News reporting
has crossed the line from impartial, objective reporting to strongly
opinionated, biased reporting. While I don't have a problem with The Deseret
News citing its own opinion in an opinion column, to actually insert its own
prejudices directly into a news report raising grave credibility issues with any
and all future news reports, with readers wondering what small and perhaps
unnoticeable slants in future reports of any type might be included in The
I'm not sure why we're worried about what either the times or post says. This is
utah, and in the end, here at least, if or why people support mitt will be a
If this article is the kind of content this publication now supports, they need
to remove the word "News" from their name. Regardless of whether you
like Romney or think all other newspapers are liberal, this article cannot be
Re: How can it be said that Latter-day Saints love Mitt because of
his religion? Like many others, I love Mitt, don't especially care for John
Huntsman and can't stand Harry Reid.
sergio I don't buy your argument as that would mean anybody with a religious
faith could be evidence "may indicate he is too emotional and not
sufficiently intellectually independent for such high office." Wouldn't
that be Jews and Christians as well? That said I think Huntsman (maybe not
this go around) has a far better chance of being elected President than Romney
who is among the hardcore neo-cons whom I think this country will tire of as
they see that they want all burden to be borne by the poor and middle class
(cuts to disabled, cuts to education, Social Security benefits cuts etc.) while
they do their best to makes sure they don't have to likewise sacrifice. In fact
they'll want more tax cuts for the rich and use the never proven mythological
Voodoo Economics as their rational (selfishness and greed is the real motive
though). If the Neo-cons don't step up to the plate and show they are willing
to make the same sacrifices as those they are seeking to impose on the less
fortunate their day in the sun will be limited as people will tire of their
The degree to which the liberal left has gone to portray the Tea Party as
extremists is frightening. Most of the political extremists in power are on the
left. The Far LEFT. Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Boxer, Frank, Schumer, et al.Lets face it. The Tea Party is not responsible for our $14 trillion debt; 10%
unemployment; 12,000,000 illegal immigrants; economic meltdown; massive
bailouts; comatose economy, etc. The Tea Party may be the only people who can
fix these things because they seem to be the only people who are willing to do
something other than the same things that have created these problems in the
Sounds like someones afraid of Romney. Typical liberal agenda and practice.
They obviously see Romney as a big threat.
So you are all going to just ignore the fact already pointed out to you that the
post is actually owned by a dye in the wool far right republican and try to
claim its all just liberals new bias? By the way I also agree with the posters
this forth grade opinion piece belongs on the opinion page or better yet pinned
to the shirt of the child that wrote it so their parents can see what they did
at school today.
Doug10 @8:01 - You are ignorant of reality. Defense accounts for less than 20%
of the budget. Social security, medicare, medicaid, welfare & unemployment
account for more than 60% of the budget.
"In typical Post fashion," the writer says. Is this article supposed
to be news, an editorial, or an excerpt from some guy's blog? If it's news, it's
Those who think it is just politics are fooling themselves. In the minds of many
citizens there is reason for voters to doubt Mitt Romney as suitable to be
president of the United States because of his believes and devotion to Mormon
religious doctrine and questionable Book of Mormon reality that voters fear may
indicated he is too emotional and not sufficiently intellecetually independent
for such high office.
Yawn. No surprise. What do you expect from the Rainbow Image Maker Machinery of
the Leftist news agencies?
NY Times = bad?NY Post (Fox News/Rupert Murdoch) = shhhh!You're all between The Mitt and a hard spot. You love Mitt because of his
religion, but you're stymied by the far-right's bashing of him via the NY Post.
I can't take a republican contender seriously until they are libeled in the New
York Times. Their unabashed attempts to defend Obama's failures at all costs
have made the NY Times increasinly kafkaesque. Attack Mitt's
career? And how exactly, without government subsidies or criminal acts, does a
failure amass a fortune in business? Anyone who has tried to run a business
knows that the market is cruely responsive. To what, exactly, are we supposed
to attribute Mitt's fortune and reputation in corporate America? Luck?
Bailouts? At least Mitt had a job before he ran for the presidency.
I, for one, want a president who doesn't feel entitled to the weath I produce
and doesn't spend my money like a Louis XIV.
There has yet to be created, a machine that would measure my indifference to
Horribly written article. It is as bad as the Times and Post for the very reason
that though attacking their lack of evidence, it fails to provide that evidence
in support of its argument. F for a grade on all three. More importantly, a F
for the conservative movement which is starting to become irrelevant to the
majority of Americans. Much like the liberals of the 1970's who got so caught up
in their "causes" they failed to be able to appeal to moderate
Americans who lean somewhat to the right on issues, but on the left on others.
Face it, the American public will grow sick of the rhetoric by 2012 and the lack
of governance and that is what is scary. We maintain the status quo with no real
governance or handling of the issues we face such as making hard decisions on
what to reduce, what to change. People at all levels care more for their radical
beliefs than solving problems. Until we start solving real problems our country
It is easy to see who the left fears most as a potential Republican presidential
nominee. Just look at who they are trashing the hardest.The New
York Times has proven over the last few years that their opinions are wrong, and
their reporting is often little more than opinion.As others have
stated, this belongs in the Opinion section, not "news."
What most commenters here missed is that the NY Post is owned by Rupert Murdoch
and his News Corp. holdings. He also owns Fox News, the Wall Street Journal,
and other media outlets that are influential in GOP circles.The NY
Post piece is likely the first salvo in Murdoch's efforts to make sure that Mitt
doesn't get the GOP nomination. Murdoch would rather have one of his employees
(Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, or Mike Huckabee) as the nominee because he would
have so much more influence when his employee is running than if Mandate Mitt
gets the nomination.This should be a warning to Utah Republicans
letting them know that the Corporate backers of the GOP (Murdoch, the Koch
Brothers, etc...) will not let Mitt get the nomination.
Mitt doesn't have a chance. His efforts in health care reform as governor
inspired Obamacare. Conservatives will never give him a pass for that.Mitt should throw in the towel and give Huntsman a chance, who has a much
better shot. Huntsman truly has a chance at being the future of the Republican
party once people see a more moderate leader will be better.
Go Donald Trump! 2012
Note that the NY Times "article" was written by a columnist. It is
actually an opinion piece, as is the Deseret News article, which should be in
the opinion page. There it would have the same credibility as all the other
right-wing editorials it prints. But, if it is supposed to be news, it shouldn't
be an opinion piece if the DN is really a newspaper.Oh, I guess I
forgot that the DN has changed it as perations and now just wants to be a Church
To Flatlander: you got that right. Er, correct. This commentary page always
has had more fluff than meat and rice. We could have an invasion of Florida by
well-tentacled Martiansm, and BYU having a recruit caught speeding in Orem. The
recruit story will be 1,356 comments by noon, and the destruction of Miami will
have 6. 5 of the 6 comments will be in favor of the Martians! It is just the
nature of the crowd.As to Mitt's problems? He's got a few. Will he
earn the nomination? No. Try to buy it? Yes. Who will stop him? Himself,
errors, and the southern radicals of the GOP. His good work in Mass. on health
care will become an albatross around his neck to those who do not
understand the value and need of universal health care. Universal health care
saves our society money and gives us everyone pulling the wagon, so to speak.
But it will go for naught.
So we're not even pretending to be unbiased and even-handed anymore, are we?
This "article" reads like a thirteen year-old girl trying to defend
Justin Bieber. Why isn't this on the Opinion page?
Amazing how BYU-Utah sports get over 100 comments just by warming up and Poor
Mitt gets no one to come to his defense. but then, outisde of LDS members who
I am not sure why this article is in the paper. Mitt is a talking head just
like Beck and Palin but he is fighting for his political life right now. He is
behind Palin in national polls though so he has to be frustrated.The
article does point out the GOP does little to lead or try to lead the country,
other than Obama bashing and the country is sick of that.Does the
GOP have a way to put people to work and create more jobs? Bob Bennett and
Orrin Hatch say they don't. Mitt says they do.Does the GOP really
want to cut the spending? The biggest percentage of the budget is spent on the
military and yet not one of the budget proposals by Dems or GOP will addres
that. Instead they want to take from the older part of the population. Attack
medicare. Now that is brave.If this article is critical of Mitt
that is good as Mitt has yet to contribute meaningful ideas to put workers back
to work, balance a budget or to do anything other than bash Obama.Stand up, lead out, be a man.
Who cares what the New York Times prints---or anything Frank Rich has to say.