I know this is going to make a lot of people mad, but Coach Sloan is only a
MEDIOCRE players coach.Inadvertently, Jerry would find a way to lose
a significant number of games, and for sure the big ones, with the Kobes,
Jameses, Anthonys, Durrants, Shaqs, even the Jordans. He even found
a way to do it with Stockton and Malone! Those two would have had multiple rings
with the Jacksons, Rileys, Popovics, and several other truly outstanding NBA
coaches.The problem is, Jerry Sloan ALWAYS has to be in charge of
making all the decisions. He can't delegate; he has to control. Jordan would
have driven him mad!When he gets excellent players, yes, like DWil,
and lots of others, he can't handle them. The truth is, Stockton was unique, but
face it, he was not as physically gifted as Deron nor several other point guards
in the league.Sloan only kept Malone marginally under control and
that was because of Stockton. Jerry says they MADE HIM not vice-versa. And he's
absolutely right!If the Utah Jazz is be an NBA Champion, the
coaching style of necessity has to change. End of story.
with sloan gone and williams gone nobody will want to come to utah only a matter
of time before franchise may move started down once larry miller died and greg
took over i like the jazz alot but this could play out 5 or 6 years down the
road hope the break will give the team a chance to relax and come back and
regroup and make the playoffs go jazz
How did williams win two wrestling championships and play basketball at the same
time? In Utah the two sports are at the same season.
I think if D-Will did not force Sloan out. And Sloan wants what is best for the
Jazz. Then why does he not come out and say, look i left because i gave all i
had and had no more to give so i left. It had nothing to do with D-Will. It
would help all involved.
@ footballmanic | 10:12 a.m. Feb. 20, 2011Uh, duh! He didn't wrestle
and play b-ball in Utah!
Yarrlydarb--careful. You begin to sound like the Jr. Jazz coach who finally
figures out that the way to victories lies in red velvet cupcakes! For everyone!
Including the refs! I'll agree, there were a lot of players who couldn't or
wouldn't play for Jerry Sloan---but look what happened when you found a few who
could. Now we'll see who will play for Coach Dwon't. Probably lots of players.
Free wheeling--make it up as you go along--care about defense when you feel like
it--pretend to listen to the figurehead during time outs, but remember--it's
really Dwon'ts team (KOC and the Millers said so)---should be lot's of fun. And
tons of wins and banners all along the way.Well---(sigh)--we'll see.
As long as Corbin continues to give CJ his deserved minutes (35 a game) the Jazz
will start winning games again. However Corbin needs to start him at the 2
position and bring bell of the bench.CJ will average over 20 a game
with the minutes and a coach who can call plays for him.Bell can
relax on the bench and play 15 - 20 minutes a game and move CJ to the 3
position when AK needs a break.With Dwill and CJ both averaging over
20 a game, it will completley open up the middle for Millsap and AJ to do the
For all of you fans that think D-Will is going to be a Jazz player much longer
you can forget it. It's on hoopshype today that he has made comments out in La
La land the past few days of joining Stoudemire in N.Y. after next season. If I
were the Jazz he would be gone this year and preferably before the trade
deadline so as to get a PG for the future and give him some experience in the
system this year. There alot of PG available especially with D-Will in the mix
in a trade and I would pull the trigger on one this year. Look to the future
with the new staff Jazz, and see about trading C.J., A.K., and Memo while at it.
This year is all about developing but losing 2 or 3 of the players this year we
need to get a jump and get players ready for next year.
@ bgl | 12:21 p.m. Feb. 20, 2011Santa Monica, CA Hey bgl, say
something with substance, not cutesy comments. You think he could
have coached, say, Jordan?!Not on your life.Jackson did,
and how many championships did the Bulls win?!He had Shaq and Kobe,
and guess what, more championships!Facts stand alone, cutesy, red,
velvet cupcakes don't.Bottom line: Jerry in 23 years never won the
Article quote from Deron Williams: "It was frustrating because I felt like
I know I wasn't the reason Coach Sloan decided to step down," Williams
said. "If Coach Sloan calls a play, I'm going to run it."Well then, Deron, why DIDN'T you run it?I like you, amigo, but the
fact is Coach Sloan called a play and you didn't run it but called your own.True?
In order for Miles to average 20 points a game, he'd have to average a lot more
minutes than 35 and jack up 15 or 20 more shots.Williams wrestled as a
In 1993, as an eight-year-old, he won the 67 lb. weight class Texas State
championship. Four years later in 1997, he won the twelve-year-old 116 lb.
weight class championship
While it is true that Salt Lake City may be a little too clean and tame and
boring for the kind of lifestyle that today's hoopsters lead, and if winning was
more important than an L.A. or New York pay scale that most selfish players
want, with the right "lunchbox" professionalism as promoted by a Coach
Sloan, the Jazz could still be a dominating force. Finding dedicated
soldiers is the trick. They are so few and far between. Most players have been
polluted with fame, fortune and excesses. Here's an Allstar team that would have
been thrilled to play in Utah and for Jerry Sloan:Point Guard- John
StocktonShooting Guard- Joe DumarsSmall Forward- Larry BirdPower Forward- Karl MaloneCenter- Bill RussellThese tough as
nails players (just like Sloan) gave everything they had to win regardless of
the money, the city or the coach. I'd take these guys any day of the week. They
understood the game and respected the NBA more than their vain ambitions.Too bad we have to watch a bunch of self serving, Prima donna punks
instead of the old guard of yesteryear.Sloan will be sorely missed.
Miles: I see your now agreeing that CJ needs to be at the 2 position, not the 3.
With Corbins positive attitude towards CJ, and more minutes maybe,
hopefully, CJ will improve and become consistent. The Jazz need it and if AK can
stay healthy I think the Jazz can get on a winning streak.AJ has been
showing signs of improving lately and if CJ improves and AK stays healthy I have
some hope.Time will tell but I'm willing to give Corbin some time to make
I think the new CBA will address players leaving to big markets and teaming up
of star players to try to win championships. I hope they have a hard cap and
maybe a franchise tag for at least one player, maybe 2.
Yardly...: I agree that a change of coaching is probably a good thing at this
time.Coaching makes a big difference and Sloan's style has been very
successful but I'm ready for a change, I hope Corbin isn't too enamored with
Sloans style that he won't make changes. Changes need to be made.Coaches
can make or break a player and can have a major impact on their development or
lack there of.
When D-Will becomes a free agent he will do what he wants to do after the 2012
season. The Jazz has to make the best basketball decisions for the TEAM. If
there were just a way the Jazz could get the Jimmer so he could learn from
D-Will. What a combo at the guards. Not a one and two guard but just guards
like very old school. GO JAZZ!
ESPN Does have Deron going to the Knoick in 2012....hopefully he stays. It is
interesting how Jazz fans are such 'Dooms Day' fans. We as Jazz fans have been
spoiled. There is NO proof that Deron made Jerry leave. Jerry has had
disagreements his several dozen players over the years - Star, starter and role
players. Odds are it wasn't Deron. Most likely its Kevin O'Conner trading and
not re-signing the players that Jerry wants - at least that is what my inside
scources have implied. Jerry didn't think that he could win with the players
that he had, and he was right - they aren't winning.The thing is -
O'Conner needs to go and won't be gone anytime soon; and Greg Miller is cheap
and nothing like Larry.
Yep, yep, yep. ESPN Radio today was talking all about Deron to NY next year to
play with Stoudamire and Anthony if they get their deals.Anyone
See ya DW! Good luck and good riddance...What a spoiled boy...
Uh, we don't want a "players coach"!Why do you think 90%
of the teams in this league NEVER have a chance of winning? Because they have
"players coaches".All that means is no discipline.You think Popovich is a players coach?Get a clue people.
There is more talk about Chris Paul ging to New York than Deron. Paul has
publicly said that he would like to play there with Stoudamire and Anthony.
Sadly, Deron would most likely end up as a Laker before going to the Knicks.
There is also a chance he stays. The Jazz will he AK & Memo's contracts done
by then and will have lot of money for Deron and another top free agent.
Trade D Will while you can get something of value for him. Trade Memo, AK, and
Fez. Keep Gordan H. Get some shooters and front line big men who can rebound.
Keep Jefferson. Be nice to get Matthews back.
Dwill is so bad right now he can't even make a layup.
yarrlydarb, you think it is offensive for Sloan to want control then you should
go and root for Denver where the players dictate.Deron had a fight
with the coach, and the players who had witnessed other incidents thought this
one was coming to blows . 90 minutes later Sloan is done. Deron says it was
nothing..Now Deron tells the Los Angeles press that the coach was
too old and Corbin is much easier to talk to. IF he wants to talk then give him
Harprings job, the Jazz fans are looking for a leader and basketball player.I for one am tired of listening to Deron whine and tell how nothing is
his fault. Too bad Deron you had the makings and Sloan made you tow the line,
now your behavior is less than admirable as is your ability to stand up and tell
I do not think the coaching right now is the problem. Sloan did the
best that he could and there were problems. Corbin is making adjustments and
there are still problems. The Jazz need AK and Bell healthy. If they
could also get Okur at 100% they would be very tough. If Fes would get it
together it would really help.I think Corbin has made some positive
adjustments to the offense. The defense is still a problem but quality depth may
solve some of it. It may take all of this year and next for Corbin
to get everything clicking.
Doug10 - which 'players and coaches' said it was 'coming to blows'? Who said
that? When did they say that? There are all of these 'scources' - yet no one
know who they are. Everyone would agree if you have a boss that you can
relate to, if make your job easier. Corbin is easier to approach than Jerry, I
that know first hand.You talk about Deron 'talking' and wanting to talk, yet he
hasn't said much about it. Nearly ALL Athletes have a pre-Madonna' complex,
whether they be high school, college or pro; and 80%-90% of the pro athletes do.
Not just Deron. EVERYONE knows that if it came down to keeping Sloan or Deron,
the Miller Family would keep Jerry. Why? because they are about being loyal, and
Jerry is like family to them and has done SO much for the Jazz.
Trade D-will?!?Get over Sloan leaving! How long did you think he was
going to coach? Now you want to drive out D-Will? Good luck getting a top player
if he leaves! Come on Jazz fans! Support who is here! Give coach Corbin a chance
with a healthy roster!!! When D-Will was player of the month you all loved him!
Seriously, Doug10? Have you not heard D-Will accept so much responsibility for
the less-than-expected first half?I have heard nothing but straight
talk out of D-Will. I have seen nothing but effort and passion from D-Will.
Plus he is playing through his injury.AJ is the only other guy on
the Jazz roster that is ready to start for any other team in the NBA. If it
weren't for D-Will, we wouldn't even be IN the playoff hunt right now.
I hope the Jazz still run the same offense that's been so successful, but tweak
it a little bit to bring it up to today's game. Add a few more plays. My main
gripe with the system was we never guarded the 3 point shot. Also, Sloan never
called timeouts to slow down momentum, etc.
LOL. This is not a playoff contender and not a team that could go deep in the
playoffs making a serious run. The Jazz never will be. They are content to tease
their fans and go to the 2nd or 3rd round and that's it. It sells season tickets
and that is what it is good for. The Jazz want the fans in the seats paying and
don't care about a championship whatever they may claim. Proof is in the
pudding. D. Will leaves after next year no doubt. Anyone with a brain can see
that and don't blame him, he wants to win. This franchise doesn't. It would take
sacrificing 3 or 4 losing seasons by putting a champion team together and then
having to blow it up. The Jazz won't give up 3 or 4 years of losing seasons and
loss revenue for that. The fans here would quit going and paying making the
franchise unprofitable. We'll see if the Jazz organization can pull another
miracle out of their hat or if those 3 or 4 losing seasons are coming anyway.
LookD-Will is out of here.That's OK, can't blame him,
Big City, Bright Lights.However, trade him now and get something for
him, dragt picks etc.Be proactive not reactive, Jazz..Face the facts, he is outa here.