Actually this hasn't been a rivalry for a few years now.My how times
have changed.Two teams heading in opposite directions.
1 game a year will leave the rivalry going for the foreseeable future and I hope
to see some memorable moments. Hope foster steps up his game today
to keep it close.
Hope Jimmer gets his 50 today! So long Utes, enjoy obscurity in the PAC-10.2Never mind your inane comments about BYU going to the WCC. We've heard
them before.You are about to be Jimmered.
The only team saying the rivalry has waned are only those looking for an excuse
for losing so much. That just a cop our for we can't beat these guys even when
we use rivalry hatred to get us going. I guarantee the players are
up for this game today.
Two teams heading in opposite directions,90 cougar,yes,
one heading to the storied "Conference of Champions" and the other to
the...the.. I'm sorry, I forgot the name.help me out, it's that
conference that sporadically televises games at 11:30 at night...you know in
those high school gyms...Sorry I can't remember the name. But, hey,
Today's rout will be one to remember. Christmas in February.
You'd think the writer would know the difference between the Huntsman Center and
the Marriot Center. Doubt it'll make much difference to the outcome. I see this
as a Cougar feasting on a hapless Ute. Think we are getting pie after the game.
Jimmer gets 40+. Cosmo entertains. Boylen gets some more excuses. Dr Hill moves
a step closer to finding a new coach (but I think he should hold the course,
Cougars like Boylen at Utah.
I am disapointed in BYU moving to the WCC. All the years getting
"appropriate facilities" sure takes a major step backwards by going to
the "gyms" I've seen lately on TV in the WCC. The MWC has finally
some great venues.Utan & PAC 12 is a lateral move, BYU's is
down....I guess we'll have to wait and see, but the AD @ BYU will have to
produce some real magic to make this credible..... Sort of feels like Egypt
getting "Independence.?" Not sure what we got....
Jimmer and the Fredettes will make it 9 of the last 10 for BYU as the Cougars
close out their shared conference era with the Utes.
The big difference with two teams going in different directions, hedgehog, is
that it doesn't matter what conference you go to in bball. If you win, you win
and get to go to March madness, no matter what conference you are in or no
conference at all! Even if you are in the "conference of chumps", you
have to win game to get to the big dance. The diff here is that the running utes
will NOT win games and therefore will not go the the BIG DANCE. In
football you will have to win the majority of your games to go to a bowl game
and I do not see the u winning even 6 games per year.But good luck
anyway with at least saying you belong to a AQ conference, even though you never
And of course the lost little misplaced hedgehog sitting alone... lost in the
tree's on the edge of the Great Black Swamp has played his usual unchanged
melody of woe...and still... there is "No JOY" in Ann Arbor. Your
wake up call Hedgie is in Sept when the PAC throws out their old doormats and
replace them with Welcome utey and Colorado ones... Yours of course will be at
the conference back door. Feast with the Champions...usually means your the
main course. Want to place an order of San Diego style curly fries on tonights
Bye bye MWC, and hello to the big stage of Independence ! The Coug's are going
national and the potential is awesome. Independence is the proverbial "
Your Ship has Come In " and perhaps " Not looking a Gift Horses in the
mouth " is fitting as well.The BYU ESPN contract and the 6
million LDS fans around this country will prove to bring in some coin. That is
terrific. I know there are transplant UofU people scattered about who jump
around and stomp there feet in place, begging for attention sorry utes you will
claim no new notoriety. Now with that said, the utes do have a nice
NCAA Sanctioned southern division to play in, in there new PAC 12 conference.
Which could play out nicely in 2011. Oh well will the utes be-able to take
advantage of this, we shall see ?The BYU Independent Party Train is
in the station lets get on board.Oh yeah, why do any of you BYU
faithful respond to the likes of hedge & CB whats up with that anyway ?
Jealousy and envy ne'er annoy, these two are lame and simple minded hacks.POLY Cougar Nation.
While shopping this morning I actually saw a little stuffed Valentine Hedgehog.
Hedgie, if you would like I will send him to you, so you may have something to
comfort you while all your silly predictions fly out the window!
@Big HapaWhy??? Because their totally off the Wall logic is
entertaining. Especially Hedgie's...and Chrissy's predictions are sure bets in
an opposite world. She some how has crossed over into this one without
realizing that she no longer exists in her parallel universe.Got to
give them credit though...they love misery. So they'll enjoy tonights thrashing
of the UtesScoobie
"If you win, you win and get to go to March madness,"Eddie, I agree with you to an extent. If a lower conference team wins 90-95%
of there games they get a chance at the NCAA tournement.However,
these type of teams get little to no regular season coverage (typically). From
the all important "exposure" angle it will be all or nothing for the
kewgs both in basketball and football.Not sure if the tds faithfull
are mentally prepaired for what awaites them.
There are sure a lot of BYU trolls on here dogging on Utah (no surprise there I
guess). For all you supposed B-Ball superiority BYU fan (remember in the 90s
your team stunk) the series is pretty close to even (unlike Football where Utah
owns you by 20 games). Maybe your B-Ball team can someday come close to
matching Utah's NCAA Tournament Record (Many final 4s, Elite 8s , NCAA Runner Up
and NCAA Championship); until then I wouldn't be so prideful as your team post
season record is pathetic at best. Enjoy this year because that is all you have
and then next year be sure to enjoy the obscurity of the WCC little brother.
hedge,This is an honest question. If the Utes couldn't win a title
in the lowly MWC how will they fare in the conf of champions. BYU currently
wins 1/2 of all MWC titles and Utah wins 1/10th.
hedgehogTwo teams headed in opposite directions.One to
big conference bottom dweller.One to national prominence.Utah's new conference affiliation won't bring the Runnin' Utes back to
life.And BYU's new conference affiliation will simply mean more
exposure and better television coverage for the nationally respected program
Dave Rose is building at BYU.
"Bye bye MWC, and hello to the big stage of Independence ! The Coug's are
going national and the potential is awesome. Independence is the proverbial
" Your Ship has Come In " and perhaps " Not looking a Gift Horses
in the mouth " is fitting as well"Big Happa,You realize byu is not independent in basketball don't you? Nope, because of a
lack of leverage and clout they were FORCED to downgrade from the MWC to the WAC
and finally to the cellar.I forgot the conference name (SWAC?) but I
do know that from a national prespective it's completely of the radar when it
comes to respect.
@Rock of the MarneYepper... those 20 games way back when. But it just
wasn't fair that you uteys hauled in all that manure and spread it on our side
of the pasture. We kept expecting to get a drink of milk during those games
That's why we kept carrying that old Oak bucket around. Too bad your last 50
years weren't as good as your first 50.
pebble of the marnegrow upthere is no such thing as
trolling an article about your own teamthe only thing BYU care about
is enjoying this season and seeing how far Jimmer can carrying this
exceptionally exciting BYU teamas far as Utah's ancient history,
enjoy those old scrap books, it'll help take your mind of the ash heap that is
now the Utah basketball program
I am really looking forward to the game today. If I lived close, I would be in
the stands. I see the Cougars taking this game by 20. For the
poster above that thinks BYU will be playing in the High School gyms of the WCC?
What is the average seating in those games? Are they full? What's the
difference between filling a small gym or seeing a larger gym near empty? The
biggest difference is the value that comes from the gate. Teams need the money.
BYU will continue to have a loyal following and the MC brings in alot of gate
revenue. Go Cougars!
Hedge,are you calling Gonzaga and St Mary's insignificant? Because,
last I checked both of those teams carry as much clout as any team in the
"Conference of Champions" this year. The Utes are going to where they
belong. A conference that is more focused on Research and patting themselves on
the back, then they are about sports. The PAC is the new Conference of the Past.
Good luck, your best days are behind you! The Cougars are looking to the
Future, and the Future looks GOOD!!!
Ah, wedgester, that is the WCC, yes I know it.Um, half of our
conference games will be played at... wait for it... almost there... the Marriot
Center. Not a high school gym. And all of them will be available for national
broadcast on ESPN.Not saying they all will be. But,How
many games this year do you think (um, do you think?) would be adjusted to prime
time and picked up by ESPN IF the Cougars weren't hog-tied (no relation) in the
dark wasteland that is the MWC television deal?Considering what BYU
has coming back next season, I will predict, here and now, with great courage,
MARK IT DOWN!!! BYU will get far greater national coverage in basketball next
year than Utah.And that is allowing for all the regional televised
games of decent PAC 10.2 teams wupping up on the Utes.And in
football? I dare say next season, you will block all four ESPN channels because
of all the BYU football coverage. Seriously, I will be cheering
against USC, even when Utah is playing them.
@AK CougarDon't worry about that guy. After Arizona and Arizona State
left and went off into obscurity in the PAC. BYU pretty much carried the WAC in
football and credit Utah's basketball program helped also to build and carry the
conference. Both did the same for the MWC. The big difference now... is that
Utah will fade into obscurity behind USC, Oregon, STANFORD and probably
Washington in both programs...while BYU will be a big factor in building up the
West Coast Conference.Scoobie
Oh yes...have to differentiate for those nitty pickers. I'm saying BYU will no
doubt help build the WCC in basketball. Football independence for BYU is a
given financial boon...even without the BCS. BYU Football will not be held back
but will flourish.Scoobie
Wedgie BYU will get little to no regular season coverage in the WCC?
How many times has Gonzaga been on ESPN this year - 15, 16, 17? I don't know,
I've lost track. How many times will Utah be on ESPN next year - 0, 1, 2? My
bet is on 0. Oh well, nobody watches the yewts anyway so who cares - right?
Even in your best year BYU fans (by evidence of their posts) can't quit
obsessing about Utah; very sad and little brother like of you. Worry about
actually doing something come March and quit it with your inane drivel about
Utah. Can't be happier Utah's leaving you all behind. Your team will most
likely win tonight but youll still be insecure enough to come on the boards and
smack on Utah; thats just due to you inferiority complex; trust us, we know how
you are. Thank goodness it ending in some ways after tonight.
So, Hedgehog, tell me the difference in playing a game in a sold-out 6K gym and
playing in the Huntsman with an anemic 6K in attendance.
"How many times has Gonzaga been on ESPN this year - 15, 16, 17?"Moutainman,Sounds like this cable thing is a little new to
your mountainman ways. Let me ask you, Do you think the entire nation watched
Gonzaga play 15,18,17, 10,000 games this year?Funny, for all these
games on ESPN I typically only see Duke, Kansas or Big 10 games in my
"neck" of the woods.
I for one would like to see Jimmer get himself a new personal best for scoring,
and send the Utes off with a fond memory of the Cougs and the MC. A great team
goal for today would to be to get every player that suits up for the Cougars in
double figures in scoring. I think that is a reachable goal against Utah.GO COUGARS!!
Big Happa...You just responded to Hedgie and CB too!You are just like the
rest of your guys.
Anyone else notice that this game is at BYU, yet it's being played in the
Huntsman Center? Major typo there.I told the guys at church ball
today BYU would win by 30. Go COUGS!
The thing that would really kill the haters would be an upset by UNLV over SDSU.
It most likely won't happen, but it would be great to hear some cricket noises
from the haters.BYU win, SDSU loss, and a Wisconsin win over OSU = a
great basketball day.Gotta love this time of year.
Um. Rocky, when BYU fans are reading a BYU article and are posting on a BYU
article, and Utah fans are there talking smack, I think you should reconsider
who is obsessed with whom. Now I will admit, on slow cougar days, to
occasionally trolling a Utah article. Could that possibly be it? U guys are
having a slow news day? Prety much ever since the biggest day in college
football in the state of utah?Thought so...
The only question is will BYU put up 100 on the hapless Utes? Or will Jimmer
score a personal best 50? That's what I'll be hoping for. I also hope that
nobody transfers from this Utah team. Ever. The football gods on the Hill sold
the basketball soul to the Pac-12 devil and I predict Utah basketball will never
recover. Basketball on the Hill is almost over. Football is King. Goodbye.
You're about to get Jimmered.
What rivalry? BYU will make it 9 out of the last 10 today, and the Utes haven't
been able to keep it within 20 on their own court lately. Wyoming has been a
bigger rival than the Utes lately.
@wardu | 12:07 p.m.Why do you want SDSU to lose before the Cougars
play in San Diego? It would be much better for BYU's RPI if San Diego is
unbeaten except the two times they played the Cougars. If BYU beats the Aztecs
at home they will be a lock for a #2 seed in the tournament.
@Repblue, True, but I do not believe a possible 2 seed depends solely on RPI,
but simply BYU taking care of its business. I just tend to root for the
underdog, unless that underdog is Utah.
"Two teams heading in opposite directions. "Not for
long.1. Jimmer will graduate and that'll drop BYU significantly (they'll
still be good but more like a normal year). 2. Utah can't really get any
worse than they are right now. Honestly, I'm a Ute, and I'm going to watch the
game to see if Jimmer drops 50 on us.
BYU's RPI will be unaffected by the outcome of the SDSU-UNLV game since BYU
plays both teams twice.Of course, it would probably be more
impressive to the selection committee if BYU was the only team to beat the
Aztecs before selection Sunday, but the real plus to UNLV beating SDSU would be
putting BYU in position to win at least a share of the regular season MWC
championship even if the Cougars lose at SDSU.--------------------btw, BYU fans, it's time we just started
ignoring the Utah fan rants about conference affiliation.As we all
know, being in a major conference doesn't mean anything unless you actually do
something.NOBODY considers Duke or Kentucky elite college football
programs, or Washington State or Nebraska elite college basketball programs.Until Utah actually wins a PAC 12 championship in football or
basketball, all of their bluster is nothing but hot air.For a
football program that has only won 6 WAC/MWC championship COMBINED in the last
50 years, winning a PAC 12 conference championship could take years if not
Rock Of The MarneWhen this article is on the BYU boards and the BYU
fans are responding to our resident Hedgehog Troll, that does not make them
Trolls. Now ... if they were to come over to the Utah boards and start
unprovoked chest-thumping THEN you could have a valid complaint.Furthermore, YOU writing "Maybe your B-Ball team can someday come close
to matching Utah's NCAA Tournament Record (Many final 4s, Elite 8s , NCAA Runner
Up and NCAA Championship); until then I wouldn't be so prideful as your team
post season record is pathetic at best" sounds a bit Trollish -- not to
mention hypocritical and insecure.
All I can say is that now is a great time to be a Cougar fan. BYU has beat
seven teams this season that are currently listed in ESPN's Bracketology (UTEP,
13; Vermont, 15; SDSU, 2; USU, 9; Arizona, 5; UNLV, 8; and St. Marys, 7). Their
two losses come to a #9 seeded UCLA and a bubble team, New Mexcio, with both
losses coming on the road. I expect Jimmer to have a quiet night (only
about 30 points), and some of the reserves will get a shot to make some noise.
It would be great to see Rogers drop 20 on the Utes and Davies have a double
double. The Cougars have found a nice way to leave the conference (by
destroying teams like Utah).
fresongril,this article is on the Ute pagesmooches
I know you should never feed the troll, but can you honestly argue that the
PAC-10 is better at basketball than the MWC or WCC? The PAC-10's best team is
Arizona. The same Arizona that BYU destroyed earlier in the year. Regardless of
arena size, St. Mary's, Gonzaga, SDSU, and BYU are much better than any PAC-10
Living for 20 years in the shadow of the University of Washington and being
subjected to 950 KJR Sports Radio, I can tell you that there is no more whiny,
arrogant, or entitlement-mentality conference--or fans--than the PAC-whatever.
In the past few years they have been mediocre at best, but that doesn't get in
the way of their self-regard. Usually "PAC" stands for
"Prejudiced, Arrogant and Classless." Lately the P is for
"Pathetic." The UofU will fit right in. Enjoy your new home. You
will now get a mouthful of what it is like to be universally despised in your
conference. Washington State is thrilled to not be the fair-haired stepchild
Woops--I meant "red-headed step-child."
Some of those shots we really couldnt do anything about, said junior Will
Clyburn, who led the Utes with 23 points in the loss to the Cougars. Were
looking forward to the next game at their place. Were going to get them.Get them what, late Christmas presents? Early birthday gifts? Get Jimmer
to a new personal best in scoring? That sounds about right.
Y 107 U 79 JF 50.
hedgehogIt's on both (obviously) since it is about BOTH teams.
Please stop trying to kiss me.
PSHope you enjoyed the game.... I know I did.
WA_Dad&AlumYou're Wrong The Big Ten's border war between
Michigan and Ohio State totally outdoes the entire PAC. They drive each other
off the roads, turn cars upside down and set them on fire and start shooting
real bullets at each other around here. The PAC is a pathetic little bunch of
whimps in comparison... so yes Utah will fit right in. right on the bottom of
Where's Stockton ??? That is gig talk from a fan of a team who cannot get
invited to a big time conference. Regarding Big 10 football, it was mighty weak
this year so please dispense with the big and badness of said conference. Ive
been to Ohio; hope I dont have to go back.
BYU smack talk never gets old. Just remember that the "number 7 team in the
country" was tied to us coming off a loss to san diego st by 30 at your
place with 6 minutes left. If anything you should be talking about your own team
and just how over rated you really are.
utah is walking out of the conference CU Buff style, with the door slamming on
their tails on the way out. BYU is walking out of the conference
slamming the door (in as much a Christian way as possible).