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Published: Tuesday, Feb. 8 2011 6:27 p.m. MST

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Brother Chuck Schroeder
A Tropical Paradise USA, FL

Who needs a "head-count" of illegal's, when thanks to Hatch and Bennett there all over the place?. Now State Senator Luz Robles, along with many other crooked colleagues associated (and some not typically associated) with Sutherland Institute, developed the idea of an "accountability card" for undocumented immigrants living in Utah. SB 60. While Senator Orrin Hatch is certainly a very kind and decent man who is well-liked by his peers, he has also been a politician who has at times gone with the will of the entrenched political establishment instead of the will of the voters of his state. Did the Deseret News received an e-mail from Tea Party Express chairman Amy Kremer that quickly backpedaled away from Russo's de facto endorsement of Hatch?. The only real Utah illegal immigration solution is to round them all up and then deport them all. NOTHING ELSE will ever work. Obama has raised taxes more than 20 times. Ninety percent of all the tax cuts he ever signed into law are temporary. So, if you plan on living for two years, he has cut taxes. If you plan on living beyond two years, their permanent. Remember that.

sally
Kearns, UT

Partisanship? It is called money! If the business community can hire at low wages they will continue to do so. Legislation will not stop them until the fines and penalties are high enough for them to make changes.

CJ
Murray, UT

The Robles plan is a monument to stupidity. Give one group of lawbreakers a permit to break the law? That is supposed to be "smart"? One group doesn't like the current laws they are breaking so the solution is to let them break those laws until we can change them to their liking. And this is some kind of brilliant solution? How in the world can Utah override the Federal government and pass it's own partial amnesty bill to make the self serving members of the Utah CON PACT happy? The one group that doesn't seem to matter to all of these enlightened folks is the only one that matters, the people of Utah, who simply want the law enforced.

Emophiliac
Vernal, UT

I just can't wait to see what the fiscal note is going to be on Roble's bill. One would have to presume taking over the Federal Immigration business will cost more than $11 million. But, somehow, I suppose that money must be found to keep the 110,000 illegals working while 100,000 legal Utahns keep getting paid to do nothing. Businesses that want to hire illegals should be required to pay a premium price for them, as compared to a Utahn that isn't productive. After all, it must be worth it, else they wouldn't want to do so. (Or do they just want to pay as little as possible?)

Brother Chuck Schroeder
A Tropical Paradise USA, FL

Here's my observations about the Nation, and Utah's illegal immigration problem, we can't support them any longer, shut down all Public Schools, get back to Home Schooling, round up and deport them all. Let your legislators know. Of the longer-term problems in state and local governments' budgets, none looms as large as underfunded pensions for public-sector employees. Estimates for state pension underfunding range from $700 billion to $3 trillion because of disparities in calculating future returns on investments. The funds investments took a bad turn during the financial crisis, and many struggling states cut their contributions to pensions during the economic recession to save money and avoided cutting vital programs when their tax revenue collapsed. As they seek to reduce a projected $1.5 trillion federal budget deficit, congressional lawmakers are concerned that states will turn to them for help in keeping pension promises. Some conservative leaders are going so far as to suggest states be allowed to declare bankruptcy, which they cannot do currently because the U.S. Constitution recognizes them as sovereign governments, so they can renege on pension agreements.


Like it or not, that's still my views.

John C. C.
Payson, UT

Our immigrant neighbors, both documented and not, actually create more jobs than they take. They take fewer jobs than we think because they find the jobs that most of us are leaving vacant. They and their families are tax payers and consumers, leading to more jobs for us. Some of them even start businesses and hire us natives.

It was our mistake to label them illegal, so let's encourage the US to change the visa laws. Meanwhile, be more compassionate and consider them refugees from poverty and corruption.

Brother Chuck Schroeder
A Tropical Paradise USA, FL

Re: John C. C. - 8:38 a.m.
Payson, UT
"It was our mistake to label them illegal, so let's encourage the US to change the visa laws. Meanwhile, be more compassionate and consider them refugees from poverty and corruption."

Reply: First off. You wanna see the real America, then turn the news off every now and then, get out of your comfort zone's, and go see what a beautiful county we have. That belongs to us American's, not illegal's. I guess your one of those "compassionate" left wing liberal that is so far to the left, you fell off our planet already, we American's are not here, to stand in a long line, holding hands, singing "we are the world" yet, and, hopefully we won't ever have to either. As I have said already, we can't support them any longer, shut down all Public Schools, get back to Home Schooling, round up and deport them all. Let your legislators know. Stop acting as if they are your pet chia pet's, and want to water them, feed them, watch them grow, keeping these law breaker's here, just report then deport.

Neanderthal
SLC, Utah

"Now is the time for courageous men and women to stand up and insist upon a bipartisan, truly Utah solution that will serve as a model for the nation."

Any solution must include deportation. Otherwise, we have amnesty. In which case we may as well hand out citizenship papers at the border and avoid all the immigration falderal.

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

Good try! Obviously Mr. Mero is doing his best to justify lawbreaking, but it WON'T WORK!

Exactly what makes Ms. Robles' or Mr. Mero believe that illegal workers will register for anything? If the illegal aliens were actually going to "register", WHY DIDN'T they do that in their homeland and arrive here through the front door?

If the bill DID PASS would Ms. Robles' or the Sutherland institute use THEIR resources to deport anyone who didn't register for a "guest worker" program?

Didn't think so!

The "Utah Compact" is nothing but a smokescreen meant to stay with the status quo!

Mr. Bean
SLC, Utah

@John C. C. 8:38 a.m.:

"They take fewer jobs than we think because they find the jobs that most of us are leaving vacant."

These jobs are 'left vacant' because illegals are willing to take less pay, thus driving wages down. Kick illegals out and the wages for 'jobs Americans won't take' will rise and become viable work for Americans who need fair wages to live on. Right now idled American workers can make more on unemployment benefits than they can by taking jobs with wages depressed by immigrants (legal or illegal).

"It was our mistake to label them illegal..."

OK. So, let's change the label to 'fake documented immigrants.' Illegals need some kind of documentation to get a job.

Hellooo
Salt Lake City, UT

Mr. Mero I guess your institute's solution must be the "right" solution. At least that is the premise of your article. Please open your mind that it may not be so.

LOL
holladay, utah

I'm waiting to see who will be the first neocon on the block to start whining about a person's Constitutional right to hire undocumented workers.

After all, Mitt Romney has already broken the ice on this and got away with it.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "LOL | 10:50 a.m." you really have had too much of that liberal Koolaid that you drink.

If you bothered to read the Constitution, you would see that Congress has the right to regulate commerce. Part of that regulation includes fair employment practices and regulations. The Constutional authority given to Congress allows it to create laws prohibiting the hiring of illegal immigrants.

Please stay off the Koolaid, and learn what a neocon is. Just a quick reminder, NEOCONS are LIBERALS who use guns to spread liberalism.

Alfred
SLC, Utah

@LOL: "After all, Mitt Romney has already broken the ice on this and got away with it."

Romney didn't hire illegals. The contractor who mowed his lawn hired them.

Using your logic, the government has also hired illegals and gotten away with it.

Utah Businessman
Sandy, UT

@Proteos

So you are saying that if I have a contractor come in to fix my washing machine, fix my car, take care of my yard, dry-clean my clothes, etc., etc., etc., I am supposed to spend a few hours per week of my time to check out every contractor to make sure that they do not hire any illegals? Perhaps you are a PI who could do that for me for a few hundred $ per contractor--oh, wait a minute, I would need to check you out, too, to make sure that YOU are not hiring illegals.

Please!!!

Lectori Salutem
Beautiful Salt Lake Valley, Utah

Every time I read about this "accountability card" I don't know whether to laugh or cry. An accountability card to allow law breakers (illegal aliens and those who knowingly hire them) to continue to break the law? Really?! Utter nonsense!

In my opinion Sandstrom's bill needs to become law along with Herrod's upcoming E-Verify bill and Mayne's bill dealing with the independent contractor problem. Those three would make a significant impact on the problem while the Mero-Robles bill would aggravate and perpetuate it. With illegal immigration on the upswing, we'd be rolling out the red carpet for more of the same. The fraudulent document mills would make a fortune churning out "proof" that new arrivals had been here for years to qualify for the "accountability card."

I'm tired of the double standards. Why do illegal aliens and their greedy employers get to break laws with impunity while the rest of us are expected to honor the rule of law?

We need hold "accountable" all law breakers and those law makers and others who facilitate this. Anyone else smell the stench of greed and corruption?

LOL
holladay, utah

My how the irate neocons freak when you remind them of Mitt Romney's shady dealings with undocumented workers. Second to his infamous "God hasn't spoken to man since Moses" quip (defying all Church tradition) his lame illegal cover-up when he got caught breaking the law and hired illegals, will haunt him always.
Bring on Gingrich and Palin. Now there is a winning duo.

LOL
holladay, utah

"Romney didn't hire illegals. The contractor who mowed his lawn hired them."
This is as lame as saying:
"I didn't shoot that person (with a state handgun)- the gun did."
A never-ending source of amusement these neocons are.

marathonman
Heber City, UT

Am I the only one who finds the Sutherland Institute's complaining about partisanship a bit ironic?

Pot, meet the kettle you've helped forge.

anti-liar
Salt Lake City, UT

Notice how it isn't so easy to put your finger on exactly what Mr. Mero is saying. This is because he knows that he must walk an exceedingly fine line between CONCEALING his true agenda (since he knows it would be rejected by the people), and selling you on it. The Utah Compact is exactly the same way: it tortures itself in an effort to convey a message without ever explicitly stating what it is. In the latter instance, it is an affirmative of amnesty, pro-illegal invasion and occupation, pro-illegal employment, and anti-enforcement of immigration law. But it never, EVER mentions this nor the word "illegal" SPECIFICALLY. They know that they must instead very carefully cloak it in a fluffy veneer of compassion and imply that the issue is about immigration when they know that the issue really is about ILLEGAL immigration.

Even more cynical is the "break-the-law permission card" that the "worker privilege" and "driver privilege" cards essentially are.

Make no mistake: the intent of the proposed "worker privilege card" is to CIRCUMVENT immigration law primarily in order to please the greedy businessmen who want the illegals here for their cheap labor.

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