Remember that there were 4 players not counted in the Rivals and Scouts tally.
They included Shreeve and Jake Murphy who decided to go to the U instead of
BYU. I like the players that we have and the coaches on the hill do a
great job building these players as attested by 3 all Americans and the NFL
draft. Brian Blechen was a qb and ended up a all American freshman team as
a safety. As far as the QB question I'll leave that up to Norm , but that Robles
kid looked good and Wynn should have his arm ready come fall. Shreeve was
drafted by the Blue Jays and has a wicked fast ball. Over all ? A good
crop of restocking the shelves.
It seems like Utah lost out on more players this year than in years past, but
that's because they were competing at a higher level of competition. They had a
good shot to get some players that never would have considered the U in the
past.This is still one of the best recruiting classes the U has ever
had, Rivals ranked the U at #4 in the nation at RB which was their biggest
concern.Like Coach said, the Utes are not done yet, there are still
some good players out there and the Utes will nab up some of those.
The DB's we signed are impressive, so are the RB's and the WR's. Our defensive
backfield wasn't as strong this past season (outside of Blechen) compared to
other years but the guys we signed like McGill and others have that rare
combination of size and athleticsm like we had with Sean Smith, Robert Johnson,
etc a few years ago.I think we'll be very good defensively in a few
seasons once they get up to speed. I think this is a great class for the needs
that it addressed and the caliber of players we got to fill those needs.
You know what MiP and RBN I actually agree with you both. utah does have a
record of turning a good percentage of their players into nfl quality players.
That cannot be denied. My guess is that they will once again do that exact same
thing with several of these guys. I agree with RBN that ultimately I
am not convinced that these rankings are all that meaningful. As was noted in an
article a few days ago BYU signed two 5 star recruits, considered to be the very
best at their positions, a few years ago. Neither player ever turned out to be
any good at all. Both transfered and both are now out of football completely. At
the time they were signed they could have signed with any school in the entire
country.It is one thing to have talent and athletic ability. it is
another to become great players. I wonder how much difference there is in the
athletic ability of some 5 star recruits and some 3 star. My guess is not much.
What matters now is what the player does to become great and the coaches do to
help him become great.
@RBN"He's beat PAC10 teams in the past with allegedly lesser
talent."It's a big difference sneaking up on a Pac 10 school
when they're preparing every week for a tough conference foe and we're taking it
easy playing teams like Wyoming, UNLV and Weber St. That allows Kyle a great
opportunity to gameplan ahead for big games.When we're playing a
tough Pac 10 schedule EVERY week and facing that grind of going up against
bigger, stronger, faster and deeper teams EVERY week we won't have the luxury
anymore of sneaking up on anybody. It will have a cumulative affect.Hopefully after a few years of recruiting as a Pac 12 school we'll have enough
depth in our program to be able to handle the grind. We may have a few good
players in our starting lineup who could start for other Pac 12 schools but the
big difference is they have 2nd string guys capable of starting on our team
while our 2nd string guys wouldn't make their scout team.
But of course no one "bailed" on BYU. After all, BYU is the most
"popular" university in America. Utah is the most wired campus in
America and has over taken MIT for the # 1 spot in the amount of economic
development it fosters but the poor old "U" can't win a popularity
contest. Sounds like Jr. High School.
If you think that not getting 4-5 Star athletes is not important you are
destined for mediocricy (See Arizona). Utah has done great in MWC and they have
beat some PAC-12 teams along the way but now you replace MWC teams with PAC-12
teams it is a step up. You enter the conference with Colorado who is in full
ramp up mold adding coaches with very strong ties to California and Texas. Chow
was a great hire so the competition is going to be fun. Just need to get a
4-star QB and 2 4-star CB's because the speed difference this the conferences
will be the issue. Just can't play power Football each week.
Duckhunter ; Pay Attention !As did pommee who bailed and went to
asu. Pommee went with Henderson to USC because they wanted to flock
together. To much lead shot .. it's affecting your brain cell
Ducky,What does ranking recruiting classes accomplish? ESPN's
recruitng ranking has Florida State at #1. Will that translate into wins.
Probably not. Tennesse and North Carolina are in the top 15. They still will
not be good teams.You gotta have a coaching staff to turn talented
players into effective players. Whittingham has a track record for that. TCU,
BYU, and Boise State all do a great job of creating a team with two and three
star players, and a heckuva lot less money than the glam teams.Utah
will be just fine.
Re: duckhunterYou were correct in identifying Utah recruits that
"bailed and went" to other BCS football programs. I
suspect that BYU had 100% acceptance of their offers!! After all, according to
Rivals, 5 of 19 BYU signees had an offer from another school!! And of the 17
offfers those 5 recruits received 3 were from a BCS school! (Yes, the U was one
of them with an offer to Ryker.)I did wonder where the recruiting
services rank the Y's recruiting results but I could not find them listed
This is a praiseworthy class. They desperately need to get another QB. The strength seems to be LB, OL, and DB's.I like the
backs.But we know it's foolish to compare Ute and BYU recruits.
Both schools target different players.Utes can't afford to lose good
players to other PAC 12 teams.But, as I said, this is a praiseworthy
class. Things will get better soon as the recruiting mindset shifts away from
beating BYU to beating USC.
Duckhunter is right, to some degree, as pointed out by the rankings posted on
Red Roundup. ESPN's Ted Miller gave them a C+ and Bob Condotta of the Seattle
Times gave them 7th in the PAC-12; technically, that would be the "bottom
half". But the Ute faithful on here are also correct to crow
about this class, to some degree. This appears to be one of the better
recruiting classes the U has seen.So "average" nationally
or not, if it's still better than the Utes have had, under Whit they should
become even better.I'd love to see that show up against SC.Go Utes!
I also love it when you care so much about my opinions that you comment on them
big ben. Don't forget dante and the lowest level as you seem to have an
appointment there. LOLAs far as utahs recruiting class is concerned,
well it is slightly above average but not good enough for the crowing ute
"fans" are doing. By all acocunts it ranks in the bottom half of the
pac10 and just barely cracks the upper 50% of all classes.I find it
extremely funny to read all of you trying to convince each other how good it is
when by all accounts it is pretty average.
SoCalUte. There's only 120 teams in Division 1 so ranking 275 or 220 would be
impossible. I get your point though. GO UTES
Recruiting class rankings by the media is a JOKE.In 04 and 08 when the
Utes went undefeated and busted the BCS. What was the Utes national ranking by
the media? Maybe 275th in the nation. What was TCU's recruiting class ranking 4
years ago when this years seniors were all recruited? Maybe 220 in the
nation?The media has a mighty big opinion of themselves, if they think
they can see the future of every kid that is recruited out of high school in the
country.All Whit needs, is the 3 and 4 star recruits that he got, and he
will turn them into 5 star NFL prospects.Half of the players that Utes
lost will turn out to be mediocre in the end anyway. Therefore, Nothing lost.Go Utes!!
What a great day it is when little brother coug fans have to highlight Utah
losing players to USC, UCLA, Washington, ASU and Ole Miss to make themselves
feel better. None of these players had a thought about playing at BYU by the
way. There must not be anything exciting to talk about with their
own recruiting class and the move to independence. Losing recruits
to good programs sure beats losing them to teams in the MWC, WAC and
Independents. Move on Coug fans, most of us no longer care about
It makes me feel good when DuckHunter wanders over to the Ute articles to tell
us how bad things are at the U. The more he talks, the more he is shaking in
his boots, and the more jealous he is.
If you get every player you want, then you probably aren't aiming high enough.
Good luck next year, Utah.
A closer look at "the point". We lost a few recruits we were hoping
to get. (We still have 4 scholarships to use before August!!) We
"lost" two players signed by USC. (These were not players USC had
"showed" interest in. They were signed by USC.) One of these was a
"soft commit" to Utah. We also had players decommit and go to
Washington and Mississippi. What we did do was sign a recruit who decommitted
from another PAC-12 school that rated higher by Scout than any other recruit we
signed. By most accounts already we have perhaps the second best signing class
in Utah history. Since being accepted into the PAC-12 we signed only 3 or 4
star recruits. Utah was listed by over 300 of the top high school players as a
"school of interest". There were 1,000 Utah fans at the signing
announcement and more wanted to attend. We have reached new heights and the
future is exciting. Can't wait for 5 PAC-12 conference games in Salt Lake next
Hey Duckhunter,How did that Ben Olson kid work out for you?Whittingham has an eye for talent, and the ability to make the players into
NFL players. He's beat PAC10 teams in the past with allegedly lesser talent. I
like his chances in the PAC12.
@hawkeyeAs did brown who bailed and went to washington. As did
henerson who bailed and went to usc. As did the philanderer who bailed and went
to mississippi. As did pommee who bailed and went to asu. As did.....You get the
He didn't bail, he was already a soft commit to asu.
AltaHawkFan,FYI - Eubank bailed on the U and signed with Arizona
I know a lot of Ute fans are feeling great about this recruiting class,
especially Langi, as well they should. Langi should have a solid career. ESPN
ranks the recruiting class 8th in the PAC12. As expected, they are ahead of
schools like Washington State and Colorado. I'm not a Ute hater,
like some, but I think they are going to struggle to keep up with USC, Oregon,
Stanford, Cal, and Arizona. I can see them finishing in the middle of the PAC
which will not get the Utes as much attention as they've gotten as a potential
BCS buster the past few years.But I will cheer for them in every
game, except one.
Very exciting to sign high ranking talent especially at QB ... Eubanks and Brown
will be outstanding QB's in the future !