re: Just the FAX | 5:33 p.m. Feb. 1, 2011 What happens when the BYU
offense stalls and all you optimists are calling for Brandon's & Jake's head
on a pike?re: Sportfanatic | 5:44 p.m. Feb. 1, 2011 "Look how many BYU past players and alumni there are that are helping
make the Utes a very quality program! Go BYU! they know how to produce not only
great players, but also great athletes!"The operative word is
BYU *had* great players & *knew* how to produce... But that was all thanks
to the OC LaVell had. What was his name? Oh yeah, Norm Chow!Insert
Nelson Muntz catch phease here!
Everyone's in love with Cahoon and he is totally unproven as a receiver's coach.
There is a big transition from doing it well yourself to teaching and leading
others to do it. Anae failed in part because of his lack of experience. Everyone
remember how excited we were to have him? Ty or Steve Young would be no
different. Seems we lose our heads over some 'star' getting a position leading
the team. Here's a new idea: let's look at which programs have what
we like in terms of coaching style, culture, outcomes and hire from those
programs. Businesses do it, other teams do it to BYU; let's think like a real
top tier program!!!And while we're at it, if Bronco really wants to
coach the D so bad, let's make him the D coordinator and go find a real HEAD
It is no one elses business if an individual goes on a mission or not. Going on
a mission is not a requirement to go to heaven, attend church, hold meaningful
church callings, attend BYU, have a temple recomend or participate in anything
the church has to offer.Frankly Big Hapa probably means well but it
is simply none of his business.
Making kids go on a mission or punishing them for not going infringes on their
free agency. Free agency is a basic tenet of the gospel. Infringing on it is
definitely not "representing well".Let's just remember
who's plan it was to compel others to obey....
Hapa and Wiley:I'm still not quite following you. Are you saying that
Nelson should start over Heaps because he went on a mission and Heaps isn't
planning on it? Where in the BYU football "policy and procedures"
does it state that everyone on the team has to go on a mission or they don't
play. Lots of BYU athletic stars have gone on to be great ambassadors for the
Church without going on mission (did you see Fredette baring his testimony on
ESPN?). While part of a coach's job is building responsible young
men with strong character ( and I think Bronco has done an exceptional job at
this) , his primary job is to win and play the players who are going to help the
team achieve that goal. Making the kids go on missions is not part of the Honor
Code nor is it part of the Football Team culture. Heaps is a good person,
leader, and role model, and few would argue against Heaps being the better
QB.If this were the days of McMahan, I would understand your
argument. But with Heaps? . . . . ., I just don't see your point.
Os and Just,Reread Big Hapa's post again a little more closely. It
has nothing to do with who out-performed who athletically. With the constant
"this is a special, different kind of program" message pitched to the
media and recruits, one can only wonder why the program invests and rewards
players who opt out of one of the primary components of what should make it
special. The actions don't quite match the words.
Big HapaDon't be too harsh on Bronco for respecting that kid's free
agency. We did fight a war to have it, you know.
Big Hapa must be a personal friend of Riley Nelson and/or his family because
he's been on the Riley Nelson bandwagon since before Jake Heaps ever took his
snap at center for BYU.Riley was given a fair opportunity to earn
the starting QB position. That's all any player can really expect.
Big Hapa, I hope that one of these days you will explain your antipathy toward
Bronco Mendenhall. You continue to deride him for playing Jake Heaps, but why?
Once Jake got up to speed with the college game he did quite well. It was
apparent that Riley Nelson - although a good athlete and even a good quarterback
within the right program - was not up to running the program. The competition
was open, no one was lied to, no one was denied a chance. So why the
Even though the addition of Cahoon comes as no surprise, im still very excited
to see it become official. I think he will do a fantastic job coaching the
Poor Hedgehog: his knowledge and comments are as poor as his spelling,
punctuation and grammar. Both Cahoon and Dupaix are excellent hires, skilled in
their positions and able to teach and motivate. I can hardly wait until next
Good hire in Cahoon. I am excited to see his success transfer from player coach
to young wide recievers on the field. We do not know if he will be a success or
not, but then someone took a chance on most of those on this board and hired
them for the first time once. Good for those employers that take a chance and
good for Bronco on taking a chance with Cahoon. Go Cougars.
There are numerous reasons to believe that the Ben can teach the current WRs
(and maybe TEs) how to run a route and hang on to the ball. That
would solve a lot of problems on offense. The BYU coaching staff is
now stronger. Anae and Higgins were good coaches or they would not have been
able to make the moves that they did. However, the new coaches are a better fit
for what BYU needs to do going forward. The only question is the
lack of experience at OC. That is both good and bad. At least there should be
some much needed change.
Excellent. Proven talent and knowledge. Sure he hasn't coached but you can't
dismiss the facts of his work ethic. That alone will help win games. Teach it,
instill it, breath it and greatness will follow. Sure even I don't believe BYU
will just break out and win all their games next year. Most likely two or three
losses maybe even four but, a step in the right direction is a step towards the
Congrats cougs from a Utes fan, it's going to be exciting to see how all this
turns out for both teams.
Wonderful News ! Cahoon will be terrific in the BYU sytem, he understands what
this program represents and he is the perfect example of what an LDS football
player is all about. Bronco talks about the unique and different
environment that BYU is and now he has on staff a perfect example of a Return
Missionary who did the right thing and it all worked out for him.This is the Unique environment that is danced around and not spoken openly
about. Bronco last Saturday 1/29/11 at "The Meet The
Juniors" recruiting party, he told the 100 plus boy's that BYU is
different, it stands for more then just football it has a higher and bigger
standard, it is not for everyone, so do not come to BYU if you can't buy in to
what we are about here at BYU, good stuff.My nephew and his 3
teammates all were impressed. However, to bad Bronco has does not fully buy in
to the "Unique" difference,case in point the starting QB. So, actually
BYU is like all the other programs in the country. Talk the Talk
Bronco.POLY Cougar Nation
Cali CougThat was funny.
Fabulous hire but let's not go overboard up there and say BYU is going 13-0. It
will take some time for the fruits of these coaches work to bear out!
Hey Hedgehog!Just look at the past and current Ute coaching staff.
Look how many BYU past players and alumni there are that are helping make the
Utes a very quality program! Go BYU! they know how to produce not only great
players, but also great athletes! I guess you can say that the Utah football
program is really BYU north!
The breadth and depth of hedgehog's lack of understanding is truly amazing.Even the master can't work magic without the necessary raw materials.Doman has Heaps.Who will Chow have?
Great pick up.
"You just never know with a hire like this. The guy may be great, and here
is hoping that he is, or he may stink"Ducky,I
suprized you followed me on this one. Yes Brian Johnson was/is over his skiis
as the QB coach for the Utes - enter chow.Johnson will know have the
ability to learn from the master.Tell me, who will calhoon learn
from? Doh!man? Good luck with that.
I'm just as excited about this hire as any other BYU fan, but just because he's
an amazing receiver who can catch anything, doesn't mean he will be the one in
the game pulling them in from Heaps. Hopefully he can help these young players
develop the confidence to catch the ball. Watching dropped balls definitely gets
What do you get when you cross a uou football player with a groundhog? Six more
weeks of bad football.I can see from wedgie's comment he doesn't
follow football at the professional level closely. Think it through
wedgie...what was Ben doing the last three years in Canada while playing WR? He
did more than just play WR...can you guess what other role he had in Canada?Crickets, Crickets, Crickets
This is exciting. If COACH Cahoon can instill half the desire, drive and work
ethic to the talented receivers BYU has there should be an immediate improvement
this year. These coaches Coach Mendenhall has hired for offense are the types
that will inspire the players to give everything they have and want to reach
their potential. I can't wait for this Fall. JayDee;Some other
things about hedgehogs I have personally learned. They stink(especially the
opinionated ones), they squeal alot but the noise has no intelligence connected
and they tend to make the same predictable mistakes over and over and over.
Re: Wedgehog.What kind of a professional career has Brian Johnson
had? Exactly. . .Who really knows if he'll be a great coach? I'll
tell you one thing though. . .I'd much rather have Ben Cahoon as a WR coach then
I would have Brian Johnson as a QB coach. Cahoon has been around the
game for a long time, and every coach has to start somewhere.
It was fun watching Ben at BYU and will be great to see what he can bring as WR
coach. Only time will tell how his skill and success in the pros translates to
teaching and on-field performance of his players. Good Luck!FYIhedgehog = n. a nocturnal insectivorous Old World mammal with a spiny
coat and short legs, able to roll itself into a ball in defense.I
hesitate to use the phrase, but "'nuff said."
Excited about the Cahoon hiring; concerned about the DB's coach. DB is
traditionally our weakest link on D and I'm not sure how much experience Howell
has with DB's. In addition, lumping all of the DB's together seems like a
mistake. Corner and safety are very different positions. Back in the day when
we had solid defensive backfields there were two coaches.
After a game with about 6 dropped passes early last season, in response to a
feature article on Ben Cahool, I posted a comment about hoping he would soon
retire and that Bronco would hire him as the wide receivers coach. Wish
fulfilled. This team will now soar to greater heights with Bronco coaching the
D and his new hand-picked coaching staff around him. I predict 11-3 in 2011
(including a Bowl victory), with 2012 being the BCS Busting year.
H-hog @1:16:That was unprecedented respect - the fact that you
capitalized "Y" when you said Y?, instead of y?. Good boy H-hog! Oh, by the way - how's your basketball team doing?
@Hedgehog - Get a life.
I felt the cold blast coming from the north and here he is. Welcome back Ben!
Hello HedgehogI have no comment on your posting. It speaks for
itself. Only fluff, no substance. A waste of your time and ours. Get a clue,
ewe should know all about sheep hedgehogSecretly, we know you're
quivering in your little hedgehog hole about the great staff Bronco has
We certainly got our money's worth out of just wanting a change at the Offensive
Coordinator position. And I think Hedgie Doggie must have been the runt of his
litter and got wedgied all the time... and the Rubber Duckie Slayer must
understand what that's like too since he's so agreeable.But all in
all this is going to become an awesome program...and you can just sense the
coming together of something special. Utah's got some good things going for it
as well. Nowhere at the end of the season could I have imagined the uniqueness
of these changes with everybody landing standing up like they have. Including
As someone who grew up with Ben, what a positive person. You're getting a
WINNER! I hope this young energetic staff has a great run.Roger
Dupaix is the dean of coaching- his son Joe was so fun to watch in college.
Best of luck to BYU.
I wasn't sure about this hire until Hedgehog piped in. Now that we can see that
hiring Cahoon adds to Hedgehog's growing insecurity, i know it is a good hire!
Congrats to BYU for an excellent hire. Good upgrade and a good person. With Aaron Roderick coaching the wideouts at the U. and Cahoon at the Y, it
should make for some outstanding receivers in the state - not that we don't
already see that here, but it should improve even more. Congrats
from this Ute to BYU for a great hire.Football in the state of Utah
has never had a brighter future.
Good job, Coach Mendenhall. Good luck next season!P.S. I hope
someone on his staff who DOES read these comments passes on our happiness and
excitement to him.
I actually agree with wedgie although he doesn't have a clue why he is
correct.He loved the Brian Johnson hire by the utes last year and
that has proved to be disastrous as thier qb's quite litterally sucked this year
and showed zero improvement. You just never know with a hire like
this. The guy may be great, and here is hoping that he is, or he may stink like
wow, sounds like all you sheep "love the hire".Y? What has he done to show you he can coach? That's right you can't show
any proof can you.Bronko has surrounded himself with a bunch of yes
man...not proven coaches.
This is definitely a huge step forward for the program. With the quality of
receivers coming into Provo, this is a huge move and will be a great advantage
to the passing game. I think we will see crisp precise routes, good blocking
downfield, and most importantly no more dropped balls. I have been a fan of
Cahoon since I was a kid and am really excited to have him. I think the
impact will be immediate, with receivers like Hoffman, Apo, Ashworth, and
Mathews, and a stable of talented TE's, Cahoon will have some top talent to work
with. This is great news.Go Cougs!
I love the hire as well as the assignment changes. I doubt BYU will
go undefeated as its only happened once in the program's history, but I do think
they will win 10-11 games.It looks like LOI day is almost a wrap and
soon we'll be into Spring ball. It's a good time to be a Cougar.
Very good hire! We've got ourselves a pretty awesome staff. I can't say I'm
super surprised but I think this was a guy everyone was hoping for. Chad Lewis
would have made a good TE coach but he'll still make a good program
administrator as far as the marketing goes or whatever he does. The
future is pretty bright for BYU. There are some questions marks but that's why
there's faith right?Go Cougs!
I've never been a fan of the Montreal Alouettes but Ben Cahoon was simply the
best receiver in the history of the CFL. All the best Ben, your hard work and
perserverance paid off and thanks for the great memories of amazing catches in
the CFL. Cougar fans should be very very excited about having Ben Cahoon become
a receivers coach.
Personally I think BYU has the opportunity to go 12-0 or 13-0 if the TCU game
comes to fruition. I say that almost every year and then they let they're guard
down for one game, and then they lose another one somewhere. I think Heaps will
lose some frustration in the coming year when the WR's actually hang on to the
balls they are thrown!!! Good pick up!!! I couldn't believe some of the drops
last year, it was very uncharacteristic of the Cougars to drop so MANY PASSES!!!
I personally think that this team is going to be good, and only get better! Way
to go Bronco, way to go BYU!!!
Two thumbs up on this one!!!Go Cougars!!!
Score!Talk about a fantastic addition to the program! We're
cheering and rooting for you Coach Cahoon!Welcome back to Provo!Goooooo Cougars!
Best hire ever! Cahoon is just an average guy who studied and worked like crazy
until he became legendary. I can't imagine a better background for being a
coach; super talented people who didn't have to work for it could never develop
others the way Cahoon could. I think BYU is about to become Wide Receiver U.
seems like a great pick up for a positional coach.doman is going to
be the one w/ a lot of pressure - will be interesting how he does w/ the full
control.. definitely like the new pick ups though.
Bad for Canada, good for BYU! What an awesome hire! This team is going to be
Most notable, to me, is Mendenhall keeping the defense. Big Big news for him to
keep the D.This staff gets BYU nicely poised for good things into
the future. 2011 will be a nice schedule to make adjustments to the team and
set up for years into the future.Great job Cougars
As a die hard Ute and 26 year football season ticket holder, I have to say
congratulations to the program and fans of byU. I have had the privilege of
meeting Mr. Cahoon on a couple of different occasions in the past and he is
extremely knowlegeable in his area of expertise (WR's), but more importantly he
is a good man and will represent his school and team with class (Max could take
a lesson from Ben!). Here's hoping for his success in all games but one! ;)Go Utes!!!
good get for the Y. i lived in hamilton, ontario for a while and i got sick of
watching cahoon and calvillo shred my ti-cat defense 2-3 times a year. too bad
forward motion isn't allowed in the american game. i think that's what makes
canadian football fun to watch. all the same though, football is football and
byu got a good guy.
Wonderful hire! Now BYU needs to show the patience to let these guys recruit and
coach to continue building the program to be a consistent, top-25 program.
Great hire, by by dropped passes, hello great routes. Heaps has got to be loving
this.This article says the staff is complete. Meaning the end of
this chapter, no one was fired, all coaches were given notice, everyone ended up
with a job. Another coaches award for Bronco.
BYU's coaching staff is top notch. Very exciting. Recruiting is going to get
better and better with this staff, guaranteed.
Good move, Coach Mendenhall.
And all we were hoping for was a change at Offensive Coordinator...My, my... how
things have blossomed...We didn't get Tye Detmer but in the long haul I think we
came out in even much better shape. Now with Ben Cahoon in the fold the
transformation will progress and this team will be a lot better than it was
destined to become had things remained the same as they were at seasons end.
Here's to a brighter looking future...despite the opening 2011 schedule which
was just to get things rolling. Still hope that TCU will be the 13th game in
2011 even if they do beat us. 2012 will ultimately be the breakout year
anyways. And despite the obvious naysayers who will jump on this...down the
road I still believe that ESPN will be a catylyst in keeping BYU vs Utah a
reality. Both Schools and the PAC can only benifit from it. It's not a losing
propostion. Not when there's already an existing ready made lucrative market
and wide Fan base to support it. Utah and the PAC have more to lose than to
gain if they pass on this.Scoobie
Other than a Detmer hire, the consensus of the fan's hopes for coaching changes
have come true!I was at Ricks College and BYU when Cahoon was there.
He was awesome! The fans in Montreal love him, and why wouldn't they, what's
not to like? I think he has the on-and-off-the-field skills to be a great
BYU's offensive staff is going to be awesome. Young, energetic, great knowledge
of the positions, great recruiters, and an old dog with decades of experience to
help the younger coaches with teaching skills when needed.Welcome
Awesome news!!! This guy is a stud!
Wow- what a surprise!
This is fantastic. Can't wait to see what his effect on our talented young
reciever's will be. He brings professional cred along with the fact that he has
worked in the summers with a lot of our kids. Go Cougs!