re: Summertime | 10:48 a.m. Jan. 31, 2011 "if BYU is ever to
reach BCS game status they must address a little more diversity in their school
I mean how can Boise State sell Idaho and we cannot sell Provo?"Having been to both, its easy. Boise is more cosmpolitan, has a wide range of
activities for all types of people, no mandate that one size has to fit all,
The recruit of Sumsion out of Sprigville is a big time addition he's not only an
athletic tight end who can catch at 6'8" he's tough for QB's to throw over
he could play both ways like he did in High School our biggest threat is losing
him to Dave Rose though he's amazing at hoops also.
Great point crowntown. How many more times are you gonna tell us about 2008 and
WOW panamadesnews, that is quite a prediction seeing as Utah plays a PAC 12
schedule and BYU plays half of the WAC conference weaklings. Way to go out on a
History is something you cling to when the scoreboard lets you down.
Crowntown1: And just what is your point?
Chris B: I would say that 7-6 is a respectable rebuilding year, and it was
almost 8-5. We'll take it. Let's see how BYU and Utah compare in records this
time next year. I am betting that BYU's record will exceed Utah's. In fact, I
am sure of it. Mark it down. If it doesn't happen, I will be happy to eat
crow. But I think I will be having fillet minon instead.
kankles,Apparently the U had nothing left in them after they used
all their "skill" to block that kick to win by so little. BYU was
unranked, the U was Ranked? Or they would have beat the Lowly WAC team in the
bowl. Right?Your defense is still not rested.Go Cougars!
@ Timp,"I'm a BYU fan - but they'll always have a ceiling until
they consistently can bring in some better talent in the defensive
backfield."I have always felt similarly. The years that the
Cougars have gone over 10 wins, they have had strong DB's. Oh, that was the
previous few years before this one....My view of the usual way the Y
gets it's DB's is converted QB's and JC Transfers. I think they will be fine
next year again.Go Cougars
To CougarfaninTX...right after Utah beat your Cougars.
Haters: Hating takes time and effort and takes a toll on a person. Haters have
(obviously) been abused. Hatred come from lack of self-esteem and originates
from jealousy. ChrisB you were most likely once a BYU fan prior to your hatred
of them. Whoever has abused or offended you, please accept our apologies! It is
not worth risking your health in the continuation of your pathetic efforts.
Good luck in the future, uman.
Love the hater-Ute comments. I always need a little humor in my day. Anyway, they can talk as much as they want (we can see how well that did them
this past year). BYU should do just fine.
@ CarnakBe careful with your comments about the WAC. Your Utes got
whipped by a WAC team in the LV Bowl this year.
"After BYU's first year of Independence. Look forward to another top 25
recruiting class in 2012."So it sounds like the zoobs are using
a mulligan in 2011. Ok Jeffe, OK. Remember you only get on mulligan.
Broko better have a trick up his sleeve.BY May after Utah has cherry
picked all the best talent (again) bronco will be postng "help wanted"
posters at the local Wards.
@IJ 4:59So you think playing a PAC 12 schedule will be a
"harder row to hoe" than playing half of a WAC schedule? Brilliant.
I'm no expert - and its certain most of you aren't either - but I think BYU will
be just fine. Not so sure about the U. I believe the PAC will be a little
"harder row to hoe" than independance. The bottom half of each
schedule will be the test. I think that BYU usually gets the people they need.
Adam Hines will be a good addition when he gets up to speed.
The 2011 recruiting class added much needed depth to the Defensive Line and
Linbacking corps. But the real weakness on the Cougar defense is the secondary.
Bronco needs to do a better job at pulling in quality corners and safeties. It
will make a huge difference.Hopefully they can add a few DB commitments to
the 2012 class.Adam Hine could be a real force at the DB position.
Has a very strong frame, great speed, and holds the Utah State record in the
high jump. I know he was recruited as a RB, but he could really make a
difference in the defensive secondary.
We choose Sunday School boys over Neanderthals...any day of the week.
I didn't know that Joe Sampson decided not to come to BYU, I remember reading an
article by Jay Drew that said he had already signed a LOI in December. That
could be a quality recruit that gets away.
Bronco has already started working on the 2012 Recruiting class. The
top receiver out of Arizona for 2012, Josh Weeks, has already signed with BYU.
As a Junior, Weeks holds six Arizona State receiving records, And is a 2-time
Arizona First team All-Stater. Stands 6'4 200 Lbs and has a 4.0 GPA. Check out
his highlight video on youtube. After BYU's first year of
Independence. Look forward to another top 25 recruiting class in 2012.
Chris B/H HogYou are one classy guy/girl; the kind of classy that might
run an adult magazine and adult video store in the classy part of town.Keep your comments coming....your comments are amusing if not creative,
articulate informative or accurate.can't wait for 2011 BYU football
to get here and I am especially thrilled that I won't have to watch any Mtn
BYU's 2011 Recruiting class is the smallest it has been in almost ten years. So
naturally it appears weak. But after an awesome 2010 class with a load of RM's
returning, Bronco could afford to take it easy with 2011.Those Utes
that like to spout their superiority in recruiting might find this interesting.
2010 Recruiting Classes:Scout- BYU: #22 recruiting
class- One 5 star, four 4 star, seventeen 3 starUtah: #50 recruiting
class- five 4 star, fourteen 3 star #22 and #50. Thats quite a gap
wouldn't you say? 28 teams between BYU and Utah.Rivals-BYU:
#40 recruiting class- three 4 star, fifteen 3 starUtah- #32 recruiting
class- four 4 star, sixteen 3 star #32 and #40. Not too big of a
gap. 8 teams between the two.Here are some more credited college
football networks and their opinions on the matter. National
Football Post-BYU #30 recruiting classUtah Unranked.Bleacher Report-BYU #9 In Ranking 2010's Top College Football Recruiting
Classes on OffenseUtah: Not mentioned.Comcast Sports-BYU
#22Utah UnrankedAfter the first year of Independence, Look for
a killer 2012 recruiting class in Provo.
We don't really need a defense since we have Jake and he will make sure we score
every time we have the ball. I just hope those WAC boys don't get hurt trying
to stop us.
Ever since BYU declared independence, I've been loving it. I no longer have to
care AT ALL about what goes on at the PEW. And it seems like the PEW fans only
care about what goes on at BYU. No comments on the PEW board. Weird.
The sound of crickets is echoing on the Utah article about their possible
signees. The obsessed, jaelous, haters can't wait to read the BYU articles and
spew their garbage to the south. This article is about more and more high
quality young men opting to be included in a classy, successful and NATIONALLY
RELEVANT program and the classless comments from the trolls who would tear them
down. Your opinions don't matter. Your team is headed in the opposite direction
as the one you obsess about day and night.
the first year of independence is going to be the most important in terms of
Recruiting and being able to schedule the big time programs in future games
to me personally, i dont think the rank or how many players a school has in
their recruiting class defines a team. Just because BYU doesnt have a top
whatever class doesnt mean they're bad, the same goes for teams that have a
better class...doesnt mean they're the best, either. i think a lot is made out
of nothing, especially judging players before they even step out on the field.
Heder wasn't even the best LB in Region 4 last year, that was Wolford from Alta.
BYU's defensive back depth and talent is better now than it has been in at least
a decade. So even though it isn't where it needs to be it is still heading in
the right direction.Hmm. . . almost 30 comments on BYU's recruiting
article and only 3 on Utah's recruiting articleUtah fans or BYU
haters? I think the number of comments speak for themselves.
I'm a BYU fan - but they'll always have a ceiling until they consistently can
bring in some better talent in the defensive backfield. To have a class w/ out
any DB's (besides a Snow transfer) seems pretty weak, no matter how hard the Des
News tries to spin things.
@ Ragnar,Jan opted not to sign as a free agent, knowing he was too slow
for the NFL. Not too many all pro D-ends run 40's slower than 4.8, just saying.
He has instead opted to become an MMA fighter, and you can find him on Youtube,
just put in his name and his fights will come up.
Tayo Fabuluje is a big loss no matter what anyone says, but if a kid feels lost
in a cultural challenged school ie, BYU or Utah they will not reach their
potential. TCU is also a great place to go, if BYU is ever to reach BCS game
status they must address a little more diversity in their school I mean how can
Boise State sell Idaho and we cannot sell Provo? Please don't talk honor code
and such because that makes us look even more ignorant...
LOL. No wonder so many yewts are posting on the Y article. If they post on the
Yewt's article no one will read it. At this posting there are 23 posts for the
Y and a spectacular 3 on the U. I thought that with the split that all the
u-trolls didn't care what the cougs were doing anymore. It looks like the
interest is in the Y still and the U just gets whats left. Go cougars!
For all that lack of speed on defense they've BYU has sure made that athletic
Utah offense look silly the past 2 seasons.
@cowboy"You're obviously not familiar with football period if
you think blockers aren't vitally important."They are
"vitally important", just a dime a dozen. @Guitar guyYeah, I'm sure not a soul within the byu football or basketball programs
has ever stoked up in "high" school. Langi was a big name kid is all.
Get over yourself.
Did anyone see the article about Utah FB on espn dot com today? The two writers
predicted a 6-6 and 7-5 mark next year for the Utes. Both of them predicted the
Utes will lose to BYU.I think their assessment is fairly accurate.
utahcountyute - sorry, but most BYU fans aren't shedding many tears over Langi.
Unlike the U, there are three players in front of him on the depth chart. Also,
he probably wouldn't have made it through Spring ball without getting suspended
for blazing. But he can get away with that up north, and he knows it.Also, I'm not sure a Ute fan should be scoffing about how easy it is to
recruit tight ends. Who was the last Ute tight end who was even servicable, at
best?Yeah, Fabuluje transferred. So what? A lot of young men do
dream of playing for BYU. Because BYU has tradition, spirit, and honor. I can
understand why that is such a foreign concept to a Ute fan.
Spin, spin, spin for a remarkable weak BYU recruiting class.
I can't believe they signed so many D-lineman. For multiple reasons. One, that
seems like too many. Second, I think that D-lineman are not utilized by BYU. In
my opinion, BYU cost Jan Jorgensen millions of dollars. He is an NFL talent that
was put into a 3-4 when he was leading the conference the previous year in
sacks. He would never say it because he is loyal to BYU, but I think they cost
him an NFL career. I thought this might cost them some recruits, but it looks
like they are still doing well. I agree with "DC" who said that next
year is critical. If they do well (which I think they will), they will continue
to be a good team. If they do poorly, things could get pretty ugly for a
while.PS, before you respond by telling me how many NFL teams run a
3-4, I am just saying Jan was more suited to a 4-3 and SHOULD have gone pro.
Seriously, why do so many Ute fans care what BYU does? Some articles have
nothing to do with the Utes, yet you can always find them running around on here
bashing others based on their puffed image of themselves. (They should have a
segment of "C'mon Man!" for them.) If you hate BYU so much, then dont
worry so much about what they do, especially guys they recruit or whos coming
back from missions. Doing that just means you're looking behind your
@utahcountyuteWhich big slow guy are you talking about Ryker
Matthews (All-American)?You're obviously not familiar with the
Bingham High football if you think Minoa is slow.You're obviously
not familiar with football period if you think blockers aren't vitally
important.I guess you're just going to learn these things the hard
@ i-am-iYeah it's really hard to find a slow, big guy who can block.
lol Whatever makes you feel better about losing one of the best back
recruits to come of Utah in a while.Also...."defensive lineman
Tayo Fabuluje, opted to transfer to TCU" WHAT?!! I thought all
young men just dreamed of playing in Provo?
Coaches can talk in generalities about the recruiting class, they just can't
comment on any specific player. The media, on the other hand, can talk about
specific players all they want. Notice which comments are in quotes and which
ones are not.Anyone who believes BYU will have another 7-6 season
while Heaps is in Provo is only revealing their ignorance(i.e. crowntown1, chris
b). With Hoffman, Jacobsen, and Apo he will shread opposing
defenses. Throw in the trio of backs, who will all make their mark again this
year, and defenses will not know what hit them.
@AdeI wouldn't worry about that to much as those tight ends are more
than likely being signed as athletes as much as tight ends. Much like Vic So'oto
was orignally a tight end but was switched to dline and became an all conference
player and probably NFL draft pick most of those guys will probably wind up
playing d-line, o-line, linebacker, etc. BYU does a great job recruiting that
type of athlete i.e. big, tall, good speed, etc. and then finding places for
them to play.
@crowntownBut of course BYU has a National Championship. utah on the
Um, is a coach allowed to comment on recruits before they officially sign
letters of intent? Just wondering.
Chris B. I don't know if you are Mr. Or Ms B. I am an Aggie, true blue but
root for all of Utah schools, U,SUU,Weber, Dixie, all except when they play my
Aggies. I wonder what your problem is with the Y players having honor,
integrity, and morals. I am sure these traits are present in most of the players
in all of the other schools, but you seem to imply because they are honorable
etc., all are less of players. I am sure all of the schools excluding the Y
appreciate your calling their football players, thugs, criminals, dishonest. It
seems you believe these are characteristics that makes them better. I try to
follow your comments on the U but you seem to be here all of the time. Oh well,
let the players play, you will find they have respect for each other, more than
what is on these blogs.
4 & 5 Stars = National Championships2&3 Stars= New Mexico Bowl/Las
With only 15 scholarships available, BYU signed two more tight ends. WOW! How
many tight ends does one need? The Y must have about 10 tight ends on the
roster. That is great recruiting. Go COUGS.
Defense?Unfortunately for tds good defenses require speed, something
tds will never have on defense.Sunday school boys can be nice and
polite, but unfortunately nice and polite don't go a long ways on the football
field.Speed and sunday school boys are two things that just don't go
together. So long as the honor code is in place and tds thinks football is the
6th most important thing life you can expect average coaches, average players,
and a very average program.7-6, get used to it
ETB might just have something there. Welcome to the Y boys. Enjoy playing before
60,000+ in Provo.
Were just building up for another national champs. So much talent coming in.
With all due respect to Mr. Langi, but with the lack of discipline off the feild
that Langi has shown over the past year, I would think BYU knew he would not be
able to cut it there in Provo with the honor code and may have written him off.
"Two highly touted linebackers have also committed in Austin Heder and Adam
Pulsipher...."Higly touted by who? Broco?These two
star gems only had two offers combined- from such elite programs as Buffalo and
New Mexico State.Bonus question: What is the Buffalo football team
name? Don't feel bad I had to look it up as well...Bulls
If BYU can make independence work, they'll have great recruiting years in the
future. If they stumble next year, they will suffer.
No need to fret too much about not picking up Harvey Langi. Anyone familiar
with the system at Bingham would know that the real stud of every Bingham team
is actually the fullback/linebacker ie. Minoa Pikula who BYU did pick up.