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Published: Saturday, Jan. 29 2011 9:18 p.m. MST

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hedgehog
Ann Arbor, MI

It probably would have been a more logical idea to run this type of article AFTER signing day. But then again the corporate owners of the newspaper feel it's best for BYU to run the article today (seeing that they're recuriting class has been finished for months).

Why would the "corporate" heads want to compare a trainwreck class to what Utah has on signing day?... best to just cut your loses and print it today.

SLCWatch
Salt Lake City, UT

Nice to see who is expected BEFORE signing day so that we can look up video's, review histories and just enjoy our winter hiberation before spring camps start. Also we can see who actually follows through. I like the family ties to the program that are continuing. The companion peice on RM's was nice to have too. Thank you. Looking forward to signing day.

BigSportFan!
Beverly Hills, CA

I agree with hedge. This is pointless until Feb 2nd and separate the teams.

hedgehog
Ann Arbor, MI

" but BYU consistently has better teams"

TJ,

Looks like your emotions are getting the best of you. Can you quantify your anger fit? I can

2 of the last 3
6 of the last 9

and let's not even talk about over all head to head.

--JEFFE--
Cedar City, UT

Hedgehog,

Who will Utah be adding on Feb 2nd that is worth mentioning?
Tre James- 2 star prospect. Has no offers from any FBS school but Utah? Really impressive.

Who knows, maybe Utah will pick up a few great last minute recruits. Maybe not

Utah's recruiting class this year will no doubt be better than BYU's. But BYU's top 25 recruiting class for 2010 dwarfed Utah's.
And the reason for BYU's small recruiting class for 2011 is because the amount of players returning from missions.

hedgelog
Idaho Falls, ID

Ute class....good enough for a 5th place finish in to pac? Only time will tell whether thay are that good!

hedgehog
Ann Arbor, MI

"But BYU's top 25 recruiting class for 2010 dwarfed Utah's."

Jeffe,

One of the many myths tds believe. I guess if you say it enough times it becomes true. Let's look a little deeper - shall we?

TDS loves to focus only on Scout.com(BYU funded) and not other recruiting services. Yes, there was a lead in the scout.com ranking... but keep in mind scout.com does not incorporate JC recuites. Utah had five 4 star JC's last year.

On the other hand Rivals does take into account JC's and as you can guess Utah ended up ranked much higher than the tds. Furthermore, class "ranking" are finalized the second week of February...yet Utah added several key 4 star players to the class months later.

The reality is that the tds class of 2010 while good, didn't come close to what the Utes brought in.

I hope I cleared this up for you.

Duckhunter
American Fork, UT

Of course you don't want this article run yet wedgie as we will have a record of all the rest of the utah "commits" that don't pan out. Better for you to go to press afterwords so that the only thing seen is the few that actually come through.

I notice utah is sitting at 19 at this point, and only one of those (Langi) is much of a recruit. The rest are all 3 star (or lower) guys with offers from powerhouse programs like New Mexico, Nevada and Washington St.

LOL

Oh and all those 4 star JC guys you are claiming from last year, other than cullen who was fairly average on the field last season, who are they? Can't think of anyone standing out on the field. Now they all have what, 1 season left? Are they gonna be superstars for this their final year? Or didn't any of them make grades last year so you're hoping they make it this year. Pretty hard not to make grades at the "u".

LOL

utahcountyute
Cedar Hills, UT

Ducky..

You mean 3 star commits like Freshman All-American Brian Blechen and Joe Kruger? Those 3 stars never pan out. LOL

As for the JC transfers, (OL) Palelei and (WR) Reggie Dunn are Sophs. Reggie is not a "superstar" yet, but he they both have 2 more years left.

You might want to back up your little hissy fits with some facts.

Go Utes!

hedgehog
Ann Arbor, MI

"Oh and all those 4 star JC guys you are claiming from last year, other than cullen who was fairly average on the field last season, who are they?"

Ducky,

If your going to talk smack try atleast to know what your talking about... nothing like being bitter and ignorant. 4 out of the 6 JC had a MAJOR impact. Mo Lee redshirted and Dexter Ranson saw limited minutes.

Star Lotulelei 4 star JC Played in all games - started in LV Bowl

Reggie Dunn 4 star JC Played in all games - go to reciever and kick returner

James Aiono 4 star JC Played in all games - could be starter next season.

John Cullen 4 Star JC starter in all games.

--JEFFE--
Cedar City, UT

Hedgehog,

You should start doing your homework before you talk. Scout actually does include JC recruits. These two recruiting services just have a different rating system. But there are many more networks than just those two that rank recruiting classes. Let me educate you.

Scout-
BYU: #22 recruiting class- One 5 star, four 4 star, seventeen 3 star
Utah: #50 recruiting class- five 4 star, fourteen 3 star

#22 and #50. Thats quite a gap wouldn't you say? 28 teams between BYU and Utah.

Rivals-
BYU: #40 recruiting class- three 4 star, fifteen 3 star
Utah- #32 recruiting class- four 4 star, sixteen 3 star

#32 and #40. Not too big of a gap. 8 teams between the two.

Here are some more credited college football networks and their opinions on the matter.

National Football Post-
BYU #30 recruiting class
Utah Unranked.

Bleacher Report-
BYU #9 In Ranking 2010's Top College Football Recruiting Classes on Offense
Utah: Not mentioned.

College Football Cafeteria-
BYU #22
Utah Unranked

Comcast Sports-
BYU #22
Utah Unranked

I hope I cleared it up for you

You're welcome...

Duckhunter
American Fork, UT

@wedgie

jc transfers that "played". Big deal. So they "played" for a team which was vastly overated and performed abysmally the last half of the season.

If JC transfers don't start, especially if they are 4 star transfers as you claim, then they aren't worth much.

A real jc transfer that is worthwhile would be one like say....Jason Buck. You know one that starts every game after the transfer and is say an ALL AMERICAN and OUTLAND TROPHY winner.

Get back to us when one of those guys does something besides "play" on ateam that pretty weel crashes and burns the last half of the season.

LOL

hedgehog
Ann Arbor, MI

"A real jc transfer that is worthwhile would be one like say....Jason Buck"

The above statement is typical of what a tds fan would say when flustered about the current state of their football team.

Jump head first into the hot tube time machine and relieve the "good old days" when answers were easier to come by.

Dude, That was 25 years ago LOL!

Cougar Claws
Lindon, UT

my dog can beat up your dog.

UC UTE
Lehi, UT

Duckie... Yep we crashed and burned the last half of the season and still ended up with a better record then your boys. BTW have you seen Jason Bucks son play? You can find him at the RES.

Go Utes!!!

Duckhunter
American Fork, UT

Uh UC Ute...I coached Lone Peak youth football with Jason for several years and know them well. His boy is a walk on at utah and yes I have seen him play many, many times.

He is a good player but does not have his Fathers speed or size.

Anything else you want to know about it?

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