Before Chris B decides to spout off, isn't Chris' logic that the honor code
keeps BYU from becoming or having true athletes?I wonder how he
feels about the good young men and women that attend the U that espouse the same
standards without an adopted "Honor Code?"
Is Danny Ainge's 2467 point BYU career scoring record now in jeopardy?Jimmer has 2107 points and needs 361 points to break Ainge's record.At his current average of 27.4 ppg, it would take 14 games.With 10
regular season conference games and 3 games in the MWC tournament, Jimmer is on
pace to break the record in the opening round of the NCAA tournament.If Jimmer averages what he's been scoring since MWC play began, 35.7 ppg, he'd
break the record in the opening game of the MWC tournament.It's even
possible that Ainge's record could fall in Jimmer's final game at the Marriott
Center versus Wyoming.At any rate, it's an interesting mark to keep
track of as BYU strives to win the MWC regular and tournament championships and
positions itself for a deep run in the NCAA tournament.One game at a
time.Good luck in the Pit on Saturday Cougs.I'm sure
Jimmer and company will be looking for a little redemption after falling just
short in both games versus New Mexico last year.This time the Lobos
will be facing a healthy Jimmer!
As diehard Ute fan Big_Ben suggested, let's discuss BYU basketball and
Jimmer.It's time to drop kick the Utah trolls like hedgehog,
utahcountyute and Chris B off the BYU blogs.During football season,
they should have spending all of their time talking about the Utes instead of
hanging out on the blog of a team that had a losing record for most of the
season.During basketball season, especially during this season, the
Utes are a meer afterthought and the only intrigue the Utes should hold for BYU
fans is whether they'll get Jimmered by 50 points in the Marriott Center next
More like an average team and a good player.
crowntown1Jiggy is a good playing, but calling the Utes an average
team is stretching things a bit.
BYU is succeeding because they have an unselfish team where everyone is willing
to fill their role. Even when Jimmer is having a great night, they don't win
without the defensive stops, the rebounding, and the screens. Emery or Davies
could average 20 if they took 12 more shots a game, but they are willing to let
their best offensive player get those shots while they fill other roles so that
they can succeed as a team. Hats off to a team that is fun to watch and easy to
cheer for. They really show what teamwork is all about.
Hey crowntown1 from corona. You are dilusional! Jimmer is a special player that
only comes along once in a great while. He is a rockstar right now and the
country can't get enough of him. The only thing that is holding him back is the
MTN West TV contract and lack of exposure. ESPN is doing their best to showcase
him and we east coast fans are loving it. Jump on board the JIMMER train and
enjoy the ride!!!!
I agree with Coach Rose. A team wins. That said, Jimmer is a special player.
Let's just enjoy what he does for the remainder of his college career. Further,
I hope the Cougs continue their run on a great season. All teams in the
conference and the West benefit from this. Go Cougs!
Did you not read what I wrote? I said good player. Yeah and he is the only
player on BYU's roster name I know. I don't think the team is all that great.
Wasn't Jimmer on last years team that lost in he first rnd of the tourney?
Both BYU and Utah fans should enjoy this ride while it lasts. Rarely does a
player come along that gets this kind of attention (especially at BYU). I know a
lot of BYU fans that enjoyed watching Bogut, Doleac, Van Horn, Miller, and
Grant. I lived in Austin when Durrant was doing his thing at Texas. Its just
nice to have a local kid play in a way that he gets on Sportscenter every
week...even if he doesnn't play for the team I root for.
crowntown1You can either accept reality that BYU is a legitimate Top
10 team and Jimmer is one of the leading candidates for national Player of the
Year,or you must live with the fact that U got torched by 104 points
by an "average" team and lit up for 47 points by a player whom you
only consider "good".Either way, the Utes suffered a
25-point beatdown on their homecourt and their return visit to the Marriott
Center could be MUCH worse.
The nice thing about all the attention Jimmer is getting is that he performs
better the hotter the spotlight is. Some players would choke under all this
scrutiny but Jimmer will just continue to thrive.This also benefits
the BYU program as a whole as well as individual players. I think Emery is a
player who could have a nice oversees career and this attention will only help
that (if he can get out of his shooting slump) and next year's kids like Davies
will have a little of their own hype going into next season due to all this
exposure.Saturday is a huge challenge but I think this particular
team will excell as the pressure builds.Go Cougs!!
Commontater,"I wonder how he feels about the good young men and
women that attend the U that espouse the same standards without an adopted
"Honor Code?" I'm happy to oblige: I think they are good
men and women, just as you put it. However, the U would not be
successful(see 2 bcs win, invite to the big league, trips to final four, march
madness championship....) if we only had "good men and women that espouse
the same standards."Did I ever say those at the U or ybu who
live the "honor code" aren't good people?Nope.I simply said you will never be a national presence while the honor code is in
place, because you'll never be able to have a team that is amongst the nation's
best with only Sunday School boys.And please before you go all
jimmer on me - jimmer has 1 NCAA win. And ybu has 1 NCAA win in 20 years. Know
why? You ONLY have "good men and women who love the honor code."That clear things up for ya bud?
Dear Truth. Remember on the bell curve their is still the very bottom of the
curve to be average and that is where the Utes are this season, and last, and
last. You get the idea.
Dear Crowntown. Start paying attention to their record last year. NO, they did
not lose in the first round. Oh, Chris B. You should resubmit your
moniker as the Capitan Negative, because I have never seen a single positive
word from your comments about BYU. Go back into your hole.
I listened to an interview of the reporter who did the SI article on Jimmer and
his brother. One of the things that really impressed her was the
fact that there isn't any resentment towards Jimmer by his teammates. She said
that is pretty rare when you have one player who gets so much of the attention.
I remember reading a book by Coach Wooden where he talked about having that
struggle with his players when Lew Alcindor (Kareem) played for him.I've been impressed all season by the unselfishness of the entire team. I also
love listening to the post-game interviews with Jimmer. He reminds me of Detmer
in that he deflects praise and points out and praises his teammates. (I also
love that immediately after the game his thoughts were already focused in on New
Mexico).Good luck at the Pit boys! We'll be cheering for you! Go
crowntown1:No, Jimmer was not on the same team that lost in the 1st round.
He was on last year's team that lost in the 2nd round. You really don't seem to
know enough to participate in this conversation. You sound like you are
suffering from attention envy! What did your favorite team get beat by an
unknown? Just because you don't know who the other players on BYU are doesn't
mean that they aren't good. There are a lot of national observers that do know
who the other players on BYU are and they are saying that the Cougars are really
good. Get a clue before you say anything next time!
Again you can talk your smack right now but until Jimmers does what Utah has
already done get to the Final Four then you can say byu basketball is legit. Its
been a joke in the past compared to the success of the Utes. I am starting to
sound like a tds fans with 1984 comparisons now.
Gotta admire the tenacity with which the BYU haters cling to their feable
attempts to ignore reality. Here's just a little taste of what this
"average" BYU team has accomplished so far this season:BYU(20-1)#9 AP, #9 Coaches, #1 RPIbeat #25 Utah State(19-2) 78-72,
WAC 1st placebeat #24 Saint Mary's(18-3) 74-73, WCC 1st placebeat
#27 Arizona(17-4) 87-65, PAC 10 2nd placebeat UTEP(17-4) 89-68, C-USA 1st
placebeat Vermont(15-5) 86-58, America East 2nd placebeat at
UNLV(16-5) 89-78, MWC 4thbeat at CSU(14-6) 94-85, MWC 3rdbeat #4
SDSU(20-1) 71-58, MWC 2ndBYU's only loss, at UCLA(13-7) 79-86, with
three of BYU's five starters hurt or out--Hartsock recovering from a concussion,
Chris Collinsworth out, and Jackson was still nursing a micro-fracture in his
leg.Anyone claiming that BYU is just a one-man Jimmer Show simply
doesn't understand the defense, rebounds, screens, blocks, steals, assists, etc.
that the other players are contributing to make the Jimmer Show a success.
crowntown1 | 11:07 p.m. Jan. 27, 2011 Corona, CA More like an
average team and a good player. crowntown1 | 8:26 a.m. Jan. 28, 2011
Corona, CA Did you not read what I wrote? I said good player. Yeah
and he is the only player on BYU's roster name I know. I don't think the team is
all that great. Wasn't Jimmer on last years team that lost in he first rnd of
the tourney? ===What you have written speaks volume of what
you know, and don't know.What "average" team is ranked 9th
and just beat a 4th place team?What "good" player is
leading the nation in scoring and being projected as a first round pick?Which team lost in the first round?The fact that you don't
know anyone's name on a top 10 team really means squat. It just shows you don't
know.Why comment to prove you don't know what you are commenting
on?What is the purpose of that?
BYU basketball is a one trick pony.... you get these adorable oddities every
year. The elite programs will simply double team jimer and the hoopla will go
away.... as usual.
@ Chris BMaybe you're right about BYU only have "good men and
women" and "Sunday School boy", but I'd still rather cheer for
BYU not necessarily because of their storied programs, but because of what they
stand for and the success that they have had despite the Honor Code that you
think hinders their success. It makes me smile when these choir boys blow out
teams with "real athletes" like the utes. If only BYU had a real
athlete that could drop 40+ points 3 out of the last 4 games and lead the nation
in scoring.... if only. I guess I'll just have to watch the utes and their
"real athletes" with their .500 record.
Come on fellow utes. Give this kid the respect he deserves. He is special. I
admit I like when byu loses but I don't know how any sports fan can't enjoy
watching jimmer. He is one of those special players who comes along very
infrequently to schools like Utah and byu. I would love to see byu go deep in
the tournament this year. Good luck cougs and go utes.
Wow Chris, there you go again on the honor code thing. Look, this is what you
don't get. Life is about honor and integrity. No one will ever be judged on how
many points that they score or rebounds or free throws. We will all be judged on
the kind of person that we are. An honor code tends to help people excel at
life, it gives standards to live by. It makes you a better person. Chris the
Lord does not fly a BYU Flag or wear blue. But you know what he does?, when he
looks at the hearts of many young people who struggle with life and its
decisions and he understands that they are really trying to do whats right. He
appreciates their effort and he smiles with love and kindness. It really is all
about honor in your life Chris. Have you felt that love lately? Your attitude
really worries me. It makes me sad.JeffJeff
As a Ute fan, I apologize for those Ute fans who display ignorance and stupidity
on this forum. Ute21, please come up to the University and learn to use
punctuation. ChrisB, please consider that religious bigotry is still bigotry
and know that a person's living Christian standards is not a sign of weakness.
And, crowntown1, please do some rudimentary homework before commenting on
something about which you know so little. And, Jimmer fans, please realize that
drawing comparisons between the current BYU team and the current U team
accomplishes nothing. There is no need to diminish one team to appreciate
another. Ditto to you fellow Ute fans.
MSNBC is reporting that there were 1300 articles about Jimmer/BYU in the media
YESTERDAY!Winning with the flair BYU and Jimmer have been doing so
lately brings national exposure even with BYU buried by the MTN.Imagine the exposure if Jimmer was performing his magic on ESPN!
Jimmer is a special player for BYU and the MWC. He is a great shooter and is
very quick. I don't know if he would have as much success in another conference.
AZ DaveYes, Jimmer has really struggled against teams like Arizona.
Jimmer is a stud! But we need the rest of the team to score points too. BYU
doesn't need one great player, we need a great team.How many
national championships did Pistol Pete Maravich win? Nuff said!
Redfather and AZ Dave,I don't understand how 33 points against
Arizona qualifies as "struggled".Enlighten me please.
Gdot-aka-whitelightningI think that was the exact point redfeather
was making to AZDave.
I couldn't say it better myself, but felt it was worth repeating. oldschool | 11:03 a.m. Jan. 28, 2011 Farmington, UT As a Ute fan,
I apologize for those Ute fans who display ignorance and stupidity on this
forum. Ute21, please come up to the University and learn to use punctuation.
ChrisB, please consider that religious bigotry is still bigotry and know that a
person's living Christian standards is not a sign of weakness. And, crowntown1,
please do some rudimentary homework before commenting on something about which
you know so little. And, Jimmer fans, please realize that drawing comparisons
between the current BYU team and the current U team accomplishes nothing. There
is no need to diminish one team to appreciate another. Ditto to you fellow Ute
Jimmerization is taking place in College Hoops!
@AZ DaveReally? You of all people think Jimmer wouldn't have much success
in another conference? How did he do against the #2 PAC10 team the past two
years, the #1 WCC team, the #1 CUSA team, the #1 WAC team? How'd Jimmer do
against Florida (SEC East #1) last year in the NCAA tourney? Jimmer
is one of the top players in all of college basketball, and he is without a
doubt the funnest one to watch! We'll continue to enjoy watching him play in
the NBA next year.
Props have to be given to the classy Utah fans.And a big thank-you
to all the Haters!!!(You make the rebuttal of your comments way too
FarmingtonOkay professor, I will keep that in mind. Also, you dont
need to apologize on my behalf.
Fact checker for the haters:BYU has three NCAA tournament wins in
the last 20 years; or three wins in their last 10 NCAA tournaments. Still not
great, but alot better than the "one win in the last 20 years" that
the hateful ones on the hill are fond of citing incorrectly.More
importantly, BYU has one win, 3 conference champioinship, and four NCAA
tournament appearances in the last five years (and counting), which is a vast
improvement over the zero wins, one conference championship, and one NCAA
tournament for the program formerly known as the Runnin' Utes.
Ute 21...He wasn't apologizing for you. He was telling you to use
punctuation. Reading is quickly becoming a lost art at the U.
BYU is going to dominate in the tournament! I am so excited for those teams to
get Jimmered! We are going to win the MWC title for sure this year!!! I hope
they let TJ rap some more at games that was so awesome.
Crowntown1: BYU won their first game of the tourney last year, but lost the
2nd, to a team that defended Jimmer pretty well. This year BYU has others who
can score and their ball movement is awsome as well as their defense. They will
do well this year. They are a great and a well coached team. We will learn a
lot this Saturday at 2:00 MST when they play at the next to most dreaded place
to play - the Pit in New Mexico. The most dreaded place to play is the Marriot
Center, home of the BYU Cougar BB team. Can't wait until Saturday!
Ute 21Yeah learn how to read buddy! You are always on our boards
dissing our Jimmer. He has more talent in his left pinky finger then you have
all together. Quit hating the future Pistol Pete Maravich. He is going to make
millions of dollars while you Ute fans will be pumping his gas. U fans are all
the same, ignorant jerks jealous of BYU. Cant wait for the game in the Pit.
Jimmer is going to be on fire, I bet he gets over fifty points! We should all
petition to get his bro TJ to rap at every home game! Wouldnt that be awesome?!!
His style of rap is fresh. Compared to what we usually hear with rappers today
it was awesome!
Hey, Hedgehog, when SDSU double and triple teamed Jimmer in the 2nd half, other
players stepped up and BYU started to pull away. Jimmer proceeded to keep the
pressure on SDSU by making three throws when he was fouled, which was SDSU's
final option to try to make up the difference in the score. That didn't work
either. Both tteams had great defense, but BYU's defense added to their
offense, made the difference - they are a well balanced team. Did you read what
their coach said about jimmer and the BYU Cougars. I quote, "BYU looks
like a final four team". That is all that needs to be said. Over and out.
"Fresh" and Marriot Center just don't seem to jive. Bro
Chris B.Any fumbling apologist who takes that many words to make a weak
point, doesn't have one.
To the Jealous-of-Jimmer Homers, consider this possibility: NCAA selection
committee, locked in a hotel room the second weekend of March, deciding where to
put the Cougars with their "No Sunday Play" policy. Do you stick them
with a relatively low seed (3,4 or 5) based on their poor performance in past
years, or give them a #2 or even #1 seed (if their ranking in March justifies
it) and the easiest possible path to the Final Four? Something tells me that
the committee, noting the nation's obsession with Jimmer and his ability to put
butts in seats and eyeballs on the TV, will give them a higher-than-usual
ranking...what's good for Jimmer's Cougs is good for college basketball.
CougarBlue | 9:14 a.m. Jan. 28, 2011 Oh, Chris B. You should
resubmit your moniker as the Capitan Negative, because I have never seen a
single positive word from your comments about BYU. Go back into your hole. I have actually read some pretty complimentary comments about the
Cougars from Chris B. You just have to read an article that is primarily about
the Utes. He'll give BYU its dues there, just not here. He just trolls the
Cougar articles to get a rise out of us.
As a Uah fan, I wonder why you Cougars continue to respond to ChrisB, Hedgehog
and all the others you continue mention as BYU haters. I don't think I know
them,(nor do I want to) but don't you think they are just eating it up that you
get into these battles with them. Try to ignore them for a change and Enjoy this
Jimmmer ride! Its a fun ride even for a Utah fan!
Clearly Jimmer is a special player. Jackson Emery is also decent as well as the
Provo kids, Collingsworth, Collingsworth, and Davies. All of that group would
get playing time at most D1 schools. Additionally, the current team plays well
together. I hope they find some success in the NCAA tournament this year.Next year, without Jimmer, they will just be a good team. The big
problem for BYU is if Jimmer has an off night or is shut down. I am not sure the
"collective" can overcome that against other teams in the
Why are newt trolls commenting on anything regarding BYU basketball. Their own
team is struggling to get to and stay at 500. Maybe you should try figuring out
what's wrong at home in the HC rather than proclaiming your ignorance on this
To all you BYU fans or Utah fans that replied back to me YES JIMMER is a good
player! Does the rest of the country comment or write about or know anyone else
on the team? NO! GREAT! FINE! they lost in the second round last year. Jsut goes
to prove my point that they were loaded last year and flopped. So they are
ranked in the top 10 big deal, I promise you they won't survive the first 2
rounds. History proves that doesn't it? BYU/UTAH/SPAZZ fans get so butt hurt if
you do not agree.
Don't worry about BYU Big J...you should be more worried about Boylen and the
Utes...the cougars are just fine...Jimmer is one of the best players in the
land...Dave Rose is an excellent coach...and BYU is #9 and moving up!BYU is going to be alright!
Every year is a new one crowntown and the truth is you don't know anything at
all. You think you do and you are hoping BYU goes out in the 1st or 2nd round,
but the reality is you don't know anything.How many players from
UCONN do you know other than the point guard? How many players from OSU do you
know other than the center? Frankly you don't know any of the other players on
any of the other teams other than the stars. Unless you are some ncaa b-ball
junkie no one knows any of the secondary players, only the stars.The
fact is Jimmer is a superstar at this level and because of that he is known by
everyone. It doesn't make the other players on the team mediocre, or bad,
players. It just means Jimmer is so much better than litterally almost every
other player in the entire country that he gets all the attention. Just because billy bob from mudbucket alabama doesn't know anyone's name on
the team other than Jimmers doesn't mean a thing. Most years he wouldn't no
anyones name at all.
crowntown1"I promise you they won't survive the first 2
rounds."Should we Mark that Down?This is what
clueless haters resort to when they have NOTHING else to bolster their weak
arguments--making clueless predictions based on NOTHING but their own biased
opinions.EVERY year is different, but what we do know is BYU and
SDSU are both a year older and more experienced, and in college basketball, that
can make a HUGE difference in the tournament.Jimmer never fully
recovered from his bout with mononucleosis last season and he still averaged 22
points per game; not quite good enough to beat a very good #2 seed Kansas State
team in the 2nd round. This year, Jimmer is healthy and better
conditioned and he's UNSTOPPABLE, averaging 27.4, the highest scoring average in
the country.Last year BYU was a 7th seed. This year, BYU could very
easily be a #2 or #3 seed, which means BYU wouldn't face a #4 or high seed until
the Sweet Sixteen. That's a huge advantage that everyone who really follows
college basketball should know.
Doesn't matter what Byu's ranking is this year or whatever or how many ranked
teams they beat Wait is UCLA ranked? doesn't matter BYU Basketball fans you
have you know BYU will find a way to choke in the tourney just like you do every
year. My argument is with the fans who praise Jimmer like he's god and that BYU
basketball is a powerhouse that can't get by 2 rounds in the tourney? YES Jimmer
is a goood player! I don't need snazzy stats or numbers to prove that one. And
YES mark it down BYU will not make it past the first two rounds.
BYU has the number 1 RPI in NCAA basketball...right now! That means they have
played a tough schedule and won!