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Published: Thursday, Jan. 27 2011 9:26 p.m. MST

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Commontater
Lehi, UT

Before Chris B decides to spout off, isn't Chris' logic that the honor code keeps BYU from becoming or having true athletes?

I wonder how he feels about the good young men and women that attend the U that espouse the same standards without an adopted "Honor Code?"

TrueBlue
Orem, UT

Is Danny Ainge's 2467 point BYU career scoring record now in jeopardy?

Jimmer has 2107 points and needs 361 points to break Ainge's record.

At his current average of 27.4 ppg, it would take 14 games.

With 10 regular season conference games and 3 games in the MWC tournament, Jimmer is on pace to break the record in the opening round of the NCAA tournament.

If Jimmer averages what he's been scoring since MWC play began, 35.7 ppg, he'd break the record in the opening game of the MWC tournament.

It's even possible that Ainge's record could fall in Jimmer's final game at the Marriott Center versus Wyoming.

At any rate, it's an interesting mark to keep track of as BYU strives to win the MWC regular and tournament championships and positions itself for a deep run in the NCAA tournament.

One game at a time.

Good luck in the Pit on Saturday Cougs.

I'm sure Jimmer and company will be looking for a little redemption after falling just short in both games versus New Mexico last year.

This time the Lobos will be facing a healthy Jimmer!

TrollPolice
Salt Lake City, UT

As diehard Ute fan Big_Ben suggested, let's discuss BYU basketball and Jimmer.

It's time to drop kick the Utah trolls like hedgehog, utahcountyute and Chris B off the BYU blogs.

During football season, they should have spending all of their time talking about the Utes instead of hanging out on the blog of a team that had a losing record for most of the season.

During basketball season, especially during this season, the Utes are a meer afterthought and the only intrigue the Utes should hold for BYU fans is whether they'll get Jimmered by 50 points in the Marriott Center next month!

crowntown1
Corona, CA

More like an average team and a good player.

Truth Machine
Salt Lake City, UT

crowntown1

Jiggy is a good playing, but calling the Utes an average team is stretching things a bit.

jakartafan
Houston, TX

BYU is succeeding because they have an unselfish team where everyone is willing to fill their role. Even when Jimmer is having a great night, they don't win without the defensive stops, the rebounding, and the screens. Emery or Davies could average 20 if they took 12 more shots a game, but they are willing to let their best offensive player get those shots while they fill other roles so that they can succeed as a team. Hats off to a team that is fun to watch and easy to cheer for. They really show what teamwork is all about.

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Jon from PA
Ligonier, PA

Hey crowntown1 from corona. You are dilusional! Jimmer is a special player that only comes along once in a great while. He is a rockstar right now and the country can't get enough of him. The only thing that is holding him back is the MTN West TV contract and lack of exposure. ESPN is doing their best to showcase him and we east coast fans are loving it. Jump on board the JIMMER train and enjoy the ride!!!!

MizzouBlue
Carthage, MO

I agree with Coach Rose. A team wins. That said, Jimmer is a special player. Let's just enjoy what he does for the remainder of his college career. Further, I hope the Cougs continue their run on a great season. All teams in the conference and the West benefit from this. Go Cougs!

crowntown1
Corona, CA

Did you not read what I wrote? I said good player. Yeah and he is the only player on BYU's roster name I know. I don't think the team is all that great. Wasn't Jimmer on last years team that lost in he first rnd of the tourney?

BP
Salt Lake City, UT

Both BYU and Utah fans should enjoy this ride while it lasts. Rarely does a player come along that gets this kind of attention (especially at BYU). I know a lot of BYU fans that enjoyed watching Bogut, Doleac, Van Horn, Miller, and Grant. I lived in Austin when Durrant was doing his thing at Texas. Its just nice to have a local kid play in a way that he gets on Sportscenter every week...even if he doesnn't play for the team I root for.

royalblue
Alpine, UT

crowntown1

You can either accept reality that BYU is a legitimate Top 10 team and Jimmer is one of the leading candidates for national Player of the Year,

or you must live with the fact that U got torched by 104 points by an "average" team and lit up for 47 points by a player whom you only consider "good".

Either way, the Utes suffered a 25-point beatdown on their homecourt and their return visit to the Marriott Center could be MUCH worse.

Idaho Coug
Meridian, Idaho

The nice thing about all the attention Jimmer is getting is that he performs better the hotter the spotlight is. Some players would choke under all this scrutiny but Jimmer will just continue to thrive.

This also benefits the BYU program as a whole as well as individual players. I think Emery is a player who could have a nice oversees career and this attention will only help that (if he can get out of his shooting slump) and next year's kids like Davies will have a little of their own hype going into next season due to all this exposure.

Saturday is a huge challenge but I think this particular team will excell as the pressure builds.

Go Cougs!!

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Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Commontater,

"I wonder how he feels about the good young men and women that attend the U that espouse the same standards without an adopted "Honor Code?"

I'm happy to oblige: I think they are good men and women, just as you put it.

However, the U would not be successful(see 2 bcs win, invite to the big league, trips to final four, march madness championship....) if we only had "good men and women that espouse the same standards."

Did I ever say those at the U or ybu who live the "honor code" aren't good people?

Nope.

I simply said you will never be a national presence while the honor code is in place, because you'll never be able to have a team that is amongst the nation's best with only Sunday School boys.

And please before you go all jimmer on me - jimmer has 1 NCAA win. And ybu has 1 NCAA win in 20 years. Know why? You ONLY have "good men and women who love the honor code."

That clear things up for ya bud?

CougarBlue
Heber City, UT

Dear Truth. Remember on the bell curve their is still the very bottom of the curve to be average and that is where the Utes are this season, and last, and last. You get the idea.

CougarBlue
Heber City, UT

Dear Crowntown. Start paying attention to their record last year. NO, they did not lose in the first round.

Oh, Chris B. You should resubmit your moniker as the Capitan Negative, because I have never seen a single positive word from your comments about BYU. Go back into your hole.

fresnogirl
Fresno, CA

I listened to an interview of the reporter who did the SI article on Jimmer and his brother.

One of the things that really impressed her was the fact that there isn't any resentment towards Jimmer by his teammates. She said that is pretty rare when you have one player who gets so much of the attention. I remember reading a book by Coach Wooden where he talked about having that struggle with his players when Lew Alcindor (Kareem) played for him.

I've been impressed all season by the unselfishness of the entire team. I also love listening to the post-game interviews with Jimmer. He reminds me of Detmer in that he deflects praise and points out and praises his teammates. (I also love that immediately after the game his thoughts were already focused in on New Mexico).

Good luck at the Pit boys! We'll be cheering for you! Go Cougars!

bkcharles
Snowflake, AZ

crowntown1:
No, Jimmer was not on the same team that lost in the 1st round. He was on last year's team that lost in the 2nd round. You really don't seem to know enough to participate in this conversation. You sound like you are suffering from attention envy! What did your favorite team get beat by an unknown? Just because you don't know who the other players on BYU are doesn't mean that they aren't good. There are a lot of national observers that do know who the other players on BYU are and they are saying that the Cougars are really good. Get a clue before you say anything next time!

Utes21
Salt Lake City, ut

Again you can talk your smack right now but until Jimmers does what Utah has already done get to the Final Four then you can say byu basketball is legit. Its been a joke in the past compared to the success of the Utes. I am starting to sound like a tds fans with 1984 comparisons now.

skywalker
Palo Alto, CA

Gotta admire the tenacity with which the BYU haters cling to their feable attempts to ignore reality.

Here's just a little taste of what this "average" BYU team has accomplished so far this season:

BYU(20-1)#9 AP, #9 Coaches, #1 RPI

beat #25 Utah State(19-2) 78-72, WAC 1st place
beat #24 Saint Mary's(18-3) 74-73, WCC 1st place
beat #27 Arizona(17-4) 87-65, PAC 10 2nd place
beat UTEP(17-4) 89-68, C-USA 1st place
beat Vermont(15-5) 86-58, America East 2nd place
beat at UNLV(16-5) 89-78, MWC 4th
beat at CSU(14-6) 94-85, MWC 3rd
beat #4 SDSU(20-1) 71-58, MWC 2nd

BYU's only loss, at UCLA(13-7) 79-86, with three of BYU's five starters hurt or out--Hartsock recovering from a concussion, Chris Collinsworth out, and Jackson was still nursing a micro-fracture in his leg.

Anyone claiming that BYU is just a one-man Jimmer Show simply doesn't understand the defense, rebounds, screens, blocks, steals, assists, etc. that the other players are contributing to make the Jimmer Show a success.

Veritas Aequitas
Fruit Heights, UT

crowntown1 | 11:07 p.m. Jan. 27, 2011
Corona, CA
More like an average team and a good player.

crowntown1 | 8:26 a.m. Jan. 28, 2011
Corona, CA
Did you not read what I wrote? I said good player. Yeah and he is the only player on BYU's roster name I know. I don't think the team is all that great. Wasn't Jimmer on last years team that lost in he first rnd of the tourney?
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What you have written speaks volume of what you know, and don't know.

What "average" team is ranked 9th and just beat a 4th place team?

What "good" player is leading the nation in scoring and being projected as a first round pick?

Which team lost in the first round?

The fact that you don't know anyone's name on a top 10 team really means squat. It just shows you don't know.

Why comment to prove you don't know what you are commenting on?

What is the purpose of that?

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