Note: Childishly misspelling someone's blog handle (like fresnogirl) is like a
grade-schooler sticking out his tongue when he doesn't have an intelligent
response to an argument.It's interesting how quickly the world of
college sports changes, like this little blast from the past:"hedgehog | 12:18 p.m. Oct. 22, 2010 Ann Arbor, MI Ahh
yes, 6-0 ranked #9 in the BCS... [BYU] is in shambles and the Utes will cherry
pick the top LDS players going forwardIts GREAAAATTTT to be a
Ute."Fast forward to today:Ahh yes, 20-1, ranked #9
in the country with one of the top three national POY candidates... Utah is in
shambles and the Cougars will be cherry picking any Utah recruit that the
Cougars want going forward.It's GREAAAAAATTTT to be a Cougar!(Oh yeah, BYU played so well in their biggest game in Marriott Center
history, that there were 1300 articles written about Jimmer and BYU the day
after the game -- according to MSNBC.)
"Does Oregon St.(2008) Qualify as a quality program in the recent
past?"Quality, yes. Elite, not even close.Programs
I would classify as elite programs:Ohio StateMichigan (even
though they've been down lately)Penn StateNotre Dame (see
StateMiamiAlabamaLSUGeorgiaPerennial Top 25
teams for the last 30 years and teams that have won at least one National
Championship in the last 30 years.
Thanks for Fresno Girl's comments. I like Swoop's observation of
quality teams @ RES.Does Oregon St.(2008) Qualify as a quality
program in the recent past? (Not that I want to defend Hedgie).Thu. 10/02/08NAAAH.Go Cougars
"I guess that's you telling us that you will begin your NC talk in April
this year. YOU were the one doing it last Fall before the TCU game...."fresonguy,you know this is untrue. Telling a lie is an honor
code no no. If you look back at my past post ( which I assume you keep) you
would not read anything close to that.I forgive you. We all make
Let the Cougar "Quest for Perfection" begin.
I thought BYU was going independent to AVOID playing the FROGS? I guesss
not...there must be million$ of other reasons???This would be a nice
Thanksgiving weekend game, and its good to see that the Cougs can still command
a multi-million dollar payout for a neutral site game like this for their
nationally respected audience of fans.The Utes would/have never been
invited to play in a game like this...
hedgehogI guess that's you telling us that you will begin your NC
talk in April this year. YOU were the one doing it last Fall before the TCU
Naked Truth,looks like you found your "happy place". I'm
smelling NC predictions no later than April again.Good news for all
those T-shirt vendors... happy days are hear again!!!!!!!!!!
RE: KH @ 12:42 PMIt's not who they played down the stretch, but how
they played. Certainly you can appreciated that. You have a point that a lot of
D-1 schools with that last 5 game to end the season schedule (6, including the
bowl game) would've been able to win 5 out of those 6 as well, but would they in
the impressive fashion that BYU did? And the Utah loss, you know and I know and
everyone else knows that BYU was the better team that entire game--on the road
no less--and Utah was VERY fortunate to come away with the scoreboard win. One
terrible fumble call and some VERY fortunate bounces, otherwise BYU goes home
No kh you are not "realistic" you are simply a troll trying to provoke
a reaction. I'll make a bet with you right now that BYU not only wins at least 9
games next year but also has a better record than utah who I predict will finish
5-7 and bowless.Do you have the courage of your
"convictions"? I doubt it.Here is the bet.If
you win I will post on these boards that kh is the greatest predictor in college
football and I will wear a ute shirt to work which I will buy. If you want to
know the time and place I will gladly give you that info so you can personally
come and confirm I kept my part and paid my debt. I will also post on this board
that your life partner christina b is the most beautiful gal in the world.If I win then you will post on this board that you are no more than a
troll, don't know anything about football and will call out wedgie, christina
and howard s for every trollish comment they make for a week.Deal?
RE: CougarBlue @ 5:54 PMBYU currently has 7 scheduled home games and
5 roadies. A 13th game at Jerry's World would be a neutral game.
Les Do IT!
I think it's funny that BYU is so optimistic about their football team next
year. They went 7-6 last year and they believe that they finished the year very
strong. Let's see who they played to finish out the year. Wyoming,
New Mexico, UTEP, Colorado State, and a loss to Utah. Note to BYU
fans, most college football teams would have finished "strong" easily
with that schedule. The only good team in the last 5 games that BYU played was
Utah. And Utah won that game. So keep on being optimistic. I'll
Hedgehog: You DO realize WHY we are called tds, right? After
dominating Utah in football for years and years, the name "BYU" loomed
large on your team's mind. Coach Meyer realized that he had to change that.
Being an incredibly astute man, he started refusing to call us by name. And it
worked. There was no longer that belief barrier for your players about beating
BYU in football.BUT, that was a decade ago. By continuing to have us
be "the team that can't be named," you continue to show us that fear
and respect we inspired. So, on behalf of myself and the other cougars, thank
Chris B is right...we are not scheduling enough cupcakes to pad our win total
... go to a BCS game ... or win another NC. What is Tom Holmoe thinking. Can
we trade him for Mr. Hill. He seems to know how to put together a winnable
schedule.Oh, and Chris, how much time do you spend on the computer in
order to be the first to comment on every BYU article? Get a life man.
Arizona and Arizona State can't wait for you uteys to join them. Now then
they'll have an old friend to share the back stoop with and all that mud that
the rest of the PAC wiped off on them. Now it will finally be their turn to
scrape their cleats on an even newer floor mat. Good luck uteys.
@sammygNo FEAR! Bring on the games! BYU will simply move on and
continue to gain in national relevance and respect.--------2-22 vs ranked teams, 3-3 Vegas, 1-0 New Mexico Bowl... yes your on your way
to national relevance, I wish you luck.This is good move for both
Big_BenDon't worry nobody takes Chris and Hedgie seriously and no
one judges the Utah fan base based on their stupid comments. Well I mean they
don't exactly make you guys look good, but we know most of you aren't like
that.This game would be cool. Interesting to see if it happens. They
really weren't kidding when they said by going independent they wanted to play a
lot of big games. Fine by me!
Get real BYU Fans! LOL A young QB, Unproven Off coord. and a bunch of average
WR's. BYU will be lucky to go 500 next year. No I'm serious you think your
gonna shock the college football world or something? You guys and you
No FEAR! Bring on the games! BYU will simply move on and continue to gain in
national relevance and respect.To you bitter and jealous
trolls...As mid-major fans who's team lost its bowl game, suffered 3
humiliating losses and (the list goes on) it must be hard to see all the
attention going to a rival school with a 7-6 team full of optimism which also
has a nationally ranked top 10 basketball team with a Jimmer weapon.We all look forward to next football season. Some more than others simply
because of the way the season ended. Optimism and momentum belong to BYU. I guess starting from scratch allows you Ute fans something to work
from. Somehow the PAC-10.2 option just does not look so 'rosie' as it did before
the Utes showed their true color. Red as in embarrassment.Lost any
more recruits since my last post?
Better increase the medical budget. If you thought last season's start was
rough you aint seen nothing yet.
No...this game helps nothing...but racks up injuries and garners a heap of tired
players.They need that week off. If BYU schedules this game, they
care NOTHING for the playersbut only care for the almighty $$$$$$.
I think Chris B lives next to his computer, checking it every 10 seconds for a
new post to pontificate about
Well for Starters Gary Patterson may have a small amount of input into
scheduling but he certainly doesn't have the final say. That's the A.D.'s Job.
And even MWC commissioner Craig Thompson will have his own input...which will
certaily be interesting to see what comes out of his office. If any body can
mess this up... he's the man. Obviously someone is showing someone the Money.
ESPN will certainly be waving some of that around. Hope that BYU does get the
13th game...it will greatly improve the breakout year SOS for sure.Scoobie
hedgyUtah has had half a century to schedule a home game with an
elite program 1 for 1, 1 for 2, 1 for 3, doesn't matter, and it's NEVER
happened.It's only been 6 months since BYU declared Independence, so
you'll just have to be a little patient on future scheduling.Recently, however, BYU played USC(2003/2004) and Florida State(2009/2010)
home-and-home.That's two elite programs that have visited Provo in
the last six years.Now, U show me yours!An actual elite
program that voluntarily chose to visit RES without being forced to by a
Dear Cougar Claws. They have only 12 games scheduled. Because they have Hawaii
on the schedule they can play 13 games. This game with TCU is now the 13th
game. This gives them 6 home games and 6 away games,Chris B. Must
feel good to have a zero credibility on your BYU predictions. Hedgehog is in the same category as Chris B. No credibility. Remember TDS means Touchdown School. Right on you naysayers.
I'm with Duckhunter on this one. Hedge and Chris always make me laugh so hard!
tds = Touch Down School. Besides Chris predicting our
losses is like a good luck charm now. Keep it up, Chris!
@sammyg"Lose" would only apply if they ever actually had
one. I personally don't think there really is any such thing as a utah football
This would be another quality game. Makes sense so bring on the competition.
Cougars won't be shakin' in their shoes like the Utes were last fall!On another note... how's that Ute recruiting working for you trolls? Lose
another one this week?
uh wedgie...BYU has gone 1 for 1 with Texas (BYU won both games) 1 for 1 with
USC, 1 for 1 with Penn State, 1 for 1 with Florida State, 1 for 1 with Texas
A&M, 1 for 1 with Washington multiple times, 1 for 1 with UCLA multiple
times, 1 for 1 with almost all of the pac 10 multiple times. The only school I
can think of that they haven't done that with is ND. Even the current deal with
Texas is 1 for 1. The 1st with Texas next year was set up on its own previous to
the current set up.But that said utah has never had an elite grogram
(other than BYU) come to its stadium for any reason at all. Never.LOL
Chris B is always the first to comment. Hey, Chris, I didn't see your post
after BYU lost in BB last night to SDSU. Oh, that's right, that was your
prediction - BYU actually won going away. Why should we think your prediction
of BYU's first 5 FB games next year would be any more valid than your prediction
of last night's game. Why not go get a job or do something else useful besides
making yourself look silly. Peace brother.
Swoop "Name me ONE elite program that has ever visited res."That's easy Swoop.BYU
Swoop 'Name me ONE elite program that has ever visited RES.'that's
an easy one! BYU
"and you can expect even more of them in the future now that BYU's schedule
isn't restricted by conference tie-ins."Sweep,OK
slugger, you let me know when the kewgs get 1 for 1 with an elite program. I'm
assuming you're eight years and you might just be lucky enough to witness it
once in your lifetime.NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
Hedgie,If you can smell some losses for next year you should probably look
a little closer to home. Try your socks, your shorts or your own school. Also;
try typing your comments in a word document, using spell check and then pasting
them into the comment boards. At least try to be funny in your obsessed
This is another one of those decisions, like going independent, that seems to
baffle all of us. What is BYU thinking, or better yet, what are they drinking.
Again, if this is for the money then go ahead and say it. If you are thinking
your program is at this level, stay home until you grow up. The Cougar football
program is still not headed in the right direction. Clean house on this coaching
staff and let's get some solid recruiting going and then in a about 3 years
start scheduling these types of games. Until you can walk the walk, no one is
Perhaps this game would present a viewership opportunity for the Big 12 (er, 10)
to consider...not that I care. I am fine with going indy - serving up fresh,
new meat for the boys in blue has no downside...Speaking of meat, as
in rancid, the mighty Utes are once again on top. They placed numero uno in the
bottom half of the ESPN PAC12 really, really preseason ranking. Personally I
don't see how they beat out OSU, it probably will not last for long - mark it
Slice and dice it anyway you like, but the only way the yewts will ever get
anybody of significance to come to RES is at the point of a conference
commissioner's gun.Notre Dame, Texas, Miami, Florida State, USC,
Penn State, and many, many other big name programs have already visited LES in
the past, most of the them one for one, and you can expect even more of them in
the future now that BYU's schedule isn't restricted by conference tie-ins.Utah is none for one with Notre Dame; none for two with Michigan. Name
me ONE elite program that has ever visited RES.
Sounds great 13-0 better than 12-0 for the Jake Heaps show and a BCS bid.
@Chris B & hedgehog:You two are obsessed with BYU Cougar sports
- aren't you. I can see why, though. The BYU Cougars are a total class act, and
you like to be associated with a class act, don't you. Question:
When the runnin' utes come to Provo on 2/12 what do you predict the for the
final score? Do you thing utah will get Jimmered again??
This is one Cougar who is looking forward to a rematch with TCU.Given a year or two experience, I think that we stand a serious chance of
beating them.Go Cougars!
Slice and dice it how you want kewgs. What won't change is a elite program
playing a 1 for 1 in Provo.Unlike Utah who will see Oregon,USC,
Stanford, UCLA on and EQUAL basis.The cards are stacked againts the
tds....just like our BCS brethrens like it.tds= BCS fodder
Hedgehog and Chris B are classics on this board, slight comic relief and proof
that there really are people out there were passed through school without any
academic skills, so the education system would not have to waste any more time
or money on them. Do not be angry with them, but pity their small but shallow
minds. They may be stupid, but they're not clever.
I hereby put foot in mouth. TCU needs you....no I need you BYU. I need your
glorious never-going-to-make-it-work independence money.Humbly
Wow, Big_Ben, you have to be the buzz kill here, don't you? We're just all
having fun. I'm having a blast. If Chis B and hedgehog are as well, then the
more the merrier!
hedgehogMaybe you should learn to read better the other paper does
not say that what it does say that it might not be played that weekend. It did
not say they were looking for a better game. If you also go to the front page
of college football on espn there is another article on it. So again go post on
your prappy Ute page. I agree with the other comment to have Hedgehog and
Crissy B not allowed to post anything again. Please just shut them up!
I disagree with everyone that wants christina and wedgie banned. Frankly they
are a huge part of the fun of this. Yes they are both barely litterate buffoons
but they are perfect examples of a large segment of utah "fans". They
expose themselves daily. The truth is they really do represent a large portion
of so called ute "fans".They are the ones swearing in
front of kids at the stadium. They are the ones throwing drinks on fans of
opposing teams. They are the ones behaving in base and classless ways. They are
the ones exposing the bigotry of many ute "fans". They represent all
that is low in utedom.Now don't misundertand me, they do not
represent all utah fans. But sadly most of those other utah fans are either to
scared to publicly object to these clowns behavior or else they tolerate it
because they know the utah fanbase is really quite tenuous. They feel they need
their numbers to portray a large fanbase so they are willing to tolerate
individuals like them to try and perpetuate the myth of utah having a large
number of fans.
ESPN is also reporting that"TCU and BYU, now former Mountain
West Conference rivals, are negotiating to play a nonconference football game at
Cowboys Stadium, possibly during Thanksgiving weekend."but,
caution, that the game has not been finalized.
This is the last time i will talk about this.hedge and chris have no
other purpose than to get you to react. you aren't clever when you come up with
a funny retort, you just fuel their immaturity and no matter how clever your
response is, they laugh at your expense. Stop taking them so seriously and just
discuss the issues please.
hedgehog,I'm still laughing at some of the things you say. Jumped
the shark? You obviously have no idea what that means. Do you think maybe you
meant "jumped the gun"? To understand what "jump the shark"
means, see the fifth season of Happy Days.
hedgehog:See that word "may" in the title? It's an
auxilary verb used to express possibility, opportunity or contingency. It
doesn't convey anything definitive so, yeah, the author got it right. We won't
even get into the difference between jumping the shark and jupming the gun.
Here's an example of jumping the shark: Utah Utes 2010 BCS Champions.
hedgehogI'm not sure that waking someone who seems to be in a
perpetual sports reality stupor is possible.
BYU will already have wins against pac-12 and others, why not beat a rebuilding
TCU team?Go Y
Re: hedgehogSource!!I'm pretty sure if offered to play
BYU, on ESPN, in Jerry's World, with the type of payday that would come along
with it, TCU would jump at it.I know that it must be hard for your
ilk to comprehend such a thing.
As far as anything a certain Ute Fan (Christie B) says.... I would always bet
opposite of him....your track record stinks Christie....lol
hedgehog | 2:30 p.m. Jan. 27, 2011 Ann Arbor, MIWake me up when the
tds acutally get a real program to come to Provo.----------Man, I'm with you. Why are they bringing those crappy utes in next year
instead of a real program?
Actually the Dnews jumped the shark. TCU beat writers are reporting the TCU
will NOT be playing BYU ove the holiday. TCU is looking for a marquee opponent.
Check out the "other" newspaper for details...
Gary Patterson is just a blowhard saying he wouldn't play BYU again after they
announced they were leaving the MWC. Then Patterson and his thugs announce they
are going to the Big East (Big Thug) conference. His main man Dalton is gone
with some other key components of his all-thug team. I hope BYU doesn't play
them again. The horny toads will find out what it's like playing east of the
Mississippi. I hope they go 0-12 in 2011 their last MWC year. I have no
respect for them and their attitude. They are as bad as Wyoming was back in the
60's and 70's when BYU was maligned about so-called racism at the Y.
This phenomenon could prove to be radical to the max!!! Go Cougars!!!
Hey Deseret News, VIRUS ALERT! Add a buffer to your system to block off hedgehog
and Chris B. Come on Holmoe, go ahead add one more game which will
bring joy to Jerry Jone.
"Wake me up when the tds acutally get a real program to come to
Provo"Why? So you can proceed to belittle the "real"
program and spin it in whatever way possible to make it look like you're right?
Wake me up when you post an intelligent comment.
hedgehog, I have one word for you: Proofread."foder(cupecake)
"Glodetrotters....""for you big brother Utah""5 loses""if your lucky"Your (or is it
you're?) 3rd grade English teacher must be so proud (or did you not make it that
Once TCU left for the Big lEast, Patterson gave up the high road and facilitated
hedgehog | 2:30 p.m. Jan. 27, 2011 Ann Arbor, MI Wake me up when the
tds acutally get a real program to come to Provo.Again,
foder(cupecake) for the elite. Washingtion Generals for the Glodetrotters....Thank goodness for you big brother Utah in lending a hand in your time
of need.I'm smelling at least 5 loses and November bowl game on ESPN
Mexicano...if your lucky ----------------------------You
literally could not make yourself sound less intelligent than you just did.
Did he actually say ...Slaughter by Utah? what was it 16-15 on a botched ref
call? and who won the last two years before that....? Oh thats Right!! It was
BYU!!This is a great matchup and I am glad to see it happen...TCU is
a class org and it will only help BYU with recruiting in Texas......Can't wait to celebrate the Days of 47 again when Utah comes to BYU next
Really though, with the departure of Andy Dalton, Jeremy Kerley, and others on
their team, and not to mention how tough they were played this past season the
first half with our all-freshman team, I really like our chances against the
Frogs if the Cougs play them next season. I actually had BYU as the favorite of
they would have come to Provo in 2011 as an in-conference matchup. We'll see
what happens though. I thought that BYU had their 2011 schedule figured out.
Would perhaps the Idaho St. game get dropped? What ever happened to "TCU
never wants to schedule BYU again?"
Re: XelaDaveDon't really think it has much to do with money.
Patterson just doesn't want to go to Provo. BYU will be able to schedule good
road games, but if they want anyone good to come, they'll have to do a 2 for 1
(2 road games for BYU and 1 home game), see Texas and ND
Chris B | 2:00 p.m. Jan. 27, 2011 Salt Lake City, UT LOLAs if getting slaughtered by Texas, Ole Miss, Utah, South Florida, and Oregon
State weren't enough? You add TCU?We look forward to a
1-5 start, if you find a way to beat South Florida.Looking forward
to it! ===Chris B. | 7:50 p.m. Jan. 26, 2011 Midvale, UT Jimmer will try to be a hero and ruin the game for his team.
Gay will be all over Jimmer and he will selfishly ruin it for his team.San Diego 70 tds 60Looking forward to a great game for all
of us who love to hate byu. ===What was your prediction of the
Vegas Bowl again? You were going to remind us...Remember?Your prediction here bode very well for BYU football next year.Thanks for the input.
Wake me up when the tds acutally get a real program to come to Provo.Again, foder(cupecake) for the elite. Washingtion Generals for the
Glodetrotters.... Thank goodness for you big brother Utah in
lending a hand in your time of need.I'm smelling at least 5 loses
and November bowl game on ESPN Mexicano...if your lucky
At least it points out Patterson saying he would not be playing BYU- at the time
he seemed pretty smug about it- I guess things change- wonder if $$$$ had
anything to do with his change of heart?
Cougars aren't afraid to play ANYONE, unlike our friends up north.If
I had my way this game with TCU would replace the Utah game - on an annual
Considering the last three games played against TCU, I might not be too excited
about the matchup but considering the maturation of Heaps we observed over the
second half of last season, plus the fact that Andy Dalton will be graduated, I
like our chances.Good to see Chris B's prediction however.
Considering his track record with BYU Bball games this year, chalk up a possible
TCU game next year as a win for BYU! Woo Hoo!!!
More college football is always a good thing! Despite the departure
of Andy Dalton and a handful of other players, TCU will still likely be Top-25
team next year. This would greatly help BYU's SOS as their current 2011 schedule
only has three teams which had winning records this year. Make it happen Holmoe!
I have always loved Jerry Jones and this gives me even more reason. I am glad
Jerry loves the cougars as well. maybe he is only using them to sell out his
stadium though....I am so relieved I have Heaps to fill the hole in
my heart after Jimmer leaves.
LOLAs if getting slaughtered by Texas, Ole Miss, Utah, South
Florida, and Oregon State weren't enough? You add TCU?We
look forward to a 1-5 start, if you find a way to beat South Florida.Looking forward to it!