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Published: Tuesday, Jan. 25 2011 10:48 p.m. MST

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nottyou
Riverton, UT

The pieces were in place at UCLA too...that worked out well for them!

Hawk
Littleton, CO

AND we've learned that his offense has been ineffective in the PAC10, having been given the keys to the two 'legendary' programs of the conference, yet unable to sustain success (or keep the job) at either. I still don't quite get this hire. Love Norm Chow and he has built a fantastic career and reputation for himself. And while I'm OK with 'retro', it's odd that in an era of innovative offenses and with two bright, young, energetic minds on staff, Kyle chose to go with the best offense of the 80's. Hmmmmm....

Utes21
Salt Lake City, ut

Riverton High had all the pieces to..... until they played Bingham. Whats your point? He is in a completely different situation coming to the U. Ucla has its problems starting with there head coach. He wanted to run a pistol offense with a qb and o line who werent capable, evidence of this is total production in yards on offense last year. Chow tried his best with what he had to work with which wasnt much. They also had less talented players. The Utes have more talent. Granted Wynn has critics, majority are troll tds fans but he will get his chance in Chow's offense. If he falters they will mix it up with another qb. You cant write off the fact that Chow knows how to develop NFL caliber qb's starting at byu then usc. I hope that he is able to shake things up with the offense.

RobSing
Minneapolis, MN

hmmmm? I sense a byu fans doing everything in their power to downplay Norm Chow's arrival at Utah and trying to come up with as many negatives as possible. You are sad sad people.

Dutchman
Murray, UT

My question is, if Wynn is not healed and ready for spring ball how is he going to be the starter at QB in the fall? Chow is going to put his offense in during spring drills. If Wynn is not available my guess is he red shirts and the QB duties are handed to someone else.

nottyou,

UCLA never handed Chow the complete run of the offense. Nueheisel was a QB himself and an offensive coordinator for the Balitmore Ravens for one. Rick always had he fingers in the offense and never allowed Chow full control. It didn't work at UCLA. So what?

Hawk,

You are kidding, right? Two national championships at USC and two Heisman trophy winners? It worked at USC because Carroll did let Chow run the show. As for why Chow left to join the Titans I am not sure. Maybe it was more money. If you know something more that you can support please let me know. I would like to know myself.

Hawk
Littleton, CO

Sorry, Rob, don't let me rain on your parade -- to be fair, I DO get all of the PR, mentoring, national reputation, "former ute comes home", PAC10 experience, etc. benefits for utah, so I don't want to 'downplay' his arrival at all. But how long is a high-potential guy like Roderick (who in reality takes a demotion with this move) willing to stick around? Just sayin'....

Hawk
Littleton, CO

Yeah, Dutchman, and Gary Crowton was BRILLIANT in his first year -- "sustain" being the operative phrase here. With the utes moving on, I'm happy for them AND Norm and am very interested to see how this plays out....

WhoAmISir
Holladay, UT

Hawk - I have read A LOT about the situation with Chow and here is MHO. He is here to help with the transition AND at the same time take 3 high potential, high performing coaches and help them reach their highest potential and performance. After a few years, 2 or 3, I expect him to as he said it "ride off into the sunset". Leaving Utah with highly polished assistant coaches, Offensive Coordinators and head coaches in waiting. Now the trick is with those pedigrees can we keep those coaches for succession purposes? Again this is all my assumption so all I can do is get in what looks like a hotrod built for endurance and enjoy the ride. I hope all in the state of Utah can join in and enjoy it too!

Dutchman
Murray, UT

Hawk,

You didn't answer my question. I respectfully want to know why Chow left USC for the Titans. If you have reliable information please share it. Thanks.

pocyUte2
Pocatello, Id

Riles

Don't forget about one Lucky Radley. I expect him to be a big contributor this season.

Go Utes

Big_Ben
Centerville, UT

"History tells us that Chow's offensive setups have almost always consisted of two backs, a tight end and three wide receivers"

Ummm bill......2 backs + 1 tight end + 3 receivers + 5 offensive lineman + 1 quarterback = 12 players.

nice math.

Pavalova
Surfers Paradise, AU

I think he'll do well at the U. He's a good man and has a good heart as well. I think he and Whit and the rest of the staff will work well together. Good luck Utes.

joek
Bountiful, UT

Hawk,

I significantly dispute your claim that Chow is from the 80's, can't keep a job, and can't sustain a program.

He is an 80's coach?

1999 Assistant COY, 2002 Top Collegiate assistant coach, 2002 Coordinator of the year.
Coaching positions: 01-04 USC, 05-07 Titans, 08-10 UCLA
You don't win those awards or coach at those schools if you aren't great at what you do, those are all within the last 10 years.
If you look at the QB awards that list doubles including Heisman Trophy awards and Rookie of the Year Awards.

Can't sustain?

-BYU 1982-1999 highly sustained program do you dispute? Called Quarterback U during his tenure. How many great QBs?
-USC was called the PAC1+0 during his offensive reign, sustained a program during his tenure.

Unable to keep a job?
If you call getting a promotion unable to keep a job than your crazy.

joek
Bountiful, UT

To say that he has lost his edge looking at either the titans or UCLA is wrong in my opinion.

The Titans were a bad team when he got there and their record improved each year he was there. Rookie of the Year QB during his time.

Could have been fired for any number of reasons including: coach needed a fall guy, didn't get along with coach, or Chow was more of a college coach type guy (Nick Saben great college poor pro coach).

If Tennessee had any bearing UCLA wouldn't have hired him and paid him more than a million dollars.

I don't believe you can say he is slipping based on his experience at UCLA either. 1- he didn't have full control of the offense or the offensive style 2- his starting QB was injured (look at Oklahoma after Bradford was injured) 3- Rick Neuheisel is about to lose his job and needed somebody to blaim

I am very excited that we bring in a coach with such experience, success, and knowledge. What other coach could we get who knows three of our main rivals so well (BYU, USC, UCLA).

Duckhunter
American Fork, UT

I don't think the game has passed chow by although it is fun to tease utah "fans" with that. I have no doubt chow can still coordinate a good offense. The conern for ute "fans" shouldn't be chow. The conern should be the personel.

I think wynn is terrible. He is weak armed, inaccurate, immoble and a bit of a wimp that is scared to take a hit. That is not what you want in your qb.

The o-line was not good to finish the season and they lose some of them, probably the best of them. The rb's have never played a single second of D1 fball. The wr's will probably be ok and they have a track record of good wr's so that probably isn't a worry. But the TE isn't a position they have recruited for over a decade. There is no reason to believe anyone they have on scholarship at that position is any good. No track record of having good ones and not using them doesn't inspire any confidence in what they have.

In short the concern should be the personel not the coach.

AltaHawkFan
Sandy, UT

Re: joke

Take off the rose colored glasses and try to be objective.

1. Chow does have experience in the Pac 10 which should be a positive, however, the Pac 10 is very familiar with Chow's offenses too which will be a negative.

2. Don't try to put lipstick on a pig. No matter how you spin it or the reasons why, Chow's offenses at UCLA and the Titans were horrible. The Titans record improved because their defense improved ... not the offense.

3. utah does NOT have more talent than UCLA. Look at recent recruiting classes. UCLA has had 3 consecutive top 10 recruiting classes .. utah is not even close.

4. Chow did have success at USC but they are on a whole different level as far as talent goes. In some respects, they were a Pro team playing college football.

Don't get your hopes up for next year. Despite what Bill wrote, the utes will be very shaky on offense next year. utah's QB and RB situations are scary at best. Trying to implement a new offensive scheme with unproven players is not a recipe for success no matter how you spin it.

3grandslams
Iowa City, IA

I've always like Chow, he's a man's man to a fault, but does this mean Utah will abandon the offense that was given them on a silver platter by Coach Myer?

If Utah goes to the BYU offense of the 80 & 90's and the USC offense of the 2000, next year will have a major learning curve. It is complex and takes time to get to full speed.

I don't agree that Chow failed at UCLA, I think Neuhisel failed to use Norm Chow.

Magna Ute Fan
Magna, UT

We've been hearing these doomsday speeches from the likes of Duckhunter and Xpat for decades now. You keep wishing and hoping for our demise, we'll just keeping building our program.

Hawk
Littleton, CO

Dutchman, Chow left for USC while he was playing a hot hand -- can't blame him a bit for wanting to try the big stage, to strike while the iron was hot. Except for Titans, he as had a record of initial success, but difficult to sustain over 3-4 years. At BYU once he was actually named OC, he was a GREAT caretaker of that offense initially, but unlike Painter, Scoville, Tollner, etc. before him, was unable to evolve and innovate. Fans became restless as defenses "caught up" and his offense became pedestrian and predictable. GREAT 1st season at NCSU, but after the second year of struggling, he would have been stupid not to jump to USC if they were interested.

Duckhunter
American Fork, UT

@ magna ute fan

Decades huh? LOL

Considering the utah football team has only been good for about 7 years, and then only a couple of years have been really good, I don't think you have been hearing anything from anyone for "decades".

But I gave an honest assessment of where I htink they will be next year and why I think it. I would love to hear your reasons why you disagree since it is obvious that you do. Do you actually think those things I listed shouldn't be a concern? If they shouldn't be what are your reasons to believe they aren't?

I'm willing to have an honest discussion with you about it minus all the jokes and insults. Let's hear your reasons why the offense will be good next year.

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