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Mike Sorensen: Could Jimmer Fredette win national player of year but not MWC?

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  • Teddy Bear Las Vegas, NV
    Jan. 24, 2011 9:14 p.m.

    I think people are giving Jimmer POY and MWC POY far too early. We're not even half way through the conference schedule yet. The way he has played certainly makes him deserving to be in the discussion, but lets not count chickens before they hatch.

  • hedgelog Idaho Falls, ID
    Jan. 24, 2011 3:13 p.m.

    Good luck Norm, you're going to need it!

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    Jan. 24, 2011 3:09 p.m.

    Sorenson is a mwc troll! Floating the idea early to condition everyone. Either that or he is crazy. Based on prior articles by him I favor the latter.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Jan. 24, 2011 2:43 p.m.

    Anyone who has actually watched Jimmer play knows he is the best the conference has had in a long time. Now is he an NBA player? Who knows? Doesn't matter. He is better than any player in the MWC on his worst night.

    He possesses a skill-set that makes him a special player. No one can guard him one-on-one. His defense is average at best but from an offensive view, best in the nation. Not even open for debate in the MWC. He is years ahead of all the rest.

    And no I am not a BYU fan by any means. Go Rebels!!

  • Unsamana Provo, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 2:35 p.m.

    Here's a Y fan who thinks Norm Chow's hiring at the U is a great fit for both the school and the coach. I hope it works out well for both of them.

  • Go Big Blue!!! Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 1:53 p.m.

    Lucky for y that Jimmer didn't play well at the end of last season or he would have moved on. You can certainly blame it on mono, but that fact is that Jimmer was not as good as hyped last year.

    We really wont know how great Jimmer is this year until we see him play in March, and see how long he plays in March. Player of the year needs to carry his team deep into the tournament. Something that no team from Utah has done since the days of Majerus.

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    Jan. 24, 2011 12:54 p.m.

    @Go Big Blue
    "jimmer fizzled last year"??
    What are you talking about. Jimmie-Chocolate had mono and was basically sleepwalking for 4 weeks in a row, but still turned in some fantastic performances.

    There is much hoops to be played no doubt and I am sure that JF doesn't care one bit about being mentioned in any award circles till season's end.

    Stay healthy and let the game do the talking.

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 12:05 p.m.

    DixieAggie

    Results vs RPI 1-50, 51-100, 101-150, 151-200, 200+

    BYU 7-1, 3-0, 6-0, 2-0, 3-0
    USU 0-2, 0-0, 2-0, 6-0, 10-0

    FOURTEEN of BYU's 20 D-I opponents have been Top 150 RPI.

    SIXTEEN of USU's 20 D-I opponents have been 151+ RPI.

    Check mirror before talking about cupcake schedules.

  • Solomon the Wise Alpine, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 11:34 a.m.

    DixieAggie

    Cupcakes?

    BYU is currently #1 in RPI with a SOS of #20.

    Utah State is #43 RPI with a SOS of #205.

    btw, it's not smart to try to minimize an opponent, especially one you lost to.

    UCLA, for example, is 13-6, with a #47 RPI, only 4 places lower than Utan State, #43 RPI. Hardly what could be considered a "mediocre team" by any knowledgeable fan.

    Actual facts don't support your biased "cupcake" opinions.

  • GW Lindon, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 11:31 a.m.

    @DixieAggie

    Arizona was a cupcake?

  • DixieAggie St.George, Utah
    Jan. 24, 2011 11:00 a.m.

    We're only half way through the season. BYU has mostly played cupcakes, with exception of U. State and St. Mary's. And they lost to a mediocre UCLA team. They certainly came out on top vs. Utah State, but that's a non-conference game. The real test will be the two games against SDSU. We'll see if the Cougars are really up to the task.

  • AS San Marcos, CA
    Jan. 24, 2011 10:54 a.m.

    Give Jimmer both individual awards (national and MWC POY)... SDSU is a team, look at their stats. They'll be happy with the team awards (MWC Title, and Tournament Title).

  • Julianne North Salt Lake, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 10:12 a.m.

    Jimmer deserves both the national and MWC players of the year award. He is a good player and I am proud to say that I am a BYU fan. Keep up the good work Jimmer and this might be the year we get into the sweet 16 or better.

  • moodyblue77 Provo, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 10:10 a.m.

    Jimmer was no voted POY by the MWC last year and yet was District VIII player of the year. Go figure.

    Jimmer is still seen by many MWC fans and even more MWC press as someone who really does not possess any real skill. He's just incredibly lucky.

    The fact that Jimmer had mono last year and still played the way he did would have made tremendous headlines in the MWC. And he would have been MVP, POY, etc.

    We saw all the love and respect BYU's fellow conference members have had toward BYU in the way the MWC has dealt with them over the years.

    Thank goodness Texas wanted to build the greatest college sports media network ever and the Utes could therefore get invited to leave the MWC. That gave BYU the courage to go. And TCU the courage to follow.

    Go Utes, Cougars, and Toads. Well, maybe not toads.

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 10:07 a.m.

    From a Ute -- Jimmer is the conference player of the year. Anyone with doubts just needs to watch the replay of the BYU-Utah game. The kid is unbelievable.

    It wouldn't surprise me to see him do the same thing to the Aztecs.

  • In My Humble Opinion South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 10:01 a.m.

    Chow too old? Game passed him by?

    Dom Capers, D-Cordinator of the Packers turns 61 this year. Dick LeBeau of the Steelers is 73.

  • So. Cal Reader Escondido, CA
    Jan. 24, 2011 9:35 a.m.

    As an SDSU alumn, who got tired of waiting for ANY of their athletic programs to generate a winning program & migrated over to Cougs Blue once my children began attending BYU, I cannot wait for Weds game. Cougs, don't disappoint. We need a dominating effort to silence the Aztecs fans who are losing any sense of reality with each win. OK, I'll face it, I live Steve Fisher, but the fans? Oh, you can have them. I cannot imagine Ewete fans are any worse.

  • Go Big Blue!!! Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 9:35 a.m.

    Jimmer fizzled last year. There is a lot of bball to be played this season. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 9:16 a.m.

    Another good reason to leave the MWC!

  • BP Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 8:37 a.m.

    Jimmer=POY

    Chow=Great hire

  • Big_Ben Centerville, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 8:31 a.m.

    This happened to Shaky Smithson. He was named second team all-mwc special teams, but first team all-american in more than one publication.

    But I don't see it happening to Jimmer. The only way it happens is if SDSU blows BYU out in both games, and that is flat out not going to happen. Jimmer is head and shoulders above everyone else.

  • Idaho guy Meridian, ID
    Jan. 24, 2011 8:05 a.m.

    Jimmer not winning last year was a bit of a joke, as everyone in the nation declared "Who is Darrington Hobson?" in unison...

    The MWC has already made a mockery of Player of the Week honors when Jimmer is featured on SportsCenter for his 39 point road performance against UNLV, and yet only gets co-player of the week honors with Malcolm Thomas (again nation said, "Who?") who had double doubles against TCU and Utah both of whom were playing their worst ball of the year....

    Kawhi Leonard is a great prospect for the NBA and is having a good year no doubt, but there are games where he simply disappears, and he is not even recognized by his own coach as the best player on his own team. Fisher gives that honor to Gay. Fredette to this point is undoubtedly the MWC POY. Could that change? Sure, but not if he continues to play like he is. Besides BYU is just as likely to continue their dominance over SDSU as a team, and if they win or tie the conference with SDSU no other team has a superstar...

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    Jan. 24, 2011 7:55 a.m.

    Doesn't take a Rocket Scientist to figure this out...even the WAC is less whackier than the MWC with Craig Thompson at the helm as Commissioner. Don't look for any kind of logic from that office...That ship sailed and got torpedoed out of the water just as soon as he was named. So I wouldn't worry about it...POY carries much more prestiege and is based on actual logic.

  • jazzbball Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 7:45 a.m.

    KamUte makes a great point.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Jan. 24, 2011 7:36 a.m.

    Unfortunately, political correctness and bias is very much a part of sports today. The Church's standards on sexual morality kept BYU out of the PAC. ESPN has their own liberal agenda and which will work against Jimmer. I hope he wins, but it is an up hill road for him. I doubt that Danny Ainge could win it were he playing today.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Jan. 24, 2011 7:20 a.m.

    The one thing Sorenson forgot to mention is that none of the previous players were also making a national buzz for National POY. It would make the MWC look silly if the nation recognizes Fredette but not his own conference. And the way the MWC is run, it wouldn't surprise me at all.

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 6:53 a.m.

    As a departing member, the league no longer cares about you. It is funny how Shaky Smith gets national props and nothing in the MWC. Jimmer deserves the credit.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Jan. 24, 2011 6:36 a.m.

    Jimmer has plenty of motivation for the game this week! Just watch and see, he will be amazing!

  • alternate Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 6:27 a.m.

    What you wrote about Jimmer is a very shallow right now. What you said is not news. Everyone who follows the MWC fully understands that no champs have been crowned yet. And know what! It is way to early to speculate. No question the winner of MWC may be SDS. But it also may be BYU. Right now I see 5 games as key to determining the MWC champ. BYU/SDS (both games). BYU at NM because SDS already won there. SDS at CSU because BYU already won there. And San Diego at UNLV for the same reason. There could also be an upset which changes things. Your Utes could pull off a win in San Diego or Provo. There could also be a unique situation of two 15-1 teams with no tie-breaking rules that work because they are exactly even. My point, as already said, weak story. Maybe would have been better saved for Thursday. And then maybe not at all. Kind of of like your trifecta football story that should have never been written.

  • Granny Barton Woods Cross, Utah
    Jan. 24, 2011 2:39 a.m.

    Whenever I see a complaint about an news article being a waste of time, I wonder why they bothered to read it. Personally, I enjoy the bits of information that were written.

  • Delmar the Amazing Las vegas, NV
    Jan. 23, 2011 11:34 p.m.

    What a waste of an article.

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    Jan. 23, 2011 11:19 p.m.

    Nothing about the MWC surprises me anymore.

    This new twist of possibily winning national POY, but not MWC POY is just another gauntlet being thrown at Jimmer's feet.

    Another Jimmer is "supposedly" the best player in the MWC challenge?

    Too bad this article was written by a DN writer rather than a SD Union Trib writer.

    That's all SDSU needs. A more motivated Jimmer.

    Wednesday's matchup is going to be epic!