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Published: Saturday, Jan. 22 2011 1:17 a.m. MST

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Janell
Ventura, Ca

When Luz Robles ran for office, she didn't have illegal immigration as one of her platforms. Now she seems to be only focusing on one issue...any form of amnesty for illegal immigrants.
She needs to go.

JBrady
Murray, Ut

People are asked to leave venues on private property all the time after the event has ended.

c00kster
Provo, Utah

I find it interesting that Daniel Arguleta made such a fuss(I watched his video of the incident. "Don't touch me" with a nod to MC Hammer.) about being asked to leave private property. So, the property owners ask someone to leave and they put up a fuss, despite the fact that to remain there would have been a crime? (Trespassing.) Why does this sound familiar? Oh yeah...it reminds me of the illegal aliens and their sobsisters putting up a fuss about being asked to leave the United States.

Throw them out and send their anchor babies with them AND heavily fine or imprison their employers who looked the other way. (The sword cuts both ways.) Let them follow the proper path to legal immigration and work hard to fix the system so our great land can accept millions of our downtrodden neighbors in an orderly fashion.

Let market forces determine what a fair wage is once the illegals are gone.

Doug10
Roosevelt, UT

It makes little sense to ask outlaws how the laws should be upheld. That would be similar to asking the inmates how a prison should be run.

People were crying and hollering at Utah's last execution but it did not change the law..or the outcome.

Gentile
brookings, SD

It is a federal isssue. Apparently many good citizens have not read the Constitution. Utah can send some money to the federal govt. (instead being a welfare state) with a request that the feds do more in illegal immigration control.
If I paid taxes in Utah to the Utah govt. I would be screaming, "Don't you dare do that!" I want my money for state appropriate activities, paying for better schools and such. If one has a problem with the fed. govt. and its policies and actions, then one tells one's fed. reps. to push it through Congress and convince the President of your case.

Sounds interesting, energizing everyone to watch out for those illegals, when we should be watching out for the collusion between big business and big state govt. and the church.

stevo1
Linden, MI

Our Government, has allowed the invasion of 30 million criminals in direct violation of Article IV, Section IV of our Constitution. they force American tax payers to pay Billions to provide Welfare, Prison cells, Educate the invaders children, free medical care,massive document fraud, & are destroying our schools, hospitals, communities, culture while Robbing, Raping, Killing & Assaulting American Citizens WAKE UP PEOPLE!
obama and holder need to be IMPEACHED! for not upholding the oath of office they swore to defend the Constitution! If these clowns were to do their job, this would all be a Moot point!
Anchor babies and their criminal parents go, period, and cut the phony tears, you knew you were breaking the law when you crossed the border.

shut down any business hiring illegal labor and confiscate all property belonging to the owner. Property will be sold at auction and the proceeds to pay for the massive deportation. Oh and owners go to jail.
Got a better idea? Lets hear it!

DixieAggie
St.George, Utah

Several latino men were asked to leave just for mingling? It is apparent that racism is rampant in Utah. I am Latino and I very much understand the rule of law. But it is not lawful for the state of Utah to create a law that lies in the purview of the Federal government. It is blatantly unconstitutional for a state to enforce Federal law. To do so is an affront to the Founding Fathers and the Constitution itself. When will Utah stop being a rebellious state?

mohokat
Ogden, UT

I hope the lawmakers do not wuss out. It is time to get tough on the illegals. They will self deport if it is uncomfortable to be here. What does it take for these pinheads to define illegal? Sutherland is only looking out for business. Cheap labor at the rest of our expense. I need cheap gas for my business. Should the rest of you pay for me to have cheap gas? Same old Same old

Esquire
Springville, UT

Federal authorities are vigorously enforcing the law, more under the Obama Administration than ever before. The problem is huge. one of the biggest problems is that U.S. businesses like the cheap labor and are creating opportunities for illegal aliens. Look at yourself. But let me go out on a limb, because it will be a pretty safe limb, anti-immigrant people would not like aliens who have a different skin color and accent/language even if they were here legally. You can interpret that any way you like and take it to the bank.

jmfay
denver, co

If the feds wont do the job; its up to the states because the states are the ones who pay the largest costs due to medicaid matches, jail costs, education, etc.

Are our lawmakers going to do the job they were elected to do or just pass the buck to the feds who also arent doing it?

We for one are fed up with all the budget cuts being made so we can pay for anchor babies and illegals. Past time to get rid of federal mandates like educating all kids regardless of status and paying for the cost of anchor babies with a law from 1868. 2 Supreme court rulings and or Congress clarifying the 14th would go a long way to solving this country and our states fiscal problems. You know they are not going to rule the wrong way due to the current makeup.

CJ
Murray, UT

What a farce some of these people are. Luz Robles argues on the one hand that it isn't the state's job to enforce immigration laws and on the other hand she thinks it IS the state's job to grant permits to illegals to break the law and stay here and work.What a contradiction!
She makes no sense at all and is totally out of her league intellectually. she is a representative of a group of law breaking criminals and has no right to be in the Utah legislature at all. I wonder how many of the people who voted for her did so legally and how many just showed up and voted.
Shurtleff and other law enforcement hacks who show up at these events and argue that they shouldn't be forced to do their jobs are a disgrace to the state and should be shown the door. The bottom line is that the majority of voters in Utah want the law enforced and illegals sent home, all of these open borders advocates are irrelevant. Support Sandstrom and let's send a message.

joelwisch
Albuquerque, NM

His opponents, however, countered that it is not Utah's job to take on immigration enforcement in the vacuum of a failed federal policy.
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How dramatic. It is not failed.. it was simply abused and underfunded. It can be enforced, and has been enforce in the past, and very successfully.

Government is there to protect the people. Interior enforcement of the Immigration Law is the way to do that, and that ..is.. the job of the State where the Federal Government refuses to do that. Sadly, the Federal Government used this ploy to get cheap workers and now the issue has to be sorted out, and until the States start the process.. show willingness.. it won't be done. So it is VITAL that Utah carry forward with its immigration efforts.

JMT
Springville, UT

For me the root of this is deeper. Ultimately we are fighting over two things: First, resources and second culture.

Let's face it, America is a socialist nation. We have redistribution of wealth programs all over the place. Where we differ from Europe, China and the former Soviet Union is are pro-business environment and the enforcement of programs. Since we have been very open about business and property rights we have had a much stronger economy. The weaker the economy the more force is needed to comply with these programs. As our economy weakens we fight over resources more.

The second is culture. In the old days it didn't matter where you came from, you would learn the language, keep your culture but over time become very much American. Now days we abhor this. We "celebrat" everything, to include cultures that fail. This reminds me of the native people in the Amazon basin. Like some science expirement liberals insist the outside world have no contact with them in some false notion that it is best to celebrat who they are. Almost like people in a zoo. Disturbs me.

We are doing the same with immigrants.

Tom
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I went to the debate last evening and it was very interesting. The boo's and cat calls were almost 100% from the anti-immigration side. There was some clapping from those who recognize that these people are real human beings and that they are in a hard position. This has been created by 40 years of not dealing with the problem of having jobs that need to be filled to expand the U.S. economy and not allowing enough individuals to enter legally. I know that some people say that if we got rid of undocumented people unemployed Americans would take their jobs but there have not been many unemployed computer programmers willing to move their families to sparsely populated areas of Utah to shear sheep, or harvest crops, or clean hotels. We need to fix the system, those who can not see this fact are blinded by emotions that have a negative nature. For those how can understand that these are real human beings and the vast majority are very good hard working people please step up and sign the Utah Compact.

kstep15
Logan, UT

I'll say it again. AZ is the backbone of our country. Illegal means ILLEGAL!! Utah should follow suit!!

JanSan
Pocatello, ID

I for one am really tired of people like ESQUIRE saying that anyone who is tired of all the mess the illeagals cause in this country and really only prejudice.
I truly feel for the people who were brought here as children or were born here and this is the only country that they know.
But I am concerned about having a border that can be crossed so easily that thousands are doing it. If the Latin Americans can do it what is going to stop terrorist from doing it? How does having an open conduit for terrorist makeing our country safe?

I also don't like the way they are using up our money... weather in be in welfare,schooling, social secuity, health care etc.. this should go to the leagal citiczens of this country not someone who is "breaking and entering' our country.

Let me get this stright!!!! I DON'T CARE what the color of there skin is ! What I TRULY care about is if they are legal citizens or not.

ProudUtahn
St. George, Utah

My wifes grandfather came to this country under immigration policies and became a citizen.
1. he had to have a sponser 2. he had to list his destination in the United States where he was going. (in other words had to have a plan and a means to carry out that plan before comming here.)
when he arrived he stopped speaking his native language (which I do not agree with) because he wanted be become American. I have no problem people speaking other languages, only they need to read, write and speak english. Illegal is Illegal send them and their kids back and make a clear policy how they can work towards comming back legally. With their employers and neighbors that do not want them to leave they should be able to find a sponser. The States should have their laws on immigration. fed can't and shouldn't be every where at one time. bring it down to communities and the issue will become more manageable.

CJ
Murray, UT

To DixieAggie,

You say you are Latino and that it is "unconstitutional for a state to enforce federal law" and yet your appointed hero, Luz Robles, is trying to get the state to pass a law that overrides federal law and grants amnesty in the form of work permits to illegals. What do you actually believe in? Anything that allows your people to break the law and loot the state treasury? None of your arguments make any sense, you are on both sides of the debate whenever it suits your purposes. Quit trying to rationalize law breaking and tell your countrymen to show they deserve to be here by coming here legally in the first place.

Hawkeye79
Iowa City, IA

Should someone who often speeds be exempt from the legal consequences of speeding simply because they haven't been pulled over yet?

Should someone who trespasses be allowed to remain on trespassed property simply because they have been there for a time?

Should illegal immigrants be allowed to remain in a country they illegally entered simply because they have been there for a time?

The children of illegal immigrants who were brought here have nobody to blame but their parents for their illegal status. Sadly, some parents choose to act selfishly without thinking about how their actions might adversely affect their family.

cvguy
Lehi, Utah

I am expected to follow the law, why do a number of Mexicans think they are above the law? If I am a little short on cash maybe I should rob a bank and say I only did it for my family and expect I should not get punished. Maybe everyone should be able to pick a law to break and not get punished for it, why do illegal immigrants want the right to break laws.

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