The Jazz could go 0-5 on this trip if they lose tomorrow. By the way "your
Hall of Famer genius" was such a genius using Elson ahead of Fes last night
was he not?For the excuse that Fes kills the Jazz from the line when
he gets 2-maybe 3 or 4 shots and the most he costs them during a game is 2
points; here is my comment:hee hee
@CJ Mileshere we go again...with the no time on the clock
excuse...just face it...the entire team was a mess...so far...they all of them
are performing below expectations...at the start of the season...i was expecting
a career year for CJ...but...he was a disappointment...Al Jeff...showed some
brilliance...but still not enough...everyone showed some flashes...but on the
next few games...vanishes...i wish they could bring back their desire to
win...at all cost...physical and hustle plays...clockwork offense...and solid
D...there's still another half of basketball to play...OT: im
praying the Chicago Bears wins against the Cheeseheads....i admit the Bears had
a very easy schedule...but still...im dreaming they win one...
Doc good to see you have become a fan.As for you Iowa......CJ is
always in the right place on offense. He is not the problem. The problem is
Jerry should run the offense around him while he is on the court. Instead Jerry
puts his shooters as the 4th option with 2 seconds on the shotclock.
When Deron complains that "we don't know the plays", that's troubling
after half the season has elapsed. With AK and Milsap having been around for
years in the same system, I have to assume he's talking about Bell and
Jefferson. How long is it going to take the newbies to learn the system? Jerry
said recently that "they still have to learn to play together". Will
they learn by playoff time?And, though he has been around for six
years now, I wouldn't be surprised if C.J. still doesn't know the plays. For
all his impressive talent, I'm not sure how "basketball smart" he is.
Hey Dustin C...no offence...but i think it was their defence and our lack of
If cj had 20-30 shots a game the Jazz would be in the finals every year. Kobe
and Jordan are nothing compared to cj. cj is the best player in division maybe
the whole western conference. If Sloan would isolate cj every time down and let
him take it Jazz would be leading the west.
So much Whining!!!This is the NBA. You know, the world's best
basketball players. Every team has good players or they wouldn't be playing in
the NBA. It's hard to win on the road period. Again, when Jerry
doesn't get CJ involved in the offense, the Jazz lose. It's simple math. Give
CJ the ball and the Jazz win. Freeze him out and the Jazz win. 10 shots is not
enough for the talent that CJ possesses. He needs to take around 20 shots a
game for the Jazz to win.
Wondering if anyone can comment on the purported rumor that this team has tuned
out Sloan and it started last year?What do Deseret reporters and those
fans that go to alot of games think of the truth in that rumor?
I really think the jazz should shake up their starting line ups. Milsap is great
but he is too short and big Al plays a lot better at 4 position. Why don't we
start memo instead of milsap? That way we are taller and memo is more of a
scoring threat than milsap. Slow start was caused by the defense. It was offence
that slowed down the team in the first quarter.
This is typical Jazz. They started off the season well, but they'll be limping
into the playoffs as a fifth or sixth seed if they're lucky. The Jazz have
rarely pulled off any trade deadline trades. I see them hanging on to Kirilenko
through the season, and then re-signing him in the off-season. I would hope
they don't re-sign him for any more than $5 million per year over three years.
His best days have passed him by. He would best serve as a mentor for Hayward
and Evans and an extra punch coming off the bench.
Todd is right, the coach needs to accept the blame. The players must not
"fear" the coach if that's what D-Will can say publicly. Coach's
biggest problem is he doesn't think basketball is so important. Coach has a laid
back attitude & that will not get you far in the playoffs ( ie: past 12
years). Too bad coach will stick around another 2 1/2 years to break ALL Time
Wins Total for a coach. When you reach that age, everybody losses their drive
& determination. Throw ontop of that, a loss of life the coach had to deal
with in the early part of the last decade & you have a coach who sees the
importance of basketball thru a different pair of glasses. Utah will never win
with laid back Phil & coach, that's a given. Both seem to be very nice guys,
but being nice doesn't win Championships. Hopefully Jeff replaces coach in 2013
& he will bring his passion & grit to the Jazz that will lite a fire in
their bellies--promise ! I watched Jeff's career & his match-up battles with
M.J. in the finals--Jeff is a winner !
Truly comical.toddfromsantanna blame sloans system for not defending
the 3? Seriously? I have not checked recently but as of a couple of weeks ago
the Jazz were #! in the league in 3 point defense.Yet here we have
our resident expert blaming the coach for the players not guarding their own men
on the perimeter or not working hard enough to get through a screen. Ya, that
is the coaches fault.The of course we have Nunn singing the praises
of Fesenko who misses his freethrows 2/3rds of the time!! 2 out of every 3 he
misses!! Sloan would love to be able to leave him out there but hack-a-shaq
begins the moment he steps on the floor. Then the opposition gets the ball back
without us scoring anything.Stop blaming the coach for the players
lack of effort and hard work. All the players know they can beat almost any
team when they play defense the way they have been told and they say themselves
the same thing about the offense. The players only have themselves
to blame for losing a game like this.
The Jazz were starting to look alive at the end.It was just too little too
late.Too bad Sloan won't take a timeout when they are down 18-5.
Coach of the Year candidates don't do that.
The Jazz have peaked out at the halfway mark. They have the 8th worst record at
home of the top teams in the west. Their roady record after this current 5 game
trip will seal their doom the way things are going. The Smazz's start in
Washington, D.C. was atrocious. Any team with a McGee or a Blatche type player
gives the Jazz fits. And the Wizard guard Young.....what's a young killing them
in the 4th quarter like he did? Come on. And now New Jersey tomorrow....I
can't wait...with Boston, Philly and the Fakers...er Lakers to end the 5 game
barnstorming trip...coast to coaster.I am troubled by the lack of
intensity and inconsistency in this club. AK and the backups are not getting it
done at the 3 position. And again, Watson needs to start at the 1 and move
Deron to the 2. There is now backup at the 5. Okur is finished, trust me. The
Jazz is too small, with no feisty, or nasty attitude that is needed to make up
for their deficiencies in size.This team has peaked out and is
heading down withou a change.
Some of these cooments seem shallow. They are giving Jefferson immunity because
he had a good game against a poor team.Bell and AK usually show up
against a good team and play better. Jefferson is struggling to follow the ball
when it goes up. He can't rebound for the life of him.When DWill
says people don't know the plays he is not talking about AK or Millsap. When
Minnesota traded Jefferson to the Jazz they knew he was a work in progress.He plays defense or rebounds but he does not do both on the same play.
Jefferson gets lots of time playing but Millsap is ahead of him in ppm and
shooting percentage and rebounds.Jefferson can't get to the free
throw line as he does not drive with the ball in the paint. THat makes the Jazz
live and die by the fade away or turnaround. Too often they do not fare well
with that as a game plan.AK has achieved mediocrity this season and
needs to go. The Jazz seem to have exceeded the playing level of Raja as well
so KOC has some trading pieces and hopefully he uses them.
They were so overwhelmed an honored, playing in the nations capitol on MLK day
they forgot to bring their game. HAH!
To BillM75, I agree with you, happy with Prince , Hamilton soso, but worth the
risk and with championship experience.Need to look at all options - Kaman
! but does get injured - Clips want a 3 AK and we get Kaman plus Randy Foye
I am really pleased that Kevin O'Connor and the rest of the Utah Jazz's
braintrust decided not to match Wes Matthews contract in favor of C.J. Miles.
Just another blunder by the organization known as the Utah Jazz. Never take any
chances. Never take any risks. Just happy to be competitive.
The thing about Deron Wllliams is he's still gonna get his 20+ points a game if
the Jazz make a trade for a better shooting guard. But if they managed to bring
in somebody who can put up double figures every night at the SG, DWill is going
to get more assists & the Jazz are going to win more games. I think the
slow starts & falling behind in points has gone way beyond just the lack of
focus or not executing their plays. The Jazz need another player that can break
down the defense & create his own shot; or at least use the screens to hit
an open jumper. If they add more scoring, they won't have to play such a
perfect game everytime to win.
Every team loses. The sky is not falling. Chill out and get excited. The west is
paper thin with the Jazz guaranteed to be a top 5 seed. Denver and Portland are
no longer contenders and the Jazz are 27-14. No one expected this at the
season's start. Let Memo get up to speed and after the trade deadline, we should
know how far this team can take us.
If Okur plays defense the way he did today we are weaker. I will bash people
making 18 milliion a year which day after day makes making any possible roster
moves next to impossible.
Same old story. Jazz lose > bunch of non sayers storming to post. I don't
think some of these posters real fans just jealous scams trolling. How good team
is doesn't matter will lose some games specially to subpar team. Look at Lakers
,Dallas and Boston. I have ? from Todd, Who is your defensive,
long, shut down defender if trade happens. You just bashing AK. JAzz
weaker with Okur? Yo kidding me . OKur wins a game my dear expert. Today
Ak took only 4 shots made 2 of them. When your PG is best scorer this team not
gonna win championship.
Sloan rarely makes game adjustments or studies tape. Everyone said how
"they told us so" when AK and Raja recently had good games. I will
still trade Kirilenko and expiring contract first and foremost if it got me some
defensive, long, shut down defender. No one tell me AK is because he is not.As many of us predicted on this site, the Jazz are much weaker with Okur
in and not Fesenko. Everyone focuses on what Fes cannot do, it is the things
HE CAN AND DOES more that make a difference to win or lose the basketball game.
Arggghhh! It was the one game a year I get to attend in person, and the Jazz
laid a huge egg.Both teams took lots and lots and lots of shots. The
score belies the poor shot selection on both sides.However, the
Wizards weren't afraid to attack the basket. The Jazz were very tentative and
wanted to shoot, shoot, shoot from outside. 20-footers with 20 seconds on the
shot clock. Come on! This persisted until the last few minutes, when they staged
a small comeback. They actually almost pulled it off, but a late 3-pointer
sealed it for the Wizards.Give some credit to the Wizards. They did
not play like the terrible team their record indicates.Finally, I
told my kids to remember that they were there on the historic day when the
Wizards scored 109 points--because they may never see it again (and since we
only go to Jazz games, I hope they don't).
Wombat, the trade works if OKC throws in Daequan Cook...and it's a horrible
trade for the Jazz. Why strengthen our division rival? The pick will be high
20's = worthless.And Washington would never trade McGee (esp for
that junk), he's their 2nd best player other than Wall. They want to build
around those two and Young. Blatche is mediocre and his contract lasts another
FOUR seasons after this one.We need to gamble with Rip & Prince
for AK & Raja if the Melo deal falls through. Would cost the Jazz 5.6mil in
cap/tax, but ESPN says +5 wins. Throw in Fes & Price and it only costs the
Jazz 500K.Gotta gamble, we don't have near enough to beat LA, SA,
BOS or MIA in a 7 game series, and DWill knows it better than anyone.
We need a shooting guard, right now its like tghe Jazz are starting 4 against 5.
No wonder we have slow starts and no energy, because the 2 guard
"Bell" should be coming off the bench, not starting for a playoff
team. Had Bell gone to L.A, how many minutes would he be playing? I like Bell,
but he should not be our starting 2 Guard anymore. I can honestly say that our
sluggish starts are because of Bell and AK. Mostly Bell though. D-Will needs
some support in the back court to help him out, Mathews was perfect and Brewer
was decent, but Bell is not cutting it!
The Spazz lose to the Wiazards? Oh that is just soooo funny, I'm going to be
laughing all night about this one. Haaaaaaaa haaa!!!
As far as I am concerned; this loss is directly credited to Jerry Sloan for over
looking Washington's length and then failing to make the proper adjustments to
counter their superior length advantage.In plain English why wasn't
Fes put in their to body up to their bigs and give us a chance to rebound and
defend the paint? Elson is a 7' dish rag.
no excuse for losing this game but lazyness. as much money that they hauled to
the bank off that game no excuse.
Saw a comment from OKC on espn, that they need Milsap - would a possiable trade
work- Milsap for Green & a 1st round draft pick - would help with $, Green
can play the 3 or 4 and we get our draft pick back! We then need Blache &
McGee from the Wizards for Memo & Elson - can only ask I suppose - KOC needs
an open mind and be creative in the next few weeks if we are to improve our list
Rebounding ... rebounding ... rebounding ...The Wizards come at you
with a lot of size. You have to block those long riders off the boards, and one
of the guys who can put a body on someone doesn't even get off the bench.
Fesenko ought to have played in this one. When Sloan tries to marginalize him,
it doesn't work out well for the Jazz. Even if Fes isn't grabbing the board
hinself, he's usually got a body on his man so a teammate can come up with it.
The shooting? Everybody goes through slumps the ball goes in or it doesn't. But
rebounding is something a team has more control over, and getting beat
consistently by double digits in rebounding is going to get you in trouble, just
miles needs his diaper changed again,3/10 grand total of 8 POINTS,he`s lazy and
Elson, Memo, AK47, OUT!!! Bring someone to help DWill and Big Al. Millsap is
good but not always, same thing with Miles.Bring someone better to build
our UTAH BIG 3!
What is all of your problems??? I mean holy cow, the jazz lost to a bad team, we
are doomed to eigth place!!!! You fair weather fans need to realize that
sometimes your team just doesn't play well. period. I mean look at the Lakers
for goodness sakes! They lost 3 in a row TWICE this year. The Jazz have only
lost 2 consecutive games ONCE!! We have a good team that has some issues, but
heres the thing, EVERY TEAM DOES!!! Every elite team this year has dropped games
to below.500 teams, we arent that special in that regard. Stop being doomsday
fair weather fans and support the JAzz like fans are supposed to. Count
yourselves lucky that we have such a consistent team every year.
Awful. I never felt once the Jazz would win today. When I talk about does
"sloan and his SLoanaholics" watch film, everyone should know even
Billy Barty that you do not leave Nick Young from SC open for a corner 3. Good
teams shadow guys, this defense Sloan runs is a joke. Period. Young missed a
couple but buries that shot and has since College. Li had field day with 5 wide
open shots from his sweet spot.The Jazz outside of DWIl and AJ did
little, no on else played up to par including CJ. Fesenko should have been used
over Elson who again did nothing and does nothing to thwart the paint play of
the Wizards, you allow Blatche a role player to play like a star.The Jazz had few plays of good defense. You do not win giving up over 50
percent shooting.Now the next game becomes a must with harder road
trip to follow and hope OK City loses tonight.Slow starts are
catching up to the Jazz because if the bench then gives you a run just to get
tie or small lead of 2, we could be up 10 and control
AGAIN...we don't need Memo and Kirilenko, sell them, we get more cash for BETTER
I am starting to lose faith...They just do not have that give it my all guy on
the bench.....Are we Jazz fans doomed with the good, but not good enough for the
rest of our lives.I think there is one diffence between the NBA, NFL and
MLB....In the NBA, there is never really that opportunity for the underdog to
win it all. I think they should revert to making the opening round a best 3 out
of 5 series. I think it would make pro basketball more exciting or a round
robin pro tourney...Something different..We all know the league wants the Heat,
Celtics or Laker's to win it all. Its dissappointing.
Another consistant and great scoring effort from Bell and AK. Trade deadline in
about 5 weeks?
I think KC is looking for a pro basketball team. Maybe the Jazz should move
BOOOOOOO!!!! Thanks for that effort fellas. Hey
Millsap, that was awful. Thanks bud.
boYlen must have put is two cents in before the tip-off.
It looks like we can count on D-Will and Al Jefferson to bring their best effort
every single game.The difference between a good Jazz team and a
great Jazz team? Consistent performances from Bell, AK, Millsap, and Miles.
Bell, AK, and Miles need sports psychologists to convince them to play hard and
contribute every day. Coaches need to help Millsap learn to play alongside
Al.It's weird seeing us get outrebounded night in, night out. If we
could just decide to play defense on every possession, I suspect the rebounds
will come. We're giving up a lot of open shots!
@LT YBUObviously you didn't watch the game and the 15 LBS you are
talking about is Deron's strength. He had 28 and 11 with 2 TERRIBLE wing players
in Bell/AK. If you gave Williams a slasher he'd average less turnovers and more
assists. Why do you think he was upset when they lost Brewer.
Millsap, AK, and CJ Miles go for a combined 9-27 from the floor!!!That ought to expain most of it. The rest can be explained by the fact these
softies gave up 108 points to the Wizards.Just shows these guys have
still not matured to the point they understand that you win with defense.Their shots weren't falling so they don't play defense...just like the
junior jazz. If you want to win a championship then it should be
just the opposite. Hold the other team to a respectable total at least even if
you are having an "off" day shooting it.
I hate to say it but I think Deron is a step slow this year. He is REALLY bad
on defense. I think he really needs to make some changes. I would guess 15
lbs. would be the perfect place to start. I love DWill but he is not the same
They came out lazy and nonchalant, DWill and Big Al are the only ones that
came to play. CJ didn't attack and shot the 3 to much, Milsap didn't shoot
well or rebound well. Bell shot poor, AK didn't get to the hole like he does
when he plays well. The whole team except DWill & Big Al stunk, they
didn't come out like they really wanted to win.
Let's see......Bell, AK, and Millsap played a combine 97 minutes and
scored a total of 22 points.Three point game, Millsap misses shot
and then goes down and fouls.
Expect to lose when you dont run the floor hard or set screens, dont finish.
Bell 2/8 with 5 points. We need our shooting guard to give us double figures
every game no matter what. Where was AK? The bench didnt have the energy either.
Bell has had maybe 5 good games out of 41 so far. AK maybe 10 decent games but
nothing to write home about. The Jazz as a team need to focus. Each game from
here on out could effect our standings in the playoffs. The Jazz seem to put it
together for a couple games and then they stumble. When this team comes out
sluggish they suffer. I still think we need to bring in a higher caliber 2 guard
to run with D-Will.
I`m not the least bit surprized,in fact I had a gut feeling this would be a
loss...oh well,same old Jazz
Note to KOC - Need ATHLETES! AK and Bell are not going to get the job done with
a PG like Williams. Need somebody that can finish at the rim!
Just another Jazz egg. This team is just like "cotton". There is no
fabric toughness what so ever from top to bottom. Where's the effort, desire,
intestinal fortitude, anything that defines a man? What some pretenders that
talk the talk but can't walk the walk. And don't give me the A.M. start, get up
and get ready just like practice softies!
The Wizards? Really guys? Come on...you're better than that! Seems like most
of the guys struggled & didn't shoot that well today. And where are the