I don't understand you Utes. The Utes won the football game last year against
the Cougars, and had bragging rights. This year in basketball, us Cougars won
the basketball game, and get our bragging rights. The Utes are just upset
because of the way their program has been playing lately. EVERY team has their
ups and downs. This just isn't your year, Utah. Just like it wasn't BYU
football's year, but their up-and-coming. I'm happy that BYU is putting Utah
back on the map of sports. Good on you, Cougars. Keep it up, and ignore all the
haters. And Utah? Let us have some fun now, huh? Thanks!
HawaiianAggieUtah State is a big game, once a year when BYU plays
the Aggies in basketball. Not at all in football.Since the Aggies
play in a diffferent conference and nothing they do affects BYU, other than a
slight bump or dip in SOS depending on how the Aggies finish, Utah State is
little more than a curiousity for most BYU fans.We check the
standings to see how they're doing just like we check on Saint Mary's and other
teams BYU has played.Having grown up in Brigham City, I probably
follow the Aggies a little more than most BYU fans, that is, about as closely as
I follow Weber State when the Wildcats are having a good year, otherwise, not
much at all.I'll occassionally see a BYU t-shirt poking fun at Utah.
I've never seen one poking fun at Utah State.
Jimmer-BYU, Jimmer-BYU, Jimmer-BYU get the message? Mormons and the media do!
Hmm...BYU has a great program. I've been a fan most of my life. However, it is
unrealistic to not consider Utah State basketball a rival. Stew Morrill has a
class-act program up there. Yeah, some Aggies need to stop being ninnies, but
many BYU fans need to stop being snobs. Just play ball and have fun. Go
Does Chris B actually believe the Yewt that he types
@true blueWhat you say is true. I was born in Logan while my father
attended utah state. We then moved to Provo while he got his MBA at BYU. We then
left the state for a decade and didn't return until I was a teenager.During that time I was always a BYU fan and although I was born in Logan, and
my Dad graduated from utah state, I never gave them a second thought. I didn't
think of them as a rival to BYU and still barely do. I simply never care about
them at all. They were at best an afterthought other than when they were BYU's
next game. Afther the game I thought of them no more until the next one rolled
around.But for all of that indifference the university of utah meant
even less to me. At least I had heard of utah state. Growing up in California
I'd never even heard of the university of utah and to this day I still care very
little about them. I do think a large segment of their fans are
classless though and that motivates me to irritate them.
BYU is doing well so far, but if we are all objective about it, they have done
nothing yet, as in they haven't played any team that has a shot at doing
something when they go to the Big Dance in March. Come on....think about it.
Jimmer is having a great individual year, and Emery is doing well in his own
way; but let's hold down the euphoria a tad folks. Everyone knows I am a died
in the wool Cougar fan; but let's not go crazy here. San Diego State and New
Mexico are two good clubs for the MWC that the Cougars have yet to play. And we
all know how tough it is to win on the left coast and also in the Pit. Let's
keep our heads straight and see what happens. As we view games of teams east of
the rockies, it is evident that they are playing a much superior brand of BB
than the MWC by far.Go Courgars tonight and rip the Horned Frogs, er
Horny Toads as I knew the creature when I was growing up in California.
alternate | 3:42 p.m. Jan. 18, 2011 Salt Lake City, UT I guess some
psych person can explain this better, but when a person becomes so disappointed
in something near and dear to them, that they lash out against what they think
is the cause of that disappointment and/or what represents success in the area
where they have failed. Unfortunately I think we are seeing a lot of that here.
What's worse, one-and-done, or in the case of the U, none-n-done?It's pretty hard to fathom the hatred coming from the hill given how bad their
program is these days. Why don't you put a strong program on the court and let
the games do the talking...then the rivalry has some merit. Till then, it's
just "scoreboard" each time we meet. Best of luck anyway.
AggieNationSome BYU fans do exhibit some hubris toward Utah State,
but the vast majority of BYU fans, especially those from out of state, pay
almost no attention to the Aggies except when they're the next opponent on the
schedule.My family attended the BYU-Utah State game in Logan this
past season, and my kids were amazed at all of the anti-BYU t-shirts worn by
Aggie fans. It seemed there were far more anti-BYU shirts than there were
pro-Utah State shirts.Having grown up out-of-state, my kids were
somewhat surprised to discover that Aggie fans considered BYU a huge rival. As
they were discussing this, Aggie fans sitting around us seemed shocked that BYU
fans attending a BYU-Utah State game didn't consider the Aggies a BYU rival.At least that game will make next season's meeting a little more
interesting for BYU fans.
I guess some psych person can explain this better, but when a person becomes so
disappointed in something near and dear to them, that they lash out against what
they think is the cause of that disappointment and/or what represents success in
the area where they have failed. Unfortunately I think we are seeing a lot of
Aggienation, everyone knows, historically, the best team in the state in bball
is Utah and the best in football is BYU. The reason most fans don't care about
USU is because they are out there somewhere, and too far from people in the
region to follow. If USU fans treated BYU fans and the school far better, and
weren't so full of hate, you might get a better response out of BYU fans. I
don't know a single person who left USU not thinking, "man, they sure hate
BYU up here." You live hate, and hate gets returned to you. As fresnogirl said, this isn't a WAC article. Also, if you look at comments
from USU articles, you're lucky to find more than 20 on a given article. At any
given time, you can usually find 50 plus comments on several articles from BYU
and Utah. You want Aggie news, go read the Logan paper. Salt Lake based papers
don't need to focus on teams who live so far away, especially when their sports
teams are not in the same conference as local teams.
The Aggies are working on their 4th WAC championship. They are a very good team.
Unfortunately, they have to share the same media outlets as two other schools
and tend to get treated like a red-headed step-child. But that does not diminish
their achievements. But, let me remind the Aggie fans beating their
chests on this article that this is not an article about the WAC. Your team is
not mentioned for that reason.
Don't mind the comments from AggieNation and other Aggie fans. They just want to
chime in on the news from real schools. They get tired up there in Cache Valley
of reading all the stories about the other teams in the state and not anything
about them. Yes Aggies, we know that you are still up there in the
cold, dark corner of the state. We know you are outstanding in your field....or
outstanding in someones field. Scrape the manure off your boots, pull up a chair
and watch a real team play.
AggieNationWhat does BYU playing in the ESA have to do with Utah
playing in the championship game?The ESA is as neutral a site as
there is for Utah college basketball teams. When BYU played Utah State in the
ESA, the Aggies made up half the crowd. If that's not a neutral site, what would
you consider neutral?
JustintimeY,It'll never cease to amaze me the hubris that some BYU
fans hold over Utah State. Any everybody knows that BYU thinks it owns the E.S.
Arena, which is hardly a neutral site.As I recall, the University of
Utah is the only university in the state to make it to the championship game.
They at least have some laurels to boast about.
Chris B and hedgehogThe Utes are working on giving new meaning to
the term "one and done"...as in, one-and-done,for the last six years, and counting!
Chrisb. Your memory is extremely short. Let me change the shoe to the other
foot. C'mon, yewts. If you are at all serious(about football), then you know
this yewt ranking is out of line. You don't have the personnel, or the speed, to
maintain this ranking. You can go ahead and diss BYU all you want, but it only
bears out your ignorance of real football. How can anyone take any of you
seriously when you continue to drink the red kool-aid. Do you really expect to
make the BCS, much less the NC game. Fast Forward a few weeks. Bubble burst
against the three "good teams" you played and you barely beat the
worst BYU team in the last 5 years. If BYU BB team is exposed this year and
falters later on(they won't), it will be to the same tune the Utes were dancing
to during the football season. Ouch!
USU, and BYU both have good programs, but to say that USU has the best program
in the state? "DixieAggie, the Utes will never cheer for the Aggies. Since
Stew has been in Logan, USU has had the best program in the state" BYU
beat USU on a neutral floor two years ago and they have both split there games
for the last two years on the road. USU has not won an NCAA tournament game even
longer than BYU. I thank Stew is a great coach but to say that the USU program
is better than the Dave Rose program I would disagree. Recent facts would also
tend to disagree. Current ranking and head to head wins seem to say otherwise.
I will give stew credit by getting Ty Wesley from BYU back yard was a great pick
up. Would love to see what Jimmer, Fredette, Davies, Hartsock and TY Wesley
could all do on the same team.
Good luck Cougars! Continue to practice well and play as a team. And Congrats on
all the great games so far. Goooo Cougars!
@Hailstorm:You just seem to be an unhappy person.One of
my favorite players to ever watch was Andre Miller. He was a class act, and
loved to play basketball. I think I enjoyed watching him rebound more than any
other player. And Majerus had special teams those years.Jimmer is
the same way. Why not sit back and enjoy watching a local player do well,
instead of trying to grab highlights on sportscenter.And BYU's team
is magical to watch when they are hitting on all cylinders.BYU has
been working on getting out of the MWC for years. Rose had his dream-job shot at
Houston, and gladly turned it down to stay at BYU, knowing their intentions.Why feel the need to turn your negativity towards his/their success? He
has a top twenty program in the country, and courtside seats to watch some great
games. He is a professional at what he does, and does it willingly,
for a paycheck.Nobody is "reigning" on "his"
parade. To think anything else would be questioning his ability to be part of a
program, and he is too much of a class act.
Please don't lose to TCU. Please?
BYU is on a roll right now, but its way too early to talk about tournament
seedings and rankings. There's a lot of games yet to be played and many are away
games at tough venues - NM and SD just to name a few. Let's continue this
discussion at the end of February or early March. Then we'll have a more
accurate fell on how good BYU BB really is. I'm hoping BYU will be playing even
better then as they are now. BYU's inside offense and defense still needs
improvement as does their turn overs - though as of late the turn overs have
Go Cougars. Any team can be upset as was Duke this week where the better teams
lost Upsets are big news while bad teams losing are not. Some teams lose 7 in a
row and none of them are upsets because the 0-7 team is actually a door mat.
Remind you of any teams on the SLC east bench?
PJ,You've got a point. However, when it comes to basketball, I
cheer for any team from Utah, in this case I obviously cheer for Utah State. I
personally would never attend BYU by choice, but they have a great in-state ball
team and that's something to be proud of going into the tournament. And you're
right, some BYU fans tend to find it difficult to eat humble pie.Go
There is no risk of a letdown for the TCU game. I'm most concerned
about C. Collinsworth's season ending injury and what that does to our ability
up front. We seem to struggle to match up against teams with a strong front
line (USF, Buffalo, UCLA). We really need three solid players at the 4 and 5
spot, especially with Davies tendency to get into foul trouble.If
Hartsock, C. Collinsworth and Davies are all healthy; there is no way we lose to
UCLA. SDSU is a team with a solid front line. We'll see how we match up next
week. It's time for Anderson to step up and be a solid contibutor
for 20 minutes per game, especially on defense. It's time for Davies to
eliminate the "silly" fouls. We need his offensive fire power on the
floor for at least 30 minutes a game.Go Cougs!
I have enjoyed your season this year and congratulate your team and national
exposure. Better enjoy it though as next year you'll be playing in the packed
gymnasiums of 6-8,000. Teams like the Gauchos, Anteaters,pilots and,The Banana
Slugs will certainly move you out of the limelight and into the lemon light. I feel bad for Dave Rose, just when things were going so good for him Holmoe
goes and reigns( not a misspelling ) on his parade.
@Sammy G:The game with SDSU on Jan 26th is on CBSC.The
game with SDSU on Feb 26th is on CBS.
Last high seed from Utah to lose in first round of NCAA tourney? It was the
mighty utes in 2009, a number 5 seed losing to a number 12, Arizona. Hmmm.
Arizona sounds familiar.
Chris B says BYU has no inside game. Perhaps he didn't watch Brandon Davies
score in double figures inside while Utees big men Foster and Washburn got 6
between them. So much for BYU not having production from a big man and an inside
game. Congrats Cougs!
DixieAggie, the Utes will never cheer for the Aggies. Since Stew has been in
Logan, USU has had the best program in the state. Utah is a distant third. Do
you think they like that? As for BYU, can't stand them but I think they are a
legit top-10 team and can't wait to see them take on SDSU, if I can see it
anywhere. Jimmer is (unfortunately) the best player is the country. See BYU
fans, I gave credit to your team and player(s), try it sometime.
Hey Chris B.Why not ask Boylan and your boys if BYU should not be
ranked where they are? They have had some time off because the nets are still
too hot for practice from all the threes BYU rained down on the U the other
@ Chris BJust like many of your posts.
Actually CB, high expectations are the reason BYU is where they are now. I have
High expectations of our Cougar Basketball program and for the past several
years those high expectations have been met and I see them continuing for
several more years.High expectations helped Utah to the BCS bowl
games Utes hang there hats on.High expectations is always a
prerequisite for success. Congrats to BYU for winning and earning
this honor from coaches and sports writers.
C'mon, cewgs. If you are at all serious, then you know this ranking is out of
line. You don't have the big men inside, or the speed, to maintain this
ranking. You can go ahead and diss me all you want, but it only bears out your
ignorance of real basketball. How can anyone take any of you seriously when you
continue to drink the kool-aid. Do you really expect to make the round of 16,
much less the elite 8, in the NCAAs?
@Veritas... you da man!This team is hitting on all cylinders and the
ratings improve each week. SDSU game will be a great test.Expect the
trolls to hit it hard as they are besides themselves since they have NOTHING to
look forward to except BYU losing.Another great basketball season
for BYU!Go Cougars!By the way will the SDSU / BYU game
be on another channel besides the Mtn.?
Cougars:Jimmer is good. Cut the Utes some slack. They root for
their team.Utes:Having a bad season? You can always
root for Utah State if cheering for BYU just isn't palatable for you.Go Aggies and Cougars!
Just gotta say, I love that the Cougars are in the TOP TEN!!! Keep
it up, boys! You can do it!Go Cougs!!! Its JIMMER-TIME!!!
hedgie and chris b,I think you two girls need to carefully consider
the words choke and one and done. I looked up choke / overrated and found the
2010 utes football team. As far as one and done goes I guess you have to get a
Congrats Cougs!!! You guys are doing awesome. Keep up the good work!
@Hedgie/@Chris B.I transferred away from the U after not being able
to figure out why there were so many kids like yourselves who would spent more
time and energy rooting against ANOTHER school than they would for their OWN.I find it funny when kids like yourselves get a knot in your undies when
a Cougar fan cheers for the U to win (when not competing against the Cougs, of
course).Good day, kids!
The Cougars will not be one and done this year. With a high enough seed they
will play one of the cupcakes that made the tournament instead of the newts.
For those teams, it will be one-and-done. But, even that is better than
Congratulations to the Cougars, #9 in both polls, but the RPI dropped from #2 to
#4 after playing a bad newt team. Playing conference games against the good MWC
teams before we have to play the newts again should improve our ranking and get
the RPI back up. Go Cougars.
Well deserved recognition for the Cougars. Some ute trolls just can't get over
the drubbing they took at the Huntsman. After a 7 game losing streak you'd think
they are accustomed to another loss.
@TomIt's just nice to see that the kids care so much about BYU.Jimmer's MWC POW again?
C'mon guys, the utes arent THAT bad, are they? When they played BYU
they had three of their star players out, right? right? no?Well,
maybe they just had an off night, because everyone knows the utes are the best
bball team in the state (including the Jazz)... right?Well, maybe
they are having a rough year because they want to gift wrap goodbye presents to
all the MWC schools before they move into the pac12. Thats why they swept their
non-conference games... right?I just dont know why everyone is so
down the on the utes right now. They could flip the switch if they wanted too.
Thats how it works when you're a pac12 school, they wont even have to try
@Veritas Aequitas:I'm pretty sure your comment flew right over the
head of Chris B - she probably is a blonde.@hedgehog: seems to me
the last "choke job" took place in the Vegas Bowl.
Hey Hedgie and Chris B.,I hear that your yoots have an article under
the "Utes" column, and heard that they finally beat someone, a
pathetic Wyoming team...or do you even care? Probably not, since both of are
simply jealous BYU haters...nothing worth cheering for on the hill, but women's
gymnastics...as usual. It must stink to be a Ute-fan, nothing worth cheering
for...can't wait for Football season to start, to see the continuing fade of the
Ute-gridiron into oblivion...
Good job bball team. Congratulations and good luck this week!
Once again, I see the annual "choke job" at home coming.The TDS will win enough games to keep them in the top 20 but a "one and
done" in the NCAA tournement is to be expected.
BYU was ranked #2 for a week in 1988, when Mike Smith and Marty Haws played.
They lost to UAB, and that started a slide. They were a #4 seed that year. Won
in the first round against the #13 seed, and lost to #5 seed Louisville and
coach Denny Crum in the second round, who lost in the next round to Oklahoma,
who lost to former Jazz man Danny Manning and the Kansas Jayhawks in the
Chris B | 11:56 a.m. Jan. 17, 2011 Salt Lake City, UT If this keeps
up byu will be one of the highest seeds ever to have a one and donegood luck! ===It would be funny to watch them climb to #5 in the
AP, and then drop completely out by the end of the season... eh, Chris?
again, no need to read or post to what is that person name or that person
exist.I rather see anyone above BYU have a big TARGET on their back
than BYU Cougars. SDSU and ohio state have their big targets on them now.Polls means nothing at this time until the final.
CynicNew Mexico at #10 and BYU at #13 last year has to be the
highest rated contest at the Marriot Center.
What's the highest any BYU basketball team has been ranked? This one must be
"The Cougars (17-1) vaulted from No. 11 to No. 9 in the Associated Press
poll and from No. 10 to No. 9 in the ESPN/USA Today coaches poll."I wouldn't say "vaulted" for just moving up one or two positions,
unless the teams previously ahead had not lost. But hey, whatever floats the
article writer's boat.Good for the Cougs. SDSU is considered a slow
team, so maybe BYU will have a chance to win.
CynicHighly doubt it.
Congrats BYU. I hope for the best when you play SDSU.This team reminds me
of the Golden days of BYU basketball.
Kristy, B. Who has to lose for utah to go to the NIT?BYU owes utah a
thanks, for their pourous Jimmered defense
Go Cougars! Can't wait to see them beat up on SDSU come the 26th! Will be
great to have 2 top 10 teams square off, and great boost to BYU when they win!
Yes, BYU and SDSU do play in Provo next week, Jan 26. Hopefully, both will take
care of business this week and still be in the top 10 when they meet. Does
anyone know if two Top-10 teams have ever met in Provo before?
I believe that Chris B holds the record for typing the words "one and
done" the most times on internet comment boards. It is still much better
than the "none and already done" that would fit better farther up
North. Given her track record on picking the outcomes of BYU athletic events. We
can just about be sure it won't be just one. Don't know if you were
watching this weekend chrisb but your team won a game.
I think BYU vs SDSU meet on Jan 26 at the Marriott Center and then Feb at SDSU.
Rise and shout!
If this keeps up byu will be one of the highest seeds ever to have a one and
It is great to see BYU this high in the AP, where the east coast bias usually
keeps teams from the west down a few notches from their actual performance.
This is a fair ranking for BYU based on performance. They will have to sustain
the guard play and hope to cover the hole created by Chris Collinsworth's injury
to be worthy of anything higher. This team lacks balance, but its strengths are