Hoops Man,If Stew's ego was the problem, why in the world didn't BYU
schedule 2007? You conveniently ignore that year. It was only fair to have BYU
play at the Spectrum since their last meeting was in Provo. You'r logic is very
questionable. And SLC may as well had been the Marriott Center from what I
heard from fellow Aggie fans.
hedgie:You are so right. I'm sure Dave Rose is out there campaigning right
now for a job in the awesome PAC-12, the 7th or 8th best conference in the land.
Maybe he wants the job in Salt Lake, where they haven't had a winning program
since Majerus left. Or maybe he wants to join you in Ann Arbor. The only time
they had a decent program, they had to cheat to get it. Yeah, I'm sure those
jobs are high on Coach Rose's wish list!
bjfcubsfan...USU/BYU Basketball scheduling has been written about
and pretty well documented in the last year. Here is the chronology
of where the games were played:2003 Logan2004 Home and home in both
Logan and Provo2005 Logan2006 Provo2007 did not play each
other2008 Salt Lake City2009 LoganThe issue has been and
still is, Coach Stew's stubbornness. In 2008 Stew wanted BYU to come to Logan
(of course) for the 4th time in 5 years of play, not counting 2007, when they
did not play each other. Where is the equity in that? Who's ego is
getting in the way??So BYU agreed to play in Salt Lake City in
before going BACK to the Spectrum in 2009!! Check the record. It
shows that BYU has traveled to the Spectrum for 4 times in the last 6 years the
teams have played...swallow that!USU has darkened the doors of the
Marriott Center just twice...Rose and BYU are committed to playing
home and home in the future...they are not the problem.Stew's ego
And he has a great team with lots of local players helping out. Can't wait for
Emery Jr. and Haws Jr. A long long future of success.
Rose seems like a great guy. Maybe I will have to find some interest in b-ball
this year and watch my BYU brothers play and see how far y'all go. I find b-ball
mind-numbingly boring, but maybe this year with BYU looking good in the
tournament I might watch a game or two. And, who knows, I might even find myself
rooting for my BYU brothers! Good luck!
This is a great article. I agree winning solves a lot of problems. But Rose is
just an awesome guy. I like the point that he has the faith but doesn't wear it
on his sleeve. I like Bronco too but the style is different and Rose comes
across a little more mature. But we are fortunate to have some good coaches who
are also LDS. Was a time when the talent pool was a lot smaller. Now if we can
just continue to get most of the top LDS recruits, the sky is the limit.
You ask who hates Dave Rose? Pretty much every single Aggie student. Mostly
because he temporarily halted what is now the best basketball rivalry in the
state by taking a year off and then going to a neutral site. They had played at
least once a year (often twice) for at least 50 years, and Rose put an end to
that streak. I still love him and think he is a great guy and great example, but
that is hard to swallow. Especially because there is no contract to keep playing
because BYU "has scheduling conflicts".
Great Job Coach through all the adversity. Its fun to be a Cougar fan. I think
that they will have a great season, my prediction will be they will lose both
games to SDSU and the road game at the pit in New Mexico but I think they will
win the rest of the games.
His chances of getting a real coaching job at a real program has never been
higher. I would imagine his is secretly compaigning with the ligit conference
teams about coaching opportunities. Rose might have to step into an assistant
role for a year or two but in time, I could see him coaching in the PAC12 or one
of the other big six conferences.
What a great guy he is and a motivater. Keep up the fast pace game coming with
Fresno girl and Coug:I understand the difference in media attention
between these programs. However, Bronco goes well out of his way to tell people
how he feels BYU players are better people (not players) than at other schools.
He publically trys to put some type of religious spin on any situation he can.
He could do that privately and be just as effective with the players if that is
his concern. You will always teach more effectively by showing an
example than you will by telling others how they should live and what they
should do. I simply admire Coach Roses "example" more
than I do the talk / hype that we constantly hear from the football program. Hopefully, this independance move will be beneficial to both programs.
Chris B:You are unreal. Don't you wish that Utah could just beat
BYU, let alone go to the big Dance?Sorry, I need a good typing
Chris B:You are unreal. Don't you wish that Utah could just bet
BYU, let alone go to the big Dance?
and 1 tourney win!Woo hoo!Some program/coachOnly 500 other coaches have that honor
Good human interest story. Not surprising. The man is a good coach and will
stay at the Y a very long time.
Re: SeattleviewI think it's unfair to compare to two coaches. The
media scrutiny is so intense for football, that Bronco can't blow his nose
without it being examined and interpreted six ways from Sunday.Bronco by his very nature seems to be a quiet, reflective individual, who
prefers to remain outside the spotlight, and keep his religious observance a
private thing also. Just a thought.
SeattleviewI would agree with you if Coach Mendenhall didn't walk
the walk as well. Different personalities here (same as the mission field), will
reach different people.
Certainly, the way Rose proclaims the churchs message (example) is far better
than the way Bronco and the football program does (telling you about it). Perhaps the basketball program should be treated more on par with the
football program(decisions made more for their benefit) at BYU despite the
I think we are at the point where we have to say he's the best ever at BYU. I
won't name 3 who were an embarassment. I will name one who was in the same
court. Stan Watts may be number one, but it was a different era in many
respects. Stan never had the media focus, the Internet, and the honor code was
much more flexible. He did not have to contend with players on missions. Wats
had some limits on who he could recruit, but he represented the school very
well. Rose is so good it is hard to believe we have him. He's a perfect fit
for a perfect job. He's a great example. I was one who wondered about
appointing an assistant, but I take it back...he's number 1. Now...can we keep
You nailed it Dick. I'm a Ute fan and have nothing but respect for Dave Rose.
He's built a great program and built it the right way. This looks like a team
that can go a long way this year in the tournament. I hope the move to the WCC
doesn't undermine all his work. These guys could be a presence for years to come
on the national scene.
I am afraid that this kind of article breed's criticism. Dick, if you say that
Rose is doing everything right, then someone is going to point out perceived
problems. Louisiana Cougar commented that BYU doesn't have a consistent inside
power presence, and that "I struggled because of the exit of a great
player, Michael Loyd". From what I understand, Michael Loyd
departed because of his inability to deal with living according to the BYU's
standards for behavior and appearance. If Dave Rose has to dismiss players
because of these type of problems, then he is doing his job. From what I
understand, BYU's goals are (1) to be representatives of the schools LDS
standards, and (2) to be competitive at a high level nationally. So far, goal
accomplished! In my eyes, he is doing exactly that. Michael Loyd was repeatedly
warned about his behavior and appearance, and he continued to escalate the
improper actions. As for the inside power presence criticism, this may be true,
but he does an excellent job of adjusting the style of play and strategy to the
players he has! Go Coach Rose! Go Cougars!
Coach Rose and family have come a long way since Fillmore. Coaching the Eagles
and then on to the warmer climes of St. George. Young and brash then. More
mature and well rounded now. I am sure he would like to get back to the final
four again. This time as a coach. But with that front line, I don't think
their tough enough. You never know. When the Eagles took it that year, they
got hot at the right time!
malwambiwambaMaybe he uses phrases like "every fiber of my
being." Or perhaps he refers to Spanish Fork simply as "Spanish"
or says "the BYU." Just kidding.On a personal note, we
used to be in the same ward as the Roses. What a wonderful family they are! I'm
so happy to see him having such a great year (and career) at the Y. Go Cougars!
Ute fan here, but nothing but respect for Rose and his program just like with
Edwards. That being said, I still hate BYU and always will. Bring back Mejerus
and go Utes....
He "speaks the local jargon..."What is that supposed to
All too true. He personifies the aspirations of BYU and intercollegiate
athletics and makes it even easier to be a Cougar fan.
Not only is he a good coach, but he is a snappy dresser. Love the tie in the
I can vividly remember him after some bitter contraversial loses, like Arizona
State a couple of years back, when an allowed tip in/game winner was nullified
minutes later by the officiating crew. I didn't personally see enough video
evidence to reverse the call, but they did. Outside of Tarvenari, the entire
team/cocahes took the officails decision in stride. Rose was just as cordial
following that game, as he is when he works an opponent by 25. Rose
is just a flat out a cool cat (Cougar), and fine reprentitive of Brigham Young
University, with lots of 'newly found' perspective on life.We
couldn't be more fortunate/blessed to have him calling the shots.
He's a big time coach, fantastic winning %, and went through some life changing
(and hair color changing) alterations which is inspiring to fans and players
alike. Rose has a brilliant future ahead of him, I'm very glad to have him, a
very classy guy.Go Y
It's the nature of sports. If you're winning, every thing else doesn't matter.
You will always be smelling like a rose. I'm sure if wasn't winning, some will
already be calling for his head right now. It's the nature of the beast...just
the way things are! That's not to say he's not a great coach nor an excellent
leader. He is all that, and has proven it over and over since he took reign of
the program. Go Cougs! Go Coach! You are so fun to watch!!!
We have to give Rose his due praise.I have struggled because BYU
consistently does not have the inside power players to do well on the national
scene in the NCAA Tournament. I struggled because of the exit of a great
player, Michael Loyd.But this season has been remarkable and fun to
watch. I appreciate the way the Cougars guard the three-point line and the fact
that Fredette is distributing the ball much better than he did last year.I continue to be concerned about BYU's ability to rebound and defend
internally (e.g., UCLA), but I respect the work that Rose and staff have done in
preparing the Cougars.On a personal note, Rose is a class act who I
enjoy and admire as well.