This is great news for Utah! This kid will do great things at the U!!!
Told ya!Utah has proven time and time again that we are a top 10
program in the nation.Little brother, see what 2 undefeated seasons,
2 BCS games, 2 BCS wins, being worthy of a real conference, and having real
athletes(not sunday school boys) will do for you?tds was never in
the picture. USC had a shot.Welcome Harvey!
Last year a talent like Langi would have gone to a BCS power.....no more.The page has turned onto a new chapter in Utes football. As a Ute fan
I'm proud that the state of Utah now has a program that can/will compete on a
NATIONAL level.As for the bitter and sad tds fan? life will never be
But it can't be true as the BYU faithful said he was going to go to BYU or at
least USC. Being in the PAC12 won't help Utah in recruiting they said; sure.
Glad to have you Harvey. John White is another great back they is coming to
the Utes as well. Go Utes.
Great choice Harvey
Utah is a great place for Langi. The Utes have a huge void at RB right now. If
he can play at the next level he could end up starting or at least getting good
playing time.Plus he doesn't have to deal with the NCAA sanctions
that USC is dealing with after they got caught cheating.
Utah was the obvious best choice for Langi. He is a strong sledge-hammer RB,
runs down hill and over defenders. I think he is exactly what they need at Utah
to turn the offense around and take the pressure off Jordan Wynn. Congrats to
Langi. I really hope this comment board can stay focused on him and not turn
into a Utah vs. BYU debate.
And the clouds part with a few rays of sunshine, and it was a warm summers day
up on the hill if only for a few minutes.Now if the basketball team
could just pick up a W today or at least keep the margin of loss less than 20.
A big win for the Utes against a conference and division opponent while keeping
the top recuit in the state at home. The big time is here compliments of the
Probably a good choice for Harvey considering Utah has a need for a good running
back. He'd have a more difficult time breaking in at USC or wherever. That said,
he would still look better in blue than any red hue. One drawback he will have
with a mid-level team like Utah is lack of television exposure.Does
anyone know if he even had a chance at a scholarship at BYU after his headlines
off the field?
Whoa Nellie "One drawback he will have with a mid-level team like Utah is
lack of television exposure." Maybe as compared to USC but far more
exposure than in Mid Major Independent BYU land. Oh, I forgot about all you 8PM
MST games Wednesdays on ESPN against the likes of New Mexico State. BTW he
wasnt going to BYU if you offered him a scholarship or not; PAC 12 trumps
independence any day of the week.
Now all we need is a QB that doesn't cry and go down in the fetal position when
the pocket breaks down. We need a QB with the same size as Langi. Not a 155 lb
high school senior who gets injured because he is so small and fragile. We need
a man not a mouse. Biggest mistake so far for Whit. Wynn has lost the team. No
confidence. Most of them are just ticked off he can't get the job done.
That's cool we have Soma Vainuku in this year's class! Bigger stronger and Rey
Maualuga's cousin. FIGHT ON!!
As it often works out, Utah is a good choice for Langi just as Quasada (Sp) made
a good choice in going to BYU last year.Based on need, I am glad BYU
got the best offensive linemen this year and Utah certainly needed the best
Good get for the Utes. They needed something to go right considering the last
couple of months. Let's try and hold off on declaring any paper championships
until something is proven on the field.
"One drawback he will have with a mid-level team like Utah is lack of
television exposure." -- Whoa NellieUnlike BYU we are not
worried about "exposure". 1) Lack of
"exposure" wasn't a drawback for us when we went undefeated twice and
played in January.2) Lack of "exposure" wasn't a drawback
for 11 of our players when they were drafted in the NFL over the last two
years.Welcome Langi! Good luck fighting a for starting
job next year. Looking forward to seeing you compete at the next level.Go UTES!!
Nice catch for the ewets.
Congrats on the recruit. He should help the team out.And before you
start bashing on BYU, think about the comments you made when Heaps, Quezada,
Apo, etc. committed to BYU. Don't be hypocrits.
You Ute fans act like this guy was such a coup. More little brother syndrome, I
expect. Nobody thought he was going to BYU.He won't save your team
from the pummeling its going to take or your program from its eventual demise.
I am a BYU fan and wish we would have got Langi. He's a great player and think
the Utes have an all-american at RB. Good luck and win the PAC-12. It'll be
fun to watch and see how Utah does. Great pick up!
Congratulations to Harvey. He is likely the most well-known last link to the
outstanding rivalry that was Bingham-Alta football.Speaking of Alta.
I wish Harvey more success and fewer injuries than the last great all-state,
all-everything, future rockstar running back the Utes landed.
Langi is like unga, except with better size, speed stength and athleticism.Also look for the utes to sign a 6'6 4.5 WR stud in the next few
days....It's great to be a Ute!
Good news for the U. Will enjoy seeing him play 4 years against my Cougars.
Harvey will help you win quite a few games in your new conference.
Nice comment Tomm2Shoes. Very cool Harvey! I love seeing the home town boys
playing on the hill. I have been following you all season. Best of luck to you
This is a great pick-up for the Utes. Got to agree with Riverton Coug though.
You can't sit here and bash BYU's paper recruiting tiger one year and then tout
your own the next. Talk about Utah's ability to get "big-time
recruits" after bashing how worthless recruiting rankings were the year
before in response to BYU's big gets. It boggles my mind sometimes how fans on
both sides have a complete inability to just call it how it is. Langi is a big
pick-up for Utah. He wasn't as highly recruited as Heaps or even that close, but
he was about on par with Apo or Stout and he was the highest-rated RB either
team has pulled in, albeit not by a wide margin. He had big offers from big
schools and they kept him home. And they did it at a position they had a big
need in. Between him, the juco RB, and Radley, I think they may end up with a
net gain in RB talent. Hopefully one of them can produce and give the team
balance. If so, Utah will at least be ok next year
Congrats to the U for getting Langi.. he's a top-notch recruit but he won't
salvage the next few mediocre seasons in the middle of the PAC-whatever.Utah needs him.. more than he needs Utah.. but it's a good fit. Good
luck Harvey! We all expect you to do well and go on to the NFL.. and make the
whole state proud of you!
"One drawback he will have with a mid-level team like Utah is lack of
television exposure."Huuuh? The PAC 12 is creating a PAC 12
network similar to the Big 10 network. So, PAC 12 games not on FOX broadcast
channels or ABC/ESPN national TV are going to be on the PAC 12 network. The Big
10 network currently reaches 73 million homes. The PAC 12 is striving for the
same reach. ESPN reaches 90 million homes. But oh wait, that is if BYU is on
ESPN. If they throw the BYU games on ESPN U or ESPN 3 that is a whole different
story. I could not find household numbers for ESPN U and ESPN 3 is only
internet streaming over a computer. Good luck with your ESPN deal and all those
Chinese TV viewers watching BYU football on BYUTV.
Congratulations Utah. He'll see playing time there sooner than he would have at
BYU or USC, that's for sure. A good decision by him and his family.Now that Utah has shown it is vaguely interested in recruiting Utah football,
let's see if they can find a way to land a top-tier Utah basketball player. BYU
has owned that market for half a dozen years, due mostly to the preeminence of
Utah County basketball at LP, Provo, and Timpview high schools(Collinsworth
brothers, Haws, Tavernari, Miles, Davies, Emery, Austin, etc.)
Seattle,Ryker is certainly a great talent, and rates higher than
Asiata, but I wouldn't sleep on big Ike. He'll be on campus in time for spring
ball, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him be a big contributor if not starter
this year.Disillusion:Most reports I read up until Utah went
to the Pac 12 were Utah wasn't even a consideration. This is a big get for
Utah. Welcome aboard Harvey.
I get so tired of all the hype by both Utah and BYU fans when it comes to 18
year old kids! Nobody knows how good this kid will be. I heard the same thing
about the kid from Alta going to the U and BYU has had big time disapointments
as well. I will check back on this kid and this recruiting class in a few years.
There's no question that the utes needed him more than anyone else. the cubbord
is bare in their backfield. Now if they could just get a quarterback!
Rock Of The Marne | 3:05 p.m. Jan. 8, 2011 Phoenix, AZ "Oh, I forgot about all you 8PM MST games Wednesdays on ESPN..." ===2011 BYU Football ScheduleSept. 3 at Ole MissSept. 10 at TexasSept. 17 Utah Sept. 23 Central FloridaSept.
30 Utah StateOct. 8 San Jose StateOct. 15 at Oregon StateOct.
22 Idaho StateOct. 29 ByeNov. 5 at Louisiana TechNov. 12
IdahoNov. 19 New Mexico StateNov. 26 ByeDec. 3 at HawaiiCould you and Dutchman point out the Wednesday night games for me? I
seem to be missing them.And, where did you find the start times for
the games?Congrats to Harvey for staying local, and finding a
University that seems to be a nice fit. It seems to be a win-win situation for
the U and for Harvey.
I find some of the postings on here quite humorous, although they do demonstrate
the author's ignorance. One quality recruit does not mean the U will be in the
National Championship game for the next four years, and it does not mean that
because BYU didn't get him they are condemned to the New Bowl for the next four
years.There were two great recruits out of Utah - the Utes got one
and BYU got one. I'm glad Langi selected Utah over USC. I'm sure he
did his homework, as his HS coach indicates. He probably wouldn't have made an
impact at USC until his Jr or Sr year. He would have been asked to redshirt
next year if he came to BYU and probably moved to Fullback. At Utah he will be
able to have an impact his Freshman year just like Quezada did at BYU.I just hope his off field activities that made the headlines a couple of
months ago are over. He has too much potential, and those type of activities
are the only thing that will keep him from stardom.
Well congrats on landing Langi, he is a talented rb and it gives him a good
opportunity to start right away. Its just too bad that alot of you yewt fans
cant enjoy it without taking lame shots at BYU. It further proves your jealously
and inferior anxiety you have towards Byu. As far as Byu goes, they are not
short on talent at the rb position, so although Langi is a talented rb im not
worried about Byu's rb situation at all. Utah was in dire need of a RB after
losing both Asiata and Wide, Langi saw a perfect opportunity to come in and
start right away and he took it.
@ute trollsBYU's contract with ESPN, guarantees games on either ABC,
ESPN, or ESPN 2 with a maximum of 1 on ESPN U.BYU's contract and
arrangement with ESPN has them on National TV every week. On Tier 1 networks,
ESPN or BYU tv.Big 10 network is mostly Tier 2 or 3 , 1 in some
markets.No ESPN 3 etc. Tell the truth or get off the boards.Why do Utes assume that they will be the featured team from the
Conference? Utah might have 1 or 2 games Nationally televised in a
good year. But once they join Washington States Universe, they'll never be heard
from again.Seriously seen the Wazu Cougars lately.And is
Utah basketball ever going to be marketable again?You ran off
Judkins, the only Mormon connection you had to the Utah kids, most of whom are
lds, and you have not been the same since.Mcbride saw the wisdom of
reaching out to the lds athlete unlike wayne howard who refused to recruit any
Mormon kid, and thats when Utah football became respectable.Shed the
Mormon bias at the u and the U will compete once again for localkids
I wonder if John Lambourne, the OC at Bingham, had anything to do with Langi
going to Utah. You remember Lambourne, used to play RB for...Utah.
I agree hedgehog. Harvey did not go to a BCS power. I am sure he will have a
good experience there though and hope he is happy. From the tone of the posts
from the usual crowd above, maybe we should begin calling him "Heisman
Harvey". Reminiscent of the trolls calling Heaps something similar when Y
fans prased him to high heaven. Anyway, if Harvey does half as good as Heaps
does, he should be able to say he had a good career 5 years from now.
We just didn't even recruit him because due to independence we want way better
players and the really good ones want to come to us because were independent.
Hedgehog, I got a good laugh out of your post at 5:13 PM. You must be exhausted
jumping to all those conclusions / assumptions. Harvey Unga is one of the best
10 running backs ever to play college football in Utah. If Langi ends up doing
in 4 years even close to what Unga did at BYU in 3, he will be considered a
great Ute back. Thanks for the laugh though. Your obsession is still
Langi made the right choice and happy to have him, but I don't see why people
say Utah had to have him. I remember when Matt went down against OSU "how
Utah doesn't have a solid RB" and EW3 leads the conf in yards, yes even
over Unga.With White (coming from JC not HS and here for spring),
Burton, Radley, Vak and possibly Asiata I am sure Utah would have found another
1000 yard rusher, Langi just makes it all the better!Go Utes!
just watched the news, I'm glad to see him go to utah, obviously he wasn't the
best rb there, didn't play very much, compared to BYU's guy playing the entire
This doesnt mention that harvey is starting at the U on Monday. He will be in
Welcome Harvey to the conference of champions and the best team in the state of
Utah!!Another great day to be a UTE!!
Great news for the Utes! We'll need him to help reload quickly. Should make
for a good backfield against tougher opponents. (Please continue to ignore the
inflammatory comments from that "other guy" who keeps hijacking my
good name - I intend to reclaim). Welcome Harvey - run hard!
There's no shame in admitting that Utah needed to replenish its stable of
running backs. Two former all-conference backs have exhausted their
eligibility, and a third had his career cut short by unfortunate injuries.
Turnover is part of the game.I am excited that Harvey elected to
become a Ute. I look forward to watching him play.
There is a God!
The changes of Utah to the Pac-12 and BYU to independence may actually lead to
more local talent staying in-state. I much prefer to see strong competition
between BYu and UTAH for local talent then seeing it go toward either coast!Congratulations to UTAH! Here is hoping that Langi is wonderfully
succesful with the Utes.
BYU fan, Did you even watch the game? Here is my take on both
players in the game.Langi: Had a few carries, but not much yardage.
He blocked admirably, however he looked lost a few times in pass protection.
He was used as more of a fullback than a tailback, so not much to really fairly
judge on.Mathews: Did play the whole game, but don't get too
excited, the West OL gave up double digit sacks and hurries
("dominated" was the description by the announcers). While playing LT
he was completely over matched and even "blown up" a few times. They
pulled him and put him at RG; did better but still gave up a few sacks.All in all, not a great showing for either. Don't get me wrong though, I am
happy to have Langi and really wanted Mathews. Good luck to both next year!
Before anymore of you Utes fans getting too full of yourselves, this cougar fan
say that Mr. Langi made the right choice...not because Utah joined the PAC12,
not because Utah is the best program out those that he considered, it was that
he could play right away. Going to USC would have resulted in him riding the
pine until his senior year, and not being able to play in a bowl. He dropped BYU
from contention for obvious reasons...he can't comply w/ the honor code, and
he'd be riding the pine as well w/ 5-6 more capable and experienced backs ahead
of him...Good luck Mr. Langi, we coogs look forward to introducing you to
Division 1 football next September...be prepared to meet Mr. Pendleton,
Kaveinga, Van Noy, Ogletree, Frashier, and others that will be licking their
re: Riverton Cougar | 4:36 p.m. Jan. 8, 2011When Langi holds a press
conference declaring how great he is, then you can pass judgement on the U.
Until then, hold your tongue.Re: MichiganCoog | 12:47 p.m. Jan. 9,
2011 Being lectured on Pride by a BYU fan, the irony is priceless.
Promoting BYUs D in anyway is comical.
Mos tof BYU's players I have bever seen on any major recruiting boards., Except
for hwaps ana few others, so the BYU fans who think they get top talent think
again. You sign 2 and 3 star polynesian players from Utah and a few out of
staters every year. No diversity or exciting playmakers in your recruiting. And
never recruit instate for speedy skill players what's that all about?
Congrats Langli! You are going to be coached by the best, Whittingham. He will
coach you to be faster, better, stronger and more intuitive. There is no better
coach in college football right now.Also, you are going to be
playing in the Conference of Champions where every single Utah game will be
televised nationally. You will have the opportunity to play for the National
Championship each and every year.Finally, you will be able to play
in the Holiday Bowl, the Sun Bowl, the Alamo Bowl and the Rose Bowl each and
every year.In short, you made a great decision for you and your
future. Welcome aboard. I will be cheering for you all season (5 row, 50 yard
i hope he has fun there. the pac 12 is going to kill the utes. wrong choice in
my eyes. go somewhere where you will actully get some wins. utes dont have a
Re: LP Fan!Sour grapes.
@ otis spurlockAnd never be seen on TV. Utah, every game
National TV? ok, we've now reached the Cookoos nest.reality check:BYU...National TV every game, every week! And
an actual "Contract" with the biggest name in sports ESPN, to back it
up.More like Vegas Bowl, utes, if you're lucky.Seriously, Utah consistently finishing ahead of USC, Stanford,
California, Arizona, ASU, Oregon, Wasington.....Who are you
kidding?Washington State's World is now Your World.See
you all back here about a year from now, you'll see.
Re: BlutoHave fun watching your late night Wednesday & Thursday
night games against your WAC opponents. Face it, you are now joining a league
of obscurity and independence that nobody cares about!!
Someone offer this kid! Barrington Collins is AMAZING!
Bluto wrote:"Utah, every game National TV?" Yes Bluto, every game on National Television. It's one of the many advantages
of belonging to the Conference of Champions.
Wally West | 1:15 p.m. SLC, UT re: Riverton Cougar | 4:36 p.m. Jan.
8, 2011When Langi holds a press conference declaring how great he
is, then you can pass judgement on the U. Until then, hold your tongue.......Scout com Player Evaluation: STRENGTHS Balance
Instincts Tackle-Breaking Ability AREAS FOR
IMPROVEMENT Breakaway Speed Langi: Ive got great
power, vision and breakout speed. And Im also good and catching the ball and
running routes. I think I need to work more on my cutting this season and making
my reads faster. And, he announced on National TV.......I think he did a good job declaring how "great" he is.Can Riverton Coug now release his tounge?Utah Fans are such
hypocrites."People are very inclined to set moral standards for
others. ~Elizabeth Drew, The New Yorker, 16 February 1987""One should examine oneself for a very long time before thinking of
condemning others. ~Moliere"Maybe if Utah fans would stop
telling BYU what behaviors are expected of BYU by Utah fans, and worry about
cleaning up their own backyards...
Great pick Langi....at Utah you will start as a True Frosh...at BYU, you would be riding the bench for 4 yrs behind Quezada.....
BYU fans keep repeating the mantra "Your Utes are going to end up in the
middle of the PAC 12 standings". Did you forget or just not
know that Utah will be playing in a division? The PAC 12 South to be precise.
The Utes win that division they are in the Championship game period. The host
of the game has the best over all conference record. Unlike BYU who will have
to win every game on their schedule to go to a BCS bowl Utah can lose some
conference games and still win their division, win the championship game and go
to the Rose Bowl. Now with the BCS rules committee considering dropping the
limit on how many teams from a BCS conference can go to a BCS bowl game watch
all the available slots be taken by teams in BCS conferences. Ouch, Ouch for
Dave S | 4:15 p.m. Holladay, UT Re: BlutoHave fun
watching your late night Wednesday & Thursday night games against your WAC
opponents.===Can you join Rock of the Marne, and DutchMan, and
point out the Wednesday night games.That, or just admit you only
rebuttal is to perpetuate a false claim.Why did you even post that
false statement, after I posted BYU's schedule on the previous page?2011 BYU Football ScheduleSept. 3 at Ole MissSept. 10 at
TexasSept. 17 Utah Sept. 23 Central FloridaSept. 30 Utah
StateOct. 8 San Jose StateOct. 15 at Oregon StateOct. 22 Idaho
StateOct. 29 ByeNov. 5 at Louisiana TechNov. 12 IdahoNov. 19 New Mexico StateNov. 26 ByeDec. 3 at HawaiiOle
Miss, Texas, Utah, Central Florida are Wac teams?===Listen,
why don't you kids start something new, and talk about Utah on Utah stories. You
got a great kid in Langi. Talk about him. And stop it with the
untruths. It really is petty and unbecoming a PAC program's fanbase.If it is a "great time to be a Ute", then be one.
Buster,"And stop it with the untruths"I got on
for you. How about stop making the tds "indy" experience somehow
"better than what Utah has. Everyone knows that if a BCS conference would
actually invite the tds the tds would drop the whole "indy" pipedream
like a bad habit.Everyone knows this.... including you buster.sleep well.
Yo Wally West,Yes, I am promoting BYU's defense. Why? It is that
same defense that stuffed that awesome Utah offense that is now devoid of any
experience, w/ the departure of most of your skilled (or so they've said)
players like Shakey, Cain, and all 3 of your previous RB's. Yes, Langi is a
great catch on Utah's part. But, w/ the kind of defensive talent that BYU has
coming back for next year, my point was exactly what if I were Harvey Langi
should be very concerned about. Can't wait to see what transpires in
September in Provo, especially the following week after USC introduces your Utes
to the PAC12 w/ a nice pounding in LA. Get ready for your introduction to .500
football for years to come.
Hedge...No one knows how Independence will work out for BYU. It
could or could not be the Ultimate Experience.Can you Utes stop
claiming the "LIE" of Wednesday and Thursday night games.Independence has yet to be decided. Wednesday and Thursday games are just
petty, jealous lies.Man up, and talk about Utah's program, and stop
the jealous hating on BYU.
Ute shoot,"Can you Utes stop claiming the "LIE" of
Wednesday and Thursday night games"hmmm, I never said this.
Take a litle time before you use your knee jerk reactions...k?You
like most tds are very dodgey when ask the simple question...You'd the tds leave
the "indy" experience in a heartbeat if (big if) a BCS actually
invited them to join. You along with your kewgar cousins know the answer.So again I ask. Who got a better deal.Sleep well.
No otis utah will not be playing every game on national tv and neither will the
other schools in the pac10. That is false. Their current contract is regional
and not every team is even shown regionally every week. Some are only shown in
their own markets and the market of the team they are playing. The station most
of them are shown on is almost as obscure as the Mtn.If the new
pac10 tv deal includes national broadcasts then we will all be lucky enough to
be able to watch the utes weekly beatdown and humiliation but until then we will
just have to hope to see a few of them if our cable system carries the right
How's that 4.65 speed going to work in the pac. Team speed appears to be a
thing of the past at the u.
WedgieI'm not sure which I would prefer, better conference or
independence. Probably being part of a top conference but there are some real
advantages to independence that I like and they would have to be considered.1st among those is being able to schedule any team anywhere without
having to worry about conference limitations. I truly think this ability will be
great fun and as a guy that goes to away games on occasion I will definately
look forward to traveling to places i haven't been or places I like.Another advantage is the exclusive tv deal with ESPN. While you want to
downplay it it is in fact quite an acheivment and something very few teams could
do. We will now be able to see every single football and basketball game and
they will all be broadcast everywhere in the nation. yes some will be on ESPN's
secondary channels but those still have widespread distribution and can be at
worst paid for on all systems if they are not included in the basic package. Also BYU will not have to share the considerable revenue they are going
to gain with anyone else.continued
continued from aboveThere are estimates that BYU's total television
revenues could exceed 30million dollars wtih the money from ESPN, their own
broadcasts and rebroadcast rights. That is not a pipe dream those are real
figures. That will not be the case for the utes and their pac10 revenue share
and that is an important consideration.Also BYU is free to negotiate
any bowl deal, tv deal, game deal, etc. that they want to. No one else controls
them or can tell them what to do.Those things are extremely valuable
and any alliance with a conference would have to supply some advantages that
would offset them to be worth it.As a fan I like the idea of playing
for a conference championship but that isn't the most important thing by a long
shot.So in short yes the utes got an upgrade and BYU would have
liked that but there are definately some things about independence that are
better than a conference affiliation despite your efforts to downplay it. I'm not sure utah got a better deal but I am sure utah could not go
independent and get an espn deal like BYU's.
Veritas Aequitas: Your comments are jealous and hateful! No other words to
NewMexicoUte | 6:59 p.m. Albuquerque, NM Veritas Aequitas: Your
comments are jealous and hateful! No other words to describe you. ===LOL, you don't read my posts, do you. I call it like I see it.Oh... My daughters love me. They describe me as honest, loving, caring, and
"tight" -- and "daddy"... Try those words.Here
is my earlier post from this story:===Veritas Aequitas | 9:07
p.m. Jan. 8, 2011 Fruit Heights, UT Congrats to Harvey for
staying local, and finding a University that seems to be a nice fit. It seems to
be a win-win situation for the U and for Harvey. ===PLEASE, point out the jealous and hateful part.==="Just
remember, there's a right way and a wrong way to do everything and the wrong way
is to keep trying to make everybody else do it the right way. ~M*A*S*H, Colonel
Potter""The best way to succeed in life is to act on the
advice we give to others." ~Author Unknown===Lose the
jealousy and hatred. Life is good. There is more to who you are than a football
team. Read a book, go for a walk..."Truth - Justice"
Re: BusterThanks for posting that schedule for next year. I'm
still laughing at the quality of opponents the Zoobs will be playing next
year.Step aside and let the big boys play in the conference of
champions not your puny conference of chumps.
Congrats Utah for bringing in a four star athlete. Likely to start next
year.It's also cool for an athlete like that to stay home and play
football in his back yard, his family can see most of his games, he'll recruit
other blue chippers to stay home, and get a degree from a prestigious
university. Wise move.
@ crowntown1How can you say "You (meaning BYU) sign 2 and 3
star polynesian players from Utah. No diversity or exciting playmakers in your
recruiting." Come on . . . really? How about Dennis Pitta
(CA), Andrew George (CO), Max Hall (AZ), Austin Collie (CA), John Beck (AZ),
Ross Apo (TX), Jake Heaps (WA), "Juice" Quezada (CA), Drew Phillips
(AL), JJ Di Luigi (CA), Kori Gaines (GA), Cody Hoffman (CA), Zac Stout (CA),
Kyle Van Noy (NV), Eathyn Manumaleuna (AK), McKay Jacobson (TX). Do you want me
to continue?But you're right, we do like to recruit great Utah kids
too. Four of the Reynolds brothers, Justin Sorensen (will be the best kicker in
the West next year), Andrew Rich, Jameson Frazier, Jordan Pendleton, Richard
Wilson, Austin Holt and Harvey Unga among others. Tell me that Utes
would not have offered any of these players if they had a chance! Know your
facts before you make ridiculous statements.
CougFanInTexas,take two off your list. Andrew George and Mckay
Jacobson, both grew up mainly in Utah. Andrew George's family is
from a small town outside of Fillmore. Most his family is there still.Mckay Jacobson played high school football at North Sanpete until his jr or sr
Welcome Harvey!Nice pick up K Whitt. This is a perfect fit for both
the U and for Harvey but I expect this to happen more often going forward as we
get into the PAC.Go Utes, to the PAC 12!
OK, no BYU games on Wednesday and Thursday nights if the schedule holds. What
hasn't been decided is what ESPN channel will be used. I assume it will be a
mix of ESPN, ESPN 2, and ESPN U and ESPN 3 which is their stream to computers.
ESPN and ESPN 2 reach about 90 million households so that is great. Someone
please tell me how many games will be on ESPN U and what the household reach is
for ESPN U. Might not be so great.
This kid made a great decision. He will have the opportunity to start as a
freshman AND he is being put into an offense that will use him a lot and rely on
him a lot if he proves himself. Great to have you on board Harvey.Funny, I remmeber when another Harvey (Unga) made the decision to go with
another school, and how disappointed we were because he sold out a lot of his
college career by going to a team that under appreciates the running game. That
Harvery could have been a Heisman contender had he gone to the Utes.Langi, we're hoping you come dedicated. great things will happen!
thts good now we got a legit running back now we need a quarterback!
Langi made the right choice, AND I AM NOT A UTAH FAN. He would have not played
at BYU for at least two years; the Cougs are packed at running back. Probably
why he narrowed his choices to Utah and USC. Plus, who really knows if this kid
wants to live the honor code. I do wish him the best; seems like a phenomenal
Dutchman,"What hasn't been decided is what ESPN channel will be
used"Uhmmm, did you see the viewership numbers for the New
Mexico bowl? over a 30% decline over previous year. I'm sure ESPN is looking
at all options in minimizing the damage done by signing such a deal- I'm
guessing a lot of people have been fired.For all you TDS fans, I
hope you're OK with online streaming....that's how you'll be
"watching" your games.LOL!
Duckhunter says "There are estimates that BYU's total television revenues
could exceed 30million dollars wtih the money from ESPN, their own broadcasts
and rebroadcast rights. That is not a pipe dream those are real
figures."I don't know who these people are who estimate 30
million, but I am very skeptical of that prediction.BYU is
guaranteed 3 games on ESPN, ESPN 2, or ABC, and 1 on ESPNU, at
$800,000-$1,200,000 per game. If ESPN gave $1.2M for each game, BYU can count
on $4.8M. That's a big improvement over what the MWC was giving its teams, but
it is still $25 million shy of the $30 million estimate you suggested.If ESPN decided to air EVERY ONE of BYU's games, and paid top dollar for each
of them, that gets the Cougars $14.4 million. It would take BYU going to a BCS
bowl to reach 30 million. A possible but extremely unlikely combination of
events.Trust me - I hope both BYU and Utah do well in their future
endeavors. But let's stick closer to facts and likelihoods rather than
suggesting the extremely unlikely in our arguments.
BYU and ESPNESPN can move BYU's games to other dates based on its
needs. BYU is guaranteed only that ESPN will carry three games on ESPN, ESPN2
or ABC (which is co-owned by Disney) and one on ESPNU. Games not picked up will
then be broadcast "nationally" on BYU's broadcast system...that will
be great for BYU fans, but offers no special exposure to a wider football
RE: coachcarter"Mckay Jacobson played high school football at
North Sanpete until his jr or sr year"HMMMMMM. Where did you
hear that? You need to check your facts. He played all 4 years at SouthLake HS
in Carrol As a sophomore, he had 70 catches for 910 yards and nine touchdowns,
with three punts returned for scores. Also before the FSU game last
year, they showed a little league picture that had McKay and Ponder (FSU QB)
fromt he same little league football team in Dallas. As far as
Langi. I hate to admit it, but I think this could be a bigger catch than most
fans realize. He will be a great addition to the Utes. Come on BYU fans give it
a rest. If he would have gone to BYU you would all be singing his praises, and
the Ute fans would be ripping him.
Congrats Harvi, good choice with all the RB's at Utah leaving, he should be able
to step in and play early. Good pick up for the U. Hopefully he can carry the
load for Jordan Wynny. Hopefully the Utes find a better QB soon.
Harvey loves the spotlight. He wore a utah wrist band during the high school
championship game while he constantly watched himself on the jumbotron.So he had already commited to utah. But...He wants to be on tv and pretend he
is still deciding. Lame.
What's interesting is how quite the kewgs are about thier current recruiting
class. Both Rivals and Scout have them ranked well below some of the nations
doormats.For all the ESPN/ indy chest pounding the current results
are alarming.Lets review shall we;*7-6 with a loss to
Utah State* 30% decline in bowl viewership* both OC & DC
fired* Worst recruiting class in several years I'm sure ESPN
is making the necessary "ajustments".
A couple of thoughts on this:1. I really like Utah's running back
situation for next year. you add Harvey to a mix that already includes John
White, Lucky Radley, Tauni Vakapuna, and Beau Burton. Competition will be
fierce.2. With White and Harvey, you have a very nice 1, 2 punch of
guys with different stlyes and abilities. 3. There is a lot of
talent on offense, in just about every position. I hope we can utilize all of
It still all starts with the QB. And I still question Utah's QB. I am hopeful
that he will be back at 100% and 25 lbs heavier and stronger but... We shall
@90 CougarYou aren't understanding this. No they are not going to
receive that amount of money directly from ESPN. And the 30 million estimate is
the most optimistic estimate I have seen but it comes with some actual analysis
and isn't just a number.BYU's deal gives them full rights to their
games after the original ESPN broadcasts. That means they can re-broadcast them
themselves, and sell advertising while they do it. They can also sell the games
on pay per view. They can also sell the game dvd's themselves as single games or
as packages such as entire season packages, etc.That is not
something most schools (I don't know of any other school at all) can do. I can
tell you right now there are alot of people willing to drop $100 on a BYU season
football game dvd set. If only 100,000 people were to do that then it would
generate $10,000,000.00 for that single season alone. That doesn't even take
into account single game dvd's ($15 each?) and other ways to garner sales of the
games. There is much more to this.
ContinuedWe haven't even discussed basketball yet, or any of the
other sports. They also have the same right to rebroadcast basketball (and all
other sports), to sell rebroadcasts, pay per view, dvd's, etc. Basicly they own their own brand and can sell it in any manner they want to
sell it.The ESPN deal is great, it gives them several million
dollars per year as well as exposure. You also left the money ESPN will pay them
to broadcast their basketball games out of your estimate by the way. But the real money, the big $ come into play when they sell all the other
stuff. I know my boys will be getting DVD packages for Christmas and their
birthdays. That's just money straight to the program.You really need
to look beyond the ESPN deal to see what this is going to do for BYU.
coachcarterWhat are you talking about? Andrew George is NOT from
Utah. His father, R.L. or Richard (who is my cousin) is from Kanosh, Utah, but
left years ago. R.L. attended BYU on a track scholarship (also played football
his freshman year) and after graduation moved back east to finish his education
and start work. He eventually moved to Englewood, CO where Andrew was raised and
attended Cherry Creek High School.
Everyone keeps on talking how legit Byu's recruiting class was in 2010. Lets
take a closer look, in comparison to Utah's 2010 recruiting class.Utah
(Rivals.com)1. Reggie Dunn 4 star recruit2. John Cullen 4 star
recruit 3. V.J. Vehonko 4 star recruit4. Kenneth Scott 4 star
recruit5. Terrel Reese 4 star recruit6. Tevita Finau 4 star
recruitByu (Rivals.com) 1. Ross Apo 4 star recruit 2.
Jake Heaps 4 star recruit3. Bronson Kaufusi 4 star recruit Currently as of 2011 recruiting class Utah has two four star recruits compared
to Byu's one. Out of the top 5 Utah high school preps Utah has four of them that
are committed, and Byu has one.
@DuckHunterif you think there are 100,000 people who would drop 100
dollars on a BYU football DVD, I have a great ponzi scheme that you can join for
only an initial downpayment of 1,000,000 dollars.
It will be fun to see how Harvey does up on the hill... at least for the next 2
years until he moves to the NFL. Why choose Utah over USC...1. He
will start as a freshman2. No Bowl sanctions (1 more year)Adds
up to a plan to make the NFL jump as soon as possible.
4D,You might want to add a few other 4 star Utes to last years class
( per scout)Dexter Ransom 4 starPo'u Palelei 4 starJames Aiono 4 starAny attempt by the tds to suggest they had a
better recruiting class than the Utes is simple delusion.
"Harvey loves the spotlight. He wore a utah wrist band during the high
school championship game while he constantly watched himself on the
jumbotron".Hmmm, didn't Jake Hypes hold a big presser to
announce his selection? Also, I saw Austin Collie looking at the jumbotron a
few times while playing inside Lucas Oil Stadium for the Colts. It's what guys
do now days on all teams. Get over it.
@big benThat was simply a number to illustrate a point but thanks
for being your typical troll self. I do not know how many they would sell or
even what they would charge but 100,000 is not an outrageous number of them. So
they sell half that many, so what? It is still a lucrative revenue stream, one
that other schools (your beloved utes included) do not have. It would probably
equal several million dollars per year.Tell me do you know anything
at all about marketing and sales? My guess is no so let me enlighten you just a
little bit. The more avenues an individual, in this case BYU, has to market
their product the more of that product they will sell. The more they sell the
more money they will make. That should be simple enough even for your utah
education to understand.Aslo advertising can be sold to be included
with dvd's and rebroadcasts, pay per view, online streaming, etc. The avenues
for revenue are vast and BYU owns the rights to all of those avenues
themselves.You like to pretend to be unbiased so why don't you
actually do it?
@duckhunter1. you are on a utah article, peddling BYU and their
revenue streams. And you say I am a troll?2. Amazing how I merely
say that I find the number 100,000 at 100 dollars a little high and it causes
you to go on a tangent about economics and marketing that any second grader in
"junior achievement" would know.3. I never claim to be
"unbiased". Im a ute fan, but I think I have a good perspective. Im
not a BYU hater, in fact if you read my posts, youll know I give plenty of
credit to the boys in blue. And is that supposed to be an insult? Do you claim
to be "unbiased"? Will someone who is "unbiased" agree with
you? I dont know what you mean. anyway, my point was and is that
if you think that 100 is a little too much for a DVD pack, if you want to sell
100,000 copies. Take a deep breath.
@DuckhunterFirst, your on a Ute article calling a Ute a troll?
Classic BYU fan post.Second, have you heard of supply and demand?
How many DVDs will you buy if BYU goes 7-6 or 8-5 or 9-4 or 10-3? That should
be simple enough even for your junior high school education to understand.Better yet why don't you go find out how many DVDs were sold by Notre
Dame football over the last decade. Then come back and tell us how "Notre
Dame of the West" will match it.BYU is in real finacial trouble
if you projectns are anythig like:"Langi won't be going to
utah. Dream on. LOL" -- Duckhunter (Jan. 4, 2011) Who needs DVD
sales, we're PAC-12 baby!Go UTES!
Lets try this again. Duckhunter - to sell DVDs BYU need only to liscense the
product. Since I don't see any BYU season in review sets anywhere it is safe to
say someone in authority does not think the venture would be profitable. Unlike
the 2004 and 2008 season sets Utah sells. The only DVDs I see BYU on are the
rivalry ones and they obviously needed Utah for that. I don't know what you do
for a living but I'd bet it isn't marketing.
Poor ute trolls. You have no rights to your games, not that anyone outside of
the sl valley would want them anyway. And yes poor pathetic little flames I am
in marketing and sales. But once again those are only one way BYU
will make money through independence. They have many, many ways of marketing
themselves and their games.I sense depseration in the ute
"fan" base. Listen if you really think what utah has is so much better
then why do you care so much about what BYU is doing? Why does it concern you so
much that they may have avenues of revenue that utah does not? Whatever the exact dollar figures turn out to be the fact remains BYU is set
to make money from many different outlets and without a conference affiliation
they need to do just that. I think what really bothers you guys is
the knowledge that utah could never accomplish the same thing. They need a
conference of schools better than themselves to prop them up.Pathetic really. LOL
DuckhunterYour numerous posts on a Utah article are getting testier
and testier. Define pathetic. Then look in the mirror. A troll will be
staring back. Find a BYU article to post on and put this one to rest.
Look at BYU'S recruits! half the guys don't have any other offers besides BYU.
JJ dilugi was a good player here in Calif but the guy had maybe 1 or 2 offers
coming out of high school. The only advantage BYU has is the instate poly's. I
get it how BYU recruits with these camps and all but they don't recruit exciting
or flashy players. But they recruit those LDS poly kids well.
The recruiting shift began after Utah's second BCS win and became even more
dramatic with the PAC-12 announcement. What is BYU going to have
left if they can't own the top players in Utah? I give it a year or two for even
most LDS kids in Utah to get used to watching Utah play on the big stage while
BYU plays a weak schedule in October and November. Utah will eventually own 90%
of the best players in the state. Matthews is a good player for BYU
to sign this year, but you all are joking yourself if you would not find value
in Langi and Fakahafau who are the two best skill players in the state both
headed to Utah. Loaded at RB is the reason he didn't sign? Get over
yourself, perhaps he wanted to play in real conference. The
Bingham pipeline has been great for the cougars, yet they couldn't land the best
player that schools has had to offer. This is a big statement
recruit for Utah.
Byu has 17 recruits committed for next year.. 12 from Utah and 6 of those from
Utah County. Not a good sign with National LOI day 3 weeks away and some of the
recruiting coaches missing in action. Utah has 20 recruits with 9 from
Utah.. some very good horses at that. Harvey should do well under the coaching
staff up on the hill, where BYU is in a muddle ,not having a staff completed
and unrest with the independence idea. Might be a real test for the Utes
in the new conference but it's still not the same as playing New Mexico State
and Louisiana Tech. The Ute staff will continue to learn through toil
and trouble but the ego of Bronco is rock solid and doesn't bode well for
positive publicity. ( 2 QB,s anyone )? Who doesn't think that Riley's starts
were do to a promise made to Mr. Neilson by Mendenhall if he could get him to
change his mind and commit to the "Y" ? Good Luck Harvey you
have my best wishes ever for a successful career.Coach Kyle has always said that
he wants to establish the running game first.
Nice to see Jaydee, Bluto, ducky and a miriad of other byu homers out in force
on this article about a UTAH recruit. Love it, love it, love it.Just
shows how much you care and how bitter you are because of the current direction
of byu football.The Utes just keep one upping you and it hurts so
bad.Thanks to all the byu fans that have congradulated the kid
though. There is some class down there besides Chad Lewis, I guess.
utahcountyute10-3 Utah wasn't even good enough to finish the season
ranked in the AP Top 25.The national media is buying the MUSS hype
machine.All talk. No walk. Three humiliating losses to
end the season.
JustthefaxWell...98 votes > 1 , #23 USA ranking > "no
votes", 10-3 > 7-6.... If the Utes were humiliated, what does that make
byu?2 out of 3, better recruiting class, PAC 12 and SCOREBOARD!
Utahcountyute,Oh yea, well....um well, well we got a verbal commit
from Adam Pulsipher...ummmmcrickets crickets crickets
You Utah folks get so wrapped up in a sport that neither team has proven to be
that great at. Get over it - Go SEC!
Just FYI to all Utah fans, BYU did pull Langi offer a few weeks ago...
@ Vonka????? You Utah folks ? You're writing from Lehi........ I'll bet you
were a Laker fan last year and a Heat fan now.
good luck harvey! but u will have some competition at the running back spot once
Tana Afieaki transfers although u are better he has college ball experience
re: TheHailstorm | 7:45 a.m. Jan. 11, 2011 "Byu has 17 recruits
committed for next year.. 12 from Utah and 6 of those from Utah County."and how many from Timpview?
Wally West 2 from Timpview