utahcountyute"Let's talk after the cougs get throttled by UNLV
Am I really sitting here longing for the second coming of Majerus?? The last
few Ute basketball games have turned my stomach. I have patiently watched and
listened to Boylen's bluster this year, only to leave each game (winning or
losing - mostly losing) with the words of one of his former (transferred)
players ringing in my ears - "Utah will never (...live up to Utah's
standards for basketball success) as long as Boylen is driving the boat!"
Giacoletti and Boylen have sucked the life out of a great college basketball
program. Dr. Hill, it's time to cut the losses before we suffer a PAC-12
beat-down. Two words - Jeff Judkins. 'Nuff said.
Front row seats behind the Ute bench at South Bend and the Vegas Bowl left me
wondering what was going on in the Utah locker room. Against ND, the coaches
were barely speaking to the players. Against BSU, Christopher stormed off the
field at halftime lobbing F-bombs at the coaching staff. Mid-way through Q3,
Jereme Brooks was up in the face of Asiata and a couple of the coaches. He had
to be physically restrained. In 40 years of Ute football, I have never
witnessed that level of dissention. Who can enlighten me as to what was going
on? If that type of rift is allowed to continue, next year will be a rough one
for Whit & company.
I think it is perfect timing for the Utes to make the cange to the PAC. PAC
athletics are a bit more down than usual.I always have faith in
Kyle. The football team will do fine next year. I think Kyle and Bronco both
were great calls for their Universities.My issues have never been
with the UofU, just the way a select few of the fanbase, and players represent
the state. (Oh, and Boylen -- getting better during a 5 game slide that included
San Diego?)Have I mentioned Tommy Connor?===And
Uteology, my dad lived during the recession, my grandpa lived before WWI, so if
you are talking leatherheads, the U's glory days... I entered the U in '79, my
wife graduated in the 80's... So, understand the reader base when
you refer to your "grandpa's teams".So you don't really
have a base of experience to work off of. That explains alot.And you
are still using the strawman selective facts... Work with us, and clean up your
Interesting comments. Kyle is a guy you can root for. I live or die cougar blue.
Kyle's name was mentioned for those high profile programs just maybe because he
could be gotten. The Ute D has been really good for several years. The offense
is starting to come apart with lots of questions. Your trip to the Pac 10+ii
will prove where those questions are. There are cheap shot teams in the Pac 10
like USC and Oregon. Utah will have an increase in injuries. You will probably
be in the 7 win arena for several years. As for basketball. Ouch. The forseeable
future shows it will be ugly. This is what is meant by CANNON FODDER. Kyle is
good, you may get some folks who will help on offensem but then again maybe
The front 7 on defense will be much better next year with the changes at LB, so
replacing the secondary will not be a huge issue. Manis is gone, but you gain
back Fotu and Williams who were hurt this year. I could see Fotu used at DE or
LB and Blechen at MLB next year which is a major speed upgrade. Martinez and
Walker will not be needed on every down and Fehoko will also be in the mix.
Utah has placed several players in the NFL recently from the Corner
and Safety spots and Scalley does a great job coaching them up. Belchens play
as a Freshman is a great example. Whit has also done a nice job recruiting and
making position changes in the secondary. There is a ton of talent
already in the program to replace what is lost at WR, OL, RB and Secondary
positions. Even at QB if needed. I would have liked to see more Reggie Dunn and
less Shaky at WR this year. The big questions are Wynn's health
and ability to put on some weight in the off-season, and the offense making some
adjustments to utilize talent.
UteologyYour Grampa really went to the U in the 80s? Weird, mine was
alive during the Depression.Good luck being part of the pac next
for utahcountyute:How easy to be selective in comparisons of records
and teams played:Here's one to wrap your head around...Utes lose BIG on NBC to a Notre Dame team that was 4-5 at the time coming off
a loss to...wait for it...Tulsa?So by your
rationale...Tulsa>NotreDame>UtahOh, if you didn't notice...the
football powerhouse CO Buffs you just downgraded...they're your new rivals.
Simply beating Utah at home will be reward enough for BYU fans. The rest will be
"Boylen and his staff say they are extremely close to being where they need
to be to compete at a high level in the MWC."Huh? Are you
kidding me? Oral Roberts anyone?
@utahcountyuteYou forgot one Y home game: University of Utahagain...do your homework!
JaydeeYou mean the same Georgia Bulldogs that finished 6-7 and got
beat by Colorado? Sorry, I over looked that.I will admit that UCF
was a stretch and they will give byu all they can handle, but I was just
including all of the home games that will be sooooo very exciting next year for
coog fans to enjoy.Cheers
Swoop (see how obsessed he is with the Utes) and the coog are right, they know
good football, coming off a huge win against UTEP, a solid 7-6 season they know
how to win. Remember they crushed UW last year at home, so they know all
about the PAC, and now they are off to being independent because so many BCS
conferences want all the national respect and support they have, us little Utes
don't know what we are in for. So you UTES up there talking about how we play
USC, UCLA, have a Championship game, in a AQ and end up in the same bowl that
TDS does if we go .500, you keep your mouths shut! If anyone knows
and talks Spirit Honor Independence Tradition it is our Mid-Major buddies from
down south!Dont forget the fact that Burton is still un-blocked, we
are 2-3, 6-9, 6-10 or beat them more than they beat us in the MWC, they are the
TDS!HI HO HI HO OFF TO THE PAC WE GO!Go UTES!
Are you seriously downgrading UCF as a BYU opponent?Do you ever do
any homework?UCF Knights are:* Ranked #25 before the
bowls.* Defeated Georgia in the Liberty Bowl.* Will
definitely finish ranked higher than the 2010NCUtes.If you're going
to take shots, at least do so with some credibility.
UteologyPretty selective list there; lets expand it just a bit:Conference ChampionshipsBYU 4Utah 4Top 15
FinishesBYU 3Utah 2Doak Walker Award WinnersBYU
1Utah 0Even with the Crowton years (the worst three years of
BYU football in the last fifty), and Utah's two BCS busting seasons, BYU still
won as many MWC championships as Utah, and had just as many 10+ win seasons.BYU also finished consistently higher in the polls, and BYU added an
additional national individual award winner -- bringing BYU's total to 15.Even in their heyday, Utah still couldn't manage one single player who
was outstanding enough to win a national individual award.(Don't
bother bringer up draft picks; if Alex Smith had really been that good, he would
have won the Heisman, or at least one of the other major quarterback awards.)
swoop: I will have fun watching the Utes abuse Montana state. I will also have
fun on my planned trip to Berkeley, Watch them play USC, UCLA Arizona and
Arizona State as well. I like that schedule much more than the TDS that somehow
believes that playing a watered down WAC schedule makes the "Notre Dame
swoop"Probably about as much fun as you'll have at the Montana
State game. lol"True, you got me there. BUT...you also have to
sit through Idaho St, Utah St, UCF, San Jose St, and New Mexico St at home! *crickets*
Swoop"Probably about as much fun as you'll have at the Montana
State game. lol"True, you got me there, but how thrilling will
UCF, Utah State, San Jose State, Idaho State and New Mexico State be? *crickets*
lolI'll be at the basketball game next week too. Let's talk after
the cougs get throttled by UNLV tonight.
Basketball is in bad shape, won't change much unless Boylen is fired.Football, the offense has major issues and the problem starts at the OC. It's
one thing to be loyal but it's another to ignore signs that A-Rod is a step down
from Ludwig. I hope A-Rod can turn it around, but that's what I
said in week 10, 12, and 13... where the offense continued to be horrible. If
it wasn't for The Block the season would have been a big failure.@MichiganCoog and SwoopI rather struggle in the PAC-12 than to
struggle and finish 5th in the MWC.In the MWC....500 or
below seasons:BYU 5 Utah 210+ wins:BYU 5 Utah 5undefeated (top 5):BYU 0Utah 2This
isn't your grandpa's Utes (the 80s), every trend proves it:A)
rankingsB) record vs ranked teamsC) players being drafted in the
NFLD) increasing class rankings E) head to head vs BYUThey all show Utah is on the right track. If I am wrong then why was KW's
name mentioned for Tennessee, Miami, and Florida openings.
Now, you have what you campaigned for and the fans have done their bragging, but
your on your chosen pedestal next year and it's going to soon be time to show
everyone that you belong. Thats called when the "rubber meets the
road". Any concerns now?
utahcountyute"Have fun at the Idaho game next year
though."Probably about as much fun as you'll have at the
Montana State game. lolThe September game, however, will be a lot of
fun! Luck won't play a factor, though, because your beat down will be
decisive."Kwitt and his staff have always come
through."That's what we heard this year. Kwitt always wins the
big games. Utah always wins their bowl games.*crickets*Why no mention of the basketball game next week?*crickets*adieu
UU32:Riles is much better as the voice of the Utes and they should
have never changed him. In fact they should have left the whole booth intact
with stat guys and spotters as well. So the question is...Riles, when are you
going to bring your old spotter back :)
Nicely said UtahCountyUte! Michigan Coug can save his whiny concerns for his
own team. This isn't the Utes of the 70s and 80s. This is the Chris Hill -
Kyle Whittingham - MUSS Utes! Through thick and thin, I'm in!Go UTES!
MichigancoogLucky for us you're not. Have fun at the Idaho game next
year though. LOLThere are questions going into the PAC in football
with the level of competition for sure. Basketball is not that big of a deal
because they can only go up from where they are.Kwitt and his staff
have always come through. The defense is always atleast good and most of the
time great. The offense does need some attention but with critical pieces coming
in, the Utes will compete. Michigancoog.... your team down south
will be the first to see if the Utes can compete next year. Look forward to the
game in Sept and we don't need your "Luck".Cheers
I think the Utes need to look at making a change in the broadcasting booth.
Bring back Lageschulte!
@MichiganCoog. Thanks for your concern, I think will be ok without any
"green backs" next year. We'll have $ as BYU in 2012, with more $
coming in in 2013 and beyond. Middle of the Pac 12 has us playing BYU in bowl
games. BYU has great and storied programs in football and basketball. Good luck
to them in the future. As a Ute Nation we're very happy and excited about where
we are and where we are headed.GO UTES!!!!!
I'd hate to be a ute-fan right now...stinky basketball team, all your most
important Football team positions completely gone, and a new conference on top
of that spells complete and utter disaster. Finishing last in the MWC in
basketball, followed by a humiliating football season ahead, with no green backs
coming into the UTE coffers for the next 3 seasons, will result in a lot of
empty seats, a dis-interested fan-base will result in a lost cause on the hill.
Nice move to the PAC12, only to become the 3 eyes step-sister that nobody cares
about presents a very gloomy future...GOOD LUCK yoots you're gonna need alot of
Boylen is doing a good job and we should all stand behind him and support the
guy. I say keep him on and offer him a 3-5 year extention plus a bonus.
The real question is who is hired when Boylen is fired? Can we get a name? A
coach who actually has been a coach, not some rah-rah clown at the end of the
bench. Boylen has destroyed Utah basketball and he needs to be let go now, but
if we have to wait three months, so be it. Just get rid of the meat head!