I agree with Derik. This country has become a breeding ground for
"pansies". I bet the ones who disagree, are the same ones who's kids
are out of control at church or in public places and you encourage it because
they are "just expressing themselves". I bet they are the ones who
played football on x box or play station because "real Football" was
too dangerous. We all make decisions in life based on consequence. I know
football is dangerous and i have the choice whether to play or not, knowing i
might get hurt. I am a fireman knowing i might get burned or die one day because
its dangerous. These are risks we take to do what we love. I would rather see
football banned now than see it digress into powder puff or the local ward
turkey bowl. Its time to man up, or stick to video games, coed flag football,
mini vans, and time out! (sorry about the mini vans).
This article reflects a misconception of what a man should be in this society.
Should men be willing to abide pain? Yes. Should they be foolish, out of
control, or succumbent to the prevailing attitudes of the day of how one
displays his toughness? No. You tough it out when you have to, and don't go
out of your way looking for pain.Extrapolating Stevenson's comments,
why don't we eliminate protective gear altogether? Football is a game to be
won, not one in which players try to intentionally injure their opponents. It's
about skill, intelligence, finesse, strategy, and sportsmanship. This is a
sport and a game, not a fight. Brutes fight. Real men should separate
themselves from brutal behavior.There are too many sissies today,
who can't stand discomfort of any sort, even outside of football. They complain
too much about it being too hot or too cold, or the food not tasting good. So
should we reduce ourselves to third-world country status? Of course not. On
the contrary, we should be always seeking to improve the quality of life,
meantime tolerating pain without complaint. THAT is real toughness.
As Gru said....."knocked oooooooovverrrr"
This guy definitely has a few loose screws (probably from multiple
concussions)as several comments have pointed out. While entertaining to read
(nut cases often are) I am surprised that such lunacy was given a forum. The sad
thing is that there are those out there who may actually take this guy
Time for better helmets to reduce brain damage.
Wait... did some more reading up on old Derik. Were these comments really made
by a guy who never played a down in a single game in the NFL. I don't do this
often but....ROFLOLHe isn't even on the NFLs list of
players who ever played the game. Oh, this is rich. The DN could not find a
quote from anyone who actually played the game? How weak is that.
What a bunch of over the top manly man chatter. What ever.
Lotsa pansies these days. My advice if you are one of them is don't play
football, don't let your pansie sons play football, and don't watch it
either.Your son still won't be any good if they eliminate the
contact so don't try to ruin it for the ones that have what it takes.
I served a mission with Derik's brother. They basically had the same
personality. Makes me laugh just reading the article. His brother was a great
guy, and Derik was a great player.
Im a Utah fan but know BYUs rosters very well. Stevenson, I barely remember.When you make moronic statements like the following: "I used to
start to salivate when I lined up across from a tight end or running back in
thermal underwear. I could smell weakness. I knew I would have him in tears
before halftime. There is no way you can take this Tool seriously.Being properly dressed to play any sport, in any condition is not a sign of
weakness. It is a sign of common sense. Things we did Back In the Day have been
proven fool hardy.Football is a violent game. Long term safety of
players should always be considered. Period!Dick, I know it was a
slow week for you, but dont give morons a forum for their irrationality.Go Utes!
I'm starting a petition to have LES renamed. Sure LaVell Edwards did a lot for
football in Provo, but let's all admit here and now who has brought the Cougar's
program to where it stands today.
As a young man I loved the sport of football! I was always taught to keep my
head up when I tackled to avoid head injury not "lead with my eyes." I
still had plenty of big hits and was a sure tackler. I think it is very
disturbing to see illegal hits continued to be glorified and praised. If we want
to preserve the greatest game in the world we must preserve its players. I
myself suffered a few concussions beginning in the 7th grade. When you have to
stay awake to avoid slipping into a coma, I think it should be classified as
serious not sissy. The following measures might help. First eliminate helmet to
helmet contact in the pros. Start suspending guys for this stuff. They will get
the message. Second educate young men on not only the proper way to tackle but
also the effects of repeated concussions. Finally require better helmets. I
dont care if it looks goofy. If everyone is wearing a new protective helmet
then it just be normal and a few years down the road no one care about how it
Old people have been calling younger people "sissies" since the days
of Sparta.Young people have been calling old people out of touch
since the days of Nero.As far as having Steve Young on here
commenting instead of Derik, we know what he thinks of current players. Just
listen to his comments after MNF. Talk about uphill both ways.Old
dudes are crabby and delusional.Young dudes are sissies.'Til the end of time.
My dad could beat up your dad!!! He wasnt a sissy he played football with no
pads at all and he always played in the snow going uphill against the wind the
footballs were made out of rocks and back in the day you could bite and gouge
eyes he also played against the nazis in the WWII and scored 12 touchdowns while
taking three bullets to his back. Really is this article for real? Cmon!
These post are the funniest things I have read for a long time. How can you take
this guy serious. Did he even have a NFL Career? No you played in Provo a couple
years and that gives you the right to call out professional athletes something
you never obtained. Least get chad lewis or steve young to comment on this kind
of story. I think you are suffering from brain injuries if you think that
football has become sissy my friend. Wow they wore sleeves to stay warm, do you
still walk around without a shirt in a snowstorm? Dont compare yourself to
Urlacher major difference he is a primetime player while you work at a kiosk in
the Provo mall
Stevenson was a beast. Don't hate the playa, hate the game.
Don't kid yourselves. The NFL doesn't care about the safety of the players. It's
about $. Prolong the careers of the high-profile, big money offensive players.
Squeeze out a few more years for each Brett Farve type and put some butts in
seats. Spare us the "health and safety" speech.
In My Opinion your poor 4 boys are going to grow up to be very sensitive. Very,
very sensitive. And well informed. And very commonsensical. And very in-touch
with their feelings. But you should probably not let them play football. Wrap
them in bubble-wrap and send them out in the backyard to play with the girls
from next door.
I speak as an avid BYU Football fan and as a mother of 4 boys. I cringe to
think that my boys could ever turn out like Derik Stevenson is portrayed to be
in this article. His views about the game of football, toughness, and manhood
are frankly appalling to me...so off-base from what real manhood entails. As
for changes in the game of football...things have changed because we have
learned a better way to do things based upon sad lessons learned from past
experience and based upon new knowledge and common sense.
Derik Stevenson is Luke Skywalker's real father. That was one bad dude. Back in
the day NO ONE would dare get up in his kitchen.
I played D-1 ball. Broke three helmets because I "led with my eyes."
I think I may have gotten two concussions: One when I was knocked
out for a minute or so playing flag football the night before a high school game
-- which I played. The second in a college game. I was dazed,
walked to the huddle with the guys whose jerseys matched mine, my head cleared
right before the next snap.I LOVE football, loved hitting people so
hard they remembered the hit when we met years later, loved playing, loved
coaching for many years -- and I think Stevenson is a blowhard, and this article
is dumb.Concussions are no joke. Nor are injuries. Jim McMahon's
brain damage is sad.Despite the fact I love football, I am all for
protection, and rules that protect players.We didn't know what a
concussion was in my day. We also didn't know about dehydration. No one drank
water at practice, even during August two-a-days -- to toughen us up. That is
as stupid as saying people are "sissies" for knowing the difference
between "pain" and "injury," or for making rules to prevent
RIGHT ON Derik (and DH)Nauseating, but totally expected to see all
the libs, nay-sayers, sports pacifists flocking to comment on this SPOT-ON
opinion of football, and by extension, our society. Guess most of you hate
boxing or MMA as well?To those wanting to outlaw football
altogether, or continue legislating it into the ground until they finally take
off the pads and just play flag like the wannabe intramural college weekend
warriors, or two-hand touch, and to those who say they want strategy and skill
over hard-nosed football, played the way it was DESIGNED to be played, some
suggestions:1 - switch to watching soccer, televised chess matches
or Dancing With the Stars.2 - Join Greenpeace, the Sierra Club or some
other liberal feel-good organization: go save the world and leave football
alone.3 - move to Mamby-Pamby Land.4 - dress your boys in short
shorts and pink socks5 - join the Marines and try selling your POV in the
barracks at boot - good luck with THAT, Francis.and finally, if all
else fails,6 - change the station or turn the TV off. But leave the
For those of you decrying the battlefield analogy, maybe we should get rid of
all war analogies; like no more shotgun formation, no long bombs, heck, no more
offense or defense. Maybe we should keep religion out of the game too, so no
more Hail Mary's. Life is tough. It's war out there. When I get in
a tight spot I'll be calling Derik, not those of you who got participation
awards in T-ball.
Who cares? This guy is not the type of person I'd be going to for advice on
Amen. I remember going to High School Seminary and on Friday before the football
game, inevitably someone would pray "Bless that no one will get hurt in the
game". It's football. That's like praying to stay dry and then going out in
a rain storm. It's like praying your eyes won't get hurt when you stare at the
sun. Honestly. I wonder if any of these commenters have played tackle football
on a competitive level because the author's right: every player gets hurt every
game. Seriously. It's just a matter of how bad. Big bruises, bloodied knuckles,
broken ribs. There's a spectrum but the bottom line is FOOTBALL IS NOT SAFE.
It's not designed to be safe. It is all about one massive body moving running as
fast as possible carrying the ball with another man set on a collision course to
stop the ball. If you want safety, or pray for it, use some common sense and
simply avoid football.
I could not disagree more. I'm not interested in his manly perspective. It is
unfortunate to watch skilled players knocked out of games because of a vicious
hit. I want to see talent and skill not just a bunch of brutes pounding their
heads together and knocking each other in to an early grave.
Yep. Football is for sissies. Real men play rugby!
I'm glad to see so many comments taking this guy to town for his
"Sissy" comments. I'm guessing he hasn't seen the reports that came
from studying the brains of former football players. Just try googling
"chronic traumatic encephalopathy", and I'll think you'll see why
football needs to be sissified. This isn't something to be "taken like a
man". We're talking about long term permanent brain injury here.In fact, I for one am in huge favor of "sissifying" football even
more. People seem to be incurring more and more injuries these days, and I think
it's time some rules were changed to account for that.
People, including this ex-player, too easily forget this is a BUSINESS. It is a
business for the millionaires who own teams and seek to make a hefty profit. It
is also a business to the TV executives who shell out billions of dollars for
broadcasting rights.In regards to the game tonight, again this is a
business for the NFL and the Eagles. Philly needs as many patrons in the stands
as possible. They need to sell every ticket available, and sell as much
food/merchandise to those ticket holders as possible. That was not going to
happen were ticket holders not able to get to the game, period. Financial
decision. As for the NFL and NBC, they need people to watch this game from
their home, if they are not going. That becomes very difficult for Eagles fans
who are out stuck in a blizzard, instead of sitting in front of their TV. As for the concussions, its all about business. It hurts the
owners/players/league when starters are continually missing games due to injury.
They need to keep as many starters healthy as possible.Just common
I bet this guy was really really strong
Sounds like Derik suffers from too many hits to his head. Fans pay big bucks to
see Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Michael Vick, Aaron Rodgers, and yes even the
beloved "living right" Austin Collie play football and do not want to
see them on the injured reserve list because of some out of control viscious
hit. What was once a 250 lb tackle moving like a lumbering bear is now a 350 lb
giant moving like a jackel. Yes, the game has changed a lot Dick and Derik.
Time to get with it.
I go back to 2-way football in the early sixties before offensive and defensive
teams were allowed. My 1964 Rose Bowl huskies had huge backs who weighed
slightly over 200 lbs. A 200 lb lineman was normal, 225 was big, 250 was almost
unheard of.Today, normal is 300 lbs for a lineman, and 250 pound
running backs are not unusual.It is all about weight training and
drugs (legal or not). I met a former all-America linebacker for Nebraska who
dropped 45 lbs after he finished his career (he did not want to play NFL). How
did he drop the weight? He stopped lifting. He still weighed about 195 and was
ripped.Bigger faster stronger is reality. Force = mass times
acceleration. A lot of mass and rapid acceleration makes for very hard hits. The
brain hasn't changed since 1960, but the brawn has. I remember seeing two or
three guys knocked completely out nearly every game. They'd be back in after
some smelling salts or something. Today, hits with 1690 equipment would be
fatal.I'm in awe of today's players. Whatever you call them, they
wait....football is dangerous?
The limp-wristed ninnies are taking over. The lib bloggers have even infected
the BYU Cougar Football chat rooms and message boards.
Football is "sacred ground" don't let them feminize it. Stand up
people. We don't have much left.
AHHHHHHHGGGGGHHHH. How I feel after reading the incredible wimps and illiterates
who post. Great article, Dick. Some of us understand the spirit and
allegories present by DS. It is called "War Memorial Stadium" not
accidentally, but as part of the metaphor. As George Carlin would
say, baseball players wear caps, football wears helmets. Football is played in
War Memorial Stadium, baseball is played in a park. In football you throw bombs,
and blitz. In baseball you just want to go home.Football is a great
sport. Keep diluting it and you'll end up with soccer.Austin
Collie's injuries could not have been avoided with different rules unless they
go to flag football. It was unfortunate, but, rare. More kids are injured in
girls gymnastics, soccer, and wrestling than in football in high school.Good grief people, stop feminizing men's sports. It's bad enough to see
the non-stop onslaught of the feminisation of men in America. We're becoming way
too British. I wrestled British kids while living in England and they were a
sure win for me. Put a West Point on one and he'd "yield". Stop
protecting your kids so much.
I recall a lawsuit from an Eagles fan (perhaps 2001). Winter storm shut down the
stadium, the grounds crew called out to volunteers to shovel out the stands. If
you come help, you can stay for the game sort of thing. Guy spends all night
shoveling snow, loses his hands to frostbite.Fond memories of those
guys Stevenson, Morris, Tait. Great group of guys, great footbal team. Wonder if
I can still find my Morris freight train whistle....
Derik Stevenson is my hero! Let's bring back the battle!
"Let's go all the way!"
I will never understand why some people think that trying to reduce or eliminate
injuries in sports is reducing the value of the sport or somehow making it not
entertaining. I think we should constantly be trying to protect participants as
much as possible. As far as postponing a game because of a blizzard that could
possibly have caused some injuries or even deaths I think whoever made this
decision should be applauded. The dinosaurs who think that the game is being
reduced to something inferior to what it once was need to pick up their swords
and have at each other.
By the way, how did Derik's career among the "sissies" go?
Battlefield? Amen to being sick of that, I don't care how long it's been going
on.And there is nothing weak about a player thinking about his
career and his future... it is, afterall, just a game. Long sleeves help your
muscles stay warm, especially if you've been on the sideline for awhile.Lastly, the news said there was a 100+ car accident due to the storm
that delayed the game... but who cares about their safety, I'm sure all the fans
would be fine. They were probably wearing sleaves...
Truth..... and you are what? You played? You could take these guys on I
If my father were still alive and had Derik's attitude, he'd turn around and
call Derik a sissy. I'll bet Derik wore a fiberglass helmet with a face mask.
He most likely had sturdy shoulder pads too.Well Derik, my father
told me stories of playing football in a LEATHER helmet WITHOUT a face mask. He
personally didn't loose any teeth but told of several friends who did. He was
tough. Then again, he also told of his WW II stories getting is wrist shattered
by a bullet and his thigh ripped apart by shrapnel. That's tough.Football is certainly transitioning from a game that emphasized toughness,
grit, and a certain amount of just plain meanness to a game requiring more
skill, intellect, and talent. While I admire toughness (both physical and
mental), overall I prefer seeing talent and skill. Toughness isn't
the only badge of honor from the game of football. Intellect, speed, talent,
etc. are also worthy badges.If you prefer the old days, perhaps your
sport today is MMA or UFC. Certainly those sports appeal to the base-nature of
man ... for better or worse!
Congrats to the DN for finding the area's youngest old man, doing what old men
always do - insisting that he and his peers were tougher, meaner and better at
everything than those who followed. I think I've heard this all before.
I agree with Stevenson....and based on the comments of the saturday morning QB's
who never played Football in their entire lives here on D-News?....the is a
valid concern that football today is not only played by pansies...its watched by
them as well!
We have to be careful with our analogies I suppose. I remember the Bear Bryant
movie when he was at Texas A and M when he was talking to a father about how
football was "war" out there. The father corrected him instantly
saying something to the effect, "no sir, I was I was in a war and football
isn't war." Even one of the greatest college coaches ever took a step back
to analyze what exactly he was doing in the coaching of his players.I do actually think there is a middle point between what Stevenson is saying
versus what is happening in sports and to a certain extent in our society. We
are probably too soft and protective in many ways. Again, he is expressing a
point of view and causing some discussion. Good for him.I do
disagree with the governor of PA (and Stevenson) because the main point of
postponing the game is the safety of the fans. The players would have been
fine, they probably have played in colder conditions. But thousands of fans
driving in blizzard conditions is not a good thing and the NFL made the proper
TheHailstorm | 7:51 a.m. Dec. 28, 2010 South Weber, UT Andrew Rich
had no problem with " leading with his eyes ". Seems 'ol helmet to
helmet , horse collar Rich is still playing the Stevenson brand of football. ===Geez, neither the refs or television cameras can back up your
cheap statement.Rich is a stud. Maybe you could read
some of HIS comments, and learn a little class and dignity, instead of the
constant jealous whining that you post.
So, with all respect, Derik really was not a 'stand-out' for the team as an LB.
5 sacks in 3 years (none in '95 since he was probably on the bench before his
mission to England)?Stevenson, Derik LB, 1995-98#54 6-4, 240, Diamond Bar, CA DEFENSE UT AT Tot. TFL Sack
Int. 1996 9 4 13 1 0 0 1997 16 8 24
.5 0 0 1998 29 20 49 14 5 0 Career 54 32
86 15.5 5 0 Kick Returns No. Yds. Lng. TD 1996 1 0 0 0 The teams most productive year (while he was
at BYU) was his first year where he was most likely a back-up (14-1; Cotton Bowl
win). His most productive year was 1998 when the cougars were 9-5 and lost in
the Liberty Bowl 41-27 to Tulane.You gotta be a part of the
"field of battle" to comment on it. Easy to do when you are looking
from a chair. Happy New Year.
It's interesting to me that in the photo that accompanies this article, Derik
Stevenson is shown making a tackle with his chest and shoulder, while his head
is off to the side. This is the way I was taught to tackle, and the way my sons
were taught as well. Nobody I know was ever taught to lead with their head.Sorry, but in my mind the best football players have always been the
ones who did their job, made the tackle, and went back to the huddle, not the
flashy ones who made spectacular hits and then stood gloating over their
victims. There is nothing tough about intentionally trying to injure someone,
whether in football or anywhere else. Arrogant showboating should never be
confused with manliness.One more thing. Say what you want about
players staying down after big hits. I would take Austin Collie's toughness over
Derik Stevenson's any day of the week. The Deseret News does fans and young
football players a huge disservice by glorifying Stevenson's attitudes.
"If they refused, they usually got punched in the mouth. They have other
sports for guys like that."Ok, so this guy to swings at fellow
players. That explains somethings.And with anything consider the
source. While Derik may have had a successful college career, his experience
playing at the NFL level is nill to none. He is not a good spokesman for what
NFL players go through. How many downs did he play?The game is
evolving. It is moving away from people who are just big, strong and mean, to
people with brains. The game has become much more technical than the smash
mouth run up the middle days of past. And frankly, if you can't bring a man
down by driving through him at his core instead of trying to make head to head
hits, well then you are probably not as good of a player as you think you
are.I would love to see Derik play against today's wimpy players. I
would love to see his comments backed up. Evidently his style didn't work in
the past, and I doubt it would today.
Football hurts kids and leads them into situations where they harm their
long-term health to please adults who have something to prove through them.I think it is taking advantage of innocent children to lead them into
football. Children who can't make an informed decision and who do things that
harm their health for their entire lives.Especially when you see
that these are young boys who naturally want to please the men (coaches, dads)
more than anything. So sad. Nothing is worth a person's lifelong health and
ability to lead a healthy, full life. But kids are tricked into it every year.
I'm a nurse - no good Dr. or health professional lets their kid play
football. Not if they love them and want what's best for them. Get a clue
Yes, football is played in the snow. But, the Eagles/Vikings game was postponed
due to a BLIZZARD which dumped 30 inches of snow on Philadelphia. The last thing
the road crews needed was a bunch of idiots blocking the roads with their
disabled cars coming from a game. Yes, it's a GAME. Not brain surgery. There was
no public transportation due to the blizzard. The NFL made the right call and it
has nothing to do with being tough or being able to play in bad conditions.
I remember Derik. He was tough and can back up what he is saying. I'm a Ute as
well, but I can respect someone who plays with a lot of pride and toughness and
that was definitely him. He wasn't scared to run full speed and hit someone.And just for those of you arm chair guys who don't know about it... It
is a hard thing to do. When you play with serious toughness then a lot of people
are gunning for you to see if you will break. You have to back it up constantly
even when you are tired and hurt. Most football players can't do it.Being tough is relative. We do need tough guys, but very few kickers were
ever tough and they don't need to be socked in the mouth. We don't need
bullies. Also, I'm looking forward to the game tonight. I think
that was a good call. We don't need to live life with a chip on our shoulder
trying to prove how tough we are every second of the day.Common
sense is fine too.
Oh, Derik, nice job of protecting your family. I'd do the same thing, except I
would have brought the punk onto the field and "crushed them like a
grape." Peace out my brothers...except for those who take offense to my
comments. I've gained a greater appreciation for BYU football thanks to
Um, Derik?? One too many blows to the head?Here's a guy we are
praising for going into the stands to get into a fight with fans?
My cousin lives in New Jersey and works in Philephia were they cancelled the
game. he said they cancelled it for 5 inches of snow!!! 5 inches. Not the
blizzard they make it out to be. He was so happy for his after christmas
shopping because these whimps wouldnt go out for 5 inches, no one else in the
stores. Just another example of America becoming a bunch of sissy's Right on
with the article. Owe and before you saying anything we are both veterans and
could care less about the battle field references.
If football players were really tough, then they would change the substitution
rules to be more similar to soccer. Once substituted, you cannot return to the
game. Also limit the number of substitutions a team can make - soccer only
allows 3 in competitive games - let's change football so the teams are only
allowed a few substitutions. It would force guys to play offense, defense, and
special teams. Now that would be tough.
Does anyone even remember Derik Stevenson? He should probably have made a name
for himself on the field before he rips on the players of today.Now
get back to work and sell me a new cell phone.
Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these... no wait thats
the mailman. Sad day.
@helpisontheway:I suppose your type yearns for the day when they
remove face guards off of football helmets. Like in the "olden days".
You know, when men were men. Right? Oh, wait.
Stevenson's comments are right on target for today's "boys" between
the ages of 18-30. I believe that what Stevenson's is trying to communicate
goes well beyond the football field. For instance, that age of "boys"
has the lowest percentage of college age males since the 50's. I believe that
the boys of this age group (not all of course) were babied too much and were
made soft. I was always told that a man does not show his weakness to anyone.
I'm sure someone will comment on some psychological problems this causes, but
seriously, look at the difference between the "Greatest Generation"
MEN and WOMEN versus the generation of boys I mentioned earlier. Cut this up
however you'd like, but Stevenson's point is right on and extends well beyond
football. As for the comment of bigger, stronger faster, yes, it is all
relative. Those hitting and being hit are bigger, stronger and faster and
arguably should be able to take a hit as they did with Stevenson. Cut my
comment up however you'd like :)
As for society becoming wimpier, you should ask my wife's Grandpa who survived
Iwa Jima, The Great Depression, and 60 years of manual labor.He
can't watch the news or listen to politics for a day without "sissy"
coming out of his mouth.
Why are there more head injuries?1. We diagnose concussions more
often with a larger scale from slight to severe. What is considered a slight
concussion today was not on the scale ten years ago.2. Performance
enhancing drugs help athletes be bigger, stronger, faster.3. NFL
execs are back peddaling in an effort to curb the trend. Most NFL players
disagree and want to play violent football...the way it has always been
played.The game was much more brutal (with arguably tougher guys on
the average) ten, twenty, thirty years ago. I personally love the Brian
Urlachers of today and miss the Ronnie Lotts and Jack Hams of yesterday.
>> Do people know that every player gets hurt every game? They will have
to outlaw the entire sport when word of that fact gets out.Sounds
like a good idea to me...
Everyone is pointing out that players are stronger, faster and hit harder these
days...but no one has mentioned that the improvements in the safety technology
that goes into the helmets and pads have outpaced the "improvements"
in the players. Not to mention the improvements in sports medicine and the
knowledge/expertise of the trainers/doctors/surgeons. Ask the old players from
the 60s and 70s if the game is safer now. Many retired NFLers these days live
like kings. The unfortunate former players with nagging injuries understood all
of the risks......and they did it anyway...and most don't regret it for a
My father fought on Iwo Jima and played football in high school and in the
Marines in the day of leather helmets. They used to have competitions to see
who could split more helmets during a season. He was shot up on Iwo by a
Japanese 7.7mm Type 99-1 with shells that ripped through his neck chest and lung
and exited out his back. Was he tough! Well he lived and raised 7 children and
coached their WFFL football teams. He knew the difference between a field of
battle and and a football game. He was also a gentle, loving father
who never failed to express his love to his children (or for his players for
that matter). What we learned in terms of character was life altering. We were
told that we could use any words that we heard him speak; therefore we did not
cuss. My father died almost 15 years ago, but I think that I could
safely say that he would want to wear a the most modern of helmets rather than
revert to leather. But, I am also sure that if he played today, he would still
try to split a few!
BYU players are just darned tough! I remember playing high school football
against South Summit and they cleared a foot of snow off the field before the
game. There were no thermals worn. It is important to be tough. Head
injuries, however, are nothing to trifle with.
Its pathetic to read the comments on hear and see what a big bunch of softies we
have come. It is no longer we are getting our butts kicked on the world stage.
We are a nation of sissies, being led by a sissy.You can't take care of
your own, if you can't take care of yourself. We need quite a bit more
toughness in our society.
As far as Derik Stevenson's inquiry to Dick H, "What is happening to my
sport?" Could it be as simple as karma for all the rules to ensure the game
favors the offense. I'm all for player safety but lets be honest;
players are bigger, faster, & stronger than yrs ago.What gets me
is; the league comes out w/ some rhetoric about player safety and in the next
breath mentions wanting an 18 game regular season.When I heard saw
the title, I thought of Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell's recent comments about
postponing the Eagles/Minny game. Honestly, Gov. Ed is 100% spot on in his
I would rather be a sissy with all my mental faculties than some neanderthal
banging his chest over all well he can take a hit to the head. Too bad my tax
dollars (medicare) will help take care of him while he someday withers away in
dementia. This is the most irresponsible column I have ever read in the DesNews.
The reason football is so popular is that it is ritualized warfare, competition.
There are different levels of reality in the ritual warfare from football to
soccer to chess to ballet. Stevenson chooses to participate in high level
ritual, good for him. Those who don't like it, attend the Nutcracker and enjoy
the toy soldiers indoors.
Great article, you can tell by the above comments how week our society has
become. These are the same liberals that couldn't handle their child receiving
any discipline in school, but cry about how dangerous our schools have become.
They are the same type of parents that are against any type of competition
because it may hurt someone feelings when they loose. They give kids trophies
for participating in Y ball rather than winning and excelling. Competition at
any level since the time of the Romans has been compared to the battle field.
Ronnie Lott, Rob Morris, Ray Lewis where all good examples of the football
You are kidding right. Lets all drive to the game in blizzard conditions and
freeze our butts off just to prove how macho we are. I attended a USU BYU game
is a snowstorm. Left at halftime and glad I did. Sitting there with a blanket
and a foot of snow on my lap was not my idea of fun. This guy takes sports way
to seriously. Why don't we bring brain damaged Jim McMahon into the discussion.
You know the guy who walks into a room and can't remember why he is there. The
good old days never were good old days and never will be. This guy sounds like
he never outgrew being a high school bully.
I wonder why there wasn't any mention of the incident in Ephraim. Instead Harmon
brings up an incident at Rice Stadium.
Nice interesting article. But back in my day kids we not as big, strong, or as
fast. Lifting is something you did--pretty much on you own during the summer
time. Now kids are bigger, much bigger. They lift all year long under guidance
of a trainer. Take supplements to build muscle mass, and weigh more than they
ever did when I played...hit a lot harder too.I've never loved
football and BYU's version of it more than I do now.All that said,
my son in law is a neurosurgeon who loves Cougar football like myself (a
pre-requisite before dating any of my daughters). He's seen the long term
affects of concussion countless times. End result is YES he loves football as
much as ever, but NO he won't let his kids play football. Even at the high
school level.Hard to argue with him, he's the expert....but I'm
still looking forward to next fall's opener in Mississippi. I guess I'm just
glad my son won't be on the field. Perhaps that makes me something of a
Field of Battle?Football should never be likened to the sacrifice,
pain, suffering and terror of ACTUAL WAR. This guy has no credibility.
Sounds like an ex-jock just a little bit too full of himself.There
are plenty of former NFL players who are struggling physically and financially
due to the beating their bodies have suffered.I love football but
the caveman attitude is a bit much.
Field of battle??? My grandfather never played football, but he fought the
Japanese army during World War II - hand to hand combat - the real kind of
battle where real men died and real men lived with emotional scars for the rest
of their. I'm so tired of football players compare their sport to battle.I'm a BYU fan, but I just lost some respect for this guy.
He sounds like the instructor of the bullies that pick on Daniel in the Karate
Seems to me there is plenty of "violence" now the way the rules are
set to "protect" the quarterback. There is no need to allow intense
cheap-shots that would serve only to disable someone. That style of playing does
not enhance the game. I would like to hear Vai's perspective on
Ok folks chill with the literal battlefield comparisons. Anyone with common
sense can see a metaphor. Stevenson was talking football only. Get a life, stop
looking so hard to be offended.
I just picture this guy on a jr. high field trying to push everyone around to
prove how tough he is.
Meant to say average mortality (death age) of football players...
The size and speed of the game are far different than the good old days. In my
mind, the sport is being ruined by the money and the increased violence.
Andrew Rich had no problem with " leading with his eyes ". Seems 'ol
helmet to helmet , horse collar Rich is still playing the Stevenson brand of
Well, it's time to ban Football. It is high time for BYu to follow BYU-Idaho,
and end this sport that only enriches Orthopedists.
Try playing rugby............
Well said, Xpat. Maybe medical science has progressed to the point that we'd
like to see our sons and brothers live a happier and longer life. Didn't the
article recently on overweight football players say that the average age of
football players today is 55 or so? Is someone doing a study on that also? Maybe
Derik would like us to go back to leaches to cure our medical problems.
I guess Austin Collie being concussed three times this year is because of the
Under Armor he wears. ??? To Derik Stevenson - the game today is bigger, strong,
faster than when you played. And it most certainly is not a battle field it is
a football 'game.'
"field of battle" Brother Stevenson. My friend in Afghanistan would
beg to differ. And you probably think he is a sissy. Stick to coaching little
league reveling to your boys about how you played in two feet snow and the field
was uphill both ways!
Wouldn't you just love to be this guy's son/daughter/wife/dog? I love watching
football because it is a great spot with great skill required. The brutality
which ends players' careers (Austin Collie comes to mind) is not what I value.
Call me a sissy if you like, but I don't care if my favorite players where long
sleeve shirts and I would rather see my favorites play the game for years
protected from dangerous hits than see the jaw dropping hits that make up the
Yeah, how dare the NFL look out for the safety of its players and fans! Are you
kidding me, this author should be fired! As we learn more about concussions and
how to diagnose them, they get diagnosed more, and based on how many former
players have brain injuries and nervous system problems now I think that's a
good thing! And for the snow, I'm sorry, but 80-90,000 people driving to and
from a stadium in blizzard conditions is a terrible idea. That's asking for
accidents and possibly fatalities. Perhaps Derek Stevenson didn't get out soon
enough because it sounds like both him and this author may have suffered one too
"...field of battle..." You've got to be joking, right?! Football is
entertainment, a slightly more complex form of monster trucks.
Refreshing perspective! I applaud you for expressing yourself. I too still
suffer from football injuries to my knees, but they sort of feel like medals.
Glad to see you stepped outside of a social engineered point-of-view. Right or
wrong I'm glad you expressed yourself.