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Published: Monday, Dec. 27 2010 12:00 a.m. MST

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SLars
Provo, UT

The real dream act was not for high school students, but adults age 18-30(35 on some versions). All had chances to return to their country and make it right between 18-18.5 years of age. All chose to violate the law like their parents.

I see La Raza as Dorothy. The Wizard had to be Obama and the Democrats, they knew they did not have the power.

Nobody took away their dream of schooling, it's still there. Their dream of amnesty however was their dream, not America's. The Dream act was an open ended program that would of encouraged illegal immigration for years, not to mention stopping deportation of children 12-18 and their families. (not included in the 2 million number)

If your talking about Hispanic's, their culture is here and in their country of birth.

I watched a movie with my children also, it was called "V".

John C. C.
Payson, UT

Those who oppose the Dream Act probably could agree with all of its advantages except one. They would say it rewards those who benefited from illegal behavior. Let's take away that argument from future generations by significantly enlarging visa quotas. Who are we to make being a US resident a crime?

As we discover that more people equals more good, we may learn to become more amicable towards "others."

Sal
Provo, UT

John, the Dream Act contained a provision for funding Obamacare to the tune of 90 billion dollars. Are you really in favor of rushing bills through without thorough debate and transparency? This is the way of the Democrat majority: pass the bills before anyone can really know what is in them. Let's try again to help children of immigrants have an education; but let's do it right. Let's also secure our borders at the same time.

SLars
Provo, UT

Being a US resident is not a crime. They do not have legal residency.

Visas are based on unemployment. Quotas are set to protect American jobs, not to stop people from breaking laws.

Do you think China and India think more people more good? If so, why do they restrict the number of children people can have?

Christy
Beaverton, OR

This isn't China or India. This is AMERICA. Home of the free, land of opportunity.

It saddens me that the hard-line minority in the Senate (and a few weak-willed Dems) were able to kill the DREAM act. But I have faith that President Obama, along with forward thinking progressives in Washington, will not give up on this humane and common sense bill.

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

Sorry, there can't be ANY REWARD for illegal behavior in our country.

We Americans are not going to give in no matter how much illegal trespassers march up and down the streets, carrying signs and shouting slogans.

Go back to your homeland and apply to come in the "front door", or just get used to NEVER having citizenship. Its your choice! NO ONE in these United States is to blame for your parents' poor choices!

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Sorry, Mr. Florez, the Dream Act was a bad deal for the integrity of the American dream. You know, the one where hard work, and always obeying the law are rewarded, but committing criminal acts are never rewarded, only punished.

"Dream Act" was nothing but amnesty dressed up to make it looks like something it was not.

Legal immigrants are a welcome asset to our country, but illegals are not welcome!

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Facts first:

The DREAM Act would give beneficiaries access to greater educational opportunities and better jobs, which in turn means more taxable income: A 2010 study by the UCLA North American Integration and Development Center estimates that the total earnings of DREAM Act beneficiaries over the course of their working lives would be between $1.4 trillion and $3.6 trillion.

The DREAM Act would allow legalized immigrants to invest in the U.S. economy.

The DREAM Act would save taxpayers money: According to the (CBO), the House version of the DREAM Act (H.R. 6497) "would reduce deficits by about $2.2 billion over the 2011-2020 period."

The DREAM Act would likely reduce the drop-out rate for immigrant students.

The DREAM Act keeps talented students in the United States.

Finally, The DREAM Act was first introduced in 2001 by Senators Orrin Hatch (R-UT) and Richard Durbin (D-IL) in the Senate, and by Representatives Howard Berman (D-CA) and Chris Cannon (R-UT) in the House.

CJ
Murray, UT

No Toto,, you aren't in Mexico anymore, this is the United States and we have laws and when you break them you can follow the yellow brick road back home and quit demanding that we reward you and your children.

CalCooli
Draper, UT

Please don't treat the readers like they are 5 years old. They don't need politics reduced to a cute little fairytale.

Chad S
Derby, KS

This bill was about the same thing all amnesty bills are about: creating more Democrat voters who are dependent on Democrat sponsored entitlement programs, university tuition assistance programs included.

I am sorry that illegal parents brought innocent children into their messy problem. Amnesty is not the answer.

SLars
Provo, UT

Truthseeker | "The DREAM Act would save taxpayers money: According to the (CBO), the House version of the DREAM Act (H.R. 6497) "would reduce deficits by about $2.2 billion over the 2011-2020 period.""

You left out the last part. The congressional budget office estimates that after the ten year period, it would cost us $5-20 billion per year in social services they would not be eligible for.

Also, with 2 million eligible at $6,000 per student in federal funds, it would cost us 12 billion each year.

Invisible Hand
Provo, UT

The dream act has its problems. It's not a perfect piece of legislation. But what does the anti-immigrant crowd propose to do about these kids? Are they to be punished for the "sins" of their parents? Do you seriously think they should leave the only country they have known and try to make a life alone in a country foreign to them where they may not even speak the language? If you have a better solution than the dream act, please let us know.

Brian the engineer
Columbus, OH

As one who believes in Conservative values, I'm saddened that the Dream act was killed. Although some of the details of the bill weren't perfect (and likely never will be), it did attempt to fix real problems in a beneficial and productive way. Instead, we still have just as many problems and just as few solutions.

ouisc
Farmington, UT

It's great that Mr. Florez had such a good time watching a movie with his kids. It's great it was so fun that he drew an analogy to illegal immigration. Whats not so great is that he is just another Hispanic leader who is only looking at the issue through his own eyes.

My expectation is that Hispanic leaders would NOT encourage people to come to the U.S. illegally. My expectation is that Hispanic leaders would actually CONDEMN illegal activities among their followers. Instead, the illegal recruitment of Hispanics continue.

It is unfortunate that illegal immigrants use their children as pawns. The U.S. allows more immigrants than another other country, and legal immigration to the U.S. is easier than most other countries. Please don't exascerbate the problem!

ljeppson
Salt Lake City, UT

Well John, here's the problem. The supporters of the Dream Act, including youreself, didn't sweeten the pot for domestic students, i.e. students who are already citizens. For example, students are graduating from college with career destroying debt. Give them some relief as part of this package and it would have a chance at passage. The Dream Act as presented was narrow identity group politics. I think it should pass on its own merits, but realistic politically it just wasn't.

anti-liar
Salt Lake City, UT

Dream act was affirmative action for illegals. It was wrong.

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