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Dick Harmon: Ty Detmer's name draws great interest as addition to Cougars' coaching staff

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  • Cart Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 23, 2015 11:57 a.m.

    Would love to see Detmer as the new OC (now in 2015). This article is more relevant than ever now that Sitake is the HC. There is a wealth of knowledge Detmer could bring to the job, not to mention his recruiting abilities.

    I would love to believe the rumors out there right now that he's coming.

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Dec. 27, 2010 2:04 p.m.

    In my opinion, Ty would be a great QB coach, but he needs more coaching experience before he'll be ready to be the OC. Give him some time to get used to coaching at the collegiate level before piling that kind of pressure on him.

    I think Doman would make a great OC. He has a similar drive and mindset to Bronco, and he knows how to coach, but maybe even more important, he's a very good recruiter.

    We wouldn't be seeing anymore two-quarterback systems or BYU sitting on the ball at the 20 when there was still plenty of time to get a touchdown or at least get within chipshot FG range.

  • haunyocker Springville, UT
    Dec. 27, 2010 1:16 p.m.

    Dick, A marvelous,insightful piece about Ty. He would be the "Hope" diamond of coaches and a welcome addition to the BYU staff. I don't know much about football, but as a person, as you describe, he certainly would be an island of stability that seems needed in BYU's football program right now. Seems to me that his presences would help lighten Bronco's load. Glad I only had to fight chainsaws in my work instead of BYU football fans and Ute complainers (who seem to be one and the same today)

    Keep up the good work.

  • cougardukie Littleton, CO
    Dec. 27, 2010 12:56 p.m.

    I met Chad Lewis at the New Mexico Bowl. He said that he only accepted the position in the Athletic Department on the condition that they let him work with the tight ends. So in effect he will be on the coaching staff as well. I would love to see Detmer on staff as well. Maybe as co-offensive coordinator with Doman? It worked at USC with Sarkisian and Kiffin.

  • Sloppy J St. Louis, MO
    Dec. 27, 2010 6:56 a.m.

    I always chuckle when fans trot out their wish list for the Cougs' coaching staff and it includes nothing but former players. How much evidence do we need that big-time playing talent does not necessarily correlate into big-time coaching talent?

    Someone suggested Harvey Unga? Umm . . isn't he still planning on playing in the NFL? What am I missing? He'd be in the 2011 draft if he hadn't have his little honor code issue. And Luke Staley? Really? Based on what? Great RB, but we know zip about his desire or ability to coach.

    Bronco's not a genius, but he's not an idiot either. He'll find the right combination to give his boys the best chance at success. If they include brand names like Detmer, great, if they don't, just win, baby.

  • iNKSpot Wilsonville, OR
    Dec. 27, 2010 6:50 a.m.

    I have always thought Ty Detmer would wind up coaching. He's a natural and probably one of the few Heisman Trophy winners humble enough to work with youth. I'd love to see him in Provo.

  • Osgrath Provo, UT
    Dec. 26, 2010 10:26 p.m.

    As I read Dick's article, felt some pleasure that at least someone was addressing the 900 pound gorilla in the room: does Ty even want to come to coach at BYU. People have been writing about it for years as though it were a church calling that one would be hard pressed to refuse.

    Unfortunately this point sailed well over the heads of many of those commenting here, most particularly Optimist, who seems to have advanced optimism to delusional. Here we have the assumption that a wide variety of people, ranging from Chad Lewis to Harvey Unga (what, no Andy Reid?) not only want to coach but are coach material. We have to start with the fact that Harvey Unga is still on the Chicago Bear roster.

    Yes, I would love to have Detmer in Provo as much as anyone. As opposed to all the other wish-list names, he has proven himself - his whole NFL career was as an assistant quarterback coach - ask Bret Favre.

  • fender Washington, UT
    Dec. 26, 2010 9:36 p.m.

    Doman appears to be a good QB coach, and I have no doubt Detmer would make a good one, but BYU makes a serious mistake by elevating Doman to OC or bringing in Detmer to run its offense. It would be better off sticking with Anae than doing that.

    A sucessful offense involves more than just throwing the football. A consistent winning offensive scheme at the D1 level is built on running the football, and that involves understanding fronts and offensive line play. Coaches who have a firm grasp on all aspects of offensive football are relatively few in number and are guys most fans have never heard of.

    Bringing in a former star QB and big name may sound like a good idea, but it's not much different than assuming that because somebody was a great driver he will naturally be able to design, build and repair a Formula One race car.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Dec. 26, 2010 9:33 p.m.

    Ty Detmer won the Heismen Trophy and should become a QB Coach which he will bring another one to Jake Heaps - which make sense!

  • Coug Pleasant Grove, UT
    Dec. 26, 2010 9:17 p.m.

    I will always make time for Harmon-written articles.

    Like a great chef, he knows how to provide nourishing meals for a hungry cougar nation, and at the same time, annoy the haters. What a combo meal.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Dec. 26, 2010 8:08 p.m.

    He sounds pretty happy. And why give up such happiness?

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    Dec. 26, 2010 7:43 p.m.

    Agreed 110% that Detmer is brilliant and savy. However, after reading this article, in which it was pointed out how much Ty cherishes his 'alone time' and just how little of it he'd get if he became Division 1A college coach (or whatever we call it nowdays), I doubt Ty will come.

    Plus, he's just one season into his Texas high school coach commitment. I heard they lost every single game this year. I doubt he'll walk away from that just yet because I suspect he believes he owes the players, the school and their community community a program better than 0-and-a whopping lot.

    Don't get me wrong; it would be awesome to have him but I doubt he'll come.

  • Winglish Lehi, UT
    Dec. 26, 2010 7:16 p.m.

    One need only look at the list of QB's that Detmer helped mentor to know what kind of quarterbacks coach he would be:
    Steve Young
    Brett Favre
    Michael Vick
    Matt Schaub

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Dec. 26, 2010 6:23 p.m.

    1) Detmer is awesome
    2) Good article in general
    3) I'm not sure Miami wasn't the same after that game. I think probably losing Jimmy Johnson to the Cowboys had a lot more to do with any luster lost. But also don't forget that the Canes won a National Title about 10 years after this game and played for another the year after. They were far from done as a national power.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Dec. 26, 2010 6:13 p.m.

    The skills to be a great player are different than the skills to be a great coach. Unga was the best RB in BYU history, but no way you'll see him as a coach at BYU. Young won't leave his great gig for the stresses of coaching.

    Also, there is no way BYU will demote Bronco to DC. But they will bring in coaches who completely own the offensive side of the ball. The OC will be elevated above its current status so Bronco will have the time he needs to focus on the defense.

    Detmer would be a great addition. Hopefully he knows the fish are bigger in Utah and there are more acres to hunt deer.

    I can only imagine how frustrated Bronco and Jake were when Anae called three running plays to end the Utah game. We struggled to run against them all game. We were passing against them with relative ease. This had to be the "straw that broke the camels back." Hopefully Anae lands on his feet.

  • Mountainman56 Alpine, UT
    Dec. 26, 2010 6:05 p.m.

    There's no question that Ty knows football and would be a great addition to the coaching staff. However, he has little to no significant coaching experience and he will not be brought in as O.C. The same thing is true of Steve Young who would never give up his cushy ESPN gig anyway. Doman on the other hand, has paid his dues and proven his coaching abilities. He is definitely a leading candidate for the O.C. position and the only way he doesn't get it is if Bronco brings in someone with more experience and that doesn't mean Crowton or Chow as some have suggested. Meanwhile Ty could be a great qb coach and working together with Doman, they would make a great team.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Dec. 26, 2010 6:00 p.m.

    optimist,

    I do agree with one of your
    thoughts.

    Bronko is NOT a Div 1. head coach. I think he'd be a great student councillor

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    Dec. 26, 2010 5:46 p.m.

    I think Ty would look best in Under Armor

  • wardu Fallon, NV
    Dec. 26, 2010 5:16 p.m.

    Chad Lewis already has a job with the BYU athletic dept. Something to do with fund raising, like an assist AD. As a great people person, that is likely where he wants to be. I could see him running for political office someday.

  • Duckhunter American Fork, UT
    Dec. 26, 2010 3:34 p.m.

    While I agree Detmer might turn into a good hire as an offensive coach all the calmoring for guys like Steve Young, Chad Lewis, Curtis Brown, Luke Staley, etc. is not well thought out.

    None of those guys is a coach of any sort and what leads anyone to believe they would be any good at it? Just because they were a good player doesn't mean they would be a good coach. Look at Brian Johnson at utah. He was a decent college player but does anyone think the utes qb's got better this year? Isn't that the job of the QB coach to improve the qb's? In my opinion that was a disastrous hire for utah so let's not make the same sort of stupid mistake at BYU just because we have a fondness for a particular ex-player.

    Make sure they can coach 1st, that should be the only criteria. I really couldn't care less about a name. But I really don't care about anything but winning anyway. That is my only priority.

  • --JEFFE-- Cedar City, UT
    Dec. 26, 2010 3:07 p.m.

    Detmer would be the best thing to ever happen to BYU football. He would be an incredible Offensive force! No he is not a proven OC, but lets look at the facts.

    The guy played 14 years in the NFL. though he did not do anything monumental. Coaches would hold onto him because he was a genius in offensive schemes and reading defenses. He was basically an assistant OC at many of the teams he played on.

    And lets face it. Anything would be better than Anae. He was an O-line coach for crying out loud! His play calling is ridiculous. He does not read defenses and is not knowledgable in calling a successful offense.

    Here is what I would like to see...
    Bronoco will and should remain head coach.
    Bring Detmer in as the OC
    Bring Luke Staley or Curtis Brown to coach RB's
    Bring Chad Lewis to Coach WR's and TE's
    Keep Anae or Reynolds to coach the line.
    Keep Doman as QB Coach

    Bronco is a great Defensive Coordinator

    I think this group could do great things in Provo!

  • stokethefire The Planet, Earth
    Dec. 26, 2010 2:26 p.m.

    Detmer, Young, and Doman are three of my all-time favorite QBs to ever play the game. Even though Detmer did not have great success in the NFL, it is a fact he was a great teammate and student of the game. I am sure Doman would defer to Detmer's wisdom and experience and between the two of them the offense could strike fear in the hearts of opposing DC's trying to figure out how to defend them. They would get the most out of the talent they have available to them.

    Go Cougars.

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    Dec. 26, 2010 1:20 p.m.

    Ok folks, let's be realistic here! Ty is a great guy but let's not forget he has never been an OC nor had any kind of meaningful coaching experiences before. Name recognition alone does not transmit into being a great, let alone successful coach. He still will have to prove himself and only time will tell if he's got it or not. Having said that, I would love to see him join the Cougar program if a coaching opportunity is offered. If nothing else, he would be a great help in the recruiting department just by mean of his name recognition only. Go Cougs!!!

  • Idaho Coug Meridian, Idaho
    Dec. 26, 2010 12:58 p.m.

    I would love to see Ty at BYU too. I do think he would come in as OC not QB coach. He knows offenses way too well not to completely put him in charge of the offense. And Doman is doing a great job right where he is. Doman deserves a pay raise but I would love to see him continue to mentor Heaps as his QB coach the next few years.

    I would assume the question for Ty would come down to giving up a life that seems like paradise for a husband and father. Maybe after his kids gaduate?

    Also, anyone even mentioning Steve Young is nuts. He makes millions working for ESPN a few days a week. He would be nuts to give that up and we would be nuts to assume he would.

  • Chickenchaser Centralia, WA
    Dec. 26, 2010 10:11 a.m.

    Few within or without the spiritual confines of Mormonism possess Ty's humility. I wish him well in Texas or Utah.

  • nothegame Saratoga Springs, UT
    Dec. 26, 2010 10:01 a.m.

    Does it matter who bYu gets. You cougar fans will just run him off like so many other OC.

  • Big Hapa Kaysville, UT
    Dec. 26, 2010 9:50 a.m.

    Yes if Ty does come to Utah he will be the OC not the #2 guy. Doman should remain the QB coach and Ty hands down without exception named the OC if not even take Bronco's spot ! Oh yes did I say the unspeakable !

    That is why Ty Detmer will not be on the staff at BYU because he out shines any of the current football coaching staff members.

    "POLY" Cougar Nation

  • optimist Sun City, CA
    Dec. 26, 2010 9:33 a.m.

    Place them where you will. Call it there mission, or contribution, or what ever you want to call it, but do call them:

    Ty Detmer: HC or QB Coach or OC
    Steve Young: HC or QB Coach or OC

    Bronco Mendahal: DC

    Chad Lewis: TE Coach
    Ben Cahoon: WR Coach
    Harvy Unga: RB Coach

    Brandon Doman: Use him somewhere/anywhere

    Let all other coaches and assistant coaches be determined by the committee above

  • Invisible Hand Provo, UT
    Dec. 26, 2010 9:31 a.m.

    I don't know him, but if Detmer is really devoid of ego as he is portrayed, then QB coach is ideal for him. He could be the celebrity recruiting closer, wouldn't have to work as hard and the promise of more free time might be more attractive to him than a fancy title.

  • SLCWatch Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 26, 2010 7:58 a.m.

    Don't know if it will happen but if Ty can be lured into coaching it won't be as a quarterback coach under Doman. He knows roughly 100 times more than Doman about offensive philosophy, defensive structures and philosophies, balancing strengths and weaknesses and personel issues. Ty has been around more systems than Doman even knows about. Don't get me wrong, I love Doman and know him. He needs to be retained. But he would be made better learning at the side of Detmer than he would trying to do the OC job alone. You don't want a OC who is constantly asking his QB coach what to do next. It would be better to have a QB coach asking the OC what he wants his QB to do next.

  • Just Me SLC, UT
    Dec. 26, 2010 7:12 a.m.

    I am NOT a Cougar fan, but alas Mr. Harmon you are correct....even Cougar haters love Ty Deter.

    I hope those "competive" juices, however, flow in favor of his wife & kids. 14 years in the NFL...stay in Texas. Your influence on the world is meaningless if it doesn't start at home.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    Dec. 26, 2010 6:18 a.m.

    Well done Harmon. You just described the exact vision of what a good Offensive Coordinator is supposed to encompass and project...something that Anae has never come close to. Had Mendenhall been given the opportunity to have picked his own Offensive Coordinator instead of being forced to keep an administratively hired Anae then he would have reached for someone with vision. Someone who could have come closer to the mark of the quest for perfection. Someone like a Doug Scovil...or a Norm Chow...Possibly even Tye Detmer himself at the time. But here we are 6 seasons later and it's obvious that with all the changes in conference alignments and the dissassembling of the WAC and the MWC, that BYU had reached a time of needed change. This is a completely new era. A time of growth and a new direction for BYU. The thought of "Going Independant" earlier seemed purposterous at first. Something so inconceiveable as to completely raise flags of protest all across the
    Cougar Nation. Now that we are here and have made the switch there seems to have come a new breeze of fresh air out of these Beautiful Wasatch Mountains. BRING IT ON.

  • RaininTime Orem, UT
    Dec. 26, 2010 2:24 a.m.

    Detmer can coach, no doubt about it. Will he come to Provo? I am skeptical, but hopeful.

  • Mountainman56 Alpine, UT
    Dec. 25, 2010 11:39 p.m.

    No question that Cougar Nation would love to have Ty back in the fold as qb coach and working with Brandon Doman as O.C. He may not want to give up the life he has right now but I have to think that the competitive fires still burn in him and that if given the opportunity, he would probably take it. BYU is heading into a whole new world of independence and Ty and other former Cougars who have been mentioned as possible asst. coaches would be great to have on board.