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Published: Tuesday, Dec. 7 2010 10:21 p.m. MST

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My2Cents
Kearns, UT

On this same day and in this same news report there is another crime that police have all but destroyed the lives of innocent victims of police brutality and illegal incarceration. They live in Payson and accused and proven to have murdered their father. At least the police were convinced they did until they got a tip that someone else did it. They didn't go find or look for the real killers, the tip come to them about the real killers.

This only goes to show that you don't cooperate with the police who have millions of dollars to break down alibis and create the wrong evidence. The couple in Payson cooperated with the police and look where it got them, in jail for a murder they didn't commit.

Cooperating with the police just gives them ammunition to discredit and disprove the truth with fabricated lies and public persecution. This is why we have the right not to incriminate or submit to interrogations. Josh is smart to keep quite and let the police do their job, find the truth for a change instead of fabricate lies to destroy the truth and lives of families.

utahmtnman
Park City, UT

Lee,

Sure, the allegation is proposterous, but the media had to cover it, just as you did--to show the absurdity of it. If it were anyone else making the allegations, it would not be worth the paper it is written on, but because the source is "the only person of interest in the case" and his father, it is definately newsworthy.

Shawnm750
Lehi, UT

@My2Cents - It is unfortunate that the police in the Mortensen case made some wrong assumptions, but I think it's worth noting that they pursued the case and the Mortensen's have now been cleared. While they've lost 4 months of their lives in jail, I'm willing to be that they would still have cooperated with police if it meant finding Prof. Mortensen's killers.

Josh Powell is the one person who stands to most help the police find his wife, and give her family some answers. But he's done nothing. If he really does care about Susan, like he claims, he would do everything to help the police regardless of how it makes him look.

Furthermore, the police present evidence. It's up to the prosecution to determine if that evidence points towards a crime, and they file the charges. It's wrong of you to imply that the police have ruined people's lives when they merely act on the evidence available. Yes, sometimes the evidence isn't always clear, but we're not privy to the same information they have, so can we say we'd have acted differently?

Moderate
Salt Lake City, UT

So we don't want theories on how these people might be alive, because that would upset our acceptance that they're dead?

RBN
Salt Lake City, UT

If the allegations weren't so cruel they would be comedic. I did check out the Powell's website. It is clear that Steve Powell is a control freak. It's clear that he is hiding something. The suggestions he makes, for example about employment similarities, are preposterous. Wow! They both worked in downtown Salt Lake City. Bingo! Opportunity to have met and had an affair. Or they both had internet connections so they probably met on Facebook and are now in Brazil.

Leaps in logic appear to be the Powells' forte'.

MrsH
Altamont, UT

Crazy conjecture...Why doesn't he just tell what he knows instead of making up stuff out of thin air?

Sandy
Salt Lake City, UT

Re Moderate: We don't want BAD and UNSUBSTANTIATED theories. Bring forth any that have substance and confirmed credibility. The Powell's move was completely self-serving.

Lee Benson: Thanks for this. It needed to be said.

I also feel for the Payson family, but what happened there doesn't justify the Powells' behavior in any way. Hopefully law enforcement will learn from that case, and not act timidly in the Susan Powell case because of those mistakes. Remember how the Smart family was maligned and accused by the SLTribune and other press, investigated by law enforcement, and suspected by others? They put themselves completely on the line to find their daughter, and suffered for it, but they loved their girl, and it was all about finding her, not protecting themselves.

Do you see any of that in Josh Powell? Not an atom.

BobP
Port Alice, B.C.

My2Cents is right.

In my experience as a criminal lawyer, the ONLY advice I ever gave was: Guilty or innocent do no say anything but your name and address. I repeat say NOTHING.

ouisc
Farmington, UT

The police checked out this suggestion and have found no viable reason to pursue this further.

If Josh and Steve Powell were really concerned, maybe they'd try to reach out to Susan in Brazil? They remind me of O.J. who has spent his lifetime trying to find his wife's killer.

Most Truthful and Patriotic
Layton, UT

I'm not LDS. but even *I* know that Susan and Steven couldn't be married in an LDS Temple in Brazil -- because Susan's still married to her husband.

People need to be detail-oriented, or they'll fall for Nigerian scams and Powell scenarios.

Independent Woman
West Jordan, UT

Just a comment on the Mortensen case. I have heard from people involved in investigations that too often the police get it in their minds who is guilty and refuse to listen to any other possibility. Perhaps that is what they did here. As least they have righted the wrong they did.
As for Susan Powell, Steve is just trying to manipulate everyone (remind you of someone who is currently on trial in SLC?), but his father is either nuts or could be called an accessory after the fact.

ThePinkFloydian
Bountiful, UT

If it were my wife were to disapear I would go crazy. I would be crying like I have never cried before. I would be begging for help and doing much more on my own to find my wife than law enforcement would allow me to. But thats just because I love my wife.
I do not want to judge but I cant understand Josh Powell. I don't understand his actions,his words,or behavior in any way. What is wrong with this guy?
And to assume these theories and make them public in order to make himself look good is hurting lots of innocent people. It is extremely selfish.
And his Father Steve Powell probably never punished his son or taught him the meaning of responsibility.
His actions remind me of the pathetic neighbors response "Not my boy!" I used to hear by a parents whos children had no hope.
Josh was probably never spanked,sent to his room,grounded,or had his mouth washed out with soap.
I see serious parenting issues here. Josh will never grow up.

anti-liar
Salt Lake City, UT

"Under that criteria, tens of thousands more who fit the above description around 30, LDS and who passed through West Valley City in late 2009 would qualify instantly as suspects."

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Except for that one criterion that you left out, Mr. Benson: the fact that, unlike those "tens of thousands," Koecher and Powell each is MISSING.

Very good points, My2Cents.

And regarding "cruel." Sorry, folks, but the truth can BE cruel. Of course we don't know this alternative theory as fact. But neither can we correctly rule it out merely on the basis of blog posts which read: "But she would NEVER leave her children. Therefore, there is NO WAY the alternate theory could possibly be true!" The TRUTH is, these people do NOT know that she DIDN'T carry on an extra-marital relationship over the Internet, without tracks, using disposable, non-traceable phones, and that she ISN'T in Brazil, alive and well.

Father Powell's 9-page theory may be conceived in error. But it is reasonable and well thought-out, if you actually read it. And it in no way suggests that Josh is a saint, nor some fantastic husband.

CaseyA
Salt Lake City, UT

The Powell's theory is not new. If you look around you will see that the theory received attention early on in the case. It doesn't seem plausible and it has no evidence to support it but to me it looks like the Powells are grasping at straws.

The Susan Powell disappearance is odd in a lot of ways but the familial interactions in the case are crazy. It seems that both the Powell and Cox families are either being portrayed as crazy in the media or they are actually crazy. Either way, it doesn't bode well for Susan.

I'm not sure what to make of the Koecher mystery. The fact that one day after he was last seen his cell phone was used to check his voicemail is strange. I wonder if he isn't like that kid who wandered off to Alaska after college and they made a movie about him.

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