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Published: Saturday, Dec. 4 2010 12:00 a.m. MST

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The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Wow...

*grabs popcorn*

This is better than any paranoid tv show! I think even the John Birch society is in amazement!

Gus Talwynd
Salt Lake City, UT

Gosh, the craziness never ends! With the election a month behind us, we'd sure like to enjoy a respite from the vitrole. But, no, we have to be reminded that the 2012 presidential election is immenient and the old talking points require repetition ad nauseum.

Somehow, the "end of the world" argument remains a central part of Republican strategy to make Barack Obama as single-term president. So they unleash their minions to keep fear alive and shift focus from real issues to public relations clap-trap.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

I agree with The Real Maverick | 12:38 a.m -
Wow!!!

Frank Overfelt, You have officially removed all doubt with this latest letter.

[BTW - I am still amazed how and why the DN continues to print them - other than for sheer entertainment].

I can only assume you are a grumpy old man.
Dept. of Agriculture?
Dept. of Education?

but not a single word about Social Security or Medicare or any of YOUR benefits.

silas brill
Heber, UT

Among all of his attributes, Frank C. Overfelt's most recognizable one is denial.

You ignore the people who voted for Obama, who openly ran on health care reform, demonstrated when Obama won the Presidency of the United States.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

When people yell stupid things at me, I don't listen, either.

Furry1993
Somewhere in Utah, UT

Frank once again shows that he is clueless. I really don't understand why the DesNews continues to print his drivel. It is totally without merit.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Thank goodness Mr. Obama doesn't listen to these folks. Can you imagine the MESS we'd be in now if he did?

jmort
SLO, CA

I've thought seriously about writing an editorial explaning my firm belief that if we all paint ourselves purple and yelp at the moon three times each night the economy will improve. I haven't sent it in yet because I didn't think the DN would print it, but reading Frank Overfelt's editorial gives me hope.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Mr. Obama was elected to execute the laws passed by Congress, not to write legislation. When 59% of the people told him and Congress that they didn't want his health care nonsense, he ignored them. Apparently, those who have their heads in the sand think that 59% of the people are the minority. Congress represents the will of the people and of the states. When 59% of the people tell Congress to stop, that is the will of the people.

Mr. Obama has turned a deaf ear to the people who told him to leave taxes alone. Doesn't he realize that he will be charging the poorest among us 50% more if he repeals the Bush tax cut? The Bush tax cut established a 10% bracket where before the lowest bracket was 15%. By repealing the Bush tax cut, Mr. Obama will also do away with the 10% bracket. Has he lost his mind? Does he think that a 50% tax increase on the poor is justified?

What happened to the compassion of the Left for the poor? Mr. Obama wants to tax them to death. It seems that the liberal left agree with him.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Mike Richards | 12:37 p.m.

What happened to the compassion of the Left for the poor? Mr. Obama wants to tax them to death.

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Mike,

At what point is one no longer considered poor?
The President drew the line for tax hikes at those making OVER $250,000 a year.

Do you consider them POOR?

FYI - I recently heard the Mega-rich Warren Buffet, Paul Allen, Bill Gates, Jay Leno all thought the tax hike on the rich was the RIGHT thing to do.

Leno himself said it would not effect his life-style in the very least.

The only Mega-Rich against it have been the same blow-hards who's livelihood depends on whipping up fear and hatred -- Limbaugh, Beck & Hannity.

KJB1
Eugene, OR

Re: Mike Richards

Yes, and in 2012 we'll get to let President Obama know how we feel about him and his policies. Where in the Constitution does it say that the president and Congress have to take a poll before doing anything? Voting is the only "poll" that counts. Just because something works one way in MikeRichardsLand doesn't make it so for the rest of us.

Of course, Bush stood by the war in Iraq when it grew increasingly unpopular with the American people, but that's different, right?

oldasdirt
Grantsville, UT

No president should run the country based on polls. While we may agree or disagree with the direction the country has been heading the best recourse is communicating with our representatives. Obama and other presidents have a wealth of information and advise that we can not access. He has tempered his views on the wars and other issues. Let us give the man the respect he deserves. Politics are sometimes a war of opinions and swing back and forward it is our system. We need to get people back to work and feeling good about the future

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

One of the duties of the President is to be the Commander In Chief. He doesn't have time to listen to foolish naysayers when the lives of our soldiers are at risk; however, Mr. Obama campaigned that he was going to get us out of Iraq and Afghanistan. How's he doing on that promise?

Congress represents the people and the States. They are elected to REPRESENT the people of their State, in the case of Representatives, or their State, in the case of the Senate.

Nowhere in the Constitution is it said or even implied that the only vote that matters is the vote that got them into office. Our Representatives have telephones. They receive email. They (supposedly) have town meetings. They tell us that they will do what we want them to do. The liberals disagree. They want our Congress to represent the liberal forces that funded the election - regardless of the will of the people. They've bought and paid for those seats in Congress and they don't want any Congressman to get sidetracked by listening to the people that he represents.

Christy
Beaverton, OR

@Mike -

So how come our representatives aren't listening to the majority of Americans who are in favor of repealing DADT, and who want don't want to see millionaires and billionaires and CEOs who ship our jobs overseas receive $700 Billion in tax breaks?

Or are you only upset about them not listening to you on Health Care Reform? I'm a liberal and guess what? I don't like Obama's Health Care Reform either because it falls too short!

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

Obama listens all right -- but to the wrong people.Obamacare is a huge giveaway to the very people who have been shafting us all along--the insurance companies. They wrapped him like a rubber band around their fingers. I honestly thought he was smarter than that.

Dart Thrower
Ogden, UT

Actually Obama has great hearing, but he only listens to Republicans. He caved in on Healthcare (no single payer), he caved in on Federal Employee pay freeze, he caved in on offshore drilling and he is caving in on extending the Bush era tax cuts. If Conservatives would use common sense, they would pray for another Obama term. He has given them everything they could have asked for and more

Tanguero
Salt Lake City, UT

What is the difference between a guess and a poll number?

This is a loaded question, but when people say that 59% of Americans are against something, the rules of statistical analysis are the first thing to think about.

Polls, at best, are a rough guess about people's opinions on particular issues. However, good polling (as opposed to polling by the interested party) depend upon asking the right question in the right way and having a "representative" sample from which to draw to get an accurate result. Most polls fail in both categories.

Polling numbers are less reflective of public opinion when there is a narrow margin. Although polling companies say that their numbers are +/- 1-5 percentage points, think more like 50-100 percentage points. The propaganda, lies, and political spin make giving an informed opinion extremely difficult.

Given any issue, questions can be written to give any poll result a person may want. It doesn't matter, for the most part what the issue is. The statistics can be skewed to even convince someone that they are not really alive or that the moon is really made out of blue cheese and the world is flat.

the truth
Holladay, UT

Its very concerning what the excutive branch has been doing since theodore rooselvelt decided he had the power to take state lands.

We now have TSA, BLM, EPA, FCC, IRS, and dozens of other excutive organizations,

taking power,
making laws and regulations, and policy,

usurping the power of congress.

We just don't have a judical activism problem,

or a congress "we can do whatever we what because you voted us to" problem,

but a pervasive federal government run amok problem,

fed by progressives and liberals who desire a massive federal government to control and regulate everyone lives, homes, business, schools, food, transporation, thoughts, speech, rights, guns, medical care, lands, state, etc, etc, etc,

that desperately needs to be shrunk back down to size.

ronnie
sandy, utah

Based on his comments Mike Richards does not appear to understand polls, let alone understand health care problems. I have not seen a poll that says 59 percent of Americans want to repeal health care.

The congress has failed to do anything substantial for health care until recently. The republicans hate the thought that the dems will get the credit for it, therefore they are doing everything possible to stop reform, even though they acknowledge some things they want to keep. Where is their spirit of cooperation.
An argument against it is that health care reform will bankrupt the country. A very foolish self righteous statement by the right. How about conducting two wars and giving a tax break.those things are what will bankrupt our government.

Anti Bush-Obama
Washington DC, MD

I would rather die horribly and painfully before I would ever accept obamacare. Death is a much better alternative for me. If I don't live in a free country, my life is meaningless anyway.

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