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Harry Reid pushes bill to allow for online gambling

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  • Two Cents Springville, Utah
    Dec. 9, 2010 12:16 p.m.

    No man can serve two masters... obviously.

  • A proper Bostonian medford, MA
    Dec. 6, 2010 1:46 p.m.

    Harry Reid has sold his soul to the devil, putting his integrity on the line. No wonder he's shunned by the LDS community. I live in the state where we "put up" with a mean spirited, lackluster politician like Barney Frank. Massachusetts is a liberal state with a lot of political corruption. Harry Reid is placating his peers and constituents. He's gone "a whoring after strange gods." He's earned his thirty pieces of silver.

  • Hoosier Daddy Van Buren, AR
    Dec. 6, 2010 1:29 p.m.

    Michelle said of Senator Reid, "...I'm ashamed to use him as an example of LDS.." I hope she can say just as vehemently about Glenn Beck, "I'm ashamed to use him as an example of LDS."

    Although I choose not to gamble, I am aware that many folks do. I have witnessed that a state referendum by the taxpayers to establish a lottery has done more than anything else to fund college scholarships for thousands of Arkansans, a major breakthrough in support for higher education. A similar proposal to raise taxes for student scholarships would never have stood a chance in the voting booth.

  • JoeBlow Miami Area, Fl
    Dec. 6, 2010 7:03 a.m.

    "the claim that gambling interests and the people of Nevada are one and the same is totally false."

    Where did anyone ever say that?

    Of course they are not "the same"

    That said, A politician running on ending gaming in Nevada would not go very far.

    And for those in "western Las Vegas", I would bet that it is a case of NIMBY.

    But I doubt that the majority of those people favor ending gaming and casinos in Nev and lose all the jobs and tax advantages associated with it.

  • Bill in Nebraska Maryville, MO
    Dec. 6, 2010 6:53 a.m.

    I would like to make a statement that it is sometimes unpopular to do what is right. Mr. Reid has made a decision to help or aide some of constinguents. In his mind it is right. I don't agree with it as I know just as many know that what will happen is broken families, countless hours sitting in front of a computer and playing a game. This takes time away from families and family activities.

    Yes, the LDS Church is against any form of gambling as it is an ill of society. It destroys more than it helps.

    For a politician to do what is right against what the people want has cost many an election.

    During the impeachment of Andrew Johnson his impeachment trial came down to one vote. That vote was cast by a Missourian who stood up for the Union as a whole and voted against the impeachment. In the end his political career was over. Politicians as a whole are nothing more than criminals dressed in sheep clothing. We decide basically every two or four years which of these criminals will lead our country.

  • John Pack Lambert of Michigan Ypsilanti, MI
    Dec. 5, 2010 9:21 p.m.

    I disagree that Senators or Representatives have to "put their people's wishes above their religious beliefs". Legislators should seek for positive public policy decisions, and this can often mean advocating public policy that is unpopular.

    If the function of legislators was just to parrot the wish of the majority, we could get rid of the legislature and have popular votes on all issues. Since we actually have legislators, it is their duty to advocate positive public policy even when it is seen as a bad decision.

    Anyway, having served my mission in Las Vegas, Nevada the claim that gambling interests and the people of Nevada are one and the same is totally false. There are many people in Nevada not involved in gambling at all, and others only vaguely. There is a reason why in parts of western Las Vegas there are enough people who oppose casinos that they have voted against allowing them to be built there.

  • JoeBlow Miami Area, Fl
    Dec. 5, 2010 7:38 a.m.

    "To reelect Harry Reid was about as dumb as it gets."

    You mean as opposed to electing Sharon Angle?

    The woman who thinks the media should only ask the questions that SHE WANTS TO ANSWER?

    As far as if Reid should support prostitution, YES, if the majority of the state he represents wanted that. Nationally? Of course not.(I doubt that is the case, but the point is made)

    Look, people are gambling on line today. And all of the money is going overseas. It certainly makes sense to look at it.

    Our politicians should vote the general will of the people that they represent.

    Unfortunately, they typically vote with whoever is giving them the most money.

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 5, 2010 12:25 a.m.

    To reelect Harry Reid was about as dumb as it gets.

  • KurtFK Littleton, CO
    Dec. 4, 2010 10:35 p.m.

    Well gee, if Barney Frank thinks gambling is OK, who am I to say no? He gambled with Fannie and Freddie, and the whole nation came up snakeyes. Sounds like he knows what he's talking about...

  • michaelm Waukesha, WI
    Dec. 4, 2010 10:07 p.m.

    People making the argument that Reid is just doing his job looking out for his state have no clue about what casino's in his state want. Most are against online gaming because it draws people away form the casinos.

    If he were protecting the state he would have chosen another option. Online gaming taxes don't stay in Nevada, they go to DC. Indian oversight? There is only one Indian casino in Nevada to my knowledge and it is one of the smaller ones. And as far as requiring them to only be 5 years old? All the real players have been around for decades, however making it 5 years allows all the new players to take more revenue away from the big players.

    None of these actions are for the benefit of Nevada casinos or gaming corporations.

    Lastly, most of the supporters Reid has in NV are not LDS, the majority of which are more conservative voters. Reid only sends up the LDS flag during elections, the rest of the time his religion is politics, greed, and power.

  • Brent T. Aurora CO Aurora, CO
    Dec. 4, 2010 8:48 p.m.

    Let's see commenters... prostitution is legal in Nevada so Harry Reid should promote it nationally? That seems to be the logic of those arguing here -- that personal beliefs and principles don't matter. Balderdash. We try to elect good people of conscience to do the right thing. In that sense, a church or creed, Mormon or not, matters very much. Reid is clearly a hypocrite here. I don't live in Nevada; and cannot understand how he was elected or how his constituents feel they can trust him.

    As to the trend, and it was long ago a trend and now simply business as usual, of gambling to fund government -- it is great evil in our society.

  • JoeBlow Miami Area, Fl
    Dec. 4, 2010 3:30 p.m.

    Which is it folks?

    Should Harry Reid do all in his power to end gambling in Nevada because the LDS church does not condone it?

    How about Coffee and Alcohol? Should Harry initiate legislation to end those?

    Are those what the people of Nevada want?

    I have thought that as an astute businessman, Romney would make a good president.

    But.... are you saying he should put the views of his church ahead of all else?

    On second thought, maybe Romney is not a good fit.

  • Michelle Z Blanchester, Ohio
    Dec. 4, 2010 11:35 a.m.

    I guess , he has put aside integrity and following church dictates. Too bad that popularity and being accepted by the mass has caused him to rationalize and justify his behavior and what he stands for.. First national socialistic healthcare [any program that dictates (removes freedom to choose) and fines you for not doing as they say is corrupt] and now gambling even poker online(another foot in the door).. The ways of the world are getting him. Evil is insidious, a little deal here and a little there until it has the whole hand, then arm.. He's well on the way.. For us valiant LDS, watching, it is too bad we don't have a valiant, hot, gospel principled man standing up and setting the example. I'm ashamed to use him as an example of LDS..

  • lookbeyond Moab, UT
    Dec. 4, 2010 10:26 a.m.

    It shows you Harry Reid will do anything to pay back those who succeeded in getting him re-elected. He has lost his principles and is a real disappointment to me! He must be "losing it in his declining years" to abandon those principles which will stand him in good stead in eternity. Poor Harry is to be pitied.........

  • maureenaus Enoch, Ut
    Dec. 4, 2010 10:03 a.m.

    Do the words "double standard" come to mind? LDS doctrinal standards require LDS members not gamble. Yes there are those that do, but is that not a double standard? I personally have enough "sins" to work on without adding that to my list, but, many are losing their shirts, their own fault yes, but it lures the people in thinking each time their chances are better. Families have broken up through the gambling life and addiction to same. Harry Reid is looking out for Harry make no mistake. Not for the "little guy/gal" of Nevada. Just when he wants their votes are they convenient to him.

  • Hellooo Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2010 10:00 a.m.

    Payback time, now you see how Mr. Reid won his last election. Oh, dargen next time you get dealt that royal flush just keep whispering its all because of my skill.

  • funny_guy Vacaville, CA
    Dec. 4, 2010 9:52 a.m.

    Reid, remind us why you are LDS?

  • L Central Utah, UT
    Dec. 4, 2010 9:46 a.m.

    "We are not talking about an activity that harms others where we properly step in," Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., the current Financial Services chairman, said at a hearing this year.

    Poker is not gambling. It is a skill game involving the use of cards. Anyone who has actually played it would know this"

    I must be smarter than others cause I have seen it cause problems for and individuals family, his sons family and is now having an effect on his grandson. Congressman Frank should get aquainted before he makes such statements. Poker was gambling in the case(s) I know about and as long as it is for money rather than "matchsticks" it will be so. If not why are the Nevada gambling intrests promoting it.

    Well Reid is supposed to represent the interests of his state & as an example they have shown a lot of interest by their money. I don't know personally if on-line poker would actually be benefical to most of the citizens of Nevada.

    FINALLY - talk about the fox guarding the chicken coop, the gambling industry is to oversee the on-line gambling - WOW !

  • Back Overland Park, KS
    Dec. 4, 2010 9:35 a.m.

    Poker is a game. Any game involving the chance for money is gambling (check the dictionary). I've seen too many people have their lives set back by gambling and its addiction. I believe it ruins lives and communities.

    Now, back to Reid. I believe his policies also ruin lives and communities. We get what we vote for.

  • xscribe Colorado Springs, CO
    Dec. 4, 2010 9:33 a.m.

    Wow, this is one of those topics, and the accompanying posts, that should scare everyone. There's many posts on here saying that the politician should vote his/her religion's beliefs and not their own beliefs or the wants of their contituents. Let's watch as America comes full circle: They left England because of a lack of religious freedom, but here we are now wanting religion to rule our country.

    Also, is it against Mormon religion to gamble? Because if it is, there are many more hypocrits out there than Mr. Reid.

  • darjen cleveland, oh
    Dec. 4, 2010 8:20 a.m.

    Poker is not gambling. It is a skill game involving the use of cards. Anyone who has actually played it would know this.

  • My2Cents Kearns, UT
    Dec. 4, 2010 7:59 a.m.

    Reid is NUTS and this just adds to his incompetence as a representative of the people. It is not the people who want gambling, its the state and business world who basically have no rights to vote on any issue.

    Nevada for the first time in many generations are feeling the pinch and disadvantage of a gambling dependent government and society that is totally dependent on outsiders of the state to be their bread and butter. Now they want to spread their flawed philosophy to the rest of the country.

    I have nothing against gambling but using it as the states main financial resource is too dangerous. Especially in a down economy and no jobs.

    Like many state with their lotteries they are now losing money and even more trying to pay past mega winners with IOU's out of funds that have shrunk. Gambling is not the resource for government obligations.

  • higv Dietrich, ID
    Dec. 4, 2010 7:24 a.m.

    Dingy Harry needs to read James E Fausts talk about offending the devil. He also should read the 2005 April General Conference Priesthood address of President Hinckley. He goes with his party more than with his church.

  • Sorry Charlie! SLC, UT
    Dec. 3, 2010 8:48 p.m.

    @ Tomv: Absolutely so! How dare an elected official put the desires of his constituents above his personal beliefs! Doing his job - the absolute shame!

  • Gramma of 7 Lehi, Utah
    Dec. 3, 2010 8:44 p.m.

    NOTHING Harry Reid does surprises me.

  • elton1111 Oak Hills, CA
    Dec. 3, 2010 8:21 p.m.

    Well, he's a politician, representing the people of Nevada, who want gambling because they want that for their economy. Being their representative, he has to put his people's wishes above his own religious beliefs sometimes. That said, being LDS myself, that is an unsavory bill. There's a reason I choose not to live in Nevada.

  • Tomv Ogden, UT
    Dec. 3, 2010 7:08 p.m.

    Very very interesting! This is so, especially in light of the fact that Harry O is a member of the the LDS (Mormon)Church and the Cburch has long been against gambling of any kind.

    Harry is not only a liberal but also a hypocrite!