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  • COUGARNATE Lyman, WY
    Dec. 2, 2010 1:09 p.m.

    Jake showed what kind of player he is on Saturday, and that is a very good one. He is going to be a great one for the COUGS. I am very excited for the next few years. GO COUGARS!!!!!

  • Vegas Las Vegas, NV
    Dec. 2, 2010 10:16 a.m.

    Firehawk,

    Have you even watched Heaps play? Heaps is good. The biggest problem was the 2 qb system in the first half of the season. Receivers were woefully unprepared to catch Heaps' rocket passes. Even commentators were talking about his accuracy as early as the AFA game where Heaps was threading 25 passes between defenders only to see them bounce off the hands of the receivers.

    As far as I'm concerned, Heaps has proven it. As a freshman he looks better than most sophomores. In the next 2 seasons BYU will have a fantastic passing game.

  • fresnogirl Fresno, CA
    Dec. 1, 2010 3:20 p.m.

    I got to meet Jake after the New Mexico game and I was struck by just how very YOUNG he is! When they are all padded up and ready for battle, I forget that some are still boys.

    But, even young, he showed so much poise. I think he is just going to continue improving and maturing as a quarterback and leader of the Cougar offense. Good job, Jake. Good luck in your first bowl game.

  • FireHawk Aurora, CO
    Dec. 1, 2010 11:04 a.m.

    LonestarRunner.

    You're right ..I meant the FRESHMAN Pete Thomas! (Nico is the other freshman QB they were looking at the first of the year)

    Thomas is ranked 78th - Heaps is still 102nd...that includes his last six games. Thomas had a pretty bad team to work with and was sacked 44 times too.

    Heaps' one game 8th best rating is smoke and mirrors...he only completed 15 passes that game. If he threw one pass and completed one pass he would have a 100% rating. Thomas completed 28 passes in that game and threw for more yards. But BYU won so they were the better team obviously.

    I don't dislike heaps but it is too early to be saying he will be the best ever to play at BYU. Ignore the HYPE. Let him prove it.

    Now reference the rest of my previous post on the problems he has inherited. Also he had to deal with a wishy washy coaching staff and the never logically splitting of two QB's time...WHY?

    There are several Freshman QBs that rate better. I watch all college football not just BYU so my head is not burried in the sand...You?

  • --JEFFE-- Cedar City, UT
    Dec. 1, 2010 10:50 a.m.

    Since we cant seem to get Uteology off the BYU comment boards I have decided to address his misguided attempts at logic and reason.

    First off, you continue to talk down Jake Heaps saying that he only performed well against cupcake teams.
    Were those not the same teams Wynn performed well against?
    And Jake was by far the best QB in RES. Not only by stats, but by poise and skill and ability to make plays. Drives stalled because of ridiculous playcalls, and dropped passes in critical situations.

    While you are posting stats...
    Utah did not play a quality opponent in their first 7 games. Look what happened when they played TCU? 47-7 was it? And a 6-6 ND team 28-3? Wynn had 12 games to pad up his stats, and guess what. He finished with less than 300 yards more than Jake Heaps.
    (Heaps 2,052) (Wynn 2,334)
    And Heaps was splitting time with Riley Nelson until game 4.

    Lack of offensive production is due to Anae, not Heaps.
    We need a new OC in Provo if we are to be successful next season.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Dec. 1, 2010 9:01 a.m.

    @Same old Ute Trolls

    1- BYU will indeed enjoy their 10-15 million dollars in TV revenues, generated by their "Own Brand" and "Cache".

    They'll also enjoy their Exposure by having every one of their games on National TV, either with the ESPN networks or BYU-TV.

    Recruits are going to Dig that, heh Utes?

    (As for Utah, enjoy your occasional Fox Regional appearance. Anybody seen Washington State lately Utes? Welcome to their Word)

    And while BYU in time, ramps up their scheduling, with big time National opponents, with ESPN at their back, (after all they have "Invested" in BYU), and schedule 2.5 million dollar pre-season games etc......

    You Utes just sit tight and wait 5 years for the Pac-12 to make you a "full" partner in TV revenues.

    And that is If and only IF their next TV Contract exceeds 170 million dollars.

    BYU has planned for a decade for this move and when the time came, all the building blocks were in place.

    Yes, now they, like every College Football Team in America has to perform.

    This much we know, BYU's future looks pretty good as an Independent Heaps and all.

  • CougarOnTheProwl Murray, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 10:44 p.m.

    Heaps looked very poised for a true freshman on the road and he put byu in position to win the game at the end. He clearly outplayed both Wynn and Cain combined. I was very impressed and im very encouraged about the future.

  • cougar76 Provo, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 9:41 p.m.

    Fire Anae and hire a OC with some imagination and the smarts to make adjustments at the half and during the game that will keep the defense off balance. Instead we get a final drive that starts with two inexplicable running plays and, even worse, ends with three more. All this while the newts are sitting in a run defense and giving up chunks of yardage on pass plays. What was he doing at the end of the game? Trying to create drama...? All he did was lose a game that should not have come down to the last play.

  • Outsideview Federal Way, WA
    Nov. 30, 2010 9:32 p.m.

    I do hope the Bronco give Anae some direction on what he wants on the offense. More Biose State style of precise execution and innovation. There is nothing wrong with changing a few things late in the year like changing your running formations etc.

    If Anae doesnt share the vision he should change responsibilitys.

  • CWEB Orem, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 9:15 p.m.

    Anae floated with Beck and Hall audibles out of Anae play calls. I've NEVER liked Anae.

    Finish the job of repairs Coach M....we all know Anae needs to go.

    Bring in a new OC or promote Doman.

    Until you do, Heaps is doomed.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 8:54 p.m.

    I think Heaps numbers were much lower than they would have been because of Anae. Anae had the training wheels on all year and wouldn't call plays that would allow Heaps to shine. Heaps can make just about any throw you want but Anae wouldn't let him. Even in this last game against the utes Anae wouldn't let loose of the reins. It was frustrating to watch and see the plays that were called.
    I would love to see Anae either let go or moved to another position (assistant head coach over the O line), bring in Detmer as QB coach and let Doman be the Off. Coord.
    With all the young talent returning and the new recruits the future looks bright.

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Nov. 30, 2010 8:16 p.m.

    "Heaps botched a hand-off and turned the ball over."

    Heaps didn't botch a hand-off. One of the running backs went the wrong way. When you have two backs in the same place as the hand-off, it's tough to make it clean. Not Heaps fault, unless he gave a bad call.

    "Heaps can't throw a pass to gain 6 inches on fourth down."

    Anybody with a brain knows that throwing a pass on 4th and inches isn't the best play to call. When all you need is half a foot, run a QB sneak, not a pass. Bad play call; not Heaps fault.

    Besides; he's a true freshman. Stop acting like he should be perfect already. He'll learn, or somebody will take the job away from him.

  • fender Washington, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 7:59 p.m.

    BYU fans are correct that Heaps' mechanics are very good. He has spent years learning the Slack method, which is the best in my opinion. His mechanics are not "far superior" to Wynn's, but they are better.

    Heaps throws a really nice ball and his movement in the pocket is efficient and precise. His ability to follow a progression to an open guy has really improved (thanks to Doman).

    The downside for Heaps is average size (6-1 194), a lack of mobility and core strength, and only average arm strength (several scout evals substantiate that). Both strength and speed could be greatly improved in the weight room, but reports are he's not keen on weights.

    The real problem for BYU and Utah is that the immobile pure pocket passer and power spread offenses they run are outmoded. The future at the college level is clearly the zone read being run at Oregon, Auburn and Miss. State. It requires a very athletic QB who can run and throw. A Steve Young and new OC is what BYU and Utah really need. Neither school is gonna be a big winner with the offenses they run and QBs they start.

  • PAC12South Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 7:09 p.m.

    Jake Heaps is a fine player, but lets not overrate his performance against the Utes. He passed for 228 yards, 1 TD, 1 Int and a 10.4 average per completion which was marginally better than Wynn. Wynn passed for 198 yards, 1 Int and 16.5 per completion last year in Provo in his 4th start which is pretty comparable to Heaps this year. Both players are young and talented, but there is no way of knowing which one will end up the better QB. To think Heaps will be the next great BYU qb because he had a mediocre performance against the Utes is ludicrous.

  • wyoming cougar Green River, WY
    Nov. 30, 2010 5:50 p.m.

    Despite the poor call, BYU had every chance in the world to finish off the utes and didn't capitalize. It was unfortunate after playing hard and playing great defense all day against a top-20 team that thought they'd be blowing BYU out.

    I find it quite interesting that the so-called ute fans (really BYU haters) rushed the field after the game. I mean who wouldn't be excited after beating a .500 team by 1 point. And I won't even mention the displays of classlessness by some after the game. It was rather obnoxious.

    My biggest gripe against the hypocritical u fans currently is this: Many of you were on these message boards not too long ago stating that if BYU had any integrity they'd forfeit the game to sdsu over a blown call in the 3rd qtr of that game. How can u now justify that utah shouldn't be asked to do the same?

    I'm not personally asking for this, it's part of the game- I'm just disgusted by the hypocritical nature of the whole thing from the utes.

  • UtahManDan Providence, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 4:50 p.m.

    Let's see.

    Heaps went into the game with absolutely no pressure on his shoulders and how did he do? Not bad, but...

    Heaps botched a hand-off and turned the ball over.

    Heaps was intercepted (ill-advised under-thrown ball into double coverage).

    Heaps can't throw a pass to gain 6 inches on fourth down.

    Heaps, thanks to special teams and defense, was gift-wrapped great field position the entire first half and could only generate 6 points.

    Heaps' one and only touchdown was to a WIDE open receiver.

    Is this what happens when your heart is ripped out of your chest and run through a meat grinder? You cling to any moral victory/hope you can, regardless of how small and insignificant it may be?

    I'm not saying Heaps doesn't have potential. He just didn't show much in that game. I'm looking forward to see how he does in the future. I sincerely hope he does well. I'd just lay off the hype if I were you.

  • TheSpiker Alpine, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 4:31 p.m.

    We don't need to defend Heaps to a bunch of loser U fans that come on an article to criticize him out of fear and frustration at the demise of their "National Championship" team.

  • Wallbanger Spanish Fork, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 4:16 p.m.

    As a huge Utes fan I think Heaps will be an awesome qb. Wynn may end up being really good, but doubtful. I would rather have Heaps than Wynn. I think BYU will do really well in the future. You guys have come a long way since a really bad start of the season. I won't rub the win in. We got very lucky as did you guys in 06' 07' and 09'. That's the way of the rivalry. Best of luck to you guys in the future as well as the Utes. We are going to need it if we don't get our offense going by next year for the Pac 12.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 3:58 p.m.

    FireHawk

    "He is ranked 102 out of 114 Quarterbacks on ESPN and well below several other freshman QB's... including CSU's Redshirt freshman Nico Ranieri."

    Check your stats. Ranieri hasn't even played QB this year.

    Nice try, but you're not seeing the forest for the trees. Jake got off to a slow start splitting QB duties, coping with two separate offenses, and being surrounded by freshmen receivers, running backs, and tight-end, plus a brutal early schedule.

    Compare Jake's stats the last six games of the season versus the first six games of the season and you'll see a marked improvement, including this game against CSU:

    15/20 242 yds 75% 4 TD, 0 int, *242.6 rating

    *8th highest passing efficiency rating for a single game in BYU history. Considering all of the great quarterbacks who have played for BYU, that's quite an accomplishment for a true freshman.

    Feel free to bury your head in the sand and pretend that the overall season totals are a true indication of how good Jake is now, and how much better he'll be next year.

  • BYU Student Provo, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 3:41 p.m.

    My bad - the 242 was against CSU, not UNLV.

  • BYU Student Provo, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 3:41 p.m.

    Look, I don't know how we can really compare Heaps and Wynn at this point. I mean, you talk about Wynn's passer rating of 139 - most of which came in the first part of the season. He's only hit his average ONCE since playing CSU, and that was almost 6 weeks ago.

    Heaps numbers aren't great, but they are improving, and a passer rating of 242 (against UNLV) is otherworldly. The class of the league is clearly Andy Dalton (167 average), but Heaps is a true freshman with a lot of freshmen around him. Timing wasn't tremendous against New Mexico, but he did far better than Hall against Utah - I remember stressing last year in our narrow victory, because Hall couldn't put anything together. But for Heaps, the sky feels like the limit. He's got the arm, and he's got the smarts. Next year he'll have the weapons around him. I'm far more worried for our own secondary - we'll be destroying everybody else's.

  • FireHawk Aurora, CO
    Nov. 30, 2010 2:33 p.m.

    Heaps is a young Freshman who started college early so I think he played well given the circumstances... and he did improve.

    BUT:

    He is ranked 102 out of 114 Quarterbacks on ESPN and well below several other freshman QB's... including CSU's Redshirt freshman Nico Ranieri.

    Also look at Notre Dame's Freshman QB Tommy Rees who stepped up and won 3 in a row including the major rivalry at USC.

    Heaps inherited some major BYU football problems going all the way back to not hiring Norm Chow and proceeding through mediocre decisions and coaches to Bronco's constant excuse making and inability to step up as the "HEAD COACH" and take responsibility.

    Shut down the hype and look for honest answers otherwise expect more seasons like this last one.

    Yes men, excuse makers and listening to "Homer" media will break your program down soon enough.

    Good luck in the New Mexico Bowl.

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    Nov. 30, 2010 1:56 p.m.

    @uteology...Replay booth win. Well then what does that make your win on Saturday...Replay-booth-gate 2.

    The difference was the against SDSU, BYU had 75% of the possession and the replay issue was in the 3rd qtr. Against U, the issue took place with 6 min left in the game...of course with your blinders on you cant/wont see the difference.

    Either way, you won the game...with a lot of help.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Nov. 30, 2010 1:51 p.m.

    I don't understand all the criticism of Bob Anae. He would have no trouble finding a coordinator position with any number of BCS schools at far more money. He's a talented guy but he's working with a freshman quarterback who is still learning the system. You run the plays that your guys can run especially in clutch situations. He got them into a position to win the game. The fact that Utah pulled off an incredible defensive move isn't the fault of Anae or Heaps.

  • John Stewart Pill Vienna, VA
    Nov. 30, 2010 1:48 p.m.

    Good article. I hope he keeps getting better and continues to "established himself in the sphere he was placed upon in Provo." Although I'm not sure how one can be IN a sphere and ON it at the same time. Magic happens, I guess.

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 1:35 p.m.

    Uteology

    Fiction: "Utah played one of its horrible games of the season on the offense."

    Fact: BYU's defense is MUCH better than Utah fans were expecting and SHUTDOWN the Utah offense; which isn't nearly as good as advertised.

    BYU's defense held TCU to 3 points until the waining moments of the first half when BYU's offense gave the Horned Frogs two short fields for quick scores. Even then, BYU only gave up 31 points to TCU and nobody has scored more than 35 points on BYU all season.

    The defense Utah saw Saturday is the same defense BYU has been playing since Bronco assumed defensive coordinator duties after the Utah State debacle.

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 1:12 p.m.

    Uteology

    "I think we can all agree Wynn had a horrible season."

    What we can all agree on is that Wynn isn't, and never will be, a very good quarterback.

    Wynn was surrounded by veteran players, had a year of learning the Utah offense under his belt, and a cupcake schedule to fine tune his skills the first two months of the season. There's absolutely NO REASON why Wynn shouldn't have had an outstanding year -- except, he's not a very good QB.

    Heaps is just getting started. He was forced to split time in training camp and the first month of the season in a two-quarterback, two-offense system. He was surrounded by young receivers, young running backs and young tight-ends. He had a brutal schedule to open the season, with no cupcakes to fine tune his skills. And yet, he outperformed Wynn and put BYU in position to win the game even with all of the lucky breaks that went Utah's way.

    BYU fans are excited about the progress they've seen Heaps make this year.

    Are Utah fans excited about Wynn?

  • ida-coug Pocatello, ID
    Nov. 30, 2010 1:03 p.m.

    uteology,
    Slow down son. Go take your meds..... talk about cupcakes, Saturdays game must come to mind. If BYU was so bad then Utah must really stink it up. I think you biggest problem is seeing what Utah is in for next year in the Pac12.. pretty scarey....

  • U4Me Sandy, Utah
    Nov. 30, 2010 12:58 p.m.

    Dick, comedy central needs you!
    Hilarious article, the training wheel comment was the best!
    That was better when the ESPN analyst asked you "Why was Utah Chosen to go to the PAC 10?" Your answer: Because they're not BYU!!! LMBO
    Im going to be civilized and invite all of you Yners to a Fun Filled BLOCK PARTY!
    Bring the Green Jello!

  • Ted H Sandy, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 12:51 p.m.

    Funny lUsers who talk about byu "barely" winning games like against SDSU thanks to a replay booth bad call.

    Sounds eerily familiar.

    Surely a team that was "top 2 in the nation(Zaney boy taylor) would have man handled a team as bad as the lUsers make BYU out to be. Right?

    Surely it wouldnt have been a 1 point win, at home, thanks to a replay booth call, right?

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 12:48 p.m.

    Uteology

    "Am I missing something here?"

    Yes! Critical analysis skills.

    If the only thing you know how to analyze is stats, then you're missing the bigger picture -- poise, mechanics, reads, etc. For a true freshman QB in his first game in an extremely hostile rivalry environment, Heaps was remarkably poised, showed good fundamentals, made proper reads, threw the ball away when needed. Several of Heaps' passes were right on target and would have gone for big gains or kept drives alive, but were dropped.

    Get a replay of the game and watch the mechanics of both QBs critically. Heaps is by no means perfect, but his mechanics are far superior to Wynn's.

    As soon as BYU's coaches take the training wheels off and allow Heaps to start calling his own plays, Heaps is going to start putting up some remarkable numbers. Ross Apo will be back and healthy next year and with a full off-season for Heaps and his receivers to work out the timing of routes and BYU receivers learning to catch Jake's passes, it's going to be an exciting year for BYU fans.

    Wynn starting next year? Scary for Utah fans.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    Nov. 30, 2010 12:39 p.m.

    @AFCoug
    "BYU had to grow into this season and once they did the offense looked solid."

    That's an incomplete sentence. Let me help you.

    BYU had to grow into this season and once they did the offense looked solid "against cupcakes".

    Here's why:

    4 of the last 5 wins were over teams with 3 wins or less (aka cupcakes).

    The SDSU win was because Heaps used the entire play clock to keep SDSU off the filed, TOP: 45 minutes to 15.

    Yet you only scored 24 points and barley won hanging by a replay booth bad call.

  • SportzFan Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 12:30 p.m.

    A coach who underestimates his players will lose to a coach who doesn't underestimate his, but trains them up to the higher expectations.

    I'm in shock over Anae's guidelines:

    "It would be nice if offensive coordinator Robert Anae dispensed with the training wheels he gave Beck and tried to place on Max Hall in their first years: No audibilizing out of a run play to a pass, only a run to another run.

    Dang it, if a run play is absolutely not going to work against eight guys in the box, why not let your guy change it? Opponents like Utah have caught on."

    That is beyond stupid.

    The whole "managing the team's culture" stuff is laughable. Get you head out of a book, Bronco, and lead. You have unbelievable natural ability to get guys to follow you, so do it.

    AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR. Learn the offense. Monitor what is happening. Override him when his brain shuts down, as it does several times a season. (Like last year when he insisted on passing against a smaller, quicker, FSU when he had BYU's all-time rusher in the backfield.)

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    Nov. 30, 2010 12:31 p.m.

    Heaps hasn't beat a single team with his arm all season except cupcakes.

    Heaps lead team has not scored 17 points all season on the road except against cupcakes.

    Heaps hasn't beat a single team on the road except cupcakes.

    Heaps as a starter is 5-5: 4 cupcakes and 1 replay booth win.

    Heaps in 10 games has a rating of 110 while Wynn in 10 games has a rating of 139... and I think we can all agree Wynn had a horrible season.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    Nov. 30, 2010 12:13 p.m.

    Tom in CA
    "Any your mighty utes were impressive in the 17-16 W, weren't they"

    Not at all. Utah played one of its horrible games of the season on the offense. In fact the offense and Wynn have looked bad in 3 of the last 4 games (exception @SDSU).

    The offense played horrible and gifted BYU short filed position the entire game only to be saved by our defense.

    Utah has been mediocre at best over the last five games. Yet we went 3-2 over the period.

    @Cougarista
    Yes, the 5 star QB "could" be a great QB on day.
    Is he today? NO.

    Does one drive prove he will be great? No.

    He has potential but only time will tell.

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 12:10 p.m.

    byronbca

    Heaps has already put up Detmer and McMahon type numbers in having the 8th highest passing efficiency rating for a single game in BYU history.

    Considering all of the great quarterbacks who have played for BYU, that's quite a feat for a true freshman.

    Heaps is just getting started. He'll be MUCH better next year.

    Wynn hasn't improved much at all, if any, from last year and the only reason he wasn't benched more often this year is because Cain won't be back next year, so Wynn is the default starter for next year.

    Fans who understand football recognize the mechanics, footwork, arm strength, reads, and decision-making that go into making a great QB. Heaps has those skills. Wynn doesn't. It's as simple as that.

  • fender Washington, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 12:00 p.m.

    I've been critical of Heaps for several reasons, but his play against Utah was more than adequate and he put BYU in a position to win the game. He spotted open receivers and got them the ball on time, two things he did not do well early on. Doman deserves credit.

    I do not, however, understand those who are so convinced he's more productive (better) than Wynn. I suppose we all see what we want to see, but if you compare freshman year stats, Wynn has a better rating 130.75 to 110.80, completion percentage 58 to 55 and ypc 7.43 to 5.88. I'm not making the case Wynn is better, I just don't see the argument that he's not as good.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    Nov. 30, 2010 11:51 a.m.

    Am I missing something here? He had a short field to work with almost all game and scored only 16 points.

    He had his only TD because the Ute secondary left the WR open in the end zone. Even Cain would have made that throw.

    Yes, he had a great final drive at the end against a prevent defense. But his numbers were similar to Wynn, and Wynn played horrible.

    @yankee

    What Utah showed was that even with our QB playing horrible we can go 3-2 against teams above .500.

    How about you? 1-4?

    Stop worrying about my Utes in the PAC-12.

    Worry about BYU, since you still haven't scored 17 points against a team with 4 or more wins on the road all season.

    @Ole Miss
    @Texas
    @Oregon State

    Thank goodness BYU has a WAC schedule to fall back on in 2011. So 8-4 looks about right.

  • Blue Chelan56 Chelan, WA
    Nov. 30, 2010 11:51 a.m.

    Lets bring back Robbi Bosco(Coach Crowton wanted to get rid of Everything that ressenbled Coach Edwards) and the " Real Control Pass Offense " that was signature BYU Football. Jake Heaps is made-to-order for that style of offense. The run option is certainly not made for him, nor is the "Run first, Past last"as currently being presented.Robbie knows that Offense like the back of his hand, and Coach Anae should be an Asst. Head coach in charge of the offensive line. That is really his A+ thing. He is calling plays with that "lineman mentality" Doman is a great QB Coach but BYU needs someone like Bosco as Coordinator of the Offense, Period!

  • AZguy Phoenix, AZ
    Nov. 30, 2010 11:49 a.m.

    I would say this to all the Ute fan posters. First off, why comment at all? 1-UU won the game and sent BYU home packing? 2-UU is going to the PAC10 and is clearly superior to BYU, so why do you care? Just to put the 'BYU homers' in their place?

    Jordan Wynn received the same media love last year after a great end to the season. Don't trash on BYU or Heaps for getting the same love.

    I think if you did not have a inferiority complex about BYU, then you would not even worry about it.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 11:46 a.m.

    utahcountyute

    I'm surprised it took you this long to start your jealous yipping.

    You're always full of hyperbole, but short on actual substance.

    Wynn will finish his career as another typically slightly above average Utah QB.

    Heaps will finish his career at BYU as another typically All-American BYU QB.

    The die has already been cast and none of your whining is going to change that.

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 11:45 a.m.

    Re True Blue:

    What I'm saying is that Heaps did exactly what Cain did to get him benched last year in favor of Wynn. That is he just took the easy throw and never made mistakes but rarely made plays.

    I personally think both Wynn and Heaps will end up to be pretty good, but neither will put up Detmer type numbers.

    The only TD Heaps threw in that game came when BYU started at the U 20.

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 11:28 a.m.

    Come on Dick!

    It doesn't take long for the cougs and homers to start "heaping" on the praise for the frosh and building up next year for another let down. Am I wrong or was it 228 total passing yds with 1 td and a loss?

    Although the cougs are playing Idaho and South Florida Southern at home next year.

    Heisman material for sure.

  • Floyd Johnson Broken Arrow, OK
    Nov. 30, 2010 11:26 a.m.

    Watching Heaps mature has been the highlight of the season. My humble opinion is that he needs to learn when to tuck the ball and run. He doesn't have sensational speed or escapability; however, the threat of a run will occupy defenders on pass plays.

    The early bowl draw is unfortunate. They are stuck with a condensed practice schedule. A bowl later in the year would allow more opportunities for meaningful practices.

    Loaded with underclassmen this year, so the offense is in good shape the next couple of years. Biggest question is which tight end will step up. I expect some of those players will be converted to linebacker. Thrilled to see how these players come back after 8 months of off season work.

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 11:20 a.m.

    byronbca

    You're satisfied with Wynn.

    BYU fans are excited to have Heaps.

    If you did an anonymous survey of who both sets of fans would really want as their starting QB next year, assuming they could choose either, Heaps would win by a landslide.

    If you think Heaps played more like Cain than Wynn, you simply don't understand football. Heaps is lightyears ahead of both of them, and pulling away quickly.

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    Nov. 30, 2010 10:58 a.m.

    Just for the record, the U never even broke mid-field until the 3rd quarter. Mock the 3 field goals all you want, but the U has put up 6 gooseggs when it comes to scoring in the first three quarters the last two games. That's 6 quarters without a point.

    BCS and NC quality there. The PacX called and they want their offer back...they'd rather have TCU.

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 10:56 a.m.

    I'm not saying that Heaps wont be good, but he threw the ball 37 times and only got 228 yards out of it. If Wynn doesn't have a perfect 25 yrd pass to a wide open WR dropped, he probably ends up with more yards than Heaps and everyone is saying how much he stunk it up.

    The fact is Wynn averaged more yards per throw than Heaps and Wynn did enough to win the game despite getting benched and having his backup throw 2 interceptions.

    Heaps was much more Terrence Cain like than he was like Ty Detmer.

  • IDC Boise, ID
    Nov. 30, 2010 10:43 a.m.

    Heaps showed a ton of poise in that game. He was poised with a rowdy crowd and a close game. He threw the ball away when he should and he showed guts when he ran. Things are looking up at the Y.

  • mream Parker, CO
    Nov. 30, 2010 10:27 a.m.

    I'd like to see Heaps audibilize to a pass. Why not? McMahon got away with it all the time. What's the worst that can happen... assuming the play works? Heaps gets a strong talking to? Big deal. Of course, if it gets picked, then there would be trouble.

  • yankee doodle Layton, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 10:13 a.m.

    bigutefan and all utesies,
    So what did your super soph show us in this game? That he is mediocre at best, especially when he plays against real D's. I would take Heaps as my QB ANY day of the week. His future is only looking up, while Wynnie's in the Pac-12 does not look promising at all, and I will love watching him choke week in and week out next year. Try to tell us why he will excel in the Pac-12 next year, and no not just against Wazzzoooo and Colorado.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 30, 2010 10:02 a.m.

    So Heaps was given the edict: "No audibilizing out of a run play to a pass, only a run to another run." So he really couldn't change the play much. That explains a lot. It is amazing Heaps did as well as he did with one hand tied behind his back by Anae. Heaps got them in a position to score on that last drive despite terrible management from the sidelines. If the coach would have let him, they might have been able to score 6. Instead Anae was content to play for a long risky field goal.
    Dick is right in this article, but he says it much nicer than I would.

  • cowboy99 South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 9:59 a.m.

    AFCoug | 8:44 a.m. Nov. 30, 2010
    Colorado Springs, CO

    Don't know if you can credit Anae with those 40 points a game. John Beck and Max Hall were calling the plays themselves at the line of scrimmage. Hopefully he will let Heaps do the same next year or were going to have a few more disasters like the Utah game.

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 10:00 a.m.

    Jake will be just fine and his best is yet to come. ute troll ankle bites don't diminish his progress or hide their envy.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 9:56 a.m.

    We need a fearless offensive coordinator. Not one that tries three runs and then trys a field goal at the end of the game that gets blocked. Just like Chow did, Anae is getting stale and predictable with his play calling. Elevate Doman and bring Detmer up to help him out. After all, Detmer was essentially Michael Vick's QB coach at Atlanta.

  • haunyocker Springville, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 9:53 a.m.

    It is always amazing to read the comments of self-assumed geniuses who know better than all the coaches exactly what should happen and of course, they'd never make a questionable call.

    Heaps put BYU in a place to win the game, but a zebra and three play choices pulled the rug out from under him.

    It was amazingly obvious that Utah struggled all game long, and they were supposed to be the Cougs by a mile. Well they didn't, only a blown call could do that. What's intriguing is what will happen in the bowl game. We just might see a taste of 2011. Looking forward to next season!

    For all you "geniuses" who assume to know more than everybody else, it must be hard to descend from Olympus long enough to expose your pathetic egos to a mere football game. But I know you won't hesitate to assume everybody cares. Sorry, we don't.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 9:39 a.m.

    Laughing at all of the whiney, jealous Utah fans ragging on Heaps. There isn't a single one of them who woulnd't take Heaps for the next three years over Wynn in a heartbeat.

    If BYU's coaching staff hadn't gone conservative after Heaps moved the Cougars into FG range, the Cougars could have scored a TD and sealed the win, rather than risking all on a FG try.

    Heaps is just getting started.

    Next year he will be even better with his increased understanding of the BYU offense and better timing with his receivers. Another Young, McMahon or Detmer is filling the BYU QB position. The future for BYU looks bright.

    Wynn has peaked and has no upside.

    Utah will be looking for a JC transfer next year as a backup plan for Wynn. And with no Asiata or Wide to take up the slack, the Utes could be in big trouble heading into their first year in the PAC.

  • Ted H Sandy, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 9:39 a.m.

    A 1 point loss to "one of the best 2 teams in the country"(zaney boy taylor) is not too bad.

    Heaps struggled this year, but he'll be ok.

  • ute-chute Beverly Hills, CA
    Nov. 30, 2010 9:30 a.m.

    Just keep playing Jordan Wynn. He knows his stats against 6 win BYU.

    1st half: 8-18, 113 yards, 0 TD, 0INT

    2nd half: 5-12, 86 yards, 1TD, 1INT

    Vegas Bowl would have to do something unprecidented, but to let BYU-Utah finish their unfinished business... would be the Utes worst nightmare.

    Send them to the PAC with a good win, or a good thrashing. Either way, it would be good for the LV Bowl, and the Utes.

  • catram North Las Vegas, NV
    Nov. 30, 2010 9:21 a.m.

    O.K. I will say it. Heaps: go on a mission. I know of know "Jake Heaps" exception. As a bishop, I have seen many young men in the past five years set aside their dreams for a couple of years and do what they are asked to do. I love Heaps, and I love BYU football. Don't be like Steve Young and regret the rest of your life that you didn't serve. Now, if there is some issue that prohibits you to serve (i.e. Harvey Unga) then I completely understand that also. But if not, do it!! We love ya brother!!

  • Runner Chandler, AZ
    Nov. 30, 2010 9:10 a.m.

    Harmon, why not just come on out and say what you really what to say, i.e., Anae must do better, must make changes, must get over his disdain in starting a freshman QB...and if he doesn't then Doman, who is the real genius - according to your article, will gladly take over.

    You could either do that, or just entitle this article, "An open letter to Robert Anae"

    Youre not fooling anybody with the veiled references that you make.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Nov. 30, 2010 8:58 a.m.

    Let's see, the defensive coordinator was really good and had everyone fooled so he had to be fired in mid season. Things got better on defense. The offensive coordinator is really good and had someone fooled but he continues slow down the offense...but he's still there?

  • AFCoug Colorado Springs, CO
    Nov. 30, 2010 8:44 a.m.

    @wwookie-BYU beat SDSU, and don't even go there on the fumble after Saturday's call

    @ bigutefan-did you watch the game Saturday. 3 field goals to include what should have been the game winning one. As far as giving TDs away what did the Utah QBs show. That after a blown call on an interception and the luckiest botched punt in college football this season they can drive all of what, 25-30 yards for a td. Please don't talk about the Utes handing BYU any gifts as anyone who watched the game knows the Utes were the luckiest team in the country on Saturday. By the way how did that 2 headed QB system work for you?

    @xpat-you're insane! Fire Anae? The same coordinator who has guided 4 10-2 BYU teams while averaging around 40 pts a game? BYU had to grow into this season and once they did the offense looked solid. 40+ pts against the MWC cellar dwellars as is the norm. Had the D played better earlier BYU would likely have beaten AF, Utah St, and Nevada. No way those teams put up 30 pts against the BYU Defense today.

  • dustman Nampa, ID
    Nov. 30, 2010 8:36 a.m.

    I like heaps. I hope he continues to improve. i have a feeling BYU will get better and better for the next couple of years. Hopefully the offensive line will improve to help the running backs and the receivers will step up a bit. Looking forward to the bowl game.

  • Y4LYFE Lubbock, TX
    Nov. 30, 2010 8:28 a.m.

    On the field he has the poise and resolve, no fear. Those other QBs, wYnn and Cain looked scared. They should be. BYU has a great future, utah needs new QBs.

  • Bethlehem Bob Bethlehem, pA
    Nov. 30, 2010 8:05 a.m.

    As excited as I am about 2011 and beyond, I'm also concerned about the quality kids who are going to leave the program or not join it because of the points in this article. It seems all OC's become predictable after awhile in their play calling. What we need is to continue to attract athletes ( aka Unga,Pitta, Collie, Rich et al) who can thrive in a system suited to their skills and a culture that allows them to grow as men.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Nov. 30, 2010 7:26 a.m.

    @bigutefan:

    Any your mighty utes were impressive in the 17-16 W, weren't they. Take that to your bowl game - it will be interesting to see your next impressive performance.

  • Florwood American Fork, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 7:01 a.m.

    Nice article. One little correction: Hall was in Provo two of his three appearances in the rivalry, and those were the years he won.

  • nottyou Riverton, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 6:17 a.m.

    With a freshman quarterback, and with a team that statistically was one of its worst in decades, BYU managed to lose by only one point to the mighty BCS busting, self-appointed & predestined, National Champion Utah Utes...not too bad.

  • HCB63 Orem, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 5:33 a.m.

    Thanks to Dick Harmon for this great article. It backs what I've been saying all year--that Jake Heaps IS a good as advertised, and that he will perhaps be the greatest QB in BYU history.

    Fans now have three more years to watch Jake improve and guide the Cougars to many, many victories.

  • wwookie Payson, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 4:23 a.m.

    Dick, you are a funny guy. Yes, Heaps is proving he has great potential and those phone calls Heaps received before the game added pressure to his play in this game, yet he still came through.

    Why you are so funny are things like the USA Today top 30 comment. What you mean is that they played and LOST to TCU, Utah, SDSU, Air Force, Nevada and Fl State.

  • bigutefan Las Vegas, NV
    Nov. 30, 2010 12:44 a.m.

    Is leading your team to three field goals really that impressive? Utah gave Heaps a gift by handing him his one and only touchdown when Terrance Cain was inserted into the game and threw an interception which led to a TD to a wide open receiver from a blown coverage.

  • BYU DUDE Provo, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 12:15 a.m.

    Nice article Dick

    Jake Heaps was the better QB on Saturday. I am looking foreword to a Bowl, and Three more years. Independence never looked so good.