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Published: Sunday, Nov. 28 2010 9:54 p.m. MST

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worf
Mcallen, TX

Has our public schools helped low-income children move beyond poor? When in the past forty five years has this occurred?

In 1964, our than president declared war on poverty. Money went to schools,hospitals, and many other programs. Now after spending over ten trillion dollars,we have more poverty and lesser educated people. Our political leaders still wants more funding. Perhaps our schools should be run by local communities.

Springvillepoet
Springville, UT

Worf:

The answer is yes. If you want to talk about President Johnson's war on poverty and the correlation between education and income, it's a widely held fact that education is indeed tied to earned income. The more education a person has, the more money that person makes on average.

However, you are trying to equate spending money in education with lower education levels of people, and that is a mistake. If you are not going to allow for the media, consumer economics, and the disappearance of the middle class, (along with at least a dozen other factors)then you cannot have a real discussion on the decline of education in this nation.

Further, If you want to talk about wasteful spending, then why not compare the money spent trying to educate our children to the money we as a nation have spent on wars during the past fifty years?

BTW---Do you feel cheated in your education? Did you go to a public or private school? Who do you think deserves a basic education?

Demisana
South Jordan, UT

@Worf

When the federal government throws money at poverty, yes, for the most part, things get worse. I didn't see that in this article, though. This sounded a lot more like local people and organizations helping individual people directly. Which does have a chance of working.

Kitenoa
Salt Lake City, UT

Here we go again, "feeling" and not "doing" what is needed to effectively solve the problems in a timely manner. My claim, there exist many "band-aid" programs in the community, heroic efforts to help educate our disadvantage students, BUT until parents attack the problem at the home front... you are wasting your time, money, and efforts on a losing battle (and eventually on the war of poverty, poverty of the mind). Believe me, and I will believe your recommendation, if only 50% of parents spend just "one hour a day" helping their children with their school concerns, and 50 parents volunteered at their school to support teaching in the classroom, PROBLEM SOLVED.

I feel sorry for children with parents "feeling they did everything possible" and yet spend little or no time supporting their students (Token investment, who are you fooling? We get what we put into education!).

School environments should also be welcoming, providing learning moments for parents who are unsure on how to get involved in the education process.

I am a parent too, good luck to all of us!!

EJM
Herriman, UT

Our public schools take everyone. Most parents, especially when students get to the high school level, no longer get involved in their son or daughter's education, or at least not to the same extent that they do when they are in the primary grades. Just take a look at parent teacher conference nights, offered twice a year for 2 nights with most larger districts and still there is only about a 25% turnout. I feel bad for this young man. Hopefully he will have a teacher or two and/or counselor who can try to steer him in the right direction.

owlmaster2
Kaysville, UT

You can't treat teachers and staff as second class citizens and expect them to put everything into it including their souls.
This is a great article but teachers should be paid as the professionals they are. Charter schools, if they continue to thrive on the public dollar have to be governed the same as any other public school.
I'm talking about teacher qualifications, grade level testing, meeting the same standards as the real public schools. Yes, I said "same standards".
Our legislators have to get out of the conflict of interest they have with charter schools.
I wish we had a two party system so there was some accountability. Oh well.... They are your kids. Start caring and asking questions.

Laura Ann
Layton, UT

I don't understand why many of these parents, who are unable to take care of their children from birth, don't give them up for adoption so they can improve their own lives? There are so many wonderful couples who want to adopt. I know this wouldn't solve all of the problems, but it would certainly help some kids escape the eternally spinning wheel of poverty.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Demisana@

The article states Utah uses many government programs to help with education. That is money thrown at poveerty because it's intended for children in poverty. When have these programs worked?

Springvillepoet@

My point is government today with its test and accountability philosophy is hindering the learning process. Yes! Education leads to more earned money, but just like the "war on poverty", government control is'nt cutting it and our students are'nt getting the education they need to succeed.

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