Vanka, I would tell you how you should believe, but I'm afraid I'm a bit
unqualified. You see, as a member of a non-Catholic faith, I am "in a
gravely deficient situation in comparison with those who, in the Church, have
the fullness of the means of salvation," according to Pope Benedict XVI in
the document Dominus Iesus. So how could I be in a position to tell you what to
believe?Really, it doesn't bother me what the Pope says about my
faith, because I don't answer to him. I suggest you get rid of your insecurities
regarding what other faiths say about yours.
To Vanka,The quote that you refer to is What JESUS SAID to the
boy prophet according to the account of the First Vision. Joseph Smith
was just the Reporter,NOT the author of the words.When was the
last time you personally asked God, Himself, about whether or not Jesus Said
those words you apparently don't like? According to the First Vision account
God, the Father, was right there with Jesus when the words were said.God Bless you in your pursuit of really finding out the Truth.
Mormons and Catholics getting along as friends... you gotta' love it!Now if the Mormons would just remove the horrible, condemning words from their
scriptures:You and your missionaries (and every member is a
missionary) say you "love" us and are reaching out to us in the spirit
of "love".But your official scriptures say my religion is
"all wrong", that the beliefs of my Church - its "creeds"
are "an abomination" in God's sight, that my pastors, professors, and
teachers (including my father) are "all corrupt; that: 'they draw near to
[God] with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for
doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the
power thereof."You and your missionaries come to my house and
post on these boards, NOT out of "love", but in the spirit of
"missionary work", which is fundamentally about trying to convince us
of the above horrible, hateful things about all other religions!How
shall we believe you and your fellow LDS members?
I'm encouraged by the movement on the part of the LDS Church towards better
relations with the Catholic Church. This is a long time in coming and a quite a
ways from the LDS view of the Catholic Church over it's history. The Church has
a long history of identifying the Catholic Church as the great and abominable
church and it was even taught when I was raised Mormon (70s-80s). Fortunately it
appears that teaching has largely been dropped and perhaps this makes for a
better environment for repsect.I must admit though that I worry that
this new found closeness between the LDS Church and Catholic churches has more
to do with their common goal of blocking gay marriage than any real increase in
respect for each others theology. And because I disagree with them both on this
issue I find this 'partnership' a little unfortunate. IMO both churches are
holding onto beliefs that are harmful and archaic. Birds of a feather, I
They dont even come close to each other in their respective theologies, but they
do share a right-wing triad agendaanti-gay, anti-abortion, and anti-evolution.
In this goes the old adage, The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
A Catholic neighbor in Anchorage, Alaska made a donation to my mission, and
while serving in Haarlem, Netherlands (19831985) my companions and I rented a
room in the personal apartment of a Catholic gentleman. He made sure we were out
working and told of us of a time when previous missionaries were renting from
him: and when they came in early one day and explained that it was raining, he
looked outside and saw that it wasn't raining very hard so he kicked them out
and told them to go back to work! Another time he had gone out to a local
interfaith meeting, and with great sweetness and delight he told us, that when
he had introduced himself prior to speaking at a round table he'd emphasized
that he was "ROMAN Catholic" as a way of letting the liberal
theologians know where his allegiance was, and then, at one point, when he was
through making a point he proceeded to say something like "oh, and this is
how the Mormon's view the issue..." and then explained it, which brought
even more disapproving looks!
So what's your point donn? The LDS Church has provided help in many countries
where it was needed over the years.Those who cry loudest against
churches who donate to the cause are typically those who don't donate a penny
A miracle in Ethiopia, a book by Richard Solberg lists the agencies involved
mainly,Catholic charities active in 118 countries and The Lutheran world
federation over 100 Lutheran church bodies active in 93 countries. The Mormon
Church is not listed in the agencies list, but their 6 million dollars donation
was really publicized,they got their moneys worth.
Please re-read what was written: "The stunning St. Peter's Basilica
symbolizes more than a worldwide faith and likewise, the Salt Lake Temple
represents more than an international landmark. Two distinct structures, two
different doctrines."Caring for humanity is most certainly a
commondesire. BUT...the doctrines are not the sameas was stated
here. They will never ''comecloser" in doctrine...but can certainly
workwith each other in Community Affairs...all religions and those
without religion can work together.
Growing up in the South Georgia, some classmates for whom I had highest respect
and admiration (because they seemed to be trying to live Christ-like lives, more
than most) were Catholic. Now, as an adult Mormon, I share that same
respect and common goal with Catholic friends I meet whereever I may be living.
Some of us have continued our communication through the years; I think, because
of our common outlook on many fronts and our love, appreciation, and respect for
the good we see in each other, and in our beliefs.
Both faiths are very much alike in how their respective members are asked to
conduct their lives - strong emphasis on family and helping those less
Great article. I hope we can all continue to work together for the common good
of mankind. I love my LDS and Catholic friends!
We are more alike with our faith, the Catholics and Mormons, than people
realize. I entreat the followers of each faith to attend the other's services,
and enjoy the spirit that is felt in both places. It's really a blessing to know
of both religions, as well as others. Once we understand each other, much good
can happen with relationships.