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Published: Sunday, Nov. 28 2010 12:00 a.m. MST

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Timj
South Jordan, UT

Having gone through an education program in Utah, I agree with the article. Left unsaid, unfortunately, is the fact that if education programs are more selective and more difficult, we will start to see teacher shortages. Even today, many people who would make spectacular teachers go another route because they want a career where they're respected and that can actually put food on their family's table.

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

There's one other piece to the puzzle that the author doesn't mention. Teacher salaries are quite low, so the best and the brightest go into other fields.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

More training is a funny idea. Who's going to pay for it?

We talk so much about education. But if these new programs aren't funded, then why even discuss them?

Seek to understand
Sandy, UT

I agree that universities don't prepare teachers well. I disagree that more government intervention is the key.

Make the entire system market driven, and we would see more parents choosing their children's schools, and schools with long waitlists would be naturally motivated to replicate. Teachers want to go where the success is, and would choose to teach in schools where they get the best training and support to do their job well and be successful. As salaries rise due to competition for these effective teachers, a different group of teachers would begin to emerge.

Only when the industry is legitimized by competition and market forces will teacher salaries rise and the profession develop. At that point we would easily see that universities are not the place to prepare teachers, and successful schools would create their own training programs, focused heavily on training within the school, and in cooperation with online learning providers for coursework that is theoretical.

A monopoly run by the government will not produce a vibrant, dynamic education system. More government control and money will have no positive effect.

Chuck E. Racer
Lehi, UT

Unfortunately colleges of education are so in-bred on who gets professorships and in their philosophies of education, they couldn't teach teachers how to teach if you doubled their budgets! They don't know what makes a good teacher.

They are entirely of the constructivist philosophy, which gave us whole language and "new" (fuzzy) math. They try to rename it by calling it "balanced," but they are so one sided and politically correct that they have no idea what balanced is.

Those that call for more training are mostly just those who stand to gain in their budgets and power - the trainers.

@ Seek to understand | 3:05 p.m. Market "forces" and competition won't work in education. Teachers want to go where they have good students to teach. Good students are more a reflection of good parents and individuals than it is of good teachers or schools.

Putting schools under "competition" would push out those students who need the education the most - those who don't have good family life. The quality of our education today is more a reflection of our society than of the schools themselves.

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

To Seek to understand: I have some questions. If teacher salaries rise in the good schools, who will pay the extra taxes fo fund them? Only parents whose children attend that school or everyone?

Will wages in the bad schools fall to the point that no one will be willing to teach there?

If better teachers and more resources go to the good schools, won't that keep that bad schools bad in perpetuity?

Since every parent will want their children in the good schools how do we decide who gets in? If its a truly market based system, the parents with the most money will get their chidren in the best schools. This will keep the poor children ill-educated forever.

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worf
Mcallen, TX

It's law making politicians who effect the quality of education.

Who creates teaching objectives and stratagies? Who created standardized testing,budgets,regulations, and requirements for teacher certification?

Weak education and its costly expense will never be eliminated until we fix the source. Blaming teachers will not cut it.

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