Congrats USU. As for the PAC-12 not scheduling lower conference teams, it is
not true. The Cal schools often schedule other Cal teams not in the PAC 12.
There is no reason for the U not to continue to schedule in state schools home
and away. Except, there program is down and playing and losing to Utah teams
will hurt what will always be the basis of recruiting for their program, which
is and always will be Utah.
Congratulations to USU on defeating the Utes in the Spectrum, once again.The reason this rivalry is dead is because the Utes have killed it. The
Aggies didn't play their best, but they played with passion and were determined
to defeat the Utes. The Utes played like a team that didn't understand what an
in-state rivalry was, and could care less if they won or lost. The Utes
basketball program is certainly is a sad place right now. If the Utes can't get
excited to play USU, whether in Logan or Salt Lake, then everyone from Chris
Hill to Jim Boylen has failed their basketball program.
UteologyYou want to cherry pick three bad seasons from last century,
Truth Machine simply chose to look at more relevant recent history of the last
five years.btw, FAIL on "I guarantee you that we won't finish
like BYU this year:"How can you guarantee that whenUtah 2006-07 11-19 6-10is even worse thanBYU 1998-99
BYU> Utah St.> utah.I love it.
I'm still waiting for the press release that says anyone on the hill is
"too good to play Utah State." That is a creation by Aggie fans and
BYU zealots/Utah haters.Mid-level basketball programs are notorious
for being up and down. BYU was down, now they are up. Utah was up, now they are
down. I don't think it would take much for them to switch places.As
far as the Aggies, congrats on the win, but no one outside of Utah and southern
Idaho will care so long as you keep bowing out in the first round of the
NCAAs.So here's hoping you go on to win the WAC and represent well
in the tourney. But I'm not going to bet on it.
Get this Utah honks. University of Southern California has home and home with
USU but the Utes some 90 miles away just can't seem to find it in there power to
schedule future basketball games in Logan. Yep and the Utes wonder why they are
@Truth MachinePlease enlighten me on which post refereed to 1944?
Nice stats, why didn't you include the 2005 season?Oh
yea because the 2005 Ute team (29-6) went to the Sweet 16 and BYU (9-25) went
fishing.Do tell us all which one of your 1st place MWC teams made it
out of the 2nd round?BTW I looked at Utah State's schedule over the
last few years and found they only played 2 PAC-10 teams which was only in the
tournament and were blown out both times.
Congrats to the Aggies, be thankful you have a REAL coach. Utah is stuck with
the worst hire in the University of Utah history. Boylen got the job because he
made a folder and photoshopped his face wearing a Utah shirt. The minute he
opened his mouth at the press conference, it was CLEAR it was a huge mistake.
Four months until the Utes FIRE BOYLEN and get a real coach. I wish the series
was continuing with the Aggies. But how many games are the Aggies scheduled to
play this year against PAC-10 opponents? Utah is now going to be from that
conference and will be forced to schedule the way the PAC-12 dictates which
sounds like a trip to Logan is not acceptable. I am not sure that UTAH has any
choice in this matter. Sorry Aggies. Again, be thankful you have a good team and
a REAL coach. Utah has two 7-2 centers and they combined for 6 shots and 3
rebounds in 40 min. How on earth does Jimbo not figure out how to feed the ball
to the post and just dump the ball in the basket. FIRE BOYLEN! NOW! GO UTES!
@LonestarRunnerBYU pulled the debacle of trying to play at the
Marriot Center one year and then at the Delta Center the next instead of going
to Logan, so they are trying to avoid playing USU there on a home and home
basis--as of today, I don't think BYU is scheduled to go to USU next year.As for Weber State, so far it is a home and home, but look for BYU to
pull the "too big to play on the road" after the U of U does it. You
are right, as of right now, I can't assuredly say it, but knowing BYU--it won't
be long. Hopefully, I am proven wrong and in-state basketball does not
basically fall apart, but it looks that way. Have a nice Thanksgiving--and GO
WILDCATS! Hopefully, the Wildcats can pull the upset at the Dee Events Center
later in December against BYU, and hopefully it is not the last time BYU travels
Uteology"Regardless of your envy Utah is moving on..."Regardless of your arrogance, Utah basketball may be moving on, but
there's absolutely no sign it's moving up.We're supposed to be
envious of this:Utah 2005 to 200914-15 6-10 (6th) 11-19
6-10 (6th) 18-15 7-9 (6th) CBI Second Round 25-10 12-4 (1st) NCAA
First Round blowout loss14-17 7-9 (5th) versus this?:BYU 2005 to 200920-9 12-4 (2nd) NIT First Round 25-9 13-3 (1st)
NCAA First Round 27-7 14-2 (1st) NCAA First Round 25-8 12-4 (1st)
NCAA First Round 30-5 13-3 (2nd) NCAA Second RoundIt's funny
how Utah fans are constantly complaining about BYU fans living in the past in
football (Utah has no past in football), but when it comes to basketball, 1944
is like yesterday. Enjoy being bottom dweller in the PAC 12 along
with your new "rival," Colorado!Maybe you can throw
yourselves a pitty-party after ever season.
"The Utes and Cougars have no guts. They are scared to play USU or Weber
State home and home--why?"Don't be lumping the Cougars in with
the Utes. BYU has made no such announcement that the Cougars will no longer play
the Wildcats or Aggies home-and-home.If you have other information,
please provide an authoritative source, like an official press release.BYU played in the Spectrum last season and will be playing in the Dee Center
@VeritasUtah might be 4th best team in the State but I guarantee you
that we won't finish like BYU this year:1996-97 1-25 0-16 1997-98 9-21 4-10 1998-99 12-16 6-8Regardless of your envy
Utah is moving on, live with it and please continue to celebrate each Utah loss
as though your team won a NCAA tournament game. Since its obvious your team
can't win in the postseason, 1-6 since '99.Meanwhile, know that
"Utah will always be Utah" but we'll never be as bad as BYU, see
above. As far as the USU goes. It was a great win, they put a
whopping on us so congrats.
"What does Utah have to gain by playing USU?"Typical cop
out from a program that thinks being a member of a "big boys"
conference somehow makes them a big boy.Utah basketball has fallen
way behind Utah State and BYU, the Utes know that, so now they're going to throw
away a hundred year rivalry and hide behind the skirts of the PAC 12 as their
excuse.The Utes are just scared because they know that playing in
Logan isn't just a possible, it's an almost certain loss.The Aggies
are just plain better; the "mighty" Utes are just plain pansies.
(snicker, snicker) It will be easier in the PAC-12 in football and now
basketball. HARDY ha ha HAAAA!The not so ready to play primetime BB
team belly ups to little ol' Utah State.Way to go Aggies!
@VeritasI didn't blame the officials, I made a joke. What I blamed
was the lack of rebounding and Boleyn. Nice to see your over your flu and
posting on Ute articles after we lose.USU just can't get any love.
First, being left at the alter by BYU. Now Utah is going
through a divorce and decided it wants to date outside of the State for a
while.Speaking of talking smack, USU and BYU have a total one win in
the tournament since Fordo Baggins left the Shire for Middle Earth... yea its
taken that long to get one win. Keep the seat warm boys, we'll be
back... hopefully before Fordo gets back.GO Utes!!
The Utes and Cougars have no guts. They are scared to play USU or Weber State
home and home--why? This is the NCAA and not the FBS, where if you win on the
court in conference tournament and NCAA tournament time, you don't have to worry
about rankings and all the other lame excuses the Utes and Cougars are
manufacturing. Duck and run if you want to, but do it honestly and admit you
don't like holding your butt in your hands as you leave the Spectrum or the Dee
Events Center. Enjoy your mighty triumphs over Simon Frasier and Montana
Tech--what a big boy you clowns are! Happy Thanksgiving you turkeys!
Mount Olympus | 10:53 a.m. Nov. 25, 2010 Holladay, UT "What
does Utah have to gain by playing USU?"They could prove that a
PAC 12 team is better than a WAC team. They could try to prove that
as a PAC 12 team, they aren't the 3rd-4th worst team in the state of Utah.Sure, no reason to play.Except to try to prove wrong what
everybody knows to be true.Regardless of Larry Scott, Utah is a
mid-level to low-level athletic program in a mid-level conference.And, since we know it can't be proven on the court, it's easiest to stay off
the court.===Remember, this story is about the U and USU.Let's figure out why Utah is afraid to play USU.Utah will always
i love how the only fans complaining about keeping the "tradition"
alive is bitter utah state fans. no utah fans care because its freaking utah
state. hopefully aggie fans grow out of their little man syndome and just come
play in slc.
What does Utah have to gain by playing USU?Logan is a tough place to
play a basketball game. In the future, if Utah goes in as a PAC-10 team and
wins, it is no big deal, but if they lose, it will hurt them.There
is no gain from playing @ USU. USU hardly ever gets a team from a big
conference to play in Logan, and now that the Utes are in a big conference they
have no reason to play in Logan anymore. It is sad but true, sorry.
re Yarrlydarb...Utah doesn't win championships in the MWC either...the correct
move would be to go to the WAC
Uteology,Blame it on the officiating when you lose?Can
you give us some examples?Utah lost in every statistical
category.The Ute's played sloppy D, are not used to each other, were
slow to help out, and out of position.Utah was outplayed, pretty
much what everyone predicted would happen.Like you, I wonder how
long the U will drag Boylen along.
The hypocrisy of the Utah program is astounding. Now that you are one of the
"big boys" you are going to snub a rivalry that you have been playing
for one hundred years??? Funny what money and a little bit of fame will do to
you.I am looking forward to the Utes falling flat on their faces in
the PAC-12 - in all sports (hey, I'll give you women's gymnastics).Aggies, Way to show the Utes how much more superior USU's basketball program
is to their "storied" program!
It is hard to complain as a USU fan today, but the attendance was pathetic.
Cold weather? hogwash. Loganites know how to deal with the temps. I know, I
grew up in Cache Valley and attended 7:30 am classes in the middle of the winter
when the canyon breeze kicks in. The canyon shuts down in the evening so
windchill could be not have been a problem last night. Thanksgiving? Come on!
USU has a great team, Cache Valley should always sell out the Spectrum and show
the team support. If this is a top program(and all USU followers clamor that it
is)then act like it! Get to the games!
So the Utes are too good to continue playing teams from Utah, eh?It's going to be loooong season for the Utes trying to talk smack with such a
pathetic basketball team.Two 7-footers, and the Utes got
outrebounded 44-30 by a team whose tallest players on the court for most of the
game were only 6'7".Green(6'1") 6 reboundsWashburn(7'0")/Foster(7'3") 3 rebounds COMBINED Pathetic!Tale-of-the-TapeGreen shoots lightsout 6 of 7
from 3-point against BYU; the Aggies shut down Jimmer (he only scored 26), and
the Aggies lose by 6.Green shoots a dismal 2 of 7 from 3-point
against Utah; and the Aggies win by 17.
The 6th man (fans) won the game for Aggies. All those waving arms and loud noise
drove Jim Boylen CRAZY. Come on U AD, keep on playing with USU 1 on 1 basis.
"USU is a good home team and a mediocre road team - always have been,
always will be."And Utah is a mediocre home team and a lousy
road team - have been since sweaterman left, and from the looks of things on the
hill, always will be.Bringing in a boatload of JC transfers is
Boylen's last desperate move to salvage his job. If the Utes don't at least a
winning season, Boylen will be history and the Utes will be starting from
scratch in the PAC 12.Welcome to the PAC 12 cellar!
Utah was outplayed and out coached. Their players just don't match up to USU
players. Big, slow, unskilled post players. JC transfer guard and wing who are
no way PAC12, or even MWC level. A coach who can't coach or recruit. An AD
afraid to play USU again in Logan, and thinks that big timing is going to pay
off. News for you Hill. You have to be good for that to work. Growing up, it was
lucky for the Ags if they beat Utah in Logan. Now it's lucky for the Utes if
they beat the Ags in SLC. We put it to you good.
Re: Brave Sir RobinWouldn't you rather have a good home team and a
mediocre road team like USU, than a bad team all around like Utah?
Dear Utah Athletics Program:New Rule: You are not allowed to act
like your better than everybody else, until you actually are better than
everybody else. Utah doesn't want to play USU because they know its
a guranteed loss at least half the time.
Boylen has to be thinking, "Do I really want to go to the PAC?" Hill has to be thinking, "Will I ever get to make any decisions
anymore or will the PAC always tell me what to do?" Utah fans
have to be thinking, "Will we win any conference championships anymore?
Maybe more money wasn't such a great idea."
Don't make more of this than what it really is. USU is a good home team and a
mediocre road team - always have been, always will be. Thanks to this
phenomenon and some well-thought-out scheduling, USU manages to win 25 games a
year. Unfortunately, they are also constantly the first 25-win team to get beat
in the tournament every year. The sad truth is, Disco Stew has less postseason
wins than Ray Giacoletti.So Utah fans shouldn't feel too bad about
losing to USU in Logan. It was expected. Likewise, USU fans shouldn't feel too
great about winning a game at home. Just wish each other good luck the rest of
the year and move on.
I saw the FT advantage, stil US must have played one of their worst games at
home since they didn't win by 20+.
Give boylen a chance. This is more like his first year as he has been cleansing
the program. There is improvement over last year, so things are headed in the
right direction. Just need to recruit better, which will be easier now that
we´re in the pac.usu is a good team and we hung close for most
of the game on the road. a beat down on OR will help the mindset of the young
I think Boylen has given himself a very easy schedule to insure he will have a
winning record. Granted, I think BYU, SDSU, and New Mexico will spank us without
a doubt but with these easy early season games, Boylen could pull it off and
justify another year. USU crushed us. If Boylen can keep winning "Oral
Roberts" and Air Force types of games, he could pull it off. The question is will people be able to recognize that we lose to every single
39 free throws to 13 for Utah. Were the Utes playing at the Stables Center
against the Lakers?Regardless, Utah got pounded on the boards. Not
good. The official Boylen count down has began.
Some people rag on USU for having a weak schedule, and there's truth in it. But
a big part of the problem is things like what's coming down the pipe with the U.
Why would a Pac-10 team want to keep playing a mid-major team that they usually
lose to? So it's a Catch-22 for USU.But I do NOT want
to hear from any Ute fans, ever again, about USU's schedule. If the U refuses
to continue playing, they lose the right to criticize. That said, I
hope Ute fans persuade U bigwigs to keep playing USU, for the rivalry and
tradition's sake. The fans are the only ones who can swing this, because
directors have no other incentive. Speak up! And then hope your team can win
some more of the games!
So much for the Utes being too good to play the Aggies anymore.
Isn't it about time we replace Boylen?