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Published: Wednesday, Nov. 24 2010 9:36 p.m. MST

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uteBusters
Park City, UT

I see the Ute homers at the DN are coming out of the woodwork.

Utah may be a few plays from domination, but the Utes are also only a few plays away from never playing in a BCS game and losing 12 of the last 14 games to BYU.

5 of Utah's 7 wins over BYU since 1995 have been by a touchdown or less.

Anytime you win by a TD or less, ONE PLAY, can change the outcome of the game.

It's a two-way street Sorensen. We can all play the "what if" game.

This Little Piggy
Bountiful, UT

I always like to see BYU fans like uteBusters who choose a screen name that focuses on the team they cheer for and not the... oh wait.

UteMan
South Jordan, UT

@Utebusters...I think the cougars are about 100 plays away from a BCS birth.

Perhaps the WAC-Lite schedule next year will help.

Snack PAC
Olympus Cove, Utah

It' BCS "BERTH" UteMan.

The Utes, btw, are about a million plays away from winning a national championship.

Dominant teams win conference championships

Dominant teams finish in the Top 25

Dominant teams beat good teams on the road

Utah hasn't ever done any of those consistently.

So where is this mystical "dominance" Utah fans talk about. It certainly doesn't apply in any way, shape or form to Utah.

The Utes, for all their talk, are little more than the flavor of the month; as quickly forgotten as a teenage crush.

See 47-7 to see how quickly that can happen.

Uteology
Fort Worth, Texas

@uteBusters
Keep clicking your high heels and repeating "BCS is just around the corner" and one day it might just happen.

@Snack PAC

BYU dominated the WAC, not the MWC.

Utah and BYU have 4 MWC championships.

Utah has the chance to match BYU with 5 AP rankings in the MWC.

The difference is Utah's average ranking is around 11, while BYU is around 18. Plus, Utah has gone undefeated twice with 2 top 5 finishes.

In the MWC, BYU is 2-22 against final ranked teams, while the flavor of the month beat 4 ranked teams in 2008 alone (two in the top 7). BYU has never beat a top 10 team in the MWC.

Collie was right magic does happen for BYU, how else can you explain 3 of 4 besides miss coverage and tackles by Utah's secondary.

frankie
Sandy, UT

Looks like we got three classy ute fans on here.

Snack PAC
Olympus Cove, Utah

Nice dodge, Uteology, but you still didn't answer the salient question:

Where is this mythical dominance the Utes talk about?

ONE MWC championship since TCU entered the MWC.

BYU has two.

TCU has two, going on three.

TWO Top 25 finishes since TCU entered the MWC.

BYU has four.

TCU has four, going on five.

Bronco has won three of the last four, and three of five overall head-to-head versus Kyle.

Gary Patterson is 3-3 versus Kyle, but the Frogs have destroyed the Utes that last two years.

Which is better, to beat a ranked team, or to be a ranked team?

When was the last time Utah finished with four straight 10-win seasons?

You see, Uteology, even during the best stretch of football in Utah history, BYU is still outperforming Utah in many key accomplishments.

wwookie
Payson, UT

Problem is Utah kept looking past the last cupcake of the season. Won´t happen this year.

When was the last time BYU beat Utah by more than 1 score?

Gordon
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I have to laugh at the homer comment! The trouble that U haters will have is that the article speaks the truth...BUT they can't handle the TRUTH! They would prefer their blue fantasy of being a real National Champion and football domination!

Ripandstrip
Woods Cross, UT

Sorenson totally failed to mention BYU has soundly beat the Yewtes 3 out of the last 4 years! And this year the pendulum/momentum has swung to the Coug boys and we will get another win this year! (although it will be another close game) I know the Yewtes hate to hear it but the COugs, have "WORKED HARDER/SMARTER" the 2nd half of this season and it will show in Saturday's game! Heaps has got his mojo going to say the least!

SportsFan
Orem, UT

"Problem is Utah kept looking past the last cupcake of the season. Won´t happen this year."

lol, wwookie

When has Utah EVER looked past BYU?

Blowout wins are fun, but, how does it feel to have your heart ripped out by a "cupcake" three of the last four years?

The next time Utah wins 10 conference championships in a row; wins a national championship, or a Heisman Trophy, or wins any sort of national individual award, call us,

we'll throw a parade.

(And, not some impromptu thing, either, of a couple dozen fans showing up at the airport in the wee hours of the morning.)

Golfhack20
West Jordan, Ut

I think we need to go back and look at who was favored in these close games. Isn't it funny the team that is supposed to win thumps his chest like he did something real special. That is what you are supposed to do if you are favored to win. Look at the games Utah lost. They haven't been favored in many but somehow make a game of it. Keep flipping the stats to make your team relevant. It can go both ways. Good Luck Saturday to both teams!!!!

anti BCS
Anaheim, CA

Revisionists!

Utah fans seem to spend a lot of time trying to rewrite history every time they lose.

It doesn't really matter who was favored or if it's on the last play of the game or on the opening kickoff,

a loss is still a loss.

Get over it!

Balan
West Jordan, Utah

I thought that good teams, the teams with character, are supposed to win the close games. Besides, I can guarantee you I will never forget Beck to Harline, 4th and 18, LaVell's last game at RES and by George, he's still running!

SMS
Salt Lake City, UT

@Snack PAC and uteBusters

Your insecurities are definitely showing. The DesNews has an article that's not in your team's favor and so you have to start whining about it. All the article is saying is that Utah is a few plays away from winning 13 straight--and any objectional person can see that. BYU cannot say the same thing as Utah has beat them soundly in 2 of the last 13 games.

@Frankie
Are you familiar with the word hypocrite? You may want to look it up in the dictionary. I don't think your comment shows any class and because you are only calling out the Ute fans comments on this board I can tell that you are showing lots of class as an alleged Cougar fan/Ute hater.

Utah will make this the 3rd game of the last 14 which the Utes beat the Cougars more than a TD, Utah wins 34-21.

CordonBleu
Park City, UT

SMS

The only insecurities I see are Utah fans whining about what could have been "IF".

Utah, despite their two BCS seasons, has NEVER been dominant in football.

The article only presented one side of the argument; BYU fans are simply stating the contrasting point of view that the Utes are only a few plays away from losing 12 of the last 14 games to BYU.

Utah fans constantly display their insecurities, by not being able to accept losing, and then using predictions of future success as a crutch to prop themselves back up.

Veritas Aequitas
Fruit Heights, UT

Sorensen, Uteology, SMS...

"If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, wed all have a merry Christmas was a proverb of Don Meredith, former SMU and Dallas Cowboys quarterback and Monday Night Football announcer. The proverb (in other forms) is older."

So take your candy and nuts to the PAC...

And remember...

If you marry a monkey for his wealth, the money goes, and the monkey remains as is.
Egyptian Proverb
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As for me, I will continue to watch the jealous Utes wish their way to a National Championship, Heisman, Doak Walker, Davey O'Briens, Sammy Baughs, Outland Trophies... etc.

If all you can hang from your stadium is that you have been to two bowl games, really, how good is that?

And, how many "big plays" did Utah need in 2008, Oh, Utes will count those, because the Utes are good.

Tell me, how does DC turned HC Kyle let Harline, 4th and 18, and all the rest of those big plays happen?

It was poor coaching, and poor coaching earns you the "L".

Stop whining, and do it on the field.

Unhappy? Get a new coach.
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Anyone catch the score of the USU basketball game yesterday?

Randy01
Lees Summit, MO

Veritas:

Unfortunately Uteology's BYU's stats are correct. I know it is tough for everyone, but here is the bigger picture if you include the old southwest conference:

1. Both programs have winning percentages against only one of the AQ conferences since 1920. BYU has a .667 record against the the old SWC, with most wins coming in the few years before the conference disintegrated. Utah's comes against the ACC, but only one team they beat finished with a winning record.
2. Utah had two outstanding teams in 2004 and 2008. Those years represent their national legacy.
3. BYU's best team was probably the 1996 edition. Their signature came in 1990, 20 years ago.
4. Both have benefitted from weak competition. If Vanderbilt's teams had the same benefit, they would likely have done as well. The pollsters don't see all of the games, the look at records. Utah proved this during this season.
5. The picture only improves slightly if you include BSU. Their last two games against SEC opponents were blow-outs.
6. It will be harder in the pac12 next year.

Enjoy the game, but don't over-inflate your importance.

SMS
Salt Lake City, UT

@CordonBleu and @Veritas

Obviously you're missing the point I am trying to make, so I'll repeat myself. This article is making the point that the six losses for Utah in the last 13 years have been very close and Utah could be 13-0 over the past 13 meetings--that's just how close the games have been.

Listen, last I checked Sorensen and Facer cover the Utes and Harmon and Call cover the Cougars. If you can't take an article directed to Ute fans telling them that's how close Utah has been to beating BYU over the past several meetings then here's some advice ... don't read it and whine about it.

If you want an article by Dick Harmon or Jeff Call saying that BYU could be 11-2 over the past 13 years why don't you write them a letter and bring it up to them.

So let me get this right, Utah fans are the "classless" ones?

Rock Of The Marne
Phoenix, AZ

Veritas Aequitas, give me a break. All you little jealous coug fans have to air your insecurities by ridiculing the Utes on stories that are not about your team; pathetic. Enjoy your mid major independent irrelevance. Regarding your mythical NC that you boast of, you got a gift that year by being the last team standing before the BCS was implemented. If it were the same rules Utah would have won it in 2008. Utah has five undefeated seasons, your little team has one and got lucky (they didn't play a team that was even ranked at the end of the season). Also, why does Utah have a 20 more wins head to head against your supposed great school?
Regarding "Anyone catch the score of the USU basketball game yesterday?" maybe when your team actually does something in the post season again (Danny Ainge is Grandpa) your weak attempt at smack will carry some weight. BTW Utah has an NCAA B-Ball championship and a 1998 finals appearance and many many sweet sixteen and final eight appearances (how about the Y). Enjoy the West Coast Conference where you can beat up on Bo Diddly Tech.

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