Utah, Utah St. basketball: Stew Morrill says Utah-USU hoops series could be ending


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  • CordonBleu Park City, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 10:53 p.m.


    "BYU and USU can flex muscles as soon as they advance past the second round of the tourney!"

    Fans of a team that was blown out in it's ONLY NCAA appearance in the last five years have no right to lecture other fans about when they can "flex muscles".

  • UteMan South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 10:22 p.m.

    I could care less when I get to watch Washington, UCLA, Stanford, Arizona, USC, Oregon and others come to town during the conference schedule.

    No more Air Force, CSU, WYO and hopefully at some point, no more BYU.

    BYU and USU can flex muscles as soon as they advance past the second round of the tourney!

  • uteBusters Park City, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 9:27 p.m.


    "the Utes will get back to top again soon"

    Soon, in geological terms, maybe.

  • Dougedug Henderson, NV
    Nov. 24, 2010 6:30 p.m.

    It sounds like Stew is kind of whining about Utah not scheduling them anymore. Its not fearing playing in Logan its all about money and no team really enjoys the two hour bus drive up to Utah State. That is one of the main factors of teams not flying into Salt Lake then taking a bus. The fans in Logan are classless, that winning team, losing team cheer is very unsportsmen like and it needs to go. But it wont because everyone thinks it cute.

  • Mike Johnson Stafford, VA
    Nov. 24, 2010 6:17 p.m.

    How much is this Stew Merrill's way of motivating the fans for tonights game.

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 6:11 p.m.

    All this big talk from USU fans! I seem to recall that we beat you last year even in one of our worst years ever. EVER!

    The PAC 10 is STILL calling the Utes will get back to top again soon. You can count on it.

  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    Nov. 24, 2010 6:02 p.m.


    "This decade has been one of the worst stretches in Utah basketball history"

    Actually, this decade just started, but it does continue one of the worst stretches in Utah basketball history, with no end in site.

    Utah basketball is dead and the only thing propping it up are the ghosts of Utah teams past.

    How any Utah fan could claim that Utah is still the best basketball team in the state just shows how delusional Utah fans have become with their PAC 12 delusions of grandeur.

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    Nov. 24, 2010 5:38 p.m.

    "Don't forget who still owns basketball in this state.

    It certainly isn't a team that's been owned by Utah State and BYU the last 5 years.

    Utah will be owned again tonight in Logan. The Utes will be lucky to stay within 20 points of the Aggies.

  • <> Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 4:54 p.m.

    This decade has been one of the worst stretches in Utah basketball history and the Utes still have more tournament wins than USU and BYU....COMBINED.

    Don't forget who still owns basketball in this state.

    Go Utes!

  • Ufan Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 4:26 p.m.

    It's a sad day for Utah when the Utes start hiding behind the skirts of the PAC 12 so they don't have to play in-state rivals.

    The days of Utah being the best basketball team in the state ended when Majerus left and the Utah basketball program has been in steady decline ever since.

    The Utah basketball program is in shambles and the only reason the Utes won't be doormats in the PAC 12 is because the PAC 12 is loaded with teams that are equally as bad as the Utes.

  • PJ Logan, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 4:00 p.m.

    I think Coach Morrill is good at getting his guys to play with a chip on thier shoulder and though the news this week of the series ending between Utah and Utah State may not mean alot to the current players it may add a little fuel to the fire. Right now the Ags have far better players and coaches and Utah State will most likely put a 30 point beatdown on the Utes tonight.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 3:35 p.m.


    All those ending long-standing series because they think they're too good to play in-state teams anymore, are the most insecure of all.

    You'd better make sure that's a while flag, utahcountyute, because Utah just surrendered to Utah State.

    The Utes will never be able claim they're better than the Aggies, ever again, because the Utes have already admitted that they're not good enough to beat the Aggies.

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 2:57 p.m.

    Utah Man

    Funny, Utah is ducking competition.

    If U thought Utah's pre-conference schedule was weak this year, wait'll U get a load of nothing but Grand Canyon and Adams State from November until early January.

    btw, how many MWC and PAC 10 teams played in the big dance last season?

    Now explain to us, again, why we should believe that Utah is moving up in basketball competition in the PAC 12.

    Utah's arrogance about now being "one of the big boys" because they're moving to the PAC 12 is becoming a complete joke.

    The 4th or 5th best basketball program in the state, but now they're too good to play the teams that are better than the Utes.

  • HawaiianAggie Logan, Utah
    Nov. 24, 2010 2:53 p.m.

    Utah State is a great team. But heck, so are Utah and BYU. It's a pity that it has come to this. Basketball is a great sport and I'd rather watch it over college football any day. March Madness can't come soon enough!

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    Nov. 24, 2010 2:53 p.m.

    Aggie Steve,

    You're probably right on that. I've been looking forward to this game for quite a while. It will be a great test for my beloved Utes with as little as they've played together. Can't get a more hostile environment than USU, and they are a very good team. I'm looking for my Utes to compete. If they fight and keep themselves in it that is great, if they win that's gravy.

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 2:50 p.m.

    I'm going to have to get another costume because I just learned that the U is changing its mascot to the redfaced chicken.

    My once mighty Utes, conquerors of the PAC 12, are now such wimps that we can't handle playing Utah State and Weber State anymore.

    The only reason we'll continue to schedule BYU is because we Utes would never be able to show our faces around the state again if we tried ducking the Cougars.

    I'm not even going to bother showing up in Logan tonight, because it's going to be a slaughter.

  • Aggie Steve Draper, Utah
    Nov. 24, 2010 1:41 p.m.

    Aggies will make it 7 straight wins over the Utes tonight in Logan.

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    Nov. 24, 2010 12:13 p.m.

    @UU32 - You're correct, I wasn't going back to the Wooden years. I am talking present only (last 10-15 years).

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 11:57 a.m.

    All those dissing the Pac 12 in bball are just jealous or insecure about going to the WCC or remaining in the WAC.

    I hope they keep these games though.

    Let me go put up my Ute flag for the game tonight.

    Go Utes, beat the Aggies again.

  • pocyUte2 Pocatello, Id
    Nov. 24, 2010 11:55 a.m.


    just curious, what would Utah's "just do (sic)" be?

    What sort of punishment or cosmic badness does Utah deserve? What immutable laws have been violated by Utah causing them to their just due?

    As I said in my post, I think the two schools will work something out.

    I think it was premature for Morrill to say anything, but I think it was intentional posturing on his part to paint Utah as the team not willing to work them. I actually take Hill at is word that it is a fluid situation and something they are trying to work out.

  • IdahoAggie Downey, ID
    Nov. 24, 2010 11:36 a.m.

    It's to bad that things have came to this.

    Utah has decided to go of on its own. More power to her. And the same to the Cougars.

    The Aggies will survive and continue to be what they are.

    This is just another good reason to hate the Utes.

    I can only hope that the day will come that the Utes will get their just do.

    I'll remain a Aggie fan the rest of my life.

    No matter what.

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 11:23 a.m.

    Pavalova, anyone who says the PAC is not a powerhouse in basketball does not have any historical context.

  • bgl Santa Monica, CA
    Nov. 24, 2010 11:14 a.m.

    We used to leave early, head up through Ogden, pull into Brigham City for around five. Have dinner at Maddox's and pick up some maple balls at the Idle Isle and then start the journey through the canyon to get to Logan. Saw some wonderful games at the Spectrum and LOVED our road trips. I remember once we were heading through the canyon for a football game and following a trail of cars. Right as we pull out the KUTV helicopter was hovering really low and getting pictures of all of us. Quite cool. I'm telling you--I think Dr. Hill is sort of a genius--but if losing are connection with Utah State is part of some grand scheme, I'm very concerned.

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    Nov. 24, 2010 11:10 a.m.

    When did the Pac-X become a hoops power? NEVER. Outside of UW, U of A and maybe UCLA, the rest of the conf is as weak as the U. Look at who some of the teams have lost to so far this year...
    Texas Southern
    Florida Atlantic

    Oregon is horrible and Or State is no better. Cal and Stanford are tweeners along with the USC. Do not confuse pac10 basketball with football, even as weak as football is, hoops is further behind for an AQ conference with LOTS of money and suppose-ed "better athletes".

  • pocyUte2 Pocatello, Id
    Nov. 24, 2010 11:03 a.m.

    Actually, from what I understand is that Utah ans USU are still negotiations about it. Utah still has Weber St. on the schedule because WSU agreed to play all the games in SL. BYU is Utah's biggest rival, so that will have precedence over USU. Given an 18 game season with those 2 games and a tourney that takes up about 24 games from a 30-32 game season.

    My guess is, the two schools will work it out

  • Tin Man Layton, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 10:49 a.m.

    Didn't know Dave Rose was coaching in Salt Lake now...

  • Jeff ls Farr West, 84404
    Nov. 24, 2010 10:42 a.m.

    Ironmomo, You should rethink your comments about Utah's schedule. Bowl games are not part of the Schedule. They are a result of winning the games on your schedule. Go back over the last ten years of Utah's Schedule and tell me the great and ranked teams that Utah has played on their SCHEDULE. They play the toughest teams each year when they play TCU, Air Force and BYU. Name another team that has been ranked when Utah has played them. Michigan-worst team in years. They did play one this year and it was a good test for them, maybe. I get tired of hearing Ute fans brag about their bowls. Bowl Games are never scheduled. When you are yacken, understand what you are yacken about.

  • bjfcubsfan Wellsville, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 10:39 a.m.

    Hey Balan: You say there is much better competition in the PAC-12? How come the PAC-10 had as many NCAA berths as the WAC last year and half as many as the Mountain West? It's not a basketball conference, which is probably why the Utes will feel right at home.

  • Aggie Steve Draper, Utah
    Nov. 24, 2010 10:33 a.m.

    Utah basketball has dropped to new lows thanks to Boylen who is in his last year by the way. Looking forward to a good thrashing tonight in Logan. Go Aggies!

  • ProvoAggie Provo, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 10:33 a.m.


    UCLA may not be lined up for a home and home with USU in basketball but USC just signed a home and home deal with them. They'll be playing in the Spectrum in 2 years.

  • Jeff ls Farr West, 84404
    Nov. 24, 2010 10:30 a.m.

    See! this is the perfect reason for my long time suggestion. Each year the DN & Tribune and local business leaders could sponsor a four team tournament at the Energy Solutions Arena. The tournament involves Weber State, Utah State, UofU & BYU. The games could be on a Friday / Saturday evening. Perhaps when the Jazz are on the Eastern road trip. It would be a huge success. You could use the event to promote Food Donations or some other worthy cause. It would be the hottest ticket in town. Double header each night. Winners play winners and losers play losers. The best part of all is no home cooking. No team would have a home court advantage. Come on someone, catch the vision of how great this could be. Maybe even expand one day to UVUU and Southern Utah State and make it Thursday thru Saturday.

  • Go Big Blue!!! Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 10:17 a.m.

    Stew rightfully will not play in Salt Lake without the Utes agreeing to come back to the Spectrum.

    Majerous was never afraid to take on the Aggies. Shows how much the Utes BBAll program has fallen.

  • Balan West Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 24, 2010 10:00 a.m.

    Why would the Utes want to play USU? There is much better competition in the PAC-12.

    BYU is the next one to scratch from the list.

  • bookonwomen Beverly Hills, CA
    Nov. 24, 2010 9:56 a.m.

    We need an all-state tournament.

    Seed 1-8 BYU, Utah, Utah st. Weber St. SUU, UVU, Dixie St., Westminster. You add Dixie and Westminster to make 8 and you bring in a Cinderella element and it's all of Utah's college teams.

    The top 4 get a home game at the start of the week. The 4 winners advance to the semis held on Friday at ESA or the top seeds home floor. The championship is Saturday with a 3rd/4th place game also.

    How you finish determines next years seeds. You could even have a losers bracket for a 5th/6th place so all of the teams are guaranteed a least 2 games and 3 at most.

    Lets makes this happen.

  • Hellooo Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 9:49 a.m.

    Love this PAC-12 glow of arrogance. But, the reality is the U B-ball team has been at best mediocre for the entire 21st Century. As for the great PAC-12, it was one of the worst B-ball leagues in the country last year. So, the question is why should an established top 30 basketball program like USU continue to schedule such an inferior bottom 50 program like the U has become?

  • yarrlydarb Ogden, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 9:40 a.m.

    Chris says: "It's appropriate to take a step back and assess where we are with our new Pac-12 schedule next year," Hill said. "It is prudent for anyone in our position. We don't want to rush into anything."

    Interpretation: "We have new bosses now. It's not really about the fans, sports, and rivalries. It's about who signs our 'paycheck' not the fans. So, We don't want to rush into anything. After all, were low man on the totem poll now. It's not prudent for anyone in our position to make decisions."

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 8:54 a.m.

    Noone really cares about Utah State outside of Logan. They will continue to get worse now that the WAC is going, going, going .. . . gone. USU will have to find a new conference. May I suggest the West Coast Conference for B-ball and the Big Sky I-AA in football?

    Why would a PAC-12 team want to play Utah State in Logan? I don't see UCLA lining up to play a home and home with Utah State?

    Just because Utah comes from a mid-major environment should it become more benevolent than its new conference mates?

    I am sure the Utes will play the Aggies, just not on a regular basis.

  • aljmac Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 8:48 a.m.

    Chill out everyone. Utah will still play its instate siblings and remain the best basketball program in the state.

  • Utah Man Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 8:48 a.m.

    Funny, if Utah was "ducking" competition, than they would have never joined the Pac-12. I agree, it is silly and ridiculous if Utah and Logan State do not play every season, but let's see what happens. My guess is that the pressure from the alumni will be so great that the series will continue. By the way... Logan State is not exactly the program they claim to be. Talk about "ducking" competition and padding states.

  • onewhoknows Providence, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 8:35 a.m.

    There are plenty of games in a b-ball season. I would love to see home and home games with the in-state schools every year. That is much better than watching Middle Valley State Community High School College come into town.

  • tron527 Provo, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 7:59 a.m.

    This really looks more like Utah trying to duck good competition than a problem with scheduling. I think most Utah fans would rather see a probable loss to a good USU team in Logan every other year than beat Delta State in the Huntsman Center every year. You can't get better by beating clearly inferior teams. Better to be challenged than to be bored.

  • fan29 Orem, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 7:49 a.m.

    This is sad. Is Utah going to bring in the Mississippi Valley State schools like BYU did last night? Glad I don't have season tickets to go see that. Would much rather see a USU Weber or SUSU play in Salt Lake or Provo than these worthless teams that come to the Huntsman and Marriott Centers.

  • Ironmomo Ogden, Utah
    Nov. 24, 2010 7:35 a.m.

    Utahs football program can afford to be arrogant and schedule teams that best suit their pursuit of a national championship; however, Utahs basketball program cannot. With only one 20 win season and 1 NCAA appearance since the 04 season it appears that the basketball program may be trying to pad their schedule to get to that magical 20 win season again. Considering they will be playing the likes of Stanford, UCLA and other top teams in the PAC -10 is daunting, but dropping in state home-n-home rivalry games like Utah State and Weber State to play confidence builders like Grand Canyon and Adams State is ridiculous and not fair to the fans.

  • alternate Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 24, 2010 5:43 a.m.

    I will say it if you won't Mike. The Utes don't want another hard game in December. A game in Logan against Utah State is most likely a loss. Playing Pollyana Tech at Huntsman is a much better proposition winwise than the Aggies in Logan.

    This is sad because if the Utes won't play in Logan, Ogden and maybe even Provo, for that matter, they will be stuck with PTech at Huntsman. You can't expect the other State rivals to play a one sided series.

    This is sad because there have been many great games between the schools over the years.

    Wonder if attendance would improve at Huntsman if Utah State, Weber State and BYU rotated years rather than Pollyanna Tech and her sister schools.

    Would you not also see great attendance figures at the other schools? Maybe a pretty good proposition for college basketball in the Utah.

    Come on Chris, sign the contract.