Why is North Korea a problem? George W Bush took care of them, right? Defeated
the Axis Of Evil?Oh wait.He didn't deal with North
Korea. He just left another mess for the next president to clean up.
No need to fear. We have Obama in the White House and he'll know what to do.
Probably send North Korea a nasty letter telling them to stop it.
@Patriot: Do you think we can't look this stuff up?"June 28,
2002-North and South Korean naval vessels fought a twenty-minute gun battle in
which 4 South Korean sailors died and 18 wounded near Yeonpyeong island in the
Yellow Sea. A South Korean frigate was sunk and a North Korean vessel sustained
damage.""Nov. 27, 2001--The first cross-border shooting of
2001 between North and South Korea. North Korean troops fired several shots at a
South Korean guard post. Fire was returned by the South Koreans."If you don't notice the dates, they both occurred during the Bush
administration. This is what I don't like about what the Des News lets into its
posts. If people want to state opinons, then state it as such. But the Des
lets in false facts as if they are true.By the way, Patriot: You
didn't say you wanted a war started. You also has zero solutions to the
problem, but just banter.
Patriot has no idea of what he is talking about. CNN 26 June
2008Bush welcomes North Korean move on nuclear programPresident Bush, who once branded North Korea as part of an "axis of
evil," welcomed the move and said he intends to remove the communist nation
from the U.S. list of states that sponsor terrorism.Yeah Bush was
real tough on them.
Scarey situation over in the Koreas. We are going to have to deal with N. Korea
sooner or later. That is the Unfortunate thing. We have a major problem right in
our back yard in Mexico too, and I think we are going to be forced to deal with
the drug cartels there soon too.
Does patriot really know what the North Koreans and Iranians are thinking? If
true, his inside dope would be worth a great deal to the Pentagon. But his rant
sounds more like the usual analysis we get from these self-appointed experts who
learned everything they know about foreign relations on grade school playgrounds
re:byronbcaDid I say to start a war?? I don't think so. Re-read my
post. My point was that NK and Iran are NOT in the least respectful of US power
nor do they respect the US president THEREFORE they are free to act out their
aggression because they know there will be no reprocussions... and they are
correct. Rouge nations are kept in check not by using power but instead by the
THREAT of that power and a respect with the commander and chief. Both NK and
Iran think Obama is a joke and that have no respect for the man. They laugh at
him and his silly speeches in front of the paper tiger UN. The USSR was defeated
by Reagan and we didn't even have to fire a shot. They knew Reagan was a man of
action and they repected him. They couldn't keep up with the US arms build up
and they feared any sort of aggressive action ...so they folded. You didn't see
NK firing shots into South Korea with Bush in office did you. Hmmm, I wonder
North Korea is and has for many years engaged in meaningless sabre rattling.
The military there regularly attempts to support themselves with brash talk, and
the occasional minor display of military "might". This is their way
of trying to be meaningful on the world stage. The reality is, the north fully
realizes it would be quickly devastated should an actual military conflict arise
with the much more advanced military weaponry in the south, not to mention the
U.S promise to defend it's ally.
N Korea reminds me of Argentina in the 70's. Argentina would warn their citizens
that they needed a military government to protect them from Chile. Then
Argentina would cross the border until Chile sent a warning shot. The Argentine
citizens finally stopped believing the military and demanded democracy (after
the military was embarrased by the Britians). In this day and age, why
can't we send media transmissions to the N Korea citizens about the real world?
It worked in East Berlin.
Re Patriot:You're right we should start a war with every country
that threatens us. Look at how well Iraq and Afghanistan are going. Why not
start a war in Asia too? That was sarcasm in case you missed it. Personally I like the idea of diplomacy more that sending us further into debt
by starting another war. I don't know where you were during the Bush
administration but his policy with N. Korea was just about the same as it is
now. You need to learn how to see the world through a non partisan lens.
Well one thing is for certain, as long as the teleprompter king Obama is in the
White House NK and Iran will do whatever they want - when they want - with zero
accountability. At worst they know BO will make some worthless speech to the UN
and that will be the end of it and as the ole saying goes... sticks and stones
may break my bones but words will never hurt me... Neither NK or Iran would pull
a stunt like this with Bush or Reagan because they know their will be actual
consequences to their insanity.... but not with Obama. Expect more of the same
for the next two years. Maybe Obama can practice what he preached during the
campaign and go sit down with these dictators and convince them to "play
nice". Might as well send Mr Rogers over there.
To me the crazy thing is... North Korean leaders keep telling their people that
the United States is going to invade them... CONTINUALLY! WE know
we have no intention of invading them.We keep telling them we have
no intention of invading them if they can just mind their own business and not
provoke their neighbors.Then they go and do something like
THIS???Do they WANT us to invade them?Sometimes I think
they do. At least then they would have a reason to beg for food and fuel aid
from the West.Winter is comming and North Korea is short on heating
oil, and every year for as long as I can remember, North Korea has done
something provocative just as winter sets in. And then when they get us to the
bargaining table we promise to give them fuel and food to stop doing whatever it
is they are doing.North Korean leaders just seem like they have
never progressed passed the maturity level of a 4 year old.