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Published: Wednesday, Nov. 17 2010 12:00 a.m. MST

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Lowonoil
Clearfield, UT

Panhandling is the inevitable result of charitable organization's failure to meet the beer, cigarette, and drug needs of the panhandlers.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

"Suppose that in this community there are ten beggars who beg from door to door for something to eat, and that nine of them are imposters who beg to escape work, and with an evil heart practice imposition upon the generous and sympathetic, and that only one of the ten who visit your doors is worthy of your bounty; which is best, to give food to the ten, to make sure of helping the truly needy one, or to repulse the ten because you do not know which is the worthy one? You will all say, administer charitable gifts to the ten, rather than turn away the only truly worthy and truly needy person among them.

If you do this, it will make no difference in your blessings, whether you administer to worthy or unworthy persons, inasmuch as you give alms with a single eye to assist the truly needy."

~ Brigham Young

LOL
holladay, utah

Obviously, "Lowonoil" obviously has never volunteered at a place such as Salt Lake Homeless Shelter where I've never seen beer, cigarettes and drugs doled out.
More right-wing selfishness from the Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck crowd.

Lowonoil
Clearfield, UT

LOL, that whooshing sound you heard was my point sailing right over your head. Of course shelters don't hand that stuff out. That's why people panhandle - to get what they really want that charities won't give them.
I'm not stongly opposed to people marinating themselves with toxic chemicals if they choose to do so. I just have a problem with them obtaining those chemicals in a way that makes the development of attractive, pleasant walkable urban communities impossible. I doubt that that's a perspective I share with many in the "Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck crowd".

Question
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Before I help someone, I like to know them... and know of their need. That's why I focus FIRST on helping friends, family and neighbors who I KNOW have special needs... instead of just giving money to strangers... the Government... or organizations... and expecting them to do it on my behalf.

After these people I know are taken care of... I give to organizations, foundations and groups that help the needy and do medical research.

Of course I support the needy through my contributions to the government as well... that's not really optional.

LOL
holladay, utah

"Lowonoil" makes a pretty large leap assumming the person on the street begging, is just in it for the booze and the drugs. But this is standard operational procedure of those who call themselves conservatives today who are the absolute best and conflating:
Ie., liberal/socialist/communist are all the same thing just as begging, drugs and booze are also the same thing.
Pretty open minds, eh? No confusing black-or-white thinking here. No, sirree.

LOL!

Question
Cottonwood Heights, UT

LOL | 10:20 a.m.

Do you really LIVE in Utah???

Because you used to brag about living in Live-and-let-live California, and said you wouldn't even VISIT Utah.

If you live in California... You've probably never REALLY work in the Salt Lake Homeless Shelter.

So how could you see them doling out beer, cigarettes and drugs there... If you've never worked there???

I have worked there, and I can verify your assumption is correct though. They don't dole out that stuff there.

It just amazes me how often you pretend you live and work in Utah!

It sorta detracts from your credibility though.

Hannity, Limbaugh, and Beck told me to say that BTW...

Peace
Holladay, utah

Sad to read such childish postings regarding the underserved in our community. Sadder still are those that have such so anger and hatred for the needy that they must label them druggies or leeches while referring to those who care about the poor "do-gooders" or "kumbaya liberals."
Such is the power of the right-wing talk-show hosts and the sad types they attract.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

LDS Lib,

I doubt the salvation army, SL Rescue mission, Utah Food Bank, homeless shelters, or any of the other myriad of similar organizations were there when Brigham made that statement. And the panhandlers are not going door-to-door.

LOL
There are some, not all, of the homeless who refuse to go to the shelters because they are not allowed to drink or do drugs there.

So the best way to help the deserving poor, rather than to facilitate destructive behavior, is to support the organizations such as the Salvation Army or SLC Rescue Mission who know best how to sift out the deserving poor from the abusers and manipulaters. Dollars donated there go further than dollars given to individual beggars and therefore do more good.

If you have volunteered at such a place, or made donations there, thank you.

VIDAR
Murray, UT

Panhandlers steal from the truly needy.
We no longer live in a society where the hungry have to beg on the streets for food.
Panhandling is no longer necessary.
When you are hit up tell the panhandler that you have donated to the shelter.

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