Gladys,if it was illegal why did Salazcar put the vast majority of them
back on the market?It was an open auction, available to any
interested bidders. It wasn't some rigged, below-market back-room deal. How do
you think this crook ended up there in the first place?As far as
reading his "stance", ever hear of Korihor? he was able to convince
many that what he said, though horribly wrong, was right.The same
can be said of Marx. His writings convinced many, but his theories have failed
wherever they've been tried.
Even if Tim ends up in jail, he has done us all a favor.Those
parcels were illegally put on the market and were sold for way less than they
were worth to oil companies who knew how to work the system. Oil companies are
making record profits while still paying their employees pennies. It's not the
oil company employees who are suffering...unless they're out on a rig in the
ocean and getting blown up by BP's commitment to profit.If anyone
would read Tim's stance on why he did this, they would realize he is more for
the values of the Constitution and the Real Right than any of you lazy citizens
who's gut reaction when seeing the word "environmentalist" is to
scream Leftist.The farce is that these auctions were valid and in
the best interest of the people. The Government is pulling the wool over your
eyes.Tim did you all a favor and you can't even see through your
party lines to recognize that.
Tim DeChristopher is exactly what you get when you process young, liberal
leaning minds through the socialist/marxist UofU economics program. And
DeChristopher is unbelievably naive to think that his actions did anything to
prevent "a dependence on fossil fuels". Utah doesn't even produce a
single drop in a giant bucket relative to major producers in the Middle East,
Canada, Russia, Venezuela, etc. DeChristopher is a leftist idealog
who is tilting at windmills, while perpetuating crimes that do well more harm
than he is trying to avert. His disrespect for the rule of law, a value that
has made this country great, is the real threat, not the minute additional
hyrdocarbon extraction that he so greatly fears.He would do more
good if he would just be a law-abiding citizen, rather than break laws and cause
economic harm to his fellow countrymen.
OHBUAre you sure the mutual funds you hold in your retirement
accounts hold no oil company securities? Even if you are sure about your own,
how about your friends and neighbors?how about the poor schmuck who
worked in the equipment industry who saw his hours cut back because the oil
companies lost these bids to a fraudster?How about the waitress in
the local cafe who had her hours cut and saw lower tips as a result of less oil
production?Another article in this paper talked about $30 milliom
pumped into the economy by the construction of two wind farms. You honestly
think oil production does not pump money into the local economy?And
what about the royalties the federal government will not collect as a result?It's easy for you to demonize "big oil" when you remove the
face of the many small investors and employees, not only those working for oil
companies, but those working in support industries.As for the iconic
scenary, you can see trucks driving along I-70 from the Devils Garden area of
Arches; I guess we should then shut down I-70.
To all those lamenting all the harm he has done, I see your point...poor big oil
having to pay dimes on the dollar for public land instead of pennies...I feel
really terrible. Allan - do you really think the interior
secretary's decision to suddenly withdraw the lots after this story broke and
became news was completely unrelated to the attention drawn to it? Mr. Reality - of course he realizes how much of our energy comes from
non-renewable sources...that's the point. As long as we take the approach that
we can just compromise a little bit more of the earth to find more energy, the
problem will never be solved. Necessity drives innovation...if our country were
faced with the reality that it couldn't rely on drill, baby, drill, I'm
confident the timeline for restructuring our energy sources would hasten
considerably.As to the ends justifying the means...that depends on
the means. Interesting you advocate sit-ins but not this (both are illegal,
btw). The possible ends are thousands-less acres of our environment spoiled
unnecessarily...the means was that he "bought" properties without
being able to pay for them.
For someone who has not gone to trial is free to do what he wants to do and get
news media attention. For what I understand in reading, he has now cause the Oil
& Gas company from not bidding on parcels to seek oil & gas development.
Currently, BLM has stop any more bidding because of this clown. I do mean clown
with his own show and showing off. He got my vote some serious time in prison
I hope this guy is doing his OWN PART... driving a Chevy VOLT.He
wore a coat with fur trim to his first court appearance. Oops!He's
a POSER... not a HERO!Postings like "OHBU | 12:20 p.m."
above prove that there are still a LOT of Exremists who think "The
ends_justifies_the_means".I just hope the NEXT extremist
doesn't decide that even if physical harm to others is involved... the ends
STILL justifies_the_means... That's this
"Ends_justifies_means" extremist_mindset that produces results like
Timothy McVeigh, ALF, Weather Underground, SDS, Black Panthers, etc.DeChristopher's actions didn't result in deaths or physical harm. But it was
a step in that direction of "Extremism/Radicalism" for his cause. All he had to do was convince himself that the ends REALLY justifies the
means... whether people get harmed or not for his extremist_agenda... and take
the next_step. And we would have another Timothy McVeigh.How about
we drop the "Ends_justifies_the_means" type thinking???Protest, give speaches, sit_ins, do ALL that... but you are NOT above the law
(no matter HOW radicalized you have become in advancing your cause).
I hope this clown does some serious time in prison.
DeChristopher is just another ignorant, delusional extremist. Does he understand
(or even care) that 95% of electricity in the state of Utah is generated by
coal-fired power plants? Or that most homes and businesses are heated with
natural gas? And that these energy sources cannot be replaced anytime soon? And
even when they can be replaced, it will cost billions of dollars and take many
years, if not decades, to make the transition? Throw the book at him as an
object lesson for all like-minded and self-appointed whackos......
If he was a brave person he would be a man and accept responsibility for his
Leftists believe if they disagree with a law they have the moral right to
disobey it - not only disobey it, but avoid consequences for doing so, because
their moral judgement is superior to laws passed by the agents of
"Amerikkkan voters."Where as a conservative, if I broke a
law favored by leftists, they would throw the book at me - just prior to
throwing me under a bus, over a cliff, and into a fire.DeChristopher
broke the law. Time for him to pay the price.By the way, excellent
reporting, Amy, and a remarkably balanced piece.
This is a great story to demonstrate that individuals need not take the law into
their own hands to make changes in government policy but rather should work
through normal government and political processes to effect the desired change.
DeChristopher claims he had to disrupt the bidding process in order
to protect the environment. But two months later, the Interior Secretary decided
-- without DeChristopher's help -- to stop the lease sales. The Secretary's
actions, which were taken in the normal processes of government, made it so
that DeChristoper's actions were not a "necessity," as he claims.I hope we can all learn from this needless episode.
I don't know that your assumption that "nobody was harmed" is
completely accurate.Sure nobody was physically injured, but there
are often no physical injuries when laws are broken. Theft, Burglary, Fraud,
Financial Scams, etc.... don't harm people PHYSICALLY... but there ARE
dammages.There were financial damages. Now the people who had
winning bids have NO IDEA what the actual price for the lease WOULD HAVE
BEEN.... had DeChristopher not been competing with them, bidding up the price,
knowing he could bid ANYTHING he wants, because he's going to walk out without
paying.That's fraud and theft by deception, plain and simple.Pretend you were bidding to buy a house, land, or a car... and some dope
just keeps topping your bid, no matter what! You really want it so you keep
bidding... and maybe even have the winning bid... then later you learn the guy
bidding up the price had no skin in the game! He was just playing around, and
had no intention of paying his bids!So you have no idea what the
car, realestate, etc, would have actually cost you IF that guy hadn't commited
this fraud.There WERE financial_damages.
How exactly are the ends of justice served by denying his right to a speedy
trial for two years? Did those silly Constitution writers not know what they
were talking about when they insisted on a right to a speedy trial?
Throw the book at him. Regardless of motives he perpetrated a fraud and as such
needs to pay the price for his crime.
Good for DeChristopher. It's always nice to see someone willing to stick their
neck out for a cause they believe in, without hurting anyone else. Without
putting anyone else at risk or doing any real harm to anyone or anything, he may
have actually effected change and definitely drew attention to potential issues
of corruption. He's a brave person.