"We've been doing the same thing every week. We haven't changed
anything," said wide receiver Jereme Brooks. "But what we're doing
right now isn't working."What you're doing right now, Utah, is
entering in to your non-cupcake part of the schedule.
You state in the first line of the article that it was a "surprising"
28-3 loss to Notre Dame. I found it interesting that the announcer on the TV
broadcast did not share that opinion. He clearly stated that the route was
"not an upset" since Notre Dame had as good or better athletes. I
found it interesting that no respect was given at all to the #14 ranking. Yet
another reason that I think both Utah and BYU are making good decisions to leave
the MWC - No respect generally. Both now can earn that respect in the future on
their play on the field and not have to carry the rest of the conference on
their backs (with TCU, who will be gone from the conference within 24
months.)Frankly, I am surprised the Utes stayed in at #24/#25 in the
polls Sunday. With two brutal losses - one from a very good TCU team (But who
CAN'T lose to them by 40 points?) and then an old fashioned beat down by a very
poor ND who had their 3rd string QB in due to injuries? Count
yourselves lucky to even be mentioned.
Well Wynn how about when you run on a 3rd down you do NOT slide a yard short.
If you want to win bad enough you shouldn't be sliding. I hope I am wrong about
Wynn but he seems to be getting worse. First the 3 INTs with 2 in the end zone
agaist Wyoming. Then at AFA couldn't put a drive togather to put away AF in the
4th. Then the ineptness vs TCU and Notre Dame.
Yes, fans are disappointed. But c'mon...Notre Dame had two weeks to prepare for
us. Not one of those athlete's at Notre Dame would even consider playing for the
Utes. While their record is not great, they had prep time and have the players
to give the Utes a game. The Utes are still an emotional mess from the TCU
disaster, but the sky is not falling. Two bad weekends, sure beats five bad
weekends and another weekend with cheating in the review booth going on. The
defense played well against the Irish, special teams and the offense gave Notre
Dame three touchdowns. All this talk about how the Utes will fail in the PAC is
a joke. Utah will be just fine, in fact, they will grow from this experience and
be better. GO UTES!
"This week, Utah is clinging precariously to national recognition."At least Lou Holtz believes in the Utes.Really, national
recognition. Anyone else believe that line?===""We've been doing the same thing every week. We haven't changed
anything," said wide receiver Jereme Brooks." I have been
told the definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over the same
way and ecpect different results.How about changing a few things
up?===A little fire in your heart Kyle, and not the doe in the
headlight look.You have one last chance. Bronco will own more MWC
titles, but you can even the head to head.Stop saying you lost
because TCU and ND are the best teams in the country, or great teams.ND is not. TCU is not.It was the Utes that lost to ND. So fix it.
Nightmare from tcu, Nightmare II and now coming soon III. Are they awake yet?
After two weeks of poor offensive production, it is now officially a trend. It
is time to start Cain, because "continuing to do the same thing every
week" obviously isn't working. He might not get it done, but you should
now be convinced that Wynn will definitely not get it done this week.Wynn could be good, but he needs to play every game like he did in last year's
bowl win against Cal. Don't take ANYTHING for granted.
I occasionally tangle with SEC fans and recount facts that I feel are indicitive
of the annual fawning of the East Coast press establishment that lead to their
frequently being over-rated and automatically and perennially being declared
America's top football conference. In the past, SEC teams, comfortably
overrated at the beginning of the season, have seen the greater falls from and
out of polls completely, moreson than any other teams.While no fan
of Utah, I have been a MWC supporter when it is MWC vs other conferences.
Utah's rise to #5, with their best win being an OT wind over a now 5-4 Pitt
team, and their subsequent fall to #25, with a good chance of falling out over
the coming two weeks, equals Tennessee's fall from the polls (#5) in 2005, and
may even eclipse Bama's fall in 2000 (preseason #3), thus undermining arguments
agains the SEC's over-rated status.I don't really mourn Utah's
losses, except when it comes to the tarnish that spreads by association...
Actually, Lou Holtz tore the Yewtes a new on Saturday evening after the ND loss.
I believe he said they were fake. The week prior, before the game
in SLC he claimed TCU should go to the NC game if they beat the TUN, but the TUN
did not belong in the NC game if they beat TCU. Lou is not a fan of the TUN
this year. He wants to see how the TUN will do next year in the PAC before he
labels them a good football team.I still think the TUN will do very
well in the PAC with the team they have today. Jordan Wynn is a good QB, I
really hope the fans stay off of his back...support your players and team.
Wynn:"I don't really know what the issues are. Something has to be
done," Wynn said. "We have to change something and start heading in
the right direction."Before leaving Notre Dame, Whittingham
acknowledged that quarterback play is something that would be evaluated.Whittingham:"That's some place that we have to perform. I
don't care what level of football you're at, that is a key position and you've
got to have performance and production," he said. "And that's a couple
of weeks in a row now we haven't been able to get as much as we needed
to."Translation:Wynn is clueles and Whittingham has lost
confidence in his chosen starter.Now the big decision:Will
Whittingham pull the plug on Wynn and start Cain against SDSU, or will he roll
the dice and stick with Utah's "future"? Either way, SDSU
and BYU are both good enough to beat the Utes no matter who they start at QB.Utah is falling apart as rapidly as BYU is improving. And its much more
than simply the level of competition.
Still can't believe Jordan Wynn slide a yard short on third down. That's the
type of leader the Utes have?? I would have benched him right there.Cain should have been given a chance. Even if you felt Wynn wasn't the
problem, going to Cain could have jump started the offense -Wynn
needs to reexamine his heart and if he's not willing to put his head down and
get a first down when his #14 ranked team is playing at Notre Dame then he
shouldn't be a D1 QB. I bet his teammates who were giving it everything they
had really appreciated that moment. One of the most pathetic displays of heart
I have ever seen.. okay, rant over..
When Utah found itself tumbling way behind in these games, Why the reluctance to
insert Terrance Cain? Isn't this a no brainer?
@bigutefan:Couldn't you come up with a longer list of excuses for
your team's loss to ND???The "once mighty" utes are in a
real bad tail spin, with some major second guessing going on. All of a sudden
your once great QB is a "loser". The ND loss was critical,
but the SDSU loss will be even more critical.
I was at the game in South Bend. Very frustrating.KWhitt and the
other coaches will have to play shrink this week because the Utes are a total
head case. Who are the leaders of this team???? Someone, anyone needs to step
up and demand accountability.Not sure Wynn has the mental strength
to be a legit D1 quarterback. At what point do the Utes stop looking
shell shocked and start playing in the moment!!!!!!!!!I cant believe
Im saying this about a Whitt team - but the Utes are a mentally weak
team..please prove me wrong.
It was a bad loss hopefully the Utes show up against San Diego. They can salvage
there already good season with two good wins against SDSU and byu. The offense
is struggling but I wouldnt worry the Utes I feel will finish strong. I figured
they would struggle against ND but they got beat bad.
They will be fine, hedgie. One game at a time...
I blame poor play calling for the loss to TCU, and partly Wynn's performance
that day. But they players clearly hadn't shaken their loss to TCU when they
played ND, and that's what killed us there. Central to that was Wynn, who is
obviously getting less comfortable in the QB seat. I don't necessarily think he
needs to be pulled altogether, but I think we need to be rotating Cain in more
often to shake things up. As for the running game, we hardly ran the
ball against TCU, but when we did, we had pretty good success. The coaching
staff didn't adjust their strategy and it cost us dearly. I still believe we can
finish the season out strong, but they really need to get it together!GO UTES!
Oh how the mighty have fallen! It is funny that when Utah was playing BYU's
current teams (last 3 wins) at the first of the season, everyone (including me)
was sure they were worthy of their ranking. OK #5 was high, but whatever.Now that they have actually played real teams (like BYU had to play to
start the season) they are being exposed for what they are:OVER
RATED (clap, clap, clap, clap) OVER RATED...
Still waiting for an in game adjustment. Eight quarters. Please ARod, you're
looking like Anai, Jr.
Kwhitt needs to look short term What QB gives the Utes the best chance to win
THIS Saturday. If he feels its pretty much even then you have to go
with Wynn once again. But if Wynn doesnt stand up and overwhelmingly prove his
leadership and confidence I say go with Cain.What this would mean
in the long term?..I dont know.
Do you think it could have anything to do with the first 8 opponents having a
combined record of 13-36 prior to the TCU game? Real opponents expose the real
I hate to boast about this, but I have been telling Utah fans all year that Wynn
is not a good QB. Ute fans were trying to tell me I was crazy because at the
time he had the 6th highest QB rating. Wynn is not a good QB. Any pressure at
all he breaks down. He is scared to get hit, that is why he slides 1 yard short
and throws off his back foot every time. T. Cain gives the Utes the best chance
@Tom SmithThe reluctance to insert Cain has to do with him being a
senior. Do you hand the reins over to a guy who has exactly 3 games left in his
college career? Or do you stick with the guy who will likely be your starter
next year? Cain might win a few games now, but then he's gone.I say
play for the future. Use these last two games (and the bowl game) to get ready
for PAC-12 play. If you don't think Wynn is the answer any more, then go with
Robles. IMO Cain should be third string.
You might want to check the defense too...
It is amazing (after seeing the BYU mess with the 2 QB system) to read posts
from U fans asking for the same thing.If Wynn is the problem, would
it damage him for the future if he is benched now? You've got him for 2 more
"Wynn has completed 40-of-74 passes for 342 yards with two touchdowns and a
pair of interceptions"While these are not great numbers, they
are not bad necessarily neither.Utah's problems are all over the
team: defense, offense, special teams, coaching, etc.. Jordan Wynn is taking too
much of the criticism. Wynn's numbers were not a whole lot off last year from
what his numbers have been these last two games. Unless Wynn has a
disastrous game with San Diego, I say keep him in. Cain is good, but got benched
last year for reasons. If the rest of the team can put it together, Wynn will
improve remarkably. This is a team problem. Let's don't skew the
blame on Wynn.Let's keep things rational.
Having watched parts of the ND game. I would suggest that the Utes simply have
played 2 well prepared teams, that understood how to attack the Utah offense and
got a little help in the form of home cooking at ND. ND had 2 weeks
to prepare for their D to carry their team. They stepped up. Of more concern is
the scoring by a ND team with a 3rd string QB. Utah's D has not looked any
better than their offense in the last 2 games. The bad news is that
the Utes will play SDSU which has a very good offense and a decent D and BYU
which now has a decent D and an improving offense. Both of those
games are toss ups. It is not improbable that the Utes will lose one of them and
possible they will lose both unless they start playing the way they did against
ISU. The problems are on both sides of the ball. Wynn gets the heat
but the O line got beat at ND. The running backs were not great. The D got tired
(at best). Caine will not fix the OL or the passing attack.
@Brave Sir Robin - you make an excellent point, but I still maintain that they
need to rotate Cain in for some plays and force opponents to adjust. @HomerSimpson - You know, BYU played Nevada at the beginning of the season
like Utah did, and BYU still got killed, while Utah blew past them. The
difference is that BYU's made adjustment, but the Utes are still struggling to
make that happen. As for being overrated, you may be right, but BYU fans should
know more about that than anyone...@Aggie Fan - You are right, that
Cain would give us our best shot, but he's only going to be around for 3 more
games. Wynn can be a good QB, but he's got to learn to perform under pressure.
He's almost the exact opposite of Brian Johnson who seemed to play lousy when
things were going fine and only seemed to step up when the pressure was on.
NC Utes 2010 "We've got 3 QB's who would be starting for any team in the
state.Wait, make that 4, Shaky can throw too."Otis
Spurlock "Congratulations Jordan Wynn! In today's ESPN College Quarterback
Rankings, Jordan Wynn is the 6th best quarterback in the nation. Not too bad for
a sophomore."Flying Ute "There's talking the talk and
there's walking the walk. Wynn does it with his arm and not his mouth. When you
consider he still doesn't have a full season of starts under his belt the future
looks to be soaring for Jordan Wynn! Go Utes!!"Don't see many
of those kind of of nonsense comments lately, wonder why? : )'
Over the last two weeks Ive read a lot of comments from so-called BYU fans that
couldnt be happier about what has happened to Utah. What I cant understand is if
these so-called fans believe that BYU is a good team, wouldnt they wish for BYU
to play their last conference game against a good team, so that they could prove
how good they are? Wouldnt it be a huge boost to BYU if they were to go up to
RES and beat a top ranked team? What if BYU has got their act together? How can
they showcase it now? By beating up on conference cupcakes like Wyoming, UNLV,
Colorado State, New Mexico and now Utah? Is it that these so-called fans really
arent confident in their team, that they need Utah to be weak so that they can
have a chance? Or is it that the hate has smothered any rational thinking?
Its not panic time yet. A loss to SDSU = panic time and SDSU ain't all that bad
either so it could very well happen.
The biggest difference between the first eight nand the last two is quality of
opponent.TCU has crushed the Utes two years running (BYU three years
running). There was no reasonable chance for them to beat TCU.In
the history of football, only 11 teams have beaten Notre Dame in their first
game in South Bend. The Utes had a less than 20 percent chance to win going
in.Unreasonable expectations can drive fans crazy. Take a step back
and enjoy 8 wins. Focus on SDSU.
The biggest problem is leadership. The team needs someone to step up to the
plate and make some plays on the field. When the quarterback is willing to take
a hit for a first down in game 10 of the season, then everyone on the team gets
an emotional boost from it. I don't think Wynns stats are horrible, you can
certainly win with a qb who has similar stats, but he has not demonstrated the
leadership. When an O line jumps, two consecutive plays, get in their face.
Wynn slid twice in the game when he could have dropped the non throwing
shoulder and gained an extra yard and more importantly, showed his teamates he
wanted to win.But, Utah does not have anyone on the team who is
stepping up and making plays when they count. All successful teams have
multiple players on both sides of theball that the team can count on to come up
big when they need it. Utah does not have that right now.
Wynn has had a couple of bad games. Do you think it might be more Whittingham's
fault. Fire the coach before you bench the quarterback.
The frustrating thing isn't that the utes are losing, it's how they are losing.
It's like the coaches are unwilling to make adjustments. Are they worried about
hurting Wynn's feelings or something? If he is so mentally weak that you can't
pull him, is he really the quarterback you want to lead you into the pac 12? Most pathetic play I've ever seen based on the circumstances was Wynn
sliding on 3rd and 6 in the third quarter against notre dame. The team
desperately needs a spark and you freaking slide?!! What a pansy. Grow a pair
and get the first down. I'd like to ask Jerry Sloan what he thought about that
@Shawnm750. You are right about Cain only having 3 more games. That to me would
mean he would play with some serious heart, which Wynn doesn't have. Either the
Utes play to win this year, or they stick with Wynn who shouldn't be the future
it Utah wants to compete from here on out. Wynn doesn't have what it takes. Utah
needs to find someone else. @Barack Obama. If you want anyone to
take you serious, you should change your name, because Barack Obama is a joke in
Utah really needs to play Cain to salvage this season. Next year is going to be
bad for UtahEvery Team in the PAC12 has talent equal or better than
Air Force and San Diego State with 4 teams that have the talent of TCU - No more
Cup cakes. Utah will lose Brooks, Shaky, Wide, and Asieta next
season. Teams will double Matthews next year and Utah will have to rely on
inexperienced receivers, new Running Backs, a depleted offensives line (who is
currently struggling). I predict that Utah will be 7th or 8th the
PAC 12 conference.
This Ute team has a lot of talented players. The problem isn't with the players
but with the play. Whittingham is a great mid-level coach but will not make it
in the Pac-12. You cannot run high school plays in the big league. A
restructuring Notre Dame with 4 of their starters on injury ran circles around
the Utes. Whittingham needs to go back to being the great defensive coach he
knows how to be and let the head coaching duties go to someone that know how to
play real college football!!!And for you BYU fans, grow up. You guys
have a mediocre coach as well. Great players but mediocre coach. It will be a
complete failure to go independent. At least in the MWC you had a schedule.
You'll have a hard time being taken seriously by teams and find it hard to get a
schedule.Ya'll need to get out of the Utah bubble and see what real
college football is like.
You still have respect after back to back drubbings by your opponents. A
ranking of 25 after that is generous. Now go to San Diego and earn it!
Utah's year began with a tough win over a VERY over-hyped and over-rated Pitt
team. That helped propel them as did their run through the easy part of the
schedule. The only anomaly is the ISU beat down. Utah is now showing their
true grit in the tougher part of the season. Now watch out for a tough San
Diego State team and a BYU team on the climb.
Hey Ute Fan 2...Did you know that mr. Whittingham and Mr. Hill both
praised BYU's decision to go independent? As an independent BYU and Utah
continue to play each other for the forseeable future. Otherwise, with BYU tied
to the MWC the annual rivalry would have died. And starting next year the games
will be televisied Nationally.
The offense and Wynn has concerned me over the last 3 games. Wynns slides and
his inability to hit the right receivers, makes me wonder if hes hurt. His play
reminds me of the 2nd half of the Pitt game. Wynn lost his confidence? The
offensive play variety has become reduced, execution is not there and the play
calling is getting to be predictable. Is there a problem with Wynn or are the
coaches getting too timid? I went to the ND game because I thought we had a
chance to win. No offense, too many penalties, 3 big mistakes on special teams
cost us the game. A ND fan commented to me on the poor officiating, which
contributed (and is normal with MWC officials), but we made too many mistakes.
If Utah loses to SDSU & BYU they will most likely be tied with AFA for
4th. If they split, they tie for 2nd with the team they lose to. That wont
meet expectations this year. Ill still be in the stands screaming and support
the Utes, but we need to end the season, winning the last 2 games and our bowl
I want Utah to bounce back and play well against BYU on the 27th. A win against
a struggling Utah team would still be a win but it would be like the win USU had
over BYU. If both had played to their potential, BYU would probably have won. I
was happy for USU by the way and I pull for them every week so don't blast me
for that comment. I want both teams to win this weekend and I want them
both to play their best football on the 27th. I would love it if it were
another close game decided on the last play.
Skyline fan a coach who is 54-19 is dang good period. The qb rite now is
accountable for 4 of those. I like Jordan but he isn't getting it done Cain is
9-1 he lost to a good duck team in autzen let Cain finish the yr he deserves it.
We all knew the Utes were overrated. It is no surprise. However, it is
surprising just HOW overrated they were. I didn't think it was this bad. BYU seems to have a very legitimate shot in SLC. The Utes spoke too
soon..... can't "peak" the second game of the season. UH OH......
K Honestly I don't like the Utes but seriously I have no idea why people would
say they don't have a shot of doing well in the Pac-12. The MWC has dominated
the Pac-10 the last few years so to say Utah wont do well there is ridiculous.
Second Whittingham is a good coach. You don't have a ranked team year after year
and beat Alabama in a bowl game if you are a mediocre coach. That being said I
hope they win next week against SDSU so that the victory BYU will have the
following week will be all that much sweeter :)
Coach give me a call. My mom says I would be a better QB than Wynn or Cain.
Afterwards maybe I can get my own apartment. Go Utes!
To all my fellow Ute Fans: STAY THE COURSE!The arm chair QB's and
fair weather fans (that most likely never put on a girdle or bolied water for a
mouthguard) need to take a step back from the ledge and wise up. This ain't KWhit's first rodeo. Sitting at 8-2 is a very good place to be.
Trust me. Remember back in the day at Rice Stadium when we would have given
anything to be sitting where we're at right now? In a season there
will be high's & low's. Show some faith in the team and coaches and enjoy
the ride. Remember: You should never base your life, or put too much trust on
the shoulders of 20 year-old student athletes. I want to win just as much as
the next Ute Fan, but c'mon people, show some fanship and STAY THE COURSE.Go UTES!
Salemite,What were Hill and Whittingham going to say? You think they would
have said it's stupid? And as far as the nationally televised contract,
Appalachia State was televised. So is Tulsa, it's all about what channel they're
televised on. Without a storied past like Navy and ND have, there won't be the
incentive for BCS teams to want to schedule BYU. BYU will be considered a
tune-up team. BCS teams want to play teams that will bring an audiance with
them. BYU's audience is small comparatively. BYU will play teams like Hawaii,
Montana State, USU, and Idaho. Also, the BYU/Utah games would have still
been played no matter which conference they were in. It's called non-conference
@bigutefan:Sorry buddy, but comparing your team to the BYU team you so
despise as a means of justifying your fall from grace is just pathetic. That BYU
has had a poor showing does not make you look better. Something is wrong on the
hill and you know it. I think the Utes are far better than the numbers show
lately, but better fix it before it gets uglier.Wynn got shell shocked by TCU
just like BYU did a couple years ago and hasn't recovered. Whitt should have got
him out of there before they got in his head, but he didn't and I wonder if the
kid will ever be the same again.Eating smack is a lot tougher than
dishing it, isn't it?
@Shawnm750The Utes didn't play Nevada this year.
"Without a storied past like Navy and ND have, there won't be the incentive
for BCS teams to want to schedule BYU."Wishful thinking on the
part of another BYU hater, but BYU's future schedule will be filled with
home-and-home games with big name teams from across the country.Texas, Notre Dame, Georgia Tech and West Virginia all scheduled BYU within a
month after BYU announced its independence. With ESPN as a
scheduling partner, BYU won't have any trouble scheduling big name teams. The
Cougars' biggest concern will be striking a balance between playing enough big
name teams to make a statement, while still having enough winnable games, to
@MAFUI've checked out. I'm competitive and I don't see any fight in
these kids. I can root for my team when they compete and play hard but I can't
get excited about a team that lays down and dies.Jordan Wynn sliding
a yard away from a first down is a perfect metaphor for how much pride and fight
this team has. Not that he holds all the blame. There were plenty of pathetic
mistakes to go along with his.If they can pull it together, great.
But I think they're done. The TCU debacle damaged them. At this point there is
nothing left to play for other than pride, and honestly I don't think they have
Just to set the record straight:Utah played UNLV (University
of Nevada Las Vegas)BYU played both UNLV (University of Nevada
Las Vegas) and UNR (University of Nevada Reno)Both BYU and
Utah easily handled UNLVUtah in the early part of the schedule, BYU in the
latter.UNR ran roughshod over BYU in the early part of the schedule.
Hey BYU fans listen up. Utah has 8 wins! you have no room to talk because you
are .500 right now and beat the same teams we did. So for you to call us over
rated at 5 is non sense. WE beat the teams we were supposted to have and with
the help of all the other teams in the top 25 losing allowed us to move up. So
if you have a problem with why we were ranked so high its cuz youre jealous of
Utah. dont deny it and say that youre not. We will see you At RES and show you
why WE ARE THE BEST TEAM IN THE STATE,CONFERENCE AND WHY WE GOT INVITED TO THE
PAC-10 INSTEAD OF YOU COUGARS.. ENOUGH SAID
To all you Delusional Ute fans that think a good ND team showed up to beat you.
That somehow their two weeks of preparation propelled them to a 28-3 massacre.
Have any of you watched a ND game this year? They were beaten
by both Navy and TULSA leading up to you.I am not saying ND does not
have a good team, because they do. They have a better team than the Utes. But
stop talking like that means anything. The Utes are WEAK. Western Michigan gave
the Irish a better game than you. Some humility from the Utes would be nice.
Actually acknowledging and accepting that they have been destroyed by two BETTER
teams. The #5 ranking was a huge fluke. As Kirk Herstreit said sunday night.
Utah was a fake team. Playing and beating up on cupcakes to make them look
impressive. It's gonna be a long fall for the Utes. Losing 4
straight. SDSU-44Utah-20BYU-35Utah-31Mark that down.
@HomerSimpson BYU was playing real teams like: Utah State 31
BYU 16Get a clue (clap, clap, clap, clap) then come back and post
(clap, clap, clap, clap).@Aggie Fan | 11:40 a.m. Nov. 15, 2010 "@Barack Obama. If you want anyone to take you serious, you should change
your name, because Barack Obama is a joke in itself!"Speaking
of joke, besides BYU (see above) who else takes Aggie football seriously.
"WHY WE GOT INVITED TO THE PAC-10 INSTEAD OF YOU COUGARS"Isn't that a no-brainer? It has nothing to do with football. You'll know
what I mean when you get a little older.
I have to wonder if Utah is cut out for the week in and week out schedule of the
PAC10 next year? It's one thing to play 2-3 tough games a year but next year
there will be no rest. Each week they will have to be ready physically and
emotionally with no cup cakes on the schedule. I doubt Colorado will win a game
next year and I have to wonder if Utah is capable of finishing at least...in the
middle of pac?
All of a sudden we have a bunch of arm chair coaches. This is just the way
football is.Back in the 1970's, the Dallas Cowboys played the L.A.
Rams twice in three weeks. Both teams won big. Who knows if Notre Dame could
beat the Utes next week if they played again or if Utah State would beat the
Wow- are you kidding me? Some posters on here actually calling for the coach's
job already. Things are not pretty in uteville.In the meantime, I
will excitingly await the weekend when my 2 favorite teams (this weekend) will
win big again- BYU over new mexico and sdsu (who I really don't like all that
much) over utah.So- it sounds to me, also, that many of the ute fans
who thought that BYU would gladly trade Heaps for wynn earlier in the year are
now re-thinking their decision on that one also. I'm sure if you just look at
the 3-4 cream-puffs on the schedule that made wynn the #6 qb in the country,
Heaps would now be ranked higher. He started slow, but he's coming on strong
(sorry, can't say that for your man).
Nice article Dirk, stating some very obvious facts: Utes play a bunch of patsies
in between 2 very close games w/ Pitt and AFA, only to get shellacked against
better competition. What I don't understand is why so many Ute fans sit there in
bewilderment over the result of the last 2 debacles against ND and TCU. I for
one thought for sure that they would beat Notre Dame...but since they fell flat
on their face, makes me think that they'll lose big at SDSU, and most likely to
BYU as well (based off of how close SDSU came on Saturday, and how well BYU
(defensively played) 3 weeks ago, both on the road I might add.If I
were a Ute fan, I would be very concerned right now, as to whether they win
again this year :0( If they lose out, and end up playing in the New Mexico
bowl, against either Fresno or Hawaii, who BTW have great offensive
teams...Utah's LB corp is pretty sad, especially against a 3rd string true
freshman, that made his first career start, and promptly connects on 3 TD's!!
Scary times on the hill...
It sure appears that Utah and BYU's seasons are exact opposites...both losing
big to their tough opponents, and beat-up their weak opponents. The only
difference, is that BYU is peaking towards the end, vs. Utah's decline at the
end. Yes, BYU lost 4 in a row, 3 of the 4 coming at the hands of ranked (or
nearly ranked) opponents, all on the road...except for USU and Notre Dame, both
crappy teams. Utah's couldn't have picked a worse time to fall on their
collective faces, with a dangerous SDSU team that is 7-3, on the road, and a
suddenly awesome BYU team that is licking their collective chops for a piece of
Ute-hide, when both are preparing to make the jump to bigger and better things.
Utes are on the decline, and lose many to graduation, where as BYU has virtually
all of their skilled players on both sides of the ball returning...Oh how the
winds of change come so abruptly! Nice to be a Coog, and dang uncertain to be a
Ute...Looking forward to November 27th!
BYU fan here...but I am not feeling confident about the upcoming BYU/Utah game.
The same logic applies to BYU that is being applied to Utah. BYU played tough
teams to start the season and really struggled because BYU is not a great team
this year. Utah played weak opponents and had a good record...until they began
playing tough opponents. It seems to me that BYU and Utah have both
beat bad teams (except for BYU getting destroyed by Utah State) and have both
been beat up by great teams. So where does that leave predictions for the
BYU/Utah rivalry game? I hope BYU wins it and has 4 out of the last
5 under their belt. But I am not very confident. Just hoping.
Whit,Play the QB that gives you the best chance to win this Saturday
- not the one you think needs his ego protected for next season.Here
is a direct quote from your starting QB "I don't really know what the
issues are." Jordan is lost out there!
I am truly baffled at how uninspired and heartless Utah suddenly plays. You can
talk all you want about Jordan Wynn, and in many ways i agree, but i completely
blame the coaching staff for Utah's collapse. Something HAS TO change on the
offensive coaching staff. I heard a quote recently from a tcu defender about how
the defense knew what was coming every single play from the utah offense. That's
insulting. In my opinion, not that it matters AT ALL, Utah should
fire, or demote both co-offensive coordinators and bring in somebody who TRULY
knows how to run the spread, and they should start Terrance Cain the final 2
games of the season. Guaranteed he wont do any worse than Wynn, and he might
actually bring a spark and a run pressence to the offense. Not to mention it's
his senior season. Might as well give him a shot.
As for byu-Greg's first coment, I full heartedly agree, as a completely red
blooded Ute fan, that Utah has NO business being ranked anymore. I think that
they are getting Pac 12 respect since voters know they are gonna be there next
year.As far as your comment about Utah and Byu "carrying the
MWC on their backs"?? Get real man. As terrible as Utah looks lately, Byu
is even worse. Tcu is the class of the conference. Despite Utah going to the Pac
12, (and Byu's TERRIBLE last ditch effort plan to go independent) Tcu is in a
completely different class than the utes and cougs. It was a good
call for utah to leave the conference, BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE PAC 12 NOW! It
was a good idae for Byu to leave the conference because now they don't have to
get POUNDED by Tcu and Bsu (and possibly Air Force like this year) every year
and finish 3rd or 4th every year in the MWC
The Offensive Coordinator needs to re read offensive football 101...Run the
FOOTBALL to set up the pass... Run UTES Run...
UteinIdahoYou are so short-sighted it's comical. TCU has had some
recent success in football, but TCU's fan base is pitiful. There's a good chance
the Rose Bowl will pass on the Frogs, even with an undefeated season, simply
because the Frogs would be lucky to bring 10,000 fans to the game.Last year when BYU and Oklahoma played in Jerry Jones Stadium, the stadium was
packed.This year, with TCU practically playing a home game, there
were at least 20,000 empty seats.The BYU fan base is by far the
largest in the conference and it's been BYU's consistent success in football and
basketball that has helped build the stature of the MWC. If not for Craig
Thompson's ill conceived television contract and his complete unwillingness to
try to improve it, BYU would most likely have stayed in the MWC.Utah's fan base is the second largest in the conference and will also be
sorely missed.That loud sucking sound you hear is the advertising
revenue that will disappear from the MTN. when BYU and Utah are gone.
I hope the Utes can figure things out.. It's pretty sad actually. I hope they
can find a leader by Saturday. Go Utes!
It´s easy to sit back and be Monday morning quarterback, but now that
there are some trends showing up, the best thing the utes can do is switch some
stuff up. It obviously can´t lead to any worse results. No. 1
> Run the ball more. The running game has been doing well despite detractors
that think running backs getting 50 yards on 12 carries is a bad thing. No. 2 > Don´t stick with a QB who has shown he cannot handle
the pressure. If he is worth his salt, taking him out will only make him work
harder. If he is weak and this destroys his confidence, then it is better to be
without him anyway.No. 3 > the defense is now all too
predictable. Need to throw in something new or just simply play more zone. It is
the single back coverage that has killed us. We don´t have Sean Smith and
Brice McCain in the backfield anymore. Time to relook at the blitz packages.Utes have talented players and coaches. It´s time to show it.Go Utes!!!