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Published: Sunday, Nov. 14 2010 1:39 a.m. MST

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Utah Girl
Vernal, UT

I wish the media could be re-educated, and the evangelicals would keep their twisted comments to themselves. Mitt would make a great president. He's smart, he's very experienced, especially in financial matters, and I believe he would do a good job if given a chance.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

He's mormon.

Catholics, Jews, Muslims, and Evangelicals didn't vote for him. That's why he lost. Enough said.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

A gallup poll showed that people in general are more willing to vote for a mormon than a 72 year old (mccain) so it's probably something else than merely anti-mormon stuff. Maybe Republicans didn't like Romney-care (after all, it's very similar to Obama-care), or the fact he's called himself more liberal than Ted Kennedy. Maybe he lost because of his perceived total flip-flop on issues. If you want a key factor, then look at that.

BrentBot
Salt Lake City, UT

Mitt Romney has the right qualifications (the only one with non-governmental (Bain, Olympics) leadership experience, a deep-seated faith, a vision for this country's future, and an exemplary personal and family life. He won most of the 2008 GOP debates.

Mitt has the organizational skills to help run a campaign in the general election and run the country. Mitt, who believes in free enterprise, would appeal to the Independents and some Democrats for his unique qualifications in these times of economic disaster brought on by the Democratic Party

With regard to the "cult" issue, Mitt believes in a First Century Jesus Christ, not a Fourth Century (Creedal) Jesus Christ. Mormons have a better understanding of Christianity than any other denomination, according to a 2010 Pew Forum poll.

11 of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were non-Trinitarian Christians. Those who insist on a narrow definition of Christianity are doing our Republic an injustice.

Elk Hair Caddis
Sandy, UT

My wife and I were leaning toward Huckabee but that all ended with his bigoted comments about Mormons, Satan, and Christ. There are good and bad people of all faiths. What makes a "Christian" is how they treat others not how their beliefs are different from others.

eastcoastcoug
Danbury, CT

I am sure the anti-Mormon angles were a major factor in derailing Mitt. But he also did not run a stellar campaign that grabbed voter's hearts or minds. In a year when voters were leaning more moderate, he was a newly born conservative. He is not a compelling speaker but whatever he channeled in his dropping-out speech seemed to have more passion and come from the heart.

Romney should run on his strengths which are exactly what the country needs: a smart "turnaround" business-savvy leader who will do what he says (unlike Obama) and get us back on track with a balanced budget through reduced taxes, smart healthcare legislation and a Reagan-like sense of values.

If people were to see Romney and his family under the spotlight again as a leading contender or as President, much of the prejudice would melt away.

Esquire
Springville, UT

I have no reason to dispute this study, but it is only one factor among many as to why Romney did not succeed in 2008. The study is incomplete and presents only one slice of what happened. Romney did not connect with the voters for many reasons. He seemed stiff and less than authentic. He cannot connect to the middle class because he came from the privileged class. He has a history of flip-flopping and his positions were never clear. And in listening to his speeches since 2008, I'm not sure any of that changes. If he pulls a McCain and tries to be something he is not, he will lose again. I have my views on how he should present himself, and it is not in running from his record.

Billcarson
Mattapoisett, Ma

Look at the ongoing oil spill property damage lawsuit Mitt left behind in Massachusetts !

Mitt Romney was the 70th Governor of Massachusetts from Jan 2,2003 to Jan 4,2007. During his one term the Buzzards Bay oil spill happened during April 2003 .

On April 27, 2003, eight years ago the Bouchard Barge B-120 hit an obstacle in Buzzards Bay, creating a 12-foot rupture in its hull and discharging an estimated 100,000 gallons of No. 6 oil. The oil is known to have affected an estimated 90 miles of shoreline, killed 450 numerous bird species, and recreational use of the bay, such as shell fishing and boating.

Since the 2003 oil spill the US Coast Guard has appealed the 2004 Massachusetts Oil Spill Prevention Act and one Massachusetts property damage lawsuit has dragged on for eight years. Republican Mitt Romney is laying the groundwork for a possible White House campaign in 2012, hiring a team of staff members and consultants.

John C. C.
Payson, UT

With Mitt Romney it wasn't just about religion. But when the Latter-day Saints are portrayed negatively in the media it says more about the media than it does the Church. Since the truth is its own defense, fair-minded people eventually learn whom to trust.

I haven't heard much about Senator Reid's membership in the Church being used against him.

Cats
Provo, UT

Every intelligent person reserves the right to change his/her mind. Unfortunately, that has become characterized as flip-flopping for Mitt Romney.

In addition, Massachussetts health care was passed by the legislature and many provisions were vetoed by Mitt. His veto was over ridden. He didn't agree with many provisions of the law. However, that's a subtle distinction that most people can't seem to get.

I hope he can be elected president. Things are so desperate now that we really need a man like him to get our country out of the mess that Obama has created. However, religious bigotry is a very hard thing to overcome. I hope he can do it.

Reasonable Person
Layton, UT

Yes, Mitt has business experience (and so did his Deputy Dawg, Meg Whitman).

Government is not a business.

You can't bust up the government, sell off the debris, and then re-incorporate it in a tax haven like the Cayman Islands.

Mitt would be great at outsourcing the government to India.

As an LDS friend of ours said "I'm not voting for him because he's Mormon."
But said friend knew nothing about Romney, other than the 2002 Olympics.

He knew nothing about Mitt's liberal record as a governor, or his health care legislation.

Bebyebe
UUU, UT

He's a flip-flopper.

He's mormon.

NorthboundZax
Makanda, IL

Perpetuating the notion of Mitt - JFK parallel speeches is one instance where the media ironically paints it in Mitt's favor. However, the two speeches were perpendicular, rather than parallel. JFK explained in no uncertain terms that he would not be swayed by religious leaders in governing the country. In contrast, Mitt's main point was how central his faith was to governing - a faith that puts a lot of emphasis on listening to ecclesiastical leaders. For those that judge (rightly or wrongly) a Mormon POTUS as something to be wary of, his speech magnified the concern.

History Nut
Cedar Hills, UT

George Romney didn't suffer at all because of his religion. He got killed by the press when he switched his position on Viet Nam saying he was "brainwashed" by the Generals. The media cartoonists had a field day with soapsuds around Romney's head and Romney never recovered. Of course, he was right about Viet Nam.

As opposed to his dad who was widely admired for his straight talk, Mitt comes across as willing to say and be anything just to get elected.

Howard Beal
Provo, UT

No money, private or public need to be wasted here on a project or study. Mitt (or Huntsman if he ran) is a Mormon and that just doesn't jive with the Evangelicals. I've always wondered why Mormons are determined to stay with this party when they viewed as the evil step children at Thanksgiving dinner, relegated to the kiddie table in the basement.

Richie
Saint George, UT

Fantastic article, but the writers forgot MaCains give away of primary votes to Hickabee in Virgiania just to torpedo Romney. They also didn't discuss the Salt Lake Winter Olympics where MaCain was the driving force to make us look bad including the trial of the Olympic Committee leaders. It took the jury 30 minutes to come back with a not guilty verdict. I wish Fox News would dump Hickabee.

jimhale
Eugene, OR

As a Latter-Day Saint, I was torn during the 2008 presidential campaign.

I would have liked to support someone of my faith for President. Governor Romney's family was a plus. At the time, I liked his efforts on health care in Massachusetts.

But I found his flips on issues very disappointing. Being successful as an elected leader in his state probably means you need stands on issues that might not help you with the GOP base.

But when your views when running in that home state do not jibe with LDS doctrine and then you modify those to be successful with the national GOP base, it creates a problem for you with voters of all stripes...including Latter Day Saints.

I supported McCain.

Then McCain selected Palin. Big Mistake.

He should have chosen Romney. It's the economy, Stupid.

But McCain couldn't bring himself to get past his own anti-Mormon attitudes....or disdain for Mitt's rise to prominence following the Salt Lake Olympics.

You see, McCain, whose Senate committee had to approve the funds to bail Salt Lake out of the Corruption City Games, felt it was he who saved the Olympics -- not Mitt.

Cats
Provo, UT

Mormons are heavily Republican because they believe in the conservative principles of the Republican Party. Evangelicals do NOT control the party, they are just one group of people who also tend to be Republican....and they are NOT the majority.

I guess it's hard for a Democrat to understand this since Democrats are just a motley crew of special interest groups who are each out to get what they can. Republicans are a group of people who are guided by principles they believe in.

Whether or not Evangelicals like Mormons is irrelevant. It's principle that keeps most Mormons in the Republican column.

jmort
SLO, CA

Mitt needs to do one simple thing to be electable: switch political parties. This would be one of his more minor flip-flops.

SLMG
Murtoa Australia, Victoria

REF: Cats 7:57am
Obama did not create the financial mess that the country is in, he inherited it. It is going to take more than one term of the Presidency regardless of who holds the office to clean up that inherited mess.
Everyone is goes on about what a great financial manager Romney is, they should do a little research and they will find he is not a builder but a raider of companys. Romney is known for taking a company striping it bare, rebuilding to the satisfaction of the bankers and leaving many of the employees on the street with no job. Romney does not connect with middle America. Before someone points out my address is in Australia, let me asure you I am an American citizen with blood that runs red, white & blue.

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