@ scoreboardYour comment was about my #3 regarding beating 1 more
BCS team (2 if Notre Dame counts). Since the BCS concept became reality Utah
has beaten more teams from a BCS conference than any other non-BCS conference
team has. This is an achievement over something like a decade!!! Hope that
clears up my comment!!I should add another goal that would be
acomplished by Utah winning their next four games.Not one team in
division one football, who has played in 10 or more bowl games, has a winning
percentage over 70%. Not one - other than Utah!!! If Utah wins a bowl game
this year their winning percentage is OVER 80% Eighty percent!!!Do
Utah lost a game.Its really not the end of the world people.Utah still has an 8-1 record, with a loss to the #3 team in the country. I don't see how this makes Utah a bad team. Utah is not a top 5 team. I
can live with that.Utah still has the opportunity to have a GREAT season
with up to 12 wins. Even if they really fell apart in the last 4 games and
went 2-2 the rest of the way they'd still finish 10-3. Unless BYU wins out
they will finish .500 or worse. I'm thrilled that Utah football has gotten so
good that 1 loss makes fans feel let down. BYU fans should be so lucky.
Wow how far the once mighty have fallen. The BYU football fans used to revel in
10 win seasons, conference championships, a win against their in state rival and
an occasional win against the Top college football programs.Now it's
their rivals single loss and some creative comparative score accounting that
gets them excited. Couple that with a loss to Utah State and a 4 and 5 record
and it's just plain sad and pathetic.Please go back to your empty
BYU articles and start raging on the Ute fans obsession with BYU before its to
late an you become what you hate. Heck it might be to late judging from the
number of BYU fan posts on the Utah articles these days.
I posted on "the U hopes to rebound..." article and wanted to
follow-up, but we're only allowed 2 post per article (stupid Des News)! I
predicted Utah losses with ND, SDSU, and BYU. To back my words, or as my daddy
used to say, "put your money where your mouth is!" I will donate
$1,000 to the Wounded Warrior Fund, provided ofcouse I am wrong and the Des News
post this!!! I will send reciept to Des News for verification, which they can
post. Any takers for this great cause. How about you Hedgie and SoCalUte?
This isn't a team loss. This is the coaches fault. The Utes went into the TCU
game with no game plan and pretty much accepted the fact that since they were
ranked so high they could hang with TCU. Whit had a full year to prepare for
this game after they were blown out last year in Texas and he thought a couple
of days were all they needed. You know Coach Patterson was preparing all year
cvguyYou are right up to a point. D1 college coaches know something
about football or they wouldn't be where they're at. Nonetheless, some are
better judges of talent than others, and there have been classic cases of
misjudgments about players' talents, especially at the QB position.Could be the coaches know something the rest of us don't, but it's hard to
argue that Cain isn't a viable alternative given his record as a starter and the
fact that he's faster and more mobile than Wynn. In theory at least he would
seem like a better fit for the spread offense Utah runs.After a loss
like Utah's and Wynn's performance in that loss, seems to me that all options
should be on the table. If they're not, IMHO that's poor management.
@Swoop, @YewtologyDon't forget, that beatdown 36-3 loss to Boise St
was in SLC.@Who am I sir?I'm not sure what you mean by
"the best record of any Non BCS team"? Won't TCU and Boise St both
have better records as non BCS teams than you?@IbleedcrimsonThat's pretty bad if you have to add two BYU games together to equal the one
horrific beatdown the Yewts took this weekend. I'm not even sure
when you compare the magnitude of the losses and what was at stake, that even
those two losses together even come close to how horrible this loss was for the
Yewts this weekend. Afterall, weren't Yewt fans and Yewt-loving
sports writers calling this the "Biggest Game in the History of Utah
college football?"With that perspective and all the Yewt talk
of a NC this now replaces Bronco's "Quest for Perfection" as the
biggest blunder in Utah college football history. After you lose to
BYU there's always another 3rd place MWC finish and trip to the Poinsettia Bowl
to look forward to.
Uteology | 1:13 p.m. Nov. 8, 2010 - Utah has proven this year that as bad as
they struggle with good teams, cupcakes like BYU are not a problem.You should know. Utah played more cupcakes than any team in the country this
Goals? More like pipe dreams.
Too bad for the Paper Tiger Utes. That cream-puff schedule catching up to you
now? Very possible to end up 4th in the conference. Way over-rated at #5!
Conference championships are a joke of a measuring stick. No one cares who the
winner of the MWC is. BYU clearly does not value conference championships, or
it would have weighed heavier on their minds when making the decision to go
independant. There are few things that matter in college football: going
undefeated, playing in a meaningful bowl game (none of the MWC bowl games means
anything), winning an unsactioned national championship. The college football
regular season cannot be beat. The bowl season and lack of a playoff are
frustrating and a fraud. The NCAA needs to start sanctioning a playoff now or
stop regulating college football.There is truth in the argument that
a team like Utah has nothing to play for except pride at this point.
@IbleedcrimsonFail! Nope not as humiliating. 40 point losses at home
wen you are supposedly a top 5 team are much more humiliating LOL
Is the future still "bright"? Is the future still "crimson"?
Where's mr. "mark it down" NC Utes 2010?
"Even during the dark days of Gary Crowton, BYU never suffered anything as
embarrassing as Utah's shutout loss to 2-10 UNLV, 0-27, or Utah's humiliating
blowout at home in the "Biggest Game in Utah History", 7-47."Um try these two one on for size:Utah state 31 BYU 16FSU 54 BYU 28
Four more games to be played!!! Here's what winning out would mean:1) A 12-1 record. The third best record in Utah history. (Only three teams
could have a better record this year and most likely there will be less than
three!!)2) A TENTH straight bowl win. (Only Florida State has won
more consecutive bowl games with eleven. However, our streak would still be
ongoing!!!)3) One more win over a BCS conference team. (Two if
Notre Dame counts) The best record by any non-BCS conference team!!!!4) Undoubtedly a TOP 10 final ranking!!5) Another win over one of
our historical rivals.WIN OUT UTAH!!! Your achievements would be
Nice arbitrary cutoff, Uteology, but Utah has been exposed many times. Since 2006, Utah is 48-13 overall and 5-8 against ranked teams.And
Utah has been blownout and beaten by numerous ranked and unranked teams:at UCLA(7-6) 10-31#5/#6 Boise State(13-0) 3-36at
Wyoming(6-6) 15-31at New Mexico(6-7) 31-34#16/#15 BYU(11-2) 31-33at #25/unranked Oregon St(9-4) 7-24Air Force(9-4) 12-20at
UNLV(2-10) 0-27at #14/#15 BYU(11-2) 10-17at #11/#11 Oregon(10-3)
24-31at #6/#6 TCU(12-1) 28-55at #12/#12 BYU(11-2) 26-23#3/#3
TCU(10-0) 7-47Even during the dark days of Gary Crowton, BYU never
suffered anything as embarrassing as Utah's shutout loss to 2-10 UNLV, 0-27, or
Utah's humiliating blowout at home in the "Biggest Game in Utah
Yes Utah is still better than byu.Regardless, I LOVED the thrashing
of Utah this past weekend.You yewties have enjoyed every ugly byu
loss this year(and yes there have been many). Please don't act self righteous
pretending 99% of yewties haven't enjoyed the losses. You have.So
yes at the end of the season we'll look back and say "Utah was a good
team" and "byu was a bad team" however, I'm going to fully enjoy
the yewtie beatdown this week.P.S. TCU should have had another
touchdown. It was an terrible no-call on that pass interference. You yewties
threw a hissy fit a few weeks ago on the pass interference no calls at the byu
game. No, it wouldnt have affected the outcome, other than to make the
beatdown ever larger.
I will never forget that head tackle attempt. who in their right mind would
attempt a head tackle? Enen life saving trainees learn how to break the head
hold...it is easy. a twelve year old can do it when taught how let alone a ball
carrier.Utah was very soft. Guess BYU will be on equal footing
thanksgiving weekend after looking at these films. Gooo BYU
@ScoreboardSame old argument from BYU fans. No it does not matter how
"improved" BYU will be by the end of the season Utah should still be
able to destroy them.Utah has proven this year that as bad as they
struggle with good teams, cupcakes like BYU are not a problem.Since
2008 Utah is 31-4 and is 4-4 against ranked teams:Has been
"exposed" 2 times: #3 TCU and #6 @TCU#11 @Oregon (current #1
team)#12 @BYU (current cupcake) Since 2008 BYU has been
exposed 8 times and has only one #18 Utah:@TCU #7 and @Utah #27-5 FSU and #6 TCU @LES@AFA, @FSU, @Utah State, @TCU #3
Well, djntz2001, I never claimed to be an expert. You have no idea how much I
understand sports, but my understanding is not the point. Whittingham and his
staff understand their team better than any FAN. You're the one calling the
coaches 'stubborn' and 'prideful' and 'blind', maybe you should understand
sports better before calling out Whitt and his staff. Go Utes! Beat Notre
Uteology"Good programs don't get humiliated at "home"
like we were."Agreed.For a Top 10 team or even a
Top 25 team to lose by 40 points at home to any team is humiliating.As much as some Utah fans have criticized BYU for blowout losses at home to
TCU and Florida State, even BYU's worst losses weren't as bad as Utah lost to
TCU on Saturday.The 4-8 BYU team that ended Gary Crowton's career at
BYU only lost at home to the #1-ranked USC Trojans (led by Matt Leinart and
Reggie Bush), 42-10.A 32-point loss by a 4-8 team at home to the
National Champions is understandable.A 40-point loss at home by a
Top 25 team to ANY team is humiliation.Pundits and talking heads
will remember this loss for a long time.
well Cvguy, you tell me expert? Wyyn has not shown up for big games. Granted,
TCU is a bigger, better and faster. Does it not amaze you that Wynn stayed in
the whole game, even when all the FANS and the COACHING STAFF knew that game was
out of hand? Don't most teams in any sports go to their 2nd unit to see if they
can produce or even create some sort of spark while they're getting blown out?
When does Jerry Sloan leave Deron Williams in a game when they're down by 20
points? Maybe you should understand sports better before you go off telling
someone they don't know what they're talking about, because obviously, you
What. No hedgehog comments of his blessed Utes performance? Because I'm FAR away
from "happy valley" and claim myself a big Cougs fan, I also recognize
and even enjoy watching a good, strong Utes team (just not when they play my
Cougs). I also call myself a Coach Whittinghman fan-- I love what he's done with
the program. I like Jordan Wynn a lot-- a good, local boy! It's the Utes fans I
have questions about! With all that being said, how can one not realize the
pathetic performance on Saturday. TCU out performed the Utes in every aspect of
the game. Utes fans, with few exceptions, get ready for this type of intensity
week-in & week-out in the Pac 12. I want Utah to "represent" well
in the Pac 12, but the team and especially fans need to realize "We're not
in Kansas anymore"! Hedgehog, still waiting ......
Welcome back down to Earth Ute's. The hype machine did you no favors but you now
can look forward to closing out the season and at least you have the Utah vs.
BYU game at home. Oh yeah the Home field advantage did not mean much
last Saturday now did it.Wear your regular winning jersey's maybe
that will help.
When it comes to handling the national spotlight, I'd say "did zero with
it" is an understatement. They proved that they were even more overrated
than people suspected. They had no answers and no defense. When your best wins
are against teams with records barely over .500, it does catch up to you
Well Well a lot of Coug fans seem to be looking past the CSU game this weekend.
Pretty cocky for team who has yet to win on the road!!!I guess the
nice thing is, if BYU loses this one the BYU fans posts on the Utah articles
will dry up like the Sahara.
@Nostradamus"TCU beat us at every aspect and once they had us down,
they never let us up..."They did let up and take their foot off
the gas at the end when they let you score a TD. So, credit to TCU coach Gary
Patterson for being charitable.@Sportsfan"yeah they lost
this game but it does not sound like they got defeated"With all
of the "our season is shot, all our goals are shattered" talk, they
sounded pretty defeated to me. That sounds like players and coaches who no
longer have anything to play for, except, the much denigrated Las Vegas Bowl.
After seeing one team finally get exposed on Saturday (consuming too
many "cupcakes" will make you sick) and seeing another team finally
wake up and play, I'm thinking the last game of the regular season will be a
good one. Maybe you won't have to worry about going to the LVB, afterall,
another typical 3rd place finish in the MWC will get you another trip to the
It bothers me when fans think they are experts on Quarterbacking. Did Wynn have
a bad game, yes. Apparently the coaches think he is best QB on the team and the
best chance to win games this year and the next two. I am sure Whittingham and
the O-coordinators know more about who should play than fans like djntz2001.
Robles will try and play next year? Really? No kidding. If the coaches think
he is the best, then he will play and I am sure some will complain about that
Defense missed assignments, coaching staff was stubborn and should have taken
the soft, shell-shaking QB who is not mobile and cannot play under pressure.
Whittingham is blind and had a chance to throw a different look at TCU with an
8-1 Senior quarterback who can run and throw the ball. Did he do it? Nope, he's
too prideful and thinks that will create QB conteversy. Cain now has 4 games
left and who knows if he'll sniff the field. Griff Robles will do everything he
can in camp to get Wynn off the field next season, you can count on it!
@ Flying Ute AMEN!I was more disappointed at our fans then the team.Our team didn't leave early, they stayed for every play. WE need to do our
part and support OUR TEAM!
Too bad. It would have been nice to seem the Utes do what they did in 2008. But
that team was different and better than this one. Besides the shellacking they
took from TCU it clear they were overrated all season. One more minute on the
clock against the AFA could have saved ESPN a trip to Salt Lake City and put the
correct perspective on Saturday's game.
How many "Big Games" do teams lose every saturday in college football? Maybe
none of them as big as Saturdays loss but they are big to the teams that play
them. I'm glad that Utah Football has a big game that everyone else in the
country viewed as big. We've come a long way from the days of the BYU game being
the biggest. I'm glad that the mindset at Utah is we play for undefeated seasons
and BCS Bowls and that losing is not accepted. So we joined the ranks of the
mortals and we lost. We WILL shake this off and play Utah Football the rest of
the way! GO UTES!!!
I am optimistic that Kyle will get this train back on the tracks after the wreck
last Saturday. I must agree...this was a team loss...TCU beat us at every
aspect and once they had us down, they never let us up...However,
last I read Utah is still #14 in the BCS...has 3 very winnable games...and could
get a shot at one of our future PAC 12 opponents in Vegas. Not a BCS game, but
fun none the less.Less we forget...it has been a great year...and
with the recruiting advantage of the PAC, we can look forward to many more fun
years...and hopefully a new rivalry. Doesn't matter who...just anyone new.
Its nice to see the optimism by the players, yeah they lost this game but it
does not sound like they got defeated. they are still ready to play, still ready
to show what Utah football is all about. I love this team i am so glad i became
a fan when i was a kid.
It is not the end of the world that Utah lost 1 game. Utah can still finish
with a 12-1 record. I will take 12-1 any day. So what if they lost a game to
the number 1 team in the country (I don't care who the BCS says is number 1
right now... TCU could win either of those teams). So, you lose to the number 1
team in the country and win 12 games... not bad. Take this loss as an
opportunity to bounce back, and go run over the rest of the teams on the
schedule. GO UTES !!!
"I'd like to win every game. All our players would like to win every game. It
didn't happen. It's not going to happen. Not this year" -- KW -----------Actually, its about taking the next step. Good
programs don't get humiliated at "home" like we were. This isn't the 80s when
we stunk and 90s when we continually underperformed.For me this was
the most embarrassing lose since 1994, when an 8-0 Utah team lost to @UNM and
then got rolled @AFA. That team finished #10.Utah has 3 + bowl
games to prove that they deserve to be a ranked team. I for one can't wait to
see the response on Saturday on NBC.GO UTES!!!
Whit has said it last week. Glad AFA is over with and never want to play them
again ever and I am sure he will say it again on TCU. If yewtah lose to Notre
Dame this Sat he might say it again and again. Guess what USC is another
Religious Institution or Private School.