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Tea party success could hurt Romney's chances at a presidential bid in 2012

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  • Clorinda Layton, UT
    Nov. 8, 2010 9:56 a.m.

    I happened to be at the Utah Republican Convention as a delagate, and based on what I saw, Mitt Romney's demise is great exaggerated in this article. Although he was tepidly booed when he nominated Bennnett, everything else he said received cheers and applause. Mitt Romney got more attention and more positive reponse than any other person at the convention. I'm involved in the Tea Party, and I don't know anyone who doesn't back Romney. And when did they annoint David Kirkham the leader of the Tea Party in Utah? This is news to me. I've never heard of him.

  • Rocko San Diego, CA
    Nov. 7, 2010 12:23 a.m.

    4 quick points:

    1. The tea party will love Mitt's message of smaller government, stronger faith/families, and military strength - this was his main theme in 2008 - "the 3-legged stool."

    2. Anti-Mormon sentiment among conservatives will wane as the story gets old and stale. Plus it helps that conservatives love Glenn Beck - a Mormon.

    3. Any remaining anti-Mormon bigots in Iowa who try to hijack Mitt in the Iowa caucus will split their votes among Pawlenty, Palin, Huckleberry, etc.

    4. This vote splintering will result in Mitt winning Iowa, then New Hampshire, Michigan, Florida, and, eventually, the nomination.

    Mitt is the only conservative who can beat Obama.

  • Andy Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 6, 2010 11:46 p.m.

    Weird, Romney is too establishment to get elected but too much an outsider (because of his faith) to get elected.

    I voted Bob out and would have no problem voting for Romney.

    If Romney tries to play the social conservative platform then he looses. If, on the other hand, he plays the fiscal conservative platform then he has a chance. I believe that many tea partiers don't really care about traditional social values (abortion, prayer in schools, gay marriage) nearly as much as they care about huge spending, deficits, high taxes, more entitlements and slipping quality of life.

    If Romney could control his message to focus on the economy then he could persuade many segments of society to vote for him.

  • kreese Taft, CA
    Nov. 6, 2010 11:25 p.m.

    Don't pay attention to anything from the Boston Globe. They will promote any dissension within the Republican party.

    Romney would be fine, but there are other good candidates. Whomever the liberal media attacks, must be feared by them. Whatever, Obama has to go, if we are to survive as a nation.

  • Wally Ballou Cedar City, UT
    Nov. 6, 2010 11:02 p.m.

    Gary Johnson 2012. A successful, two-term former Republican governor from a heavily Democratic state. And a man of principle, not a man of expediency.

  • peter Alpine, UT
    Nov. 6, 2010 10:50 p.m.

    Mitt wouldn't get my vote because he is too much like the establishment. Palin and Christie know how to control government corruption and spending.

  • reader1234 South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 6, 2010 8:42 p.m.

    Chris Christie would be the best choice among all republicans.

  • Salsero Simi Valley, CA
    Nov. 6, 2010 8:05 p.m.

    Mitt Romney? Who's he? This is the year of Sarah and the Mama Grizzlies.

    The Tea Party will continue to purge the Republican Party of the Fat Cat Old Guard. John McCain has won his final election because he was able to successfully change his stripes. Romney is a moderate, a RINO, anathema to the Tea Party and he is cursed with being the guiding-light for Obamacare. His transformation into a social conservative will be incomplete as Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann sing the praises of their new darling, Marco Rubio.

    Any Republican who has been in the House for more than 4 terms and in the Senate for more than 2 terms should be removed as getting too fat at the government trough. Just look at John Boehner and his custom-made suits, smoking Cuban cigars over a glass of Merlot wine. He's too used to the comfortable life as El Jefe and the soft world he enjoys.

    Although Sarah may want Michelle on the ticket as a "true" spokesperson of Real Americans, it would probably be better to seek out Rubio for the second spot on the ticket. Romney is OUT!!

  • Larry Willard, UT
    Nov. 6, 2010 7:52 p.m.

    When Utah insist on electing Republicans, There will never be any change in Utah. Everyone will be working 2 jobs to pay the RENT.

  • Tanguero Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 6, 2010 7:46 p.m.

    If the Tea Party advocates really want to re-make the Republican Party, they need to rid themselves of all the establishment figures who want the enthusiasm of the Tea Party but don't want their agenda.

    This includes such Republican leaders as Mitch McConnell and John Boehner. Their whole being is anti-Tea Party and old school, elite establishment. They are satisfied with their positions in Washington as major players on the national scene and content to enjoy the good life that their positions enjoy. Talk about Washington insider Fat Cats!

    When asked if he would drink a Slurpee with the President, John Boehner said that he would rather have a glass of Merlot. If anyone represents the wine and cheese, cigar-smoking, golf-playing, back-room wheeler-dealers, it would be John Boehner and Mitch McConnell. They like it where they are and will use the Tea Party to keep them in the Good Life.

    Mitt Romney is no fool and he is also playing the same game to boost his claim on the Republican presidential nomination in 2012. However, he and the other Republican insiders will work to "handle" the Tea Party people for their own purpose.

  • Cedarite Cedar City, UT
    Nov. 6, 2010 6:55 p.m.

    Ultimately, McCain would have been much better off picking Romney as a running mate.
    With Sarah Palin, we ended up having Joe the Plumber, a guy who didn't even understand the difference between gross receipts and taxable net held up as the figurehead of American business.

  • KM Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 6, 2010 5:21 p.m.

    Romney never had a chance. Our nation, sadly, has too many bigots and too many ignorants. Look at the administration that we were given during a time of economic calamity; an administration full of professors and greatly lacking private business experience. So we we continue to damage our economy with foolish grade-school decisions that business leaders would decry.
    Long story short. We (our nation) doesn't want someone with experience in creating jobs and turning a profit, we want someone who will tell us we can get something for nothing.

  • John Stewart Pill Vienna, VA
    Nov. 6, 2010 4:32 p.m.

    I agree, his being Mormon will kill him politically. That would be cool if he were to change to a blue dog democrat. He'd be awesome.

  • John Adams Miami, FL
    Nov. 6, 2010 2:22 p.m.

    Mitt's history as governor speaks volumes. Electing Romney would mean business as usual in the White House.

    No, thank you!

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    Nov. 6, 2010 2:15 p.m.

    Can you visualize Mitt campaigning in some place like Arkansas insisting that Sarah Palin is just another "elitist"?

  • Still Blue after all these years Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 6, 2010 1:43 p.m.

    Romney does have problems. Mormon. the flip flops, real or perceived. his health plan in Mass. and the tea party, which is only going to get stronger.

  • whoisjohngalt Holladay, UT
    Nov. 6, 2010 12:32 p.m.

    Stop voting for someone because he has the same religion as you or because he has the same skin color as you or same sex. Im LDS and will NEVER vote for Romney. When asked by a Boston tv reporter wheather he believes Mormon founder Joseph Smith actually saw God Romney replied, " I dont recall anyone seeing God." For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ. hmmm... But you go ahead and vote for him.

    I stand behind the canidate who defends the constitution. I stand behind Ron Paul!

  • B Logan, UT
    Nov. 6, 2010 12:21 p.m.

    How about Chris Christie for President; Mitt Romney for treasury secretary? Marco Rubio for Vice President. Christie/Rubio is every Dems worst nightmare.

  • Question Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 6, 2010 11:45 a.m.

    There is no Romney chance in 2012. Don't delude yourself.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    Nov. 6, 2010 10:41 a.m.

    Romeny vs. Obama

    Yep that IS an easy decision.

    Looks like the White House will be controled by the Democrats for four more years.

  • Timp South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 6, 2010 10:39 a.m.

    Mitt is who will hurt Mitt.

    He should have had more foresight to stick w/ the middle-of-the-road Republican, w/ strong economic experience - the same image that got a republican elected governor of MA.

    Instead, while trying to pander to the south and Huckabee, he flip-flopped like crazy, making him hardly believable.

    The Tea Party has momentum, but as seen in NV, if they don't elect a reasonable Republican candidate than it will all be for naught. America might not elect a Mormon, but they certainly won't elect a Sharon Angle type candidate either -

  • gadsdengurl concord, NH
    Nov. 6, 2010 10:15 a.m.

    The tea party doesn't like Romney but not because of religion. He is simply NOT a conservative. NH won't accept him.. so he should give up now. Gingrich is long been toast.. no one even considers him a conservative.

    We are on to bigger and better things now.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    Nov. 6, 2010 10:14 a.m.

    Newt Gingritch? I thought the guy was entirely out of politics.

    I look at him just as negatively as Nancy Pelosi, an established insider who plays politics over actually representing the people who sent him to Congress.

    Huntsman is my pick for an outsider. He would beat Romney head to head in Utah and doesn't have all the negative light to him that Romney does.

    If Romney wants a chance at being President, he should pick Huckabee as a running mate.

  • T. Party Pleasant Grove, UT
    Nov. 6, 2010 10:08 a.m.

    Romney lost a ton of credibility with me when he endorsed Bailout Bob.

    But let's be serious....Romney vs. Obama?

    That's an easy decision.

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    Nov. 6, 2010 9:30 a.m.

    It'll never happen. But it has nothing to do with the Tea Party.
    Romney polls well, even among the Tea Party.
    He is intelligent and articulate and has a business background.
    But he is not electable because of his Mormon faith. He can't do anything about that. Larry O'Donnell ranted about his grandfather last time. How does a candidate overcome that?
    What the Tea Party HAS done is shine a light on fresh political talent. I see a political outsider in 2012, like Jimmy Carter in 1976. Let's pray for a better result this time.

  • Demisana South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 6, 2010 8:54 a.m.

    I think Romney would make a good president. I just don't think enough people can get past being LDS. And the ones who make it past that - a large number won't make it past Romneycare. It's just too much associated with Obamacare, only in a slightly more market friendly approach. Premiums in MA have gone up (hugely), and you have a lot of people who get a policy when they get sick, and paying the penalties until then, because it's cheaper than the inflated insurance costs.

    Even understanding that his MA legislature was going to pass it anyway over his veto if necessary, and by cooperating with them he managed to fix some of the worst of it, I don't think most people are going to give him a pass. Besides, his successor then proceeded to undo the changes he'd fought for, so now it is the monster they wanted in the first place. And a prime advertisement for why Congress shouldn't have done Obamacare.

  • Fivealarm Clearfield, UT
    Nov. 6, 2010 8:18 a.m.

    The Tea Party doesn't fully understand what they do. The more they undermine the Republican Party the more they empower the Democrats. Now I'm not saying that Reps are better than Dems. Quite frankly they're all crooks!!! But this is the danger of a three party system. A third party needs to take influence from both parties equally.

  • Billcarson Mattapoisett, Ma
    Nov. 6, 2010 8:17 a.m.

    Mitt Romney and Barney Frank made a promise to all the people on the SouthCoast of Massachusetts that the United States would never allow the export of single hull barges out of the United States. Mitt Romney was governor of Massachusetts in 2003. Did they tell us the truth?

    On Sunday, April 27, 2003, the Tank Barge Bouchard No. 120 struck rocks south of Westport, MA, when it passed on the wrong side of a navigational marker at the entrance of Buzzards Bay. The resulting 12-foot gash on the bottom of the hull released an estimated 98,000 Number 6 fuel oil in Buzzards Bay.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Nov. 6, 2010 7:58 a.m.

    If the tea party is Romney's undoing, it should teach Republicans not to play with fire by selling out their principles and integrity to the radicals. Do you think McCain will ever shake the tea party off his back after he pandered to them to get re-elected? The GOP will rue the day.

  • A Guy With A Brain Enid, OK
    Nov. 6, 2010 7:56 a.m.

    A Romney/Gingrich ticket, with Romney in the top spot would be fantastic!

    Why not Gingrich in the top spot? 2 reasons: proven marital infidelity and no executive leadership by Gingrich. Romney has not committed the first and has the second.

    A message for conservative Americans:

    2012 - Finish The Job!

  • A Guy With A Brain Enid, OK
    Nov. 6, 2010 7:48 a.m.

    Rather than claim Romney won't win the Republican nomination because Tea Partiers want a conservative, unselfish politician, why not investigate and see if he's actually conservative and helpful to his fellow man?

    Was he selfish when his investment company, Bain Capital, saved thousands of jobs over the years by investing in failing companies? Yes, some jobs were cut but others were saved and virtually every company Bain invested in rebounded and GAINED jobs back. Is that selfish?

    Is it selfish when Mitt pledged to serve as our President for free?, literally refusing his $400,000 a year salary?

    And claims that Romney is a flip-flopping liberal are nothing more than lies put out by the mainstream media. Any honest person truly familiar with LDS theology/church government knows Mitt is far more conservative than liberal. And, no, Mitt saying that he would work with homosexuals in MA is not him being a liberal sellout. That's Mitt trying to take care of his fellow man like Christ said we should: love the sinner but not the sin.

    The mainstream media; if they say someone is bad, that person is almost always good.

    2012: Finish The Job!

  • GWB West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 6, 2010 5:11 a.m.

    Mitt Romney has never had a chance to get the nomination for President running as a Republican.

    I have said it many times, Mitt's LDS faith will never allow him to get through the primaries in the southern states while the Southern Baptist Convention, who dominates the GOP voters, open discusses the evils of the Mormon cult at least twice a year from the pulpit.

    Those voters know that they can only vote for an "acceptable" Christian candidate like Huckabee, Palin, or the 3-times divorce adulterer Newt Gingrich.

    However, Mitt would have a chance in the Democratic party where a candidate doesn't have to pass a religious test to be nominated.