Hey Worf, regarding "Why do some ute fans put their team on the same level
with TCU and Boise State?" Right back at you buddy why would you think TCU is
on the same level as Utah when Utah has gone to 2 BCS bowls and kicked the
living trash out of both teams it played including an Alabama team that had been
#1 for much of the season. Now lets look at TCU's BCS record, 1 game with
result being a loss. BTW what's TCU's record against Utah? Silence from Texas.
right idea Elcapitan but wrong network. The game is lost on CBS-C(ollege
Sports) Most people still can't see it.
Tom in CATJ | Have either of you stopped to consider that by
the end of November the Cougs will have lost to the Utes 2 out of 3. Not only
will the Utes have a best of 3 advantage but they will have DOMINATED the Cougs.
+24 in 2008, -3 2009, +?? in 2010. Three weeks from now it will be crystal
clear that Utah OWNS BYU. Enjoy the 3 point margin from last year.
It will be embarrassing for the BYU players to be out on the field a full 60
minutes when the game is over at the 15 minute mark.More to the
point, I like Utah's chances against TCU. The Frogs bring a lot of experience
to the table but the Utes are up for the challenge. We have the MUSS!!Go UTES!!!!!
UtahManDan:Because ute fans come on cougar articles and express what
they're thinking, and it's usually sarcastic. I have nothing against the team or
coaches. It's the few fans who insight a feud.
too bad this game is on CNBC. This is an ESPN type game...many of us can not
even get CNBC on cable programming. Definitely a second rate program schedule.
All will be calling me a genius in a couple more months.I said it
since week 1.The 2010 national champion WILL BE the University of
Utah.Mark it down
worf,It's because they are fans, their team has a history of winning
big games and are ranked in the top 10 along with Boise and TCU.Why
do you care what Utah fans think?
Why do some ute fans put their team on the same level with TCU and Boise State?
Do you honestly think Pitt & Air Force would have had a chance playing them? San Diego State would be undefeated today after playing the ute
schedule. BYU would have just one loss and a better developed team today.The Dalton gang will rule.
I've been trolling these comments on both the Deseret News and Salt Lake Tribune
for a couple of years now and I have NEVER seen anyone eat crow, from either
side.We need to organize ourselves, we rational ones, and demand
crow-eating. There must be a way. ;-DGo Big Blue won't be eating
crow. It'll change its handle and be back and continue hating. The Utes could
smoke TCU, play and win the BCS NC game, be voted champions and the haters would
STILL say they were over-rated and the BCS chose the wrong team and that they
got lucky in the game.I like seeing some of the BYU fans, though,
coming out and giving support. It's what I'd do if BYU were in Utah's position
right now. It's just stupid to hate a team so bad that you wish the worst for
them no matter who they play.
Go Big BlueWill you come back Monday when you are wrong? On a
positive side you can say Big Blue means Utah State!
Americas demographics are changing, Utah and Idaho, are doing much better
economically then in the past and people along with companies from BCS areas are
moving here. As the populations grow and schools become stronger, and the BCS
approved areas struggle. Utah and Idaho universities will only become stronger
in many ways then ever.
Frogs roll just like they did last year. Two years ago Utes win was a total
fluke. Look for TCU to crank out the points and slam Wynn.
Sad to say, but here in the midwest, there is very little coverage of the west.
Most folks would be surprised that Utah and TCU are in the top 10. I've always
been a big Y fan, so I keep updated through the internet, but the mid section of
this country hardly acknowledges the MWC (thanks in part to the MTN network).
The Utah-TCU game should be a good one, and I think the winner should be in
contention for the championship game.
Vegas Ute and David Ute fanWell said guys!UTAH BY
davidutefan makes a great list and great points. The OTHER problem with BCS
stuff that nobody brings up on these shows is that the SEC is NOT the only
conference the MWC is competing with to get in.The pro-BCS
discussion always starts with the STRONGEST conference when it should start with
the weakest. The Big East gets an auto qualifier, an undefeated Big East school
would likely get a title shot. The MWC > Big East. Ohio State plays a HORRIBLE
schedule out of its conference and has some really bad cellar dwellers IN its
conference. Utah spanked conference pal Iowa State and sent them to bed without
supper.Start the conversation around all the BCS conferences, not
the strongest one.
Mel Kiper, Jr. railed on TCU for having a cupcake schedule this morning and said
that the BSu schedule was far more compelling than Utah's or TCU's. His
reasoning was because BSu will still play the following powerhouses: Hawaii and
Nevada. Huh? So, everybody has their own opinions. Nobody from Utah
knew, when the schedule was done YEARS ago, that Pitt, ND and ISU would be
having down years. The only "cupcakes" actually scheduled were SJSU and the MWC
opponents (which we had no control over). SJSU, by the way, was also scheduled
by Alabama and Wisconsin. ALL the big schools schedule ONE cupcake. Auburn is
playing Chattanooga this week, who just lost to ELON! TCU has to play the same
MWC cupcakes we do. BSu has to play worse conference cupcakes from the WAC. In
addition, they purposefully scheduled Wyoming AND Toledo.Opinions,
schedules and rankings don't mean a thing unless you win the game. If we win
out, the chips will fall where they are going to. We will have our backers and
our opponents, nothing we can do about it. Just win out!!Go Utes!!
Squash the toads!! See you at GameDay!!
The big problem here is the perception that sports media types bring up all the
time and Colin Cowherd talked about his morning on ESPN radio.When
the non-AQ schools like Utah and Boise St continue to stick with the strategy of
playing a cupcake-dominant schedule with only the hint of an occasional ranked
team, there's no way serious sports minds are going to take them seriously for
consideration in National Championship talks. He cited both Utah and
Boise St numerous times for their focus on scheduling heavy on cupcake teams
while BCS conference teams are playing ranked sometimes weekly.It's
easy to overlook cupcake teams for 4 or 5 weeks and spend the whole time
preparing for the one good team on your schedule and catch them off-guard
because they've been playing good teams every week and can't afford the luxury
of over-looking anyone. Plus there is no grind on the Utes and
injuries don't take a toll when you're playing cupcakes, but this affects teams
who schedule ranked or good teams every week.
@TJ 11:32Well said Brother. SoCalUte just can't come to terms with
"3 of the last 4". Hard isn't it, SoCalUte.
@casual Observer: I hardly call a BSU Fiesta Bowl Victory over TCU with a score
of 17-10 a beat down. Check your facts. Total yards was BSU 317 to TCU's 308.
You don't sound like a casual observer, you sound like a SEC elitist. I'm a
PAC-10 guy myself having grown up in So. Cal. I don't like the BCS and think
there needs to be a playoff. What people forget is with a playoff, teams like
BSU and TCU and Utah would still need to play top 10 teams to get to the NC
game. So they may have to beat an SEC team or two to get there. Seems far to me.
The other thing, BSU would play SEC teams, but SEC teams won't play BSU in
Boise. BSU needs that return game, they need the money which is why they won't
schedule unless they get a 1 and 1 deal, or guaranteed huge money.
SoCalUte;I like remembering the past 4 years when the yewts lost to the
Cougs 3 out of 4 years. How ancient is that? Before you start spouting off try
finding something that makes sense or is of value.That said, Go Utes and
Cougs this weekend. 2 great programs that have alot more class than the very few
members of the no-class crew who pretend to be fans.
@ Xpat You ALSO haven't been watching the Utes this year. You are obviously a
cewg, so I understand that you don't follow the Utes or ND, but you at least
ought to educate yourself a little before you start spouting off.While I
love the fact that you are in Karlstad, Sverige.....I do believe your comments
were based on ancient history, just like everything else cewg fans talk about.
Ahh yes....remember the 80's
That should read Bear Bryant is still dead.
Utah's schedule may not be good but, I sure the the SEC would stop pretending
that they don't play schools like Chattanooga, Louisiana-Monroe, Georgia State,
San Jose State, Duke, Arkansas State, McNeese State, Troy, Furman, So. Miss.,
Alcorn State, etc. Or that Kentucky, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Miss. State, Ole
Miss and such make their conference more powerful. Utah, TCU, or Boise Could
play (and beat) every one of these teams and at the very least compete with the
Alabamas, Floridas, Georgias, and South Carolinas if not beat them as well. When
these teams are overrated to start the season, what did we have? 4 or 5 in the
early top 10 rankings before they had played anyone? suddenly they are world
beaters. Bear Bryant is still last time I heard. 2 years ago Florida jumped in
the ranking after beating the then #2 ranked LSU Tigers, only to see them lose 5
or 6 more games that season but, that set Florida up to play for the NC based on
their new ranking. The SEC consistently has a couple of good teams but, not the
stength the nat'l media gives them.
The beating that TCU took from BSU last year illustrates that the champion of
the intermountain west teams is not national champion caliber. Let a contending
team beat LSU, Alabama, Auburn, etc. on a regular basis then come talk about how
great they are.
The BCS loves the fact that Utah and TCU are playing this week and that they are
both "ranked" in the top five. Of the two, whoever loses, is instantly
eliminated from NC contention. BCS loves that, as I said. Then they can put the
winner against Boise State in a BCS bowl and relegate these western teams to
seemingly "also rans," and continue to claim the whomever plays in the
make-believe NC game is indeed National Champion. As a side note,
none of the three (UofU, TCU, or BSU) have actually played a schedule that
merits a top five ranking. Face it, fans out here in the Mountain West, that's
the undeniable truth.
@XpatYou obviously haven't been following Notre Dame this year...or any
years recently. The Utes are a better team than ND. Granted, TCU is a very good
team, and the Utes may very well lose to them, but it's going to be close. But
ND isn't even ranked, and hasn't had a good team for a few years.
The whole thing is a farce. So Utah is not worthy of the NC this year but if
they do the same thing next year with the same SOS, they will be worthy because
of their conference affiliation?The BCS is exclusionary by design.
The BCS was formed so there would never be another BYU type NC. Then when BYU
was 13 or 14-0 they were still excluded by the BCS. The BCS will never cave.
The BCS must be broken.
I'm just a little curious, but does anyone know if there is anyone nationally
that is really giving Utah a legitimate shot at winning this game? Everything i
see seems to be all about the frogs! It kind of reminds me of the things that
were said before the Alabama game in 08 . . . . . anyone agree?
So if the bcs wanted to put some integrity in their system imagine how many
people they could satisfy by putting a top 8 team playoff for the championship
in their system. It only takes 3 weeks and they could still have all the
meaningless bowls which add the TV money.
re, classless: Of course the SEC claims they are the strongest. They play
absolutely no one out of conference, and no one on the road, so they have glossy
records right up until the championship game. Would they have one all those
championships the last decade if there would've been a playoff? 2009 Sugar Bowl
actually the title from the article on blocku was:Biggest game ever in the
history of the universe! # 3 TCU (9-0) @ # 5 Utah (8-0) And then the
first line was: Think I'm overselling it? Maybe just a little.So, even though Jazzy is a huge Utah fan, he was exaggerating with the title.
He write some interesting articles that often have lots of stats in there. I
think if he had an editor, he could write for a paper like the trib or des
news.Whether you are a Utah fan, a TCU fan, or just a college
football fan, the implications of this game are big. Even with Utah
going to an AQ conference next year, I still don't like the BCS. I think that
some sort of playoff would be necessary to crown a true NCAA FB champion. With
the BCS there is always going to be controversy as to which conference is the
strongest. We know that SEC claims they are.Anyway, this game should
be a great one. Go Utes!!!
I do not fear the horned frog! Go Utes!