First off, the story of Obama spending $200 million a day and travelling with 34
war ships has already been throughly debunked. It was an anonymous rumor on the
Internet that Fox News immediately ran with.Now that the Republicans
have to actually try to govern, their honeymoon is going to end very fast.
Health care reform isn't going anywhere (Obama still has his veto pen and the
votes just aren't there in the Senate) and the new members of Congress aren't
going to have the power and seniority to change very much. As a result, the Tea
Partiers will soon be calling treason and the GOP will have a very nasty civil
war for the presidental nomination. The independents who supported them will see
two years of infighting and political posturing and go back to the Democrats,
and Obama will be reelected in 2010. Just my prediction...
The first goal should not be getting Obama out of office. If that is the
Republican view, they will face the same angry voters in 2012. WAKE UP and get
the spending under control! Also, quit treating Congress like it's an exclusive
club-you work for us! Repeal the retirement package and no more exemptions from
the laws you pass for the rest of us.
You wish for a good thing, D News. Unfortunately, Obama and the Democrats have
ruled with the proverbial iron fist, virtually ignoring the GOP and pushing
through a plethora of liberal pet projects in the name of dealing with the
recession. For his Obama-ness to now speak of "working together" is likely to
fall on deaf GOP ears. I hope, like you do, that partisanship can be set aside
for the common good. Just don't stand on your head waiting for it to happen.
I have rarely seen an editorial with less basis in fact. The Brits have
certainly not moved to the center at least fiscally. Rather they are defunding
extensive portions of the their welfare state,and reducing public expenses. The
PM has led this effort and it was the conservative election platform to which
the Liberals agreed in order to have some power. The current US President
neither has the political mandate for such an effort in the US or the personal
political philosophy to provide such a platform. The citizens of the country
will continue to see blockage of every effort in the House to accomplish any
real reform and without this the economic malaise will continue.
"Let them eat cake."
To "Live Hard | 10:40 p.m." you are wrong, he is spending $2 billion, taking 34
war ships, and 3000 people with him. Just to see their festival of lights.
CJ The president has already compromised. At least he is not totally bought off
and brainwashed by the biggest exploiters in the history of man. There has
never been a wealthier class of people and you call it socialism to have them
pay more in taxes, (by the way a tax rate they were familiar with, since they
made millions in the process of paying those taxes). What are you people really
Obama is not a statesman, he is a committed socialist ideologue. If you think he
is going to compromise and do what is best for the country you are insane. This
guy thinks everyone who makes a profit of any kind is evil and needs to be
controlled and that the government is the solution to everything. He is not
going to do anything other than stick to his radical agenda. Thank heavens the
Republicans got in to neutralize this guy who should never have been elected in
the first place.
@KMAgreed. My point is not the direction we are headed, although
direction is fundamental and extremely important. It's the ability to get the
job done.History shows society, issues, events and circumstances
change, although certain basic human principles never do. Regarding the
Constitution, let's try harder to distinguish between the two.Biology shows that people cannot solve problems effectively w/o some level of
cooperation and coordination, in a family, a company or a nation. Persuasion at
gun point is an oxymoron.In a strong dictatorship "my way or the
highway" is a very effective governance technique as long as you can maintain
power through force. It is not only a question of the rightness of your
direction, it is a question of power, and the ability to execute effectively
long term.Absolutes, don't work in a democratic republic where not
everyone agrees on the direction to take. Better to get 75% than nothing. The
current slash and burn political pendulum cannot achieve limited government. The
idea that gridlock will achieve limited government is as wrong headed as it is
cynical. Changing course requires action and compromise, not stalemate.
Improvement perhaps, not perfection. Just watch...
I'm all for "finding common ground." As long as the common ground means
limiting the size and power of the federal govenrment and stopping the insane
spending! Then we can talk, otherwise lets just agree to disagree.
It's hard to imagine how such simple principles of human nature can be so
misunderstood by so many. Common myths:1) Politicians don't listen.
The truth: Oh yes they do, and with itching ears represent the will
of their base who elect them. The voters are saying, don't listen, don't budge,
but from opposite sides of the coin.2) To the conservative:
Compromise has caused the deficit and all the problems of big government. To the
liberal: Compromise has cost us 100% government run healthcare.The
truth: Mud slinging campaigns, gaming ethics, and the 20 second sound bite are
all doing well. The ends always justify the means as long as your core
principles agree with mine. Shouldn't some of those principles include simple
things like frankness, transparency, honesty, integrity, problem solving and
thoughtful debate of issues? 3) Being friends with the loyal
opposition while respectfully diagreeing on issues is a cardinal sin.
Compromise, poison.The truth: There is less friendship and
comraderie in the Senate then ever before. There is no compromise and hasn't
been for some time.The real change would be working together to find
common ground. Or carry on...
We did our part yesterday. It's up to Congress and the president now. In two
years, we re-assess their work. If they don't do what we hired them to do, we
fire them.Repeat until spending is in line with revenue.
My understanding is that the people do better and our government is more
effective at producing real solutions to our very real problems when control is
divided like it now is. Let's just hope that we don't get as close to the brink
of disaster as Britian has gotten before these guys we've sent get around to the
serious business of working on our country's problems rather than focusing on
getting re-elected or partisan bickering.
We are going to get gridlock and little cooperation! The ability of this
administration to get major new programs accomplished was already limited. This
just seals the deal! Political gridlock is supposed to be good for business. If
bickering lawmakers can't agree on anything, the thinking goes, they can't pass
laws and regulations that make the economy worse. In today's challenging
environment, gridlock is detrimental. As much as Republicans want to speed up
the recovery process and accomplish their agenda...I think they will just slow
progress down to a slow crawl of inaction.
By the way, I don't recall you (Deseret News editors) calling for statesmanship
in 2008. Why do the Republicans have to work with Obama today? It's obvious the
American people don't like the direction Obama was taking this nation--and their
only Hope for Change was to put a stop to what was happening--and that meant
going with the other party.I might be wrong, but you sound like sour
grapes and poor sportsmen to me.
"But is that precisely what voters have asked for?...we think that they are
looking for genuine solutions, not gridlock."Wrong.Many
of those, like myself and Captain Kirk, wanted the out of control spending and
government takeover of industry after industry to stop. That means gridlock. And
we got it. It's interesting how you point your scornful finger only
at Republicans. I have to laugh (out loud, even). It puts a sparkle in my smile
to know this shift in power upset you.You (editors and staff at
D-News) probably cried in your Cheerios this morning, and your pictures of Obama
hanging in your cubicles have tears in their eyes, but you have to pat
yourselves on the back for your (Deseret Media's) efforts at saving Harry Reid's
"putatively uncompromising tea party" Excuse me? Why shouldn't they be
uncompromising? This is NOT the time for compromise (i.e. the Blue Dogs losses).
Putative? How? Shame on the D.N. for name calling. The tea partiers are
main-street America - moms, dads, grandparents - and they were angry enough not
to compromise. Compromise is not always the best policy. How can you compromise
the socialist/marxists running this county and the conservatives who want to
keep American free?
"Centrist "blue dog" Democrats from conservative districts were among the
biggest losers to the Republican wave,..." They deserved it! Matheson should
have been one of them.
"As large numbers of independent voters swing from the Democrats to the
Republicans, we think that they are looking for genuine solutions, not
gridlock."It's too late."We trust that the
rhetoric of brinkmanship can be set aside as our representatives now reveal
their much-needed talents as statesmen to solve the serious problems facing our
nation."Wow. I cannot believe this editorial. It's too late. If
you wanted talented statesmen, you should have supported them and voted for
Emajor,The only real solution is to return our federal government to
it's true constitutional limits.The federal government needs to be
smaller.The gap between spending and tax revenue is just too big for
this to be solved with tax hikes. The political will does not exist
to solve the problem.There is too much selfishness to solve the
problem.The majority of the people will only vote to help themselves and
care not for the nation. Few are willing to give up their benefits
to save the nation. Every special interest wants their "share" of
the public money and the federal government loves being the sugar daddy with
other people's money.It's not that people don't know HOW to solve
the problem ... It is just that not enough people are willing to make the
necessary sacrifices to do it.I guess the best I can hope for right
now is gridlock to slow down the federal government.
I'm going to go out on a limb and make a couple predictions.1. In
2012 there will once again be mobs of angry voters who did not have their
unrealistic expectations met by the government.2. That picture of
Obama on the phone will be photoshopped to put the cord on the other end and
then be mass emailed within hours from now.
With both sides saying "it is my way or the highway" we will continue on
The Republicans will put gaining more power ahead of the interests of the
country. Now that they have control over the House, they cannot simply stop
everything, they have to participate in governing. I don't have high hopes that
they will be responsible and provide leadership. It will be ugly the next two
Well, what we are going to get IS gridlock. The Republicans are beating the war
drum, seeing a mandate to fight without compromise on everything. Democrats are
going to be defensive, and have the power to both filibuster in the Senate and
veto anything from the Presidential office. Now that Republicans
have the House (congrats), perhaps they can now inform us of how they expect to
get the deficit in line, especially if they want to extend all of the Bush tax
cuts. I still don't think they have any more clue than the
Democrats about what to do with the economy. Or how to pay down the deficit.
DN Editors - "We trust ... their much-needed talents as statesmen to solve the
serious problems facing our nation."Thanks for this wise
counsel. We'll all be watching.
Des News: Dream on!"The pitched partisan battles of the election
are over. We trust that the rhetoric of brinkmanship can be set aside as our
representatives now reveal their much-needed talents as statesmen to solve the
serious problems facing our nation."