I find it interesting because the actual rule found on page 43 of the UHSAA
Handbook says that an athlete in posession, use of drugs, alcohol, or tobacco
will be suspended for 2 games for the first offense and 6 weeks for the 2nd
offense. Ifeel that the administration at bingham should be repremanded for not
following the rules of the UHSAA. I bet if it was any other school
in the state the student would have been suspended for the remainder of the
season. But because it's Bingham they will not do anything.I think it is
time for the UHSAA enforce their rules they make or get rid of the UHSAA.
Old Hapa, I take my hat off to your comments. They are the best on this entire
board. I feel bad for the example set here by the coach, the principal, and the
entire administration. The Inoke player is as tough as nails and the Miners can
still win with him.
As a senior, 3-year starter, and a national blue chip recruit with a bright
future and so much to lose, Harvey used terrible judgement and showed serious
immaturity with this incident, especially after his teammate was suspended
earlier in the season for robbery. I doubt Stanford will be interested anymore.
Grow up Harvey and learn from this mistake so you can realize your bright
future. Be grateful you're getting a second chance.
Well what ever people tell you, this is not news to people in the south valley.
Bingham is a win at all costs type of program, and it starts at the top!
BT1984, that was perfect. well said. Punishment has been laid down and its a
done deal.I on other hand am a pure football fan and want to see the best
players play. So serve the punishment and move on. I'm sure Northridge is
looking forward to playing the best. Assuming Bingham gets past Hunter today.
Hey, I had to say that. Good luck to all!!
OLD_BLUE:I have no stake in Bingham vs. anyone. I have three boys who I
have tried to raise to be honest, hard working, law abiding men. I have assumed
the responsibility to be clear on what is legal, honest and ethical with them.
One of my boys broke the law and sat in jail. As much as it broke my heart, I
did not bail him out. He said it was the worst experience of his life and that
he'd learned his lesson because he didn't belong there. Truth is, he broke the
law and he did belong there, at that moment.It's simple, actually.
Every season you let parents know that NO violation of the law will be tolerated
or excused just because your kid plays football. Life lessons matter, football
ultimately does not. FOOTBALL IS A PRIVILEGE! It will always be my favorite game
but will never be an excuse to be or act beyond the rules of society at any
level. Establish, clarify, teach, enforce the rules. There are too
many boys in men bodies at the pro level who never learned the lessons from that
process in their youth. Shame
Let's try to be honest about our own intentions in commenting on this story.Bingham fans want to believe that the test was accurate.Fans of any
other school, especially those who are still in the playoffs, want to believe
that Harvey Langi is guilty and shouldn't be playing.Fans of other schools
would prefer to see the Bingham football team disbanded, but that's another
discussion altogether.Coach Peck has made his decision, it's his team and
the administration at Bingham supports him.The rest of us can applaud or
decry his decision but we can't change it.
Old HapaWhat would you do? How would you handle this?
See below the facts on THC/Marijuana detection times.Marijuana
Detection TimesFrequent users blood drug test (defined as someone who
smokes several times per week) THC: 4-8 hours after smoking THC
by-product: 2 or more weeks after smokingFrequent users urine drug
testTHC by-product: 2 weeks to a month after smoking (3 months for
extremely heavy users)Infrequent users blood drug testTHC: 3-4
hours after smoking THC by-product: 2-3 days after smokingInfrequent users urine drug testTHC by-product: up to 10 days after
smokingI would guess Harvey was an Infrequent user and also has a
fairly high metabolism. Along with drinking a lot of water since getting busted.
I'm sure that 10 days after smoking, Harvey would test clean. The test was
Victory at what cost? As a Polynesian, I am ashamed that yet another has
disgraced his culture, let alone his team and most importantly, family. I don't
care what was in the test. If your not doing something shifty, why do you have
to trespass in a home under construction?To Chris B., as a BYU fan, albeit
very frustrated this year, you can have all the discipline problems. Are you
proud that they fit better at the U? Says a lot. College football is not the
test. Football at any level for that matter is still just a game you play for
awhile, then it ends. I have a handful of friends who have played through the
highest level then have to figure out what the heck to do when it's over and
they're in their early to mid 30's. That's the test. I hope these coaches
start thinking more about the future man and less about what the current boy
means in their win column. Armed robbery=2 game suspension, trespassing=1 game
suspension, all = relative free pass? Lesson learned...but not a good one.
Wow, it is amazing all the Bingham haters. Next thing they will be saying is
that it was not his urine.I hope that Langi figures it out before it
is too late. Dude, look no further than your older brother. You only get one
shot at this, if you blow it, you will have a lifetime of regrets. Good luck to the teams that play the Miners with or without Langi, they will
It would not show up in a test if he took it 11 days after it happened. It stays
in your system for a week tops, especially if you are trying to flush it out of
your system by drinking liquids. And how legit was this drug test? Was it just
bought and he went home and took it or did he go in and take it at this place?
And even if he didn't smoke he was still trespassing which is a misdemeanor if
you are 18, Is there no consequence for that? And honestly when the cops show up
who panics and says yeah I was smoking if you werent? Sounds really fishy to me,
twice in one season there has been legal issues with Bingham, I know Peck is a
classy guy and runs a great program but how bout some discipline? They could
probably win it without him and the D-Tackle anyways.
He took the test the day after coach peck found out,and I deal with drug tests
daily at my work and if he smoked 10 days prior it would show up in the test he
took for sure. Some of you people have no clue.
Hey, info man, I'm no expert on drug testing, but I did spend 4 years in the
service, and we were randomly tested for all recreational drugs, my
understanding was they all show up for at least 30 days no matter what you do to
try and purge them from you system. That was in the 80's, I'm sure the tests
they have now are even better. Just FYI for all the Bingham bashers looking for
what ever excuse you can find to slam the school and coach's. I have a kid on
the team who came home at the beginning of the week with the news from coach
Peck that Harvey was done for the year. It was only after he passed the drug
test that he reduced it to a 1 game suspension. Peck is as honorable as they
come, and worries more about the kids in his charge (even the ones that do dumb
teenager stuff) than what any of us think about him.
We all make mistakes, everyone reading this has made mistakes. The
important thing is you learn from them. Don't make the same mistake again. Walk
away from ANY negative influences, and make no mistake Weed-Dope or any elicit
drug will take you the wrong direction.Select the school that will
give you the best future, don't worry about any local schools, do what's best
Get some new friends. These are not good friends. You embarass yourself, your
family, your team and the best high school in Utah. Grow up! Everything must
have come too easy. It can be taken away just as easy. Use this mistake to make
a positive change.
dhsalum:You're right about one thing and one thing only this blog
really doesn't have anything to do with Utah or BYU. If you still think you're
correct check the record and history books.
weber state12 -> bone up on your knowledge. UHSAA and district involved and
would not have suspended them at all. Never missed a single game. Bingham
coaching staff has higher ideals and expectations from these young men, doesn't
mean they hold their hands, just hold them accountable. Seni missed his two
games that he wouldn't have missed at most high schools in state. Harvey, if I
know Coach Peck, will miss his two now. Know the facts, before you attack the
So the kid admits to using pot for peer pressure.... I'm sorry, this just
doesn't pass the giggle test. Incredible stuff out there at Bingham where
winning is certainly #1 at all costs. Wowser.
Thats two players this year that has got off easy. Quality program they're
running down there....
So he had a week to go in and test. hmmmmm
Usually peer pressure would have him not admit to using the drug.
Harvey is luck he doesn't play for San Juan he'd be done if he did. Last year a
San Juan basketball player came clean on his own about smoking marijuana,
wanting help and to take care of the problem. For his straight forwardness and
courage to get help he ended up losing his senior year of basketball. If I'm not
mistaken every USHAA athlete signs a contract saying they'll abstain from
alcohol, drugs, and tabacco. It also says if they break that contract they will
lose their eligibility for the remainder of that season.Good kids
make bad choices but still should have to take responsibility for their actions.
Cris B.--This has nothing to do with byu vs. utah. But since you brought
it up, there is a huge difference between a team and a program. Look at the top
10--TCU, Mich St, Mizzou, Utah and Wisconsin are NOT top ten programs. Compare
the program, not the team, with Florida, Texas, Ohio St, USC, LSU, etc. Utah is
not a top ten program. And as for BYU-- Go ahead, right on here, name me 70
programs that are better than BYU. By about 35 you'll be looking pretty foolish,
because BYU is AT LEAST a top 25 program. You utes crack me up...
Highly unlikely that anyone will beat Bingham this year, but I would have much
more respect for Bingham's coach, principal, and football team if they would do
it without Langi and Fauonuku.
As good as he is, Bingham wins the whole thing easy with out him! He will look
good in Red?!?!
I do not remember the specifics, but as I understand it, 10 days later the urine
test would be negative unless he were a regular user of the drug. So..he could
still have smoked that night and expect to have a negative result.
10 days later and whole lot of water will help clean out the THC . Should have
gotten a hair sample. Maybe he didn't smoke it but it sure sounds
fishy.Not the smartest decision. Hope he learns a valuable
lesson.I played ball with a kid who would have had a great carrier
in baseball....he never made it to college. Started out smoking pot and
drinking- ended up in prison.Be smart Harvey and choose better
friends. You have way to much to loose.
Idiot Harvi! Really???? you got 4 weeks to go in a season that all you and
your TEAMATES have worked so hard for, I have hung out with harvi before, good
good kid, but agree he has some people in his life who shouldnt be, and that is
a bad influence on him, he is clean according to the test, but common dont be
hanging out with kids who happen to be smoking the stuff. Dont make the mistake
any athelete, charish these times, anderson from bingham got kicked off
lastyears baseball team, good thing coach sato was not in charge or he would not
care. Bingham kids need to figure it out, and stop hanging out with kids
on the west side hood area. But sadly that is where all the talent in utah is!
ha GO MINERSWill not affect them other then not being able to
dominate someone, there running backs are all good and you still have a MOBILE
QB who oh ya can throw!Go miners!
Hey Moog I thought your name was Robert Craig. At least thats what it says on
the other newspapers blogs. Your not a Bingham fan, your just another trouble
maker. That being said I find it truly sad that all of these youth just don't
get it. They have all this talent and oppotunity and they just toss it away.
The other thing is I have a hard time believing that it only happens hear in
South Jordan. Makes you wonder how prevalent the problems are statewide.
A very bad choice made by a good kid. I think sufficient consequences. .Bingham will win the championship.
Wise up Harvey, make better choices - especially your friends and perhaps we can
look forward to seeing you play up on the hill in red with the potential to play
wow. That's good that he's clean. But I know ur gunna get scared when the cops
show up. But saying something so bold like that? I just wonder why the cops said
it smelled like it? But tests are very accruite. Good for him.
Harvey deserves credit for testing clean, admitting his mistake, and submitting
a very sincere apology.Who among us never trespassed, in one way or
another, while in high school?Best of luck in the post season,
Harvey! We'd love to see you in red!
Clearly just a kid who's learning about life.Best of luck to Harvey
whether he goes to Utah, BYU, or wherever. I'm sure he'll be fine and continue
to be a great football player.
ouch... Thats gonna leave a mark. Harvey should not have been there. He did the
wrong thing. There is no excuse for it. He will be punished like any kid on that
tteam sould be. No special treatment....That being said... ...Bingham is still going to win the championship and there is nothing
anyone can do to stop it. Bingham is the best Utah High School football team
ever! That is the way history will remember them. No amount of whining is going
to stop it. Bingham will be #1. Bingham works harder, has better coaches and a
better group of good kids than anyone else. 2010 5A State champs. It does not
matter what you say. so get use to it detractors and whiners...
Tough choice aheadTop 10 program in the nationProven winners
that get up for big games and big SEASONS,Best coach in the stateNo
worthless rulesCoach that knows football is #1vs.Bottom
50 program in the nationCoach that thinks football is #6 priorityStudents who part time as playersTeam who's fastest guy runs a 4.9 with
the wind behind his backTough Choice!Can't wait to
see ya in red Harvey!