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Published: Wednesday, Oct. 27 2010 2:19 p.m. MDT

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SLC gal
Salt Lake City, UT

What absolutely astounds me is people tear apart Romney for being LDS, but yet our current president attended a church in Chicago led by Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Youtube him. His speeches are some of the most hateful, anti Caucasian vitrol I have ever heard from someone who claims to be a man of God. At least with the LDS church, what you see is what you get. Think what you want, but we NEVER teach anyone to hate others!!

Pete in Texas
Copperas Cove, TX

Harry Reid is a Mormon? Wait a minute.... I'M a Mormon?! I'm not sure we're attending the same Mormon churches though because his views are polar opposites of what mine are.

He must be attending a "Liberal Mormon" church. Mine's pretty conservative.

Tom Smith
Sandy, UT

If the public will vote for an Islamic President, they should vote for anyone. Pretty confusing.

American First
Merced, CA

Romney will win the 2012 Republican nomination because of the number of candidates that will be on the ballot for the primaries, it looks like there are going to be up to 20 Republicans running for office, this will divy up the base and evangelicals. Romneys base even though it's only about 20% of Republicans is solidified behind Romneys genuine qualifications to be president. This will hold while the rest of the many candidates fight over the the other 80%. The more the merrier!

prunes
Tooele, UT

Harry Reid of Nevada, though he claims to be a member of the Mormon Church, does not necessarily portray issues held by main stream members of this denomination.

JM
Lehi, UT

I agree above, I’ve never heard hate at LDS Church, always love all. And, I’ve discussed previously with Charles that the Founders were religious people who built on religious foundations. There’s no need to exclude the Christian religion started in America. I feel the name calling “cult,” “devil lovers” etc is immature misunderstanding at best and hopefully it will inspire the openhearted to look at actual official LDS sources to learn what LDS really believe. It’s interesting how much misinformation is still out there. I dated a Christian girl in High School, in Utah, and she believed that Mormons worshipped the devil in the Temple, it was “the High Priesthood” only, and no one else knew about it. This is silly, but sadly, her pastor had the entire congregation believing this. I hope Christians, especially, will open their hearts and encourage congregations to ask LDS what they actually believe, instead of trusting hateful or bigoted sources. I feel this is what Jesus would have us all do.
@sharonna/cmtman/don I quoted online Interlinear Bible translators. Again, we can work together as Christians, although few agree on everything.

@searching, next back Olmec U-Kix more nw?

Samwise
Hobbiton, The Shire

Claiming that Reid's policies and political views are from the LDS Church leadership is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Unless your talking about the LDS Church's admonition to its members to be involved in the political process. I give Reid the benefit of the doubt and think that he is probably a very good member of the church. However, I am also Mormon and have polar opposite political views as Reid. It is absurd to think any Mormon running for office only has allegiance to the LDS Church, especially since one of the Church's doctrines is that we should be loyal to our Country and that the founding of this great nation was inspired by God. That pastor has absolutely no credibility and sadly hurt the chances of Reid being voted out of office. I still have hope that the Nevada people will do what is right and vote him out, though.

Max
Syracuse, NY

I am both stunned and sickened at the harshness of some of the comments made about Harry Reid. I happen to know that Senator Reid is a very faithful Latter-Day Saint. I don't agree with his politics all that much but I don't think LDS conservatives have any basis for accusing him of being "LDS on paper only". Actually, the Book of Mormon does talk a lot about helping the poor and the problems of inequality (just sayin). Like it or not, Harry's positions are not out of sync with the LDS Church. Whether or not you agree with his politics, he is a very good man.

Lord Buckley
Polkton, nc

Sharon Angle's pastor has the same view as most So. Baptists- They just can't stand religions that start with M. Mormon, Muslim or Mennonite, they hate 'em all.

JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt
Beverly Hills, CA

If you are LDS and support the Tea Party movement open your freaking eyes, that statement by Reid's pastor is what the Tea Party think about us Mormons. They are an intolerant bunch and the allegations of racism and xenophobia hold true.

Art Prof
Medford, Oregon

So Brother Informed Voter

May I ask some questions and get some clarification on your comment?

You state; "As one who recently spent three years on a mission in the South, I am certain Evangelicals will never vote for Romney." So you were a mission president...a three-year calling. Why would you make this specification? Why not just say that you were on a mission (still a true statement)? Could it be that knowing active LDS, as a rule, trust and follow the counsel of church leaders, you were subtly trying to use this to make your comments become more "doctrinal" to LDS readers?

You go on to say, "Mitt: Save your money and your time. Forget about running for President. Besides, conservatives want a true conservative - not a Republican elitist who endorsed McCain for the Senate." This seems a underhanded attack. If you dislike Romney, say: "you aren't conservative enough for me and those that I align with". Don't resort to name-calling and back-handed comments, a trait not very desirable in a conservative, much less a former mission president.

I'm conservative, LDS, active and disappointed.

JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt
Beverly Hills, CA

The issue isn;t about Harry Reid, it is about religious intolerance and racism prevalent in the Tea Party movement. Mitt Romney's run to the white house will once again die in the Bible Belt.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'Mormonism and politics have merged in two western campaigns this month...' - Article


It's been alot longer than that.

Prop 8, CA, 2008
Amendment 3, UT, 2004
Civil Unions, HI, 1994

Gratz to my Mormon friends.


You got what you wanted.

SSMD
Silver Spring, MD

The Deseret News account of Harry Reid’s news conference at BYU on 9 Oct 2007:
“Reid said Ezra Taft Benson, active in very conservative politics before he became a president of the LDS Church, and Ernest L. Wilkinson, the president of BYU from 1951-71, were among past church leaders "who were very right-wing people politically."
"Members of the church are obedient," Reid said, "they are followers in the truest sense of the word, and I think they've taken members of the church down a path that is the wrong path.”

Wrong path? “The Lord will never permit me or any other man who stands as President of this Church to lead you astray. It is not in the programme. It is not in the mind of God. If I were to attempt that, the Lord would remove me out of my place, and so He will any other man who attempts to lead the children of men astray from the oracles of God and from their duty.” — Wilford Woodruff, Doctrine and Covenants

govtrumbull
Sparks, NV

I know that religion shouldn't be an issue when chosing a person to represent the electorate. But Harry Reid has given Latter-day Saints a bad name, epecially among conservatives. As far as Sharron Angle is concerned, there are a whole lot of LDS members in Nevada who are supporting and working for her election.

LDS conservatives; which I hope still constitute the greater portion of the LDS population; are ashamed to admit that Dingy Harry is a member of the Church. He just does not represent the standars of our faith.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "Meckofahess | 3:58 p.m." Elder Ezra Taft Benson spoke against a bill similar to what Obamacare has and will do. In 1978 he said "Today the party now in power is advocating and has support, apparently in both major parties, for a comprehensive national health insurance program--a euphemism for socialized medicine. Our major danger is that we are currently (and have been for forty years) transferring responsibility from the individual, local, and state governments to the federal government--precisely the same course that led to the economic collapse in Great Britain and New York City. We cannot long pursue the present trend without its bringing us to national insolvency."

In the same talk he also condemns socialism and communism as being false plans from Satan.

radically_independent
Orem, Utah

SSMD - not everything a church leader says before they hold office is "doctrine". Prophits from the time of Moses have made mistakes - none of them have achieved perfection. Nothing has changed there. If you wish to assert that every utterance a church leader says is "prophetic" and should be followed blindly, I suggest you spend some time studying the Journal of Discourses. While there are many great things tought in these records, there are also those things which the church has distanced itself from.

When Benson made his comments, he was neither acting in a role as a church dignitary, nor was he speaking for the church. He was speaking his opinion from his own personal experiences. Applying what he said as being church doctrine is a misrepresentation of the facts.

His opinions in such matters carries no more weight than any other person, other than the respect he had earned and deserved through his years of service. But future President Benson was not speaking for the church at that time.

Bottom line is church leaders are people, and have their own opinions. Only that which is spoken officially is doctrine.

Dave from Taylorsville
Taylorsville, UT

Some people around here are a bit provential. Not in a really bad way. . . most of it's good.

But many in the Intermountain West need to learn about politics in various parts of the country. Church affiliation has a lot to do with politics in state and local elections.

Try Boston and Mass with Catholics. Try Atlanta and Southern Baptists (or several other locals around the south). Lutheran Wisconsin and Minn..

There's lots more.

And if Pastor Reed had his devoted church member elected, I'm really sure he would never visit that officials office for a "chat."

Brother Chuck Schroeder | 4:35 p.m. Oct. 26, 2010
A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
Mormonism and politics don't mix in any campaigns. There are NOT enough LDS in America to make a difference here.

So Chuck, what religion DOES mix in a campaign? Several mix just fine in other locals.

In Arizona
Mesa, AZ

Whether we admit it or not, the LDS Church is into Politics on certain things. And that's ok .... we need to stand for what we believe even if it is looked at to be "political".

Question
Cottonwood Heights, UT

If you vote FOR someone (just because they are a Mormon)... your a lame brain.

If you vote AGAINST someone (just because they are a Mormon)... youre equally lame.

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