Utah Utes football: Success not distracting Utes into looking ahead


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  • wwookie Payson, UT
    Oct. 27, 2010 3:06 a.m.

    Utes just need to get the voters to watch their games. They would move up a spot or two if there was some integrity in the poll voters (AP Is the best we have).

    Anyone who watches most of the top 25 games each week can easily tell that there are some teams that distance themselves from all the others. Oregon is clearly the leader, but Utah also plays at a level much higher than the rest of college football, as does Auburn, LSU and Alabama.

    BSU and TCU have been impressive, but do not look like the complete team these other guys have. These two schools are deserving of top 10 ranking and could beat even the best if they get a lucky turnover, or if the opponent makes a mistake (which is what happened in Alabamas loss and Utahs close game with Pitt).

    The Ute team needs to take it 1 game at a time, but the fans, media and pollsters to start paying lots of attention to them now. If not, it could be a simple repeat of 2008, despite the possibility that the Utes are the best team in the nation.

    Hype it up!

  • tcom2011 Fort Worth, TX
    Oct. 26, 2010 2:08 a.m.

    So much fun reading these comments! Ute fans, you crack me up, you all started bashing BYU even when no BYU fans made any malicious comments, one of the UofU fans thought someone was posing, LOL.

    Bottom line, so what if your schedule is weak, Boise dose this every year and I think they are a great team. Utes, you have a great team!!! I hope you win out, except against the Horned Frogs, (sorry, I live in Fort Worth)

    My advice, stop bashing us Poor BYU Fans, your bashing us belittles you, look at the season, we don't even belong in the same conversation until the week we play each other. To this point, Utes are far, far better then my boys from Provo. Oh, well - hopefully we will make a game out of it at the end!

    Go Cougs! Go Utes! and yes, sorry go Horn Frogs!!!

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Oct. 25, 2010 7:36 p.m.


    ---Utah has played a SOS in the 113 range, thus far. Their SOS will likely be in the 70 to 80's by seasons end.

    ---That SOS may cost them a chance at the NC, but if Utah ends up undefeated, they WILL be in a BCS bowl.

    ---A win this weekend over AFA will set up a high profile game of two top ten teams with the winner getting a lot of respect.

    ---A one-loss SEC team trumps any non-AQ undefeated to the NC, it's how the BCS ALWAYS rolls.

    ---Mizzou, Auburn and Michigan State will finish with at least 1 loss.

    ---Oregon and Boise will likely remain undefeated. As will the winner of TCU vs Utah.

    Therefore, my prediction is:
    Alabama plays Oregon in the NC.

  • SoCalUtahFan Utesville, CA
    Oct. 25, 2010 7:04 p.m.

    Cougar fans, regardless of what you think, the most important facts are:
    1) Utah is ranked 7th in both Harris and USA Today Polls.
    2) Most importantly, Utah is rankedth 8th in BCS.

    So, the only things you coud do while your football team on a 1-year (or may be 2) sabbatical leave, are:

    1) sit back, relax, pour some milk, have some cookies
    2) watch Utah football games and learn how real football should be played.

    You may enjoy it.

    (the alternative is not so enjoyable: watching an over-a-quarter-century old Beta tape of 1984 BYU-Michigan Holiday Bowl game....yawn, yawn)

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Oct. 25, 2010 6:28 p.m.

    Riddles: If the U wins out, we WILL be in a BCS game. Just get used to it now, it will make your life a LOT easier! We are #8 right now with five games to go (4 hard and one cupcake) - even you zooby trolls have to "know it's true".

    Go Utes! On to Air Force for another convincing victory!

    Everything coming up roses!

    Riddles in the Dark is an appropriate name for a zooby fan. That is what you have been trying to figure out since you got stuck with a WAC "independence" and a basketball future of playing in high school gymnasiums! But, like your own AD said: the first option would have been to go to a BCS conference "but there were no takers"! So now you are stuck with plan B, just like your football coach!! LOL!

  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    Oct. 25, 2010 6:06 p.m.

    Please bitter zoobie Y fans, just leave. I grow so tired of your jealous little takes. By your actions you are proving you are just a jealous little brother that can't compete so he tries to tear down the bigger, better older brother. Enjoy mid-major independence.

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    Oct. 25, 2010 5:04 p.m.

    Bottom line:

    After all of the hype, the Utes will end up playing in the Las Vegas Bowl against a middle of the PAC team. A look into the crystal ball of the future of Utah football.

    They'll get all huffy about it, like their honor has been impuned, but deep down, the Utes know it's true.

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 25, 2010 4:58 p.m.

    BYU fans - be careful what you say about Utah's strength of schedule. You just started playing the awful portion of the MWC this week with a whopping 5 point win over Wyoming and your dominating defense allowed them to score 20 points. You realize that by saying how week Utah's schedule has been that you can't come back four weeks from now and talk about how "everything is coming together" because you are about to play the worst stretch of teams the conference has ever produced. Caution ahead.

  • Game For Any Fuss Draper, UT
    Oct. 25, 2010 3:52 p.m.

    Dear Anonymous Infinity,

    Why not admit you're a disheartened Cougar fan? Why pretend to be a Ute? Perhaps you're embarrassed. I can't blame you.

    You write, "The Utes have no shot at any BCS game that means anything."

    Memo: any BCS game is meaningful, which is why BYU consistently sets a goal of getting to one. But I guess you wouldn't know anything about that, would you?

  • Aggie Fan South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 25, 2010 3:47 p.m.

    @ Uteology

    "For example, I wasn't impressed in 2009 with Utah 24 SJS 14 but I our offense this year is as good as the 2004 team."

    You are crazy for saying this. The 2004 Utah team actually had a good QB who wasn't afraid to get hit. Threw off his front foot instead of running backwards and just throwing it up and hoping the WR come down with the ball. The 2004 offense was way better, especially at the QB position. Utah's D this year is great, special teams are great, most of the offense is great, but your QB will lose games coming down the stretch. TCU will expose him.

  • mr. j Cottonwood Hts., Ut
    Oct. 25, 2010 3:07 p.m.

    Were ranked 10th in the computers and 7th in the polls that count for the BCS. Our computer rating will go nowhere but up with our schedule and so will our ranking if we keep winning. If we can break #8 on our cup cake schedule then the skys the limit if we keep it up through the tough part.

  • Kameron South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 25, 2010 2:56 p.m.

    Weak schedule or not. It is not the fault that the MWC sucks this year and that the only true measure comes from Air Force and TCU. BYU surely won't be a test as they are as bad as UNLV. This sort of reminds me of 1984 except Utah is playing TCU, San Diego State and Air Force.

    I don't believe Utah will be given the opportunity to play for NC if they win out the rest of the games. I am ok going Fiesta Bowl this year. Another 140 teams wish they were in Utah's place.

  • davidutefan Evanston, WY
    Oct. 25, 2010 2:51 p.m.

    What I find hysterical is, YBU fans calling Ute fans thinned skinned. Do they not remember the lynch mob forming for Bryant Gumble in '84 for his "Bo Diddly Tech" comment. As I recall, that was a tough schedule for the TDS that year. What a bunch of Y-ners. Yes the Utes have, so far, played a less than stellar schedule. They have also Destroyed said teams. TDS is still 3-5 and would be 1-7 were it not for help from the zebras. But, referees deciding the outcome of a game in Provo? we've never seen that before.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    Oct. 25, 2010 2:36 p.m.


    BYU got punked at home by a weak FSU team in 2009. If you took the time to research you would notice FSU barley won a Div-2 school Jascksonville State 19-9 at home.

    2009 OSU won @UNLV 23-21, and only scored 34 at home vs Portland State, hardly a powerhouse offense.

    So to claim FSU and OSU would have punked @ISU (who just beat Texas in Austin), Pitt, @AFA, @SDSU, and @ND is wishful thinking at best.

    Yes I do agree that 2009 OU was a decent team which might have put up the Utah numbers as of today.

  • Jordan Lynchburg, VA
    Oct. 25, 2010 2:30 p.m.

    CG, all I've seen so far is that Ute fans have said we have had a weak schedule. I don't know what you're reading, nobody's being real defensive. But you fail to even admit that the Utes are a good team this year. To ignore that is, well, ignorant. Yes, we will see how good Utah is in the coming weeks, but there is no denying that it is a good team this year. Good luck to you and your team until you play us, we need you to be reasonably decent by the end of the season.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Oct. 25, 2010 1:32 p.m.

    Runner: Funny from a fan of a school ranked 73, who LOST to a school ranked 107. And the only reason USU is ranked as high as 107 is because they beat YOU!! You did manage a win at home over #90 Wyoming thanks to a blown PI call, so congratulations on that!

    BTW: You left out Pitt #37.

    source: Sagarin Ratings

    Go Utes! On to Air Force!!

  • CG Orem, UT
    Oct. 25, 2010 1:30 p.m.

    "But part of the reason those teams rank so low on the Sagarin ratings is largely due to the Utes shutting them down on D and lighting them up on O."

    The red koolaid is really flowing up on the hill.

    Most of those cupcakes were ranked low in the Sagarin ratings BEFORE Utah even played them.

    They'd still be ranked just as low as they are right now, even if the Utes had only beaten them by an extra point in OT.

    It's amazing how thin-skinned and defensive Utah fans get about Utah's cupcake schedule, when you consider how much time those same fans spend minimizing every BYU opponent.

    Go back a year ago and look at the constant drumbeat by Utah fans about how weak Oklahoma and Florida State and Oregon State were. Every one of those teams would have destroyed every team Utah has played so far this season and most of Utah's remaining opponents, but according to Utah fans, Oklahoma and Florida State and Oregon State were all very weak teams.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    Oct. 25, 2010 1:25 p.m.


    As of today is Utah's 7-0 due to in part of weak SOS? Yes.

    Is the beating they put on those cupcakes an indicator of a good team? Yes. For example, I wasn't impressed in 2009 with Utah 24 SJS 14 but I our offense this year is as good as the 2004 team.

    Is Utah deserve a top 8 BCS ranking? Debatable, ranking range 7-12.

    Is it relevant? No, because Utah has a chance to still prove they are a top 5 team with games @AFA, TCU, @ND, @SDSU. As a BYU fan I don't expect you to understand this concept; after all preseason is BYU's time of year, postseason is when reality finally sinks in.

    So move on. Why not post a comment that is different then the same thing you have been posting for the last two months.

  • wardu Fallon, NV
    Oct. 25, 2010 1:01 p.m.

    Most Ute fans are realistic, knowing that a NC is out of the question. If the u wins out they will get the "red-headed stepchild bowl" playing against BSU. That is the number 1 reason for the jump to a BSC conference. The BCS powers will never let a non-AQ in the NC game. Mark it down.

    If the Utes are as good as their record, there will be some great football to be watched. I won't root for the u, but I will watch and hope for a loss.

  • UtesFan1978 west valley, utah
    Oct. 25, 2010 12:59 p.m.

    First thing I would like to say is give credit where credit is due. The Utes have dropped teams like a bad habit. Look at the rest of the teams in front of them and behind them and look what they have done with the cupcake teams. They have blown them out or some have struggled with them or even lost to them. The Utes have been very consistent on how they are winning and not this up an down and close calls game like some of the teams have. Utah is for real look at the past couple of seasons with the same teams and look how close they were. Utah will beat TCU on there home turf cause of the FANS!!! I believe it will be the game of the year for non-AQ. The last year the Utes can actually say that. I believe in the team and what Whittingham is doing is unbelievable and if you dont know whittingham as a coach you might want to look a little closer and pay attention to what he brings to the table before judging the UTES!!

  • Crimson Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 25, 2010 12:56 p.m.

    We have not denied that the Utes schedule has been against teams we knew we'd beat.

    But part of the reason those teams rank so low on the Sagarin ratings is largely due to the Utes shutting them down on D and lighting them up on O.

    What all you YBU fans don't seem to understand is... The Utes dominance is what has helped factor in those ratings for our previously played opponents. And part of why YBU's schedule ranks so higher is because of the ineffectiveness on all 3 facets of the game has made their opponents rating go up. Wyoming was your best game so far and they nearly beat you. You dodged a huge bullet in Provo within the last few seconds of the game.

    Again Ute fans and players know we have played a light schedule. Although there is nothing we can do about a soft MWC, which includes YBU. Next year we will be playing better competition each week in our new conference.

    Until then we'll play the games we have and win.

    Go UTES!

  • NC UTES 2010 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 25, 2010 12:45 p.m.

    The 2010 national championship game will be a rematch of the 2008 sugar bowl, with the same results.

    Mark it down.

    Way to be playing boys - keep up the good work.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Oct. 25, 2010 12:34 p.m.


    Ute fans aren’t defending the schedule. For the most part it’s been nothing but cupcakes with one still on the menu for the end of the year.


    It’s only logical to look at what Utah has done against said cupcakes. The Utes haven’t just beaten the spread — they’ve blown it up. They’ve simple dominated all aspects of the game far beyond what supposed experts had predicted. Even the jealous kewg fan is grappling to find something, anything to discredit the Utes.

    As far as NC talk? Well, I think most Ute fans are being honest with themselves in knowing that the chances are slim. But I don’t think I need to remind you that way, way back in the “new wave” days of yore, a team that played a full schedule of cupcakes (and barley winning several games) hit the Lotto when several more deserving teams missed out on the trophy.

    Yes it’s a long shot for the Utes to win the NC this year, but if any fan base, the TDS should keep very quite about this topic.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Oct. 25, 2010 12:24 p.m.

    I am picking Utah over TCU. I think Utah gets another BSC bowl this year too after the win and an undefeated regular season. Really have to give Whitingham alot of credit for recruiting and player development with his program. The U should do really well in the PAC10 next year too. The only real team to watch for is USC and Oregon. The rest of the Pac10 is so-so.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    Oct. 25, 2010 12:10 p.m.

    "Utah's schedule will get much tougher starting this Saturday!"

    What that really means is that for the first time since opening night, Utah starters on both sides of the ball may actually get to see the field in the 4th quarter.

    Looking forward to it. Give this offense 4 whole quarters and lets see what they can produce.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Oct. 25, 2010 11:39 a.m.

    You know Ute fans, a fact is fact whether it is an original thought or not.

    A fact is not a cliche, it's not something that is just thrown out there to disturb. It has nothing to do with BYU's rotten season of rebuilding, it also has absolutely nothing to do with feelings or accusations of being "bitter and jealous"... far from it.

    If you Ute fans cannot admit that your competition has been a bunch of losing teams, cupcakes, whatever or however you want to classify them then you truly are delusional.

    Anytime anyone mentions facts about these losing teams the Utes have played, fans attack and say it isn't so, it doesn't matter, the commentor is "bitter and jealous", you didn't win a real NC in '84, and the list of childish retorts goes on.

    'Wake up and smell the coffee' boys and girls. The facts don't lie and you do if you can't acknowledge the truth of the wimpy schedule. It is a valid argument and one that you have to face.

    It will be the sole reason that the Ute NC ambition will be just that, a dream.

  • pocyUte2 Pocatello, Id
    Oct. 25, 2010 11:33 a.m.

    Ibleedcrimson, I hear what your saying.

    The problem is the zoob fans have nothing to cheer for. Their lack of a team has left a void that they try and fill with hate. It's sad really.

    I actually recommend that these BYU fans who continually get on here are say the same thing, try something new. I think knitting or gardening might be the solution. If that doesn't work out, try watercolors, the light brown colors can be especially soothing..

  • Ibleedcrimson Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 25, 2010 11:24 a.m.

    "what do you expect when you play the one of the softest schedules in america? (ranked 119th"

    Why thanks for making my point for me!!!

  • Ibleedcrimson Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 25, 2010 11:19 a.m.

    " No one is going to take you seriously when you currently have the 113th ranked schedule"

    Are there any BYU fans capable of an original thought? They all seem to grab onto the latest cliche and hold tight until that one loses it's steam.

    If it's not 3 out of 4 it's 1984. The flavor of the week remains Utah hasn't played anyone yet.

    Come on Coug fan's I know it hurts to be 3 - 5 but one of you should at least try and think outside the box once in awhile.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Oct. 25, 2010 11:06 a.m.

    what do you expect when you play the one of the softest schedules in america? (ranked 119th)

  • sports fan Provo, UT
    Oct. 25, 2010 10:51 a.m.

    one Ute and two cougs on MWC honors list.

  • SoCalUte Trabuco Canyon, CA
    Oct. 25, 2010 10:18 a.m.

    @ Anonymous Infinity Do you actually watch any games besides the Utes? "Air Force is not any good"?
    They may not be a top 10 team, but to say they are not any good is quite naive on your part. Air Force ia ALWAYS a Quality apponent. Year in and year out.
    You obviuosly haven't watched any of their games this year. The Utes will win, but it is NOT becuase AF is abad team. It will be because the Utes are a top 10 quality team.
    Utes 35
    AF 13

  • joek Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 25, 2010 10:17 a.m.

    I am no expert but I think that if Utah beats TCU handily they should jump BSU. After all Auburn jumped BSU in the BCS rating because Auburn has beaten much better teams.

    Statistically Utah is on target to be better than TCU (scoring average, points allowed, etc). The questions I have are

    1-Will we see the Shaky-Baky who played UNLV/Iowa State or the one that played CSU/Pitt
    2- Will Wynn throw 3 picks? Will he remember the TCU game last year and be intimidated?
    3- Is the defense ready to start stunting and running the circus blitzes instead of the straight forward blitzes that they have been running

    I am excited that this game is at RES, I think that we have a much better chance of winning, in fact I think that we will.

  • Runner Chandler, AZ
    Oct. 25, 2010 10:15 a.m.

    Way to go uties...way to go "Boise State" and beat up on the weakest of the weak. No one is going to take you seriously when you currently have the 113th ranked schedule, by far the lowest of any ranked team, and your string of blowouts came against:

    UNLV -- ranked 143
    New Mexico -- ranked 197
    San Jose St. -- ranked 138
    Iowa St. -- ranked 43
    Wyoming -- ranked 90
    Colorado St. -- ranked 111

    source: Sagarin ratings

  • Anonymous Infinity American Fork, UT
    Oct. 25, 2010 9:48 a.m.

    We will know who Utah is after playing Notre Dame? Who is Notre Dame? They are terrible. Navy thumped them big time. The Utes will not get close to jumping over Boise State. Boise State continues to play terrible teams. Air Force is not a good team either. And TCU hasn't played anyone yet, so the jury is still out on them as well. The Utes have no shot at any BCS game that means anything. It will end up being Oregon and whoever in the BCS title game; the only postseason game that has any meaning at all. All this doesn't mean Utah isn't a good team. It's just the scheduling and playing so so teams in a weak MWC.


    A Diehard Ute fan.

  • Bo Jangles Meridian, ID
    Oct. 25, 2010 8:34 a.m.


    as a fellow ute, I love your enthusiasm, but we don't know how good Utah is because they really haven't played a top 40 caliber team yet. After the AF, ND and TCU games we will know what kind of team Utah really is.

    You're right though, if the Utes win out and their SOS becomes better than Boise State's, the Utes should jump the Broncos. For that to happen, we would need Pitt, Iowa State, Nore Dame and TCU to keep winning.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Oct. 25, 2010 7:53 a.m.

    “Utes should stop pulling their starters midway through the 3rd quarter and only pull them midway through the fourth.”


    KWhitt is doing the right thing by pulling the starts when the game(s) are in hand. Unlike the inept coach down south who in 2009, never went to the bench when games were in hand — hence the lack of talent and depth. Slogans can’t compensate for poor planning

    KWhitt is on the midst of creating a NATIONAL power and part of the process is developing talent — 3 and 4 deep. Going forward, the Utes may not have the luxury of playing their third unit so kudos go out to the coaching staff. A smart program that’s not only playing it “on game at a time” but also looking at the big picture.

    Utah 34
    AFA 17

  • Jimmy James Bronx, NY
    Oct. 25, 2010 7:46 a.m.

    The Utes are saying all the right things, but I hope it's genuine. Alabama said all the right things too (ie, were not overlooking Utah and will be prepared for them) and see how well that worked out for them.

    Now's the time in our schedule where we really find out what we're made of. These should be some tough games coming up.

    And wwookie, strength of schedule or not, I'm not so sure that if undefeated we would pass up an undefeated Boise because they have the advantage of already being so much higher in the polls than us.

    But either way, go Utes and lets take care of Air Force this Saturday!

  • 42istheanswer SLC, UT
    Oct. 25, 2010 7:44 a.m.

    I love the Utes, & I think you are right they would comepte with a lot of the big schools. But nake no mistake, if the Utes don't play a clean game the Falcons will be a tough game & TCU will be near impossible. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. GO UTES!

  • wwookie Payson, UT
    Oct. 25, 2010 4:06 a.m.

    Utes should stop pulling their starters midway through the 3rd quarter and only pull them midway through the fourth.
    Make a goal of reaching 80 points of offense in every game.
    Make a goal of allowing less than 20 points each game.
    Cause 4 turnovers per contest.
    And someone needs to start talking to the media to get the name out. There are too many people voting in the polls and sports commentators who have yet to watch the utes play besides the Pitt game (The first game of the season).

    Utah would demolish ANYBODY in the ACC, Big East, BIG 10 and BIG 12. They would struggle only with Oregon, Aurburn, LSU and maybe Alabama, but those would be pretty even games.

    Have you watched the utes play? They are a complete team and have crushed opponents more convincingly than those above them in the rankings (with the lone exception of Oregon).

    Remember, the Utes will have played an overall stronger schedule than Boise State, and an equal schedule to that of TCU. So logically, the Utes should be the highest rated non-AQ school if they go undefeated. (Sorry Broncos, the SOS thing hurts, we know!)

    Go Utes!